Re: CSNew to group
Hi W.T., Looks like you'll have to spill the beans now. Perhaps you might be interested to know that: * Black Lima Beans have the ingradients to raise the blood and the urinary pH * Organic Black Bean Turtle are good for the kidneys and skin problems With regards Lew W.T. Shoultz wrote: Lew, I was going to tell you her font {True Type: Lucida Handwriting; 14pt.} but I see she already beat me to it. Looks like you'll have to spill the beans now. W.T. - Original Message - From:Lew Fong How To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; Anna G Warmuth Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:20 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CSLew Fong, Lucida Handwriting 14pt. Now tell
Dear Anna, You wrote: ...if any one has used cs specifically for a chronic lung infection. Chronic lung infection covers a vast territory in the respiratory system. Its etiology is multifactorial. However,there is a nerve called the pneumo-gastric nerve that supplies both the stomach [ gastric] and lungs [pneumo]. Since the two anatomical structures are innervated by the same parental nerve [pneumo-gastric nerve], physiologically, what affects the lungs will by reflex,also affect the stomach. Though colloidal silver is actively absorbed in the gaster[stomach], its spill-over into the intestine may eliminate bacterial colonies indiscriminately,the good and the bad,causing a disruption in the finely-tuned ecological symbiosis existing in the gut. This gives rise to multiple gastro-intestinal complaints. The toxins synthesized and accumulated as a result of the microbial warfare in the gut, are contributory to the chronicity of the lung infection.The colloidal silver,thus ,has become a double-edge weapon : it can heal and at the same time also kill, even though,as a reputable anti-microbial. The solution to this iatrogenic manifestation,is the optimization of colloidal silver dosage and the perodic abstinence of colloidal silver intake to allow recolonization of the gut bacteria,with supplementation of enzymes,probiotic and wholesome water.The fallacy of over treatment with colloidal silver in any chronic infection on prolonged consumption cannot be ignored. With zapping gaining popularity among the lay, the phenomenon of electroporation cannot be underestimated. Electroporation is effected by applying a current to the the body system. The cell reacts by widening the pores in the cellular membrane which allow easy absorption of chemicals intracellularly which may result in toxic build-up. This little digression I hope will give you an insight into the plus and minus of a very much talked about preparation,colloidal silver. In retrospect, I can recollect many anecdotes where I have noted cases where there were concomitant gastric problems presenting only with complaints of chronic cough. The cough just would not go away until the gastric problems were investigated and treated. Coughing with bringing up of excessive phlegm need not be nessary a chest infection unless the phlegm is discoloured. In a number of cases, it turned out to be gastritis due to dietary indiscretion. Colloidal silver is a great help under such circumstances. There are many instances whereby alerting, presenting symptoms have been made chronic because of our inattention or unawarness of their reflex origin The pneumo-gastric chronicity is such a case, relevant to our discussion. The suggestion of colloidal silver for this symptom complex is admirable .But sometimes, its therapeutic reputation is better preserved by its omission rather than by its commision till all the presenting complaints are addressed. The chronic lung infection may show amelioration with regular intake of colloidal silver. The body is not built for prolonged chemical alimention. From clinical experience, the side-effects are initially subclinical. The haematological profile and urinalysis may show some evidence. I have great success for chronic respiratory tract infection with 10 ppm colloidal silver prescribed to patients, young and old inclusive but for not more than two weeks. At least, a routine haematological profile and urinalysis should be done periodically for those who are on colloidal silver. This precautionary procedure is mainly to safeguard the healthcare consumer or the patient against any possible side-effect of colloidal silver and its early detection. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: -Original Message- From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com; Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS
Re: CSLew Fong, Lucida Handwriting 14pt. Now tell
Dear Anna, [ Sorry, I have corrected the typos] You wrote: ...if any one has used cs specifically for a chronic lung infection. Chronic lung infection covers a vast territory in the respiratory system. Its etiology is multifactorial. However,there is a nerve called the pneumo-gastric nerve that supplies both the stomach [ gastric] and lungs [pneumo]. Since the two anatomical structures are innervated by the same parental nerve [pneumo-gastric nerve], physiologically, what affects the lungs will by reflex,also affect the stomach. Though colloidal silver is actively absorbed in the gaster[stomach], its spill-over into the intestine may eliminate bacterial colonies indiscriminately,the good and the bad,causing a disruption in the finely-tuned ecological symbiosis existing in the gut. This gives rise to multiple gastro-intestinal complaints. The toxins synthesized and accumulated as a result of the microbial warfare in the gut, are contributory to the chronicity of the lung infection.The colloidal silver,thus ,has become a double-edge weapon : it can heal and at the same time also kill, even though,as a reputable anti-microbial. The solution to this iatrogenic manifestation,is the optimization of colloidal silver dosage and the perodic abstinence of colloidal silver intake to allow recolonization of the gut bacteria,with supplementation of enzymes,probiotic and wholesome water.The fallacy of over treatment with colloidal silver in any chronic infection on prolonged consumption cannot be ignored. With zapping gaining popularity among the lay, the phenomenon of electroporation cannot be underestimated. Electroporation is effected by applying a current to the the body system. The cell reacts by widening the pores in the cellular membrane which allow easy absorption of chemicals intracellularly which may result in toxic build-up. This little digression I hope will give you an insight into the plus and minus of a very much talked about preparation,colloidal silver. In retrospect, I can recollect many anecdotes where I have noted cases where there were concomitant gastric problems presenting only with complaints of chronic cough. The cough just would not go away until the gastric problems were investigated and treated. Coughing with bringing up of excessive phlegm need not be necessarily a chest infection unless the phlegm is discoloured. In a number of cases, it turned out to be gastritis due to dietary indiscretion. Colloidal silver is a great help under such circumstances. There are many instances whereby alerting, presenting symptoms have been made chronic because of our inattention or unawarness of their reflex origin The pneumo-gastric chronicity is such a case, relevant to our discussion. The suggestion of colloidal silver for this symptom complex is admirable .But sometimes, its therapeutic reputation is better preserved by its omission rather than by its commision till all the presenting complaints are addressed. The chronic lung infection may show amelioration with regular intake of colloidal silver. The body is not built for prolonged chemical alimentation. From clinical experience, the side-effects are initially subclinical. The haematological profile and urinalysis may show some evidence. I have great success for chronic respiratory tract infection with 10 ppm colloidal silver prescribed to patients, young and old inclusive but for not more than two weeks. At least, a routine haematological profile and urinalysis should be done periodically for those who are on colloidal silver. This precautionary procedure is mainly to safeguard the healthcare consumer or the patient against any possible side-effect of colloidal silver and its early detection. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: -Original Message- From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com; Anna G Warmuth awarm...@uslink.net Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSNew to group Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too
Re: CSNew to group
Hi Anna, Teach me the handwriting in your posting. Then only , I will tell. With regards Lew Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna Anna G Warmuth wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this group, You all seem a little too advanced for me, but I'm wondering if anyone has used CS specifically for a chronic lung infection. I would like to hear your experiences. Thanks Anna
Re: CSSTRUCTURED WATER
Dear Robert, Yes, I have. I dilute Colloidal Silver and Homeopathic potencies with Pi structured water for iontophoresis. You may find out more about iontophoresis if you care to visit: http://madsci.wustl.edu/posts/archives/aug98/896722455.Bc.r.html With regards Lew Robert Ratliff wrote: Has anyone used structured water for Cs or anything else? Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSTRUCTURED WATER David Bolin wrote: http://www.tznet.com/busn/unusual/structure.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CsOff Topic/Head
Hi Kim, I corrected the typo in the first URL Kim Brown wrote: What would cause a child's head to be large ? The term hydrocephalus , in medicine, is defined as any condition in which there is enlargement of the ventricular system as a result of imbalance between production and absorption of cerebrospinal fluid [CSF]. The child 's head enlarges in order to accommodate the excessive volume of cerebrospinal fluid secreted. Progressive hydrocephalus is associated with raised intracranial pressure giving rise to neurological manifestations. The increasing enlargement should be assessed by regular measurements of the cranial circumference. Sometimes, the pressure may be normal or nearly so. You merely mentioned that the child was premature but did not mention whether the child sustained any trauma during delivery or genetic history. Hydrocephalus, sometimes can obstruct the course of labour. The appearance and size of the head are related more to the age of onset of the hydrocephalus than to its cause. In the majority of cases, hydrocephalus mainfests after birth. However, it has been reported that nearly 40 percent of all hydrocephalic cases in infancy resolve spontaneously He doesn't seem to have any other physical ailments,.. Nothing is known about his medical /surgical history and radiological,ultrasound or CT scan findings. Personally, I would like to find out whether the hydrocephalus is the communicating type or the non-communicating type. This differentiation is important in relation to surgical management. should this be a concern ? It is a concern of utmost importance with vast psychological repercussions. A hydrocephalic child can bring about intrapersonal and interpersonal stress to the family involving parents and siblings. In fact, the society of which he or she is a member is also affected. You may find out more if you care to visit : Http://www.patientcenters.com/ Http://www.hydrocephalus.org/ With regards Lew KIM BROWN wrote: Hi guys, This is certainly off topic, sorry. I don't know who else to ask. Even though it seems silly, please no jokes. What would cause a child's head to be large? This boy was a premature birth and has just turned 3. His head is almost the size of an adults. Now, he is a big stocky boy but the first thing people notice is his head size. He doesn't seem to have any other physical ailments, should this be a concern? Has anyone ever seen this before? Thanks, Kim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: CSPlantar's Warts, No More...]
Mother Nature , in her ageless wisdom, is watching and waiting. I have a strong premonition She is beckoning to her trained assistants. The holistic reawakening has commenced. Thanks, Linda, for the compliment. With regards Lew chrlyg...@aol.com wrote: I was just getting ready to ask about CS. I am a diabetic, have degenerative spinal disease and because of my reoccurring bronchitis, I'm on antibiotics almost constantly. Not surprisingly, they no longer work. Last week my Doctor told me to consider using CS. Well that really surprised me. I used to skip all the post about CS, now I need the info. I would like to make my own and I know there was info on this before. Is there a way to know how many PPM there is when you finished making it. The Doctor recommended 20 - 40 PPM and most of the generators seem to make about 5 PPM. Can this be made with 1 oz silver bars? I need help and instructions please. Linda in KY -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---BeginMessage--- I was just getting ready to ask about CS. I am a diabetic, have degenerative spinal disease and because of my reoccurring bronchitis, I'm on antibiotics almost constantly. Not surprisingly, they no longer work. Last week my Doctor told me to consider using CS. Well that really surprised me. I used to skip all the post about CS, now I need the info. I would like to make my own and I know there was info on this before. Is there a way to know how many PPM there is when you finished making it. The Doctor recommended 20 - 40 PPM and most of the generators seem to make about 5 PPM. Can this be made with 1 oz silver bars? I need help and instructions please. Linda in KY -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: CS[Fwd: OT : Living or Pi Water]
Dear Vilik, There are many versions of the so called structured water. The type I have been using for research in my clinic is the Pi water. I contrived to get the URL for an introductory write -up on Pi water for you. I do not know whether it is already available in the US. Let us keep an open mind. Sometimes we need some claification on certain aspects of the subject; once done ,it is all one bright illumination. You will know exactly what you want. I hope I have got them right here; these URLs will take you to links which will guide and help you . Here you are: Http://www.tznet.com/busn/unusual/structure.htm Http://www.digibio.com/ Http://www.pi-water.com/ These are sources of information relevant to our discussion and should not be interpreted as excuses for commercial exploitation. Please tell me what you make of it . With regards Lew Vilik Rapheles wrote: Lew, Your post was fascinating (though I have to admit I didn't understand some of the technical parts.) Can you say more about how to make pi water? Can it be done by an individual? I just started taking super-ionized water yesterday. I do believe I notice something...but subtle. I will report back when I have something more substantial to say about it. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---BeginMessage--- Lew, Your post was fascinating (though I have to admit I didn't understand some of the technical parts.) Can you say more about how to make pi water? Can it be done by an individual? I just started taking super-ionized water yesterday. I do believe I notice something...but subtle. I will report back when I have something more substantial to say about it. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: OT : Living or Pi Water
Hi listers, There was posting on Magnetized Water and Super Ionized Water. Now , it is about Pi Water. From his Digital Biology Laboratory, J Benveniste et al succeeded in demonstrating that the molecular signal of any substance is not functional in the absence of informed water. Molecules in normal active strength do not elicit any biological effect in the absence of water. These molecules cannot transmit signals even in the watery matrix : the transmission can only be triggered by the perimolecular water which relays or amplifies the impulses. This phenomenon has come to be known as the memory of water . By simple experiments, J Benveniste's team was able to demonstrate that: Water is able to store electromagnetic molecular signals [EMS] from 1. High Dilutions [ Homeopathic ] 2. Electronic Circuitry 3. Replay of a computer recording To authenticate this theory of molecular memory and digital biology, Benveniste et al demonstrated a pre-recording of water with EMS through the Internet. This proved that water is capable of conducting biological information and is also capable of transmitting and amplifying information for sound and music. This explains inter -cellular communication as the biological molecules can inter-communicate at the speed of light. It is now easy to understand why minute chemical changes can bring about considerable side- effects which structural biologists are at a loss to explain. A molecular signal can be efficiently represented by a bandwidth between 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz which is within the range of the human voice and audible music. Emotions, which are fundamentally cerebral physico-chemical phenomenoa are triggered by specific range of frequencies. In assisting Nature, one is merely transmitting pre- recorded etheric or molecular energies to the biological systems. I am thinking aloud : In naming the super microbial fighter, is it the colloidal silver molecule or its molecular memory ? With regards Lew ---BeginMessage--- file:///C|/DOS/nscomm40/tmp/tmp13/edt2.htm Title: detail english Natural Power of Pi Water Amazing!! A gold fish could survive in high-energy Pi Water in air tight container for 216 days. ェ@ From calculation of necessary volume of oxygen in this air tight container, this gold fish can only survive for 3 to 4 days. However, within high-energy Pi Water, such a fact over common sense of our modern science can occur. It is because high-energy Pi Water can provide necessary bio-energy to allow the gold fish to live. Saltwater fish fresh water fish can live together in high-energy Pi Water. ェ@ Normally, when salt water fish are placed into fresh water or when fresh water fish are placed into salt water, they will die within an hour. This because of the saturating pressure difference. High-energy Pi Water can provide bio-energy to help their adjustability to severe circumstances. Contents Amazing Characteristic of Pi Water. How was Pi Water discovered? How can Pi Water be Obtained? What is the Advantage of Pi Water? What is Pi Process? How Pi Water/Pi Process is Utilized? Where will Pi Water/Pi Process Technology will Go in Future? Amazing Characteristic of Pi Water: Pi Water has Bio-energy as Same as Body Water has This photo shows difference of energy level coming from ordinary tap water versus Pi Water, using Kirlian photo. The same kind of bio-energy is coming from the human body. When you drink Pi Water, this bio-energy is added to your body. Pi Water Supports Living Tissues. Photo on the left shows mouse tissues placed in distiled water versus Pi Water. The distiled soon became germs and propagated cloudy. But, as shown on right side photo, tissues kept in high-energy Pi Water maintains its structure and high-energy Pi Water remains clear and never clouded. It is proven that high-energy Pi Water can keep structure of tissues after over 30 years. High-energy Pi Water is being used in some laboratories in Japan for keepking tissue samples instead of using hormarine. Body water is the key to maintain self-healing activities of your body cells. When high-energy Pi Water is applied to cuts or burns on your body, you may see that they will heal quicker than usual. Pi Water has Anti-oxidation Effects Anti-oxidation effects suppress the increase of excessive free radical, (oxygen peroxide), and keep your body from oxydation attack. Increase of free radical can be shown as inflamation, such as irritation of skins. Also, one of the
CS[Fwd: CSstructured water]
Dear David, You wrote: I am curious if anyone on the list has tried making CS with structured water instead of distilled water It is very interesring to learn that you are experimenting planting tomato and pepper with CS in structured water. I would be grateful if you would kindly tell me where I can get some structured water. Please do send me the article on the structured water. I would like to learn something from it. Thanks. With regards Lew David Bolin wrote: Hi Folks! I am curious if anyone on the list has tried making CS with structured water instead of distilled water. I am experimenting with it on the pepper and tomato plants in the garden as well as on myself. The article I have on it says it improves CS a number of ways. Longer shelf life and smaller particles seem to be part of the deal. I got the article from the Nexus Magazine site last year. It seems to be no there now. I would put it on one of my web pages if it wasn't for the legalities. If anyone wishes to have a copy, I'll be happy to send a 40 kb. text file to them if they send e-mail to me with the one word structure in the subject line. For the article e-mail to broompi...@netzero.net You really ought to read it! Be Well, David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---BeginMessage--- Hi Folks! I am curious if anyone on the list has tried making CS with structured water instead of distilled water. I am experimenting with it on the pepper and tomato plants in the garden as well as on myself. The article I have on it says it improves CS a number of ways. Longer shelf life and smaller particles seem to be part of the deal. I got the article from the Nexus Magazine site last year. It seems to be no there now. I would put it on one of my web pages if it wasn't for the legalities. If anyone wishes to have a copy, I'll be happy to send a 40 kb. text file to them if they send e-mail to me with the one word structure in the subject line. For the article e-mail to broompi...@netzero.net You really ought to read it! Be Well, David -- E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSOff topic Alt Health
Bob Lee never told me anything about the Alternative Health List. Please count me in - the more the merrier. With regards Lew nat2...@aol.com wrote: Me to, Me to TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: [cancercure] Re: Dr. Clark -Options In Health Care]
Doris wrote: I have been through exasperating hours of research for methods to help.. Because the information I needed was not available except over the internet and in books... This is not just about Dr. Clark To watch people die when you have the means to help is criminal. When the Nipah virus, a rogue variant,created havoc in my country, Malaysia, a few months ago, causing untold socio-economic hardship to our people and leaving in its wake morbid remnants of human wreckage and miseries, the whole of the Malaysian medical profession was confused by Mother Nature.. We were at our wits' end staunching the inexorable and relentless onslaught of these viral critters which caused encephalitis. In fear and in impotent rage, we watched our loved ones, young and old die helplessly and grotesquely despite our best efforts both at the national and international level. Antibiotics would not help.When I could not contain the fear and panic of my patients any longer at the heights of the encephalitis epidemic, I resorted to Bioelectromedicine and Colloidal Silver therapy. The Zappers and Colloidal Silver Generators are research instruments at our Clinic of Complementary and Alternative Medicine. I found them in cybercountry. All my patients with Viral Upper Respiratory infection were zapped, given ozonated water to drink in between zapping,and given an amber bottle of 250 to 500 ml of 10ppm Colloidal Silver to take home. They were advised to take only fractional dosage of medications and colloidal silver because of electroporation. I received good feedback. Those cancerous cases relinquished by orthodox medicine, we picked up, improved with zapping and anti-parasitic regime. How would one review Dr. Clark's contribution with this scenerio ? I would not be able prove that I have eliminated any of the Nipah virus but I can prove that I have been motivated by Dr. Clark's inspired contraption to help my patients rather than doing nothing and leaving them at the mercy of the viral critters. Helping by giving one's best in the face of national emergency is a patriotic contribution, no matter how small and insignificant it may seem. Those who have improved with the surge of her inspired healing current, including me, will always remember her and dedicate to her the credit of helping me in my work and my patients to tide over the darkest hours of the freak epidermic in Malaysia. I read to-day in utter disbelief that Dr. Clark has been incarcerated for the same principle she has so altrustically given to the world. I bow in humiliation for the indignities they have brought on to this kindly lady of 70. It is saddening to realize that Truth is often dictated by the consensus of opinions rather than by scientific evidence. False and fraudulent teachings often prevail even when the truth has already been known for a long time. Dr. Clark is not on trial. It is the human conscience that is on trial. I appeal to the relevant authorities and beg them to set this 70 year old lady free in order to maintain some semblance of sanity and respectability in the healing profession. Dr.Clark is merely Nature's assistant. Assisting Mother Nature does not require a licence ! Hippocrates, the Father of Medicine stated: The body heals itself; the physician is only Nature's assistant. With regards Dr. FHLew [ Malaysia ] Doris Morgan wrote: I have been through exasperating hours of research for methods to help my sister and a friend. Both have inoperable cancer and neither are strong enough to go through the toxic ordeal of Chemo. Why me. Because the information I needed was not available except over the internet and in books. Why? Because alternative options in this country are dangerous to support. If our FDA and National Cancer Institute was open-minded enough to honestly research new ideas without it coming from a pharmaceutical company attached to a few million dollars then doctors could advise people like us of other possibilities. Instead my sisters Oncologist said he did not want to know what we were doing. He was afraid that somehow he might be tied to a treatment that was not accepted! That is so sad. I am not a doctor and not even educated in the health field but I had to go to the Internet and ask for input from people that had success, if not for a cure at least for pain control and quality of life improvement. It has worked The FDA would like to take away these options that I had. They want to remove the freedom of choice and put us at the mercy of the Pharmaceutical firms that will produce only if there is a patent and huge payback. My sister cannot afford to leave the country or even her state for treatment. To take away the few options we have left is criminal. My son, just 33 years old, was exposed to Mercury at work. He came down with
CS[Fwd: CSClear. . . gold. . . dark gold. . . PINK - in two days!?!]
Hi listers, How do you clean your jar? I use 6% hydrogen peroxide in distilled water . I swirl the jar for a few minute with the dilution. Then I rinse it with distilled water. Finally,I wipe clean the jar with dry cotton gauze. It is now ready for use. Did I do something wrong? Lew Ivan Anderson wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk Ivan- How do you clean your jar? h lets see. I normaly use a mild detergent and then several rinses with DW before I start cooking. This could be a problem. It is difficult to remove all the detergent residue. detergent chemicals are strongly polar and will cling to the glass tenaciously. I suggest that cleaning should be hot tap water and paper towels only, followed by your DW rinses. If your process is the same as normal, (same time, temp, etc.) then the only variables I can think of are, the age of the water, and contamination of the jar. hm age of water. that's a possible factor. thats the only thing that might have changed. good point. The best colloid I ever made was when I first ordered in a batch of pharmiceudical-grade water (called BP, here in the UK) Purified Water BP, this is what I use also. What do your electrodes look like, smooth or pitted? Fairly smooth but they do wear out fast. My DC unit is supposed to cut off at around 15 ppm but it takes a really long time, like 6 hours. I'm looking forward to trying AC, which I hear is faster and more stable. thanks for the help, Steve King No probs - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk Ivan- How do you clean your jar? h lets see. I normaly use a mild detergent and then several rinses with DW before I start cooking. This could be a problem. It is difficult to remove all the detergent residue. detergent chemicals are strongly polar and will cling to the glass tenaciously. I suggest that cleaning should be hot tap water and paper towels only, followed by your DW rinses. If your process is the same as normal, (same time, temp, etc.) then the only variables I can think of are, the age of the water, and contamination of the jar. hm age of water. that's a possible factor. thats the only thing that might have changed. good point. The best colloid I ever made was when I first ordered in a batch of pharmiceudical-grade water (called BP, here in the UK) Purified Water BP, this is what I use also. What do your electrodes look like, smooth or pitted? Fairly smooth but they do wear out fast. My DC unit is supposed to cut off at around 15 ppm but it takes a really long time, like 6 hours. I'm looking forward to trying AC, which I hear is faster and more stable. thanks for the help, Steve King No probs - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CSRe: List humor - or laugh of the year
Hey you, oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast. The domestic matter is closed. Kaput. There are a thousand and one things waiting for us to do. I will make you some magnetized beer when I visit the US in the near future for your academic indulgence. Gracia amigo Lew Hello beautiful Katarina, Apology accepted. :-) I`m still laughing anyhow. Love your posting also. Now we have the Kat/Marsha exchange. Ha-ha. As a matter of policy, I also reply to most private posts on list if I think it (the reply) may be of interest to others. Only posts which are of definite privacy are not given a general list reply. I`m not always right and don`t mind it being pointed out. I don`t take offence (or offense) very easy, really don`t have time for it. Now wheres that guy who thinks there is a language barrier. :-) Bless youBob Lee Katarina Wittich wrote: Dear Bob, I'm the person who used the word attack for your rebuke of Lew. I apologize and agree with you that rebuke is a more appropriate word than attack. Thank you for educating me and I am mortally embarrassed at having looked stupid or worse. My brain is usually engaged, when not fogged, when I open my mouth and I choose my words carefully when writing to this list. However, my letter to Lew was written to him privately and late at night with no thought for carefulness in my words, since they were meant only for him. Unfortunately, he responded by posting on the list his answers to my private questions and unwittingly made public my careless choice of words. I have been worried since I re-read the post that you would be offended, and I am sorry if it is so. I actually think your interchange with each other has been very interesting and informative and I was very glad it happened. I'm now checking my walls for red stuff -- I don't see any, so I guess I have been rebuked -- not attacked -- so now I am going to sit down and try to figure out what is right or wrong in the first degree of Obligations under Moral Affections. Hi girl, try Roget`s Thesaurus, a full size one with the *Tabular Synopsis of Categories* in the front of it. :-) Not a cheap paperback. I find it to be a very informative reference work. Anyhow, glad I provided you with something to laugh about -- and sorry if it offended you. I always enjoy a great deal reading your posts and learning from them. Blessings on you too. Katarina Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Lew Fong How wrote: Dear Athenians, Carolyn wrote: When Hahnemann talks about the syphilitic and gonorhheal miasms he talks about the taint.In today's world where we have antibiotics to kill off at least these two bacteria, is the taint still resident? The answer is yes. The growth and development of an organism is an intimate part of the organism's genetic heritage. The latter's expression is the result of successful evolution of the community of which the individual is a part. The loss of that ability to adequately adjust to the morbid fluctuations within the backdrop of the solar system and planet earth, results in unbalancing of the various genetic expressions. An illness followed by homeostatic recovery is a normal body reaction without any entrapment of pathological energies.When the unbalance is prolonged, the retention of the trapped morbid energies progresses deeper. Its etiology, thus, has become deep-rooted and the resulting malady is the taint. Louis Pasteur,the French chemist,discovered germs during his experimentation on fermentation. His discovery was initially rejected but was later enthusiastically excepted when the one germ-one disease model was fashioned to order with its immense potential for commercial exploitation. Pasteur on his death-bed is said to have made the heretical statement: The bacteria are nothing, the terrain is everything. In 1914, Dr.Rosenow,associate of the Mayo Foundation,the most eminent bacteriologist then,shattered the foundation of the serum and drug industries with the results of painstaking experimentation. The Rosenow experiments,verifying the conclusions of Becham,Rife and Naessens,showed that there exists no specific bacteria. The extant microbes or endobionts [ Mucor racemosus Fresen and Aspergillus niger van Tiegham] are phasic microbes which are always present and cannot be removed from the living cell. They are the genotypic and phenotypic variants with marked capacity to change their properties to ensure survival in an unpredictable enviroment. Microbial variation occurs selectively,modifying the microscopic, colonial, nutritional, biochemical, antigenic, pathogenic and drug sensitive attributes of the organism , when there is an alteration in the condition, nutrition and temperature of the enviroment. The phenomenon of microbial variation is observed in our everyday practice. Primitive phases [colloidal] live in a high alkaline pH Bacterial phases live in mild alkalinr pH Fungal forms live in a medium acid pH Viral forms live in a strong acid pH These phases are easily seen in living blood under darkfield microscopy. Eileen wrote: All antibiotics do,usually,is to drive the 'taint' or symptoms,deeper into the body-- they may disappear for awhile--but they always come back The 'disappearance' of a particular germ from the culture does not mean that the germ is dead; it only became invisible due to its transformation into an invisible form. That means,that the host organism is now in a cancerous state. Dr. Karl Horst Poehlman, Australia The endobionts are indestructible. Gaby wrote: Jakob Henle,in his 'Pathological Examinations' [1840] recognised, that the term miasm would loose the essence of his meaning if it wasn't brought into contact with the knowledge about the parasitic diseases. Professor Dr. Gunther Enderlein demonstrated that all microbes go through the same stages of their development in the organism: Colloid [primitive phase] bacteria[middle phase] fungus [end phase] Royal Rife showed the transformation into the toxic phase- viral, and this phenomenon could not be seen under light microscopy. It is saddening to realise that truth is often dictated by consensus of opinions rather than by scientific evidence. False and fraudulent teachings prevail even though the truth has been known for a long time. With regards Lew ---BeginMessage--- -- Your following message has been delivered to the 695 members of the list ath...@medicinegarden.com at 14:35:50 on 29 Sep 1999. -- Dear Athenians, Carolyn wrote: When Hahnemann talks about the syphilitic and gonorhheal miasms he talks about the taint.In today's world where we have antibiotics to kill off at least these two bacteria, is the taint still resident
CSStructured or super-ionized water (Lew/Marshall)
Hi, You wrote : What she sells is still very concentrated, and must be added to a gallon of spring water which is drunk over the course of a month. She said some claim there are 3 extra electrons and some billions. She said the water tests as nothing but water.. but it seems to glow and has a cloudiness. This dear lady is obviously painting for you a verbal picture of the Super ionized water with Homeopathic implcations, namely the dilution factor, dynamization and the etheric or electromagnetic quality. She is raising the spirit of Dr. Christian Samuel Freidrich Hahnemann,the celebrated German physician. I would be grateful if you would kindly request her to give you the dilution factor for the Super ionised water. I am interested in this little detail. In homeopathy, in accordance to Avogrado's Law, any dilution exceeding 24x will renderthe water tests as nothing but water . No atoms or molecules of the substance will be in evidence. But the potency increases by leaps and bounds and it seems to glow reveals its electromagnetic radiating energy.A high dilution generates hertizian waves which are named alpha,beta and gamma rays. Alpha rays correspond to very low and the gamma rays to very high potencies or dilutions. It is a fact that gamma rays are much more penetrating.It is these hertizian waves that are harmful : the radiations can injure the DNA/RNA material in the genes causing mutations. The rest is science fiction. I am sorry I have to bring in an irrelvant subject. I have no choice. With regards Lew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/magnetized water
Hi Charles, You wrote: How do you know this? Honestly, I have no experience with the other form of portable water. It is the magnetized and revitalized distilled water that I am using for consumption. Firstly, I rely on my tastse buds and secondly,through observation of the magnetized water. When I find there is precipitation on the bottom of the bottle, I sense that either the distillation process is incomplete perhaps due to ineffective absorption of volatile gases such as chlorine by the activated charcoal or that some extraneous electromagnetic source has suppressed the bioradiation of the plant-derived trace colloidal minerals added. Magnetized water can be rendered electromagnetically inert by exposing it to adjacent high tension cables, TV or computer after sometime. Sometimes, it is a combination of both, This phenomenon, I observed off and on.. I suppose the celebrated poet Southey can give you a better imagery with these words. Most blessed water, Neither tongue can tell The blessedness thereof, nor heart can think, Save only those to whom it hath been given To taste of that divinest gift of heaven; I stopped and drank of that divinest well Fresh from the rocks of ages where it ran; It had a heavenly quality to quell All pain, I rose a renovated man; And would not now,when that relief was known For worlds the needful suffering have forgone. ...how do you test magnetism in water? I have no machine to test for the magnetism in the liquid I drink. But if you have the means to subject your bottle of magnetised water to Kirlian Photography, you will be happy to observe that you can no more see your bottle but only a bright blinding source of illumunation. You are seeing Bioelectromagnetism ! There is nothing esoteric in the magnetic appendage in the elegant juicer you purchased, Charles. The principle involved is as old as the mountains. You sound younger ,Charles. With regards Lew Charles King wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:18:21 +0700, Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my wrote: The magnetised water will loose its magnetism in about 3 to 4 days. How do you know this? I mean, how do you test for magnetization in water? Chuck Inquiring minds want to know! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/magnetized water
Thank you sir. With regards Lew Marshall Dudley wrote: We test the the restructuring with a spectrophotometer. Marshall Charles King wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:18:21 +0700, Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my wrote: The magnetised water will loose its magnetism in about 3 to 4 days. How do you know this? I mean, how do you test for magnetization in water? Chuck Inquiring minds want to know! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSubject:Re:CSPure water,mineral water and magnets (Lew)
Dear Dale, I refer to your posting: Sat 18 Sep 1999 10:10:14.0700 Apologies for the late reply as my Computer1 crashed and I lost all the downloaded emails. I could not retrieve your email address either from the archives till Diane sent me your address. You wrote: I would like to know . what your definition of pure water. ...the formula of pure water is H2O. (H=1; O=16). Water chemically pure contains about eight parts by weight of oxygen and one part of hydrogen,but it is nowhere found in a natural condition. It usually contains lime,magnesia,iron, chloride of sodium,carbonic acid,silica,atmospheric air and organic substances. Wiel Unpolluted natural underground fresh water,having various organic and inorganic substances dissolved in it,which are important for physiological functions is sometimes called living water . Live water,opposed to the boiled water with the dissolved oxygen removed,may be chemically or biologically pure. The chemically live water contains mineral substances which can impair body functions. * Lime may cause Goitre or Renal Calculi * Magnesia may cause Diarrhoea * Iron may cause Liver problems and Dyspepsia * Vegetable and Animal Matter may cause infection of the gastro- intestinal tract like typhoid,cholera and Dysentry The biologically pure water shows vitality and life in its molecular dynamics. The biologically pure or good water is basically two molecules with three different ring structures [ Hexagonal, Pentagonal or Chains ]. The water molecules are changing at great speed to assume one of these structured forms. According to scientists,the form that is best for our health is the hexagonal ring structure.The reason is that water in the human body cells is of hexagonal ring structure and so drinking the water having the same structure means more affinity between the water molecules and thus healthier cells in the body. We are born with clustered water in the body.These are flake-like hexagonal forms which become structured during growth. .Hexagonal water molecules decrease with age due to enviromental,nutritional and emotional stress. The imbibition of potable liquid rich in hexagonal water molecules induces cellular regeneration, hence halting the process of aging. Fresh fruits and chilled water have relatively high concentration of hexagon ally structured water molecules. Magnetization enhances the restructuring process of the biologically pure water. My opinion is that the purity of water depends on its biological composition and not the chemical. From the esoteric realm, there is evidence of creation of Super-Ionised Water, a product of mind-geomagnetic-interplanetary interplay of cosmic forces There is a time and place for its experimental success.Its ultra high frequency is compatible to breaking strong bonds of man-made pollutants and earth products like fuel oil derivatives . Organically bound debris does not require such disruptive forces. because they are biodegradable. Using Alice Bailey's terminology, Man is an energy field with seven planes that influence and complement one another. Each plane is at a higher frequency. The visible plane is the Human Body. The other six planes are auric and are invisible.The human body is ensheathed by the six layers of auric forces each having its own frequency of vibrations. This belongs to the domain of the clairvoyant. But as an inspired earthling, I haphazard that my mortal body will not be able to receive or withstand the vibratory frequency emitted by the Super-Ionised Water. It is like Planet Earth fast approaching the Photon Belt in outer space,which has a higher vibratory frequency. The imposition of a higher oscillatory frequency onto the human body will bring about a state of disequilibrium in the human system causing dizziness and unsteadiness. There may be other unaccountable manifestations in biological systems. The human system is not ready yet to receive or able to withstand such accelerated frequency of vibration associated with Super-Ionised Water. These are my personal thougths on Super-Ionized Water. to destroy negative energy. Dose it matter which pole we use? I usually place clinically used items or any soiled reusable items between two opposing steel-coated magnetic disks, N and S, each about 3000 gauss at a distance of three feet in between the two magnets. I normally leave it for a day. I am afraid these magnets are unavailable. They are gifts from my holistic friend.. With regards Lew. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List
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Thanks Bob. I am looking forward to receiving the research material. You may address those researched notes to me at: *Clinic of Complementary and Alternative Medicine ( Research and Development ) 70-A Jalan Nanas, 41400 Klang Selangor Malaysia Tel: 603-3441162 or * Klinik FHLew 82B Jalan Kapar 41400 Klang Selangor, Malaysia Tel: 603-3440827 Mobile phone: 013 3631382 I am very glad Bob that you are spending quality time in Universities doing research along with other listers. It need not be colloidal silver in particular; it can be any subject under the sun for that matter. You and the other listers have set a very good example for us to follow. Knowledge is free for every one. If one's thirst for knowledge is intense enough,one has only to seek and you will always find. With regards Lew Tai-Pan wrote: Hi Lew, Understand what you are looking for now. Spent most of today at two university librarys looking for info. Will look more tomorrow. Think I have found some relevant information, which I will compose into a posting, sometime later today (wednesday). Hope other listers are doing the same,looking for info. :-) Some of what I`ve come across is very technical and may need mailing by post to you. Please send address. The e-mail does not have the nessessary characters to write it. Bless you Bob Lee Lew Fong How wrote: Hi Bob, You wrote: I don't think that ionized silver has anything to do with the dynamics of cerebral-spinal fluid circulation . Perhaps we should talk about desmosomes,tight junctions and other ways that materials pass in and out of cells,including brain cells. . That, Bob ,depends on what you have in mind when talking about the dynamics of cerebral-spinal fluid circulation . What I have in mind now is the the viral encephalitis caused by the Nipah virus which ravaged my country a few months ago. You have not seen a victim of encephalitis , have you? The wreckage caused by these critters is inhuman . That is the reason I joined the Silver list beause I think that colloidal silver is a good match for these critters and hope to glean some technological tit-bits first hand from those who are really involved. Perhaps, I oversimplified my choice of words because I did not want to appear augumentative and sound technological because I know very little of these lab procedures . I merely asked for some help to clear my mind on how best the silver ion can act osmotically in general 1. By Endosmosis: Through osmosis how the silver ion pass into a vessel or a cell 2. By Exomosis: Through osmosis how the silver ion pass within outward. . Knowing a little about the nature of its osmotic pressure and the filtration mechanism of the choroid plexeses, perhaps it might throw some light on the gateless nature of the silver ion and the gate nature of the chemically or biologically chelated silver ion. Any mineral if not chelated i.e.enclosed by amino-acids, will not be absorbed by a cell. A mineral ion is about 3 to 8 % bioavailable to the cell and the chelated mineral is about 40%. Mineral ions can form weak or unstable chelates with gluconates,ascorbates,lactates or citrates. In the body all minerals are protein chelates with exception of skeletal minerals calcium and phosporus.. The studies of the colloidal pressure of these chelated minerals and their presence in the cerebral-spinal fluid circulation might give us a glimpse as to their availability to the brain cells. Cells can only assimilate mineral ions in the aminoacid-coated form. Besides serving as a watery cushion for the brain and spine, it also balances the shrinking and expanding of the cranial contents by increasing or decreasing the a mount of the cerebrospinal fluid. Cellular nourishment and removal of waste are effected by its effective ciculation. Any infection of the cerebrospinal tract or blockage can affect the its circulation . In encephalitis, I would like to conjuncture how the colloidal silver is going to act when the dynamics of the cerebra-spinal flluid circulation is altered. The standard medical text describes that the cerebrospinal fluid is confined to the brain and the spinal cord. But the Russians have researched using radio-active dye that the circulation of the cerebro-spinal fluid extends peripherally to the extremities enclosed in its extenuated subarachnoid space..This was reported some time ago.If
Re: CSLew/magnetized water
Dear Katarina, Words do not break bones but stones will. Never judge others by their first impressions . The latter are both deceptive and misleading. Life is short and Art is long. So let us not waste time on puerile issues. I make magnetized water using two 1.5 litre glass bottles. With two round magnetic disks, one a north pole and the other a south, about 2 to 3 inches tall each, with N for North and S for South distinctly branded on their steel coated upper surface. I clearly label one bottle North and the other South. Then I place one labelled bottle on the circular surface of one magnet and the other bottle on the second magnet. I add a teaspoonful of colloidal minerals to each bottle and leave the whole setup for about 10 hours. I use distilled water. The magnetized colloidal minerals revitalise the distilled water. I pour out about 30 ml from each of the labelled bottles,mix the water in a glass.,that is, the combination of equal amount of N or S magnetized water. It is then ready for use. Please do not place the magnet in the water. The magnets are kept about a foot apart. I use the 3000 gauss magnets. The magnetised water will loose its magnetism in about 3 to 4 days. In Ayurveda: Water serves as nectar [preventive medicine] early in the morning and as a tonic when the food is digested;it works as a poison at the end of a meal and serves as medicine during fever. Please give me a little more past/present medical history of your nasal problems. With regards Lew. { This communication is only valid for information .Tt should not be taken as medical advice, ] Katarina Wittich wrote: Lew, thanks for all the useful info. Also wanted to say that I loved the gentle and heartfelt way that you responded to Bob's attack -- and loved watching how quickly it turned it into a clearly useful dialogue. However - I am drowning in health info and need desperately to poke my head out and spend more time on Yoga, using my brain's nose to absorb qi and other activities that have been neglected for a year of bad health and alternative medecine research. So can you give me a simple answer about the magnetized water? I have a hard plastic container in my fridge in which I store filtered tap water. Can I buy a magnet and place it under the container and will that work for now? At some later time I will do more research - but for now I have to start living somewhere other than in front of my computer!! Take care, Katarina Dear Katarina, I am typing out this posting as requested . I downloaded the original posting in a different computer and the line for the computer upstairs is defective. So I am sending this posting from my office. Subject : CSLew/MSM Date 18 Sep 1999 03:06:37 +0700 Reply to : d.linen@ flash.com cc to : silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Diane, You wrote: How does one find pure water ? At the present rate of global pollution,there is really no source of pure water. It is unsafe to drink from streams,rivers and more so from rain water when acid rain is very common. The human system is at the center of an electro-magnetic or etheric web which is generated by the bioradiation of tissue salts and their fellow colloidal mineral concomitants. Every body cell is potentially a small magnet. This etheric sheath covering the body has been proven scientifically and clairvoyantly, pulsates in rhythm with the different phases of respiration, It is fed by the Vital Force or Prana generated in the body. The etheric spectrum of colours as demonstrated by Kirlian photography,is a reflection of the quality of our Vital Force which is the manifestation of life energy. Hence, We are what we eat We are what we drink. We are what we breathe We are what we think We are what we practise The body system has the property to pick up and to store extraneous elect- romagnetic oscillations which may be pathological. These are seen in the etheric web as cracks [mild] or holes [severe] and serve to unbalance the individual mentally,emotionally and physically. These become thought forms and behave like etheric cockroaches and etheric parasites. Therefore, by pure water. I mean that the watern is not contaminated by pathological oscillations from whatever source. As a rule ,anything that has been touched,handled or exposed to a morbid enviroment,should be magnetized using powerful magnets
Re: CSLew/MSM
Dear Katarina, Here is the repost. Lew Hi Diane, You wrote: How does one find pure water? At the present rate of global pollution, there is really no source of pure water. It is unsafe to drink from streams, rivers and more so from rain water when acid rain is very common. The human system is at the centre of an electro-magnetic or etheric web which is generated by the bioradiation of tissue salts and their fellow colloidal mineral concomitants. Every body cell is potentially a small magnet. . This etheric shealth covering the body has been proven scientifically and clairvoyantly,pulsates in rhythm with the different phases of respiration .It is fed by the Vital Force or Prana generated in the body The etheric spectrum of colours as demonstrated by Kirlian photography , is a reflection of the quality of our Vital Force which is the manifestation of life energy. Hence, We are what we eat We are what we drink We are what we breathe We are what we think We are what we practise The body system has the property to pick up and to store extraneous electro- magnetic oscillations which may be pathological. These are seen in the etheric web as cracks [mild] and holes [severe] and serve to unbalance the individual mentally, emotionally or physically . These become thought forms and behave like etheric cockroaches or etheric parasites. Therefore, by pure water, I mean that the water is not contaiminated by pathological oscillations from whatever source. As a rule, anything that has been touched , handled or exposed to a morbid environment, should be magnetised using powerful magnets exceeding 3000 to 5000 gauss to destroy the stored up extraneous electro-magnetic oscillations. If possible,try to be selective in your choice of mineral water for drinking to feed the brain Qi . If doubtful, magnetise the mineral water for a few hours before drinking. With regards Lew d.linen wrote: Lew, I'm almost speechless here. I can NOT tell you how much I appreciate your recent posts about this subject. This one is as valuable as the others. You've explained this in a very helpful, useful way. I'd like to ask one thing though. How does one find pure water? What will do or be acceptable? Your very grateful fan Diane Lew Fong How wrote: it seems you're talking about Yogic pranayama,right ? . To breathe is to live and to be alive ,one has to breathe. In esoteric breathing, life is not measured in terms of years but in the number of breaths. Breathing is a mechanical act of inhalation and exhalation of atmospheric air, in and out of the body. Respiration is an on-going process from womb to the tomb, a life and energy generating process. The sanskrit word Prana meaning Life is the equivalent of Qi or Vital Force. Ayama means control. Pranayama means control of Prana or The Yoga Science of Breath Control. The prana in the atmospheric air performs a number of functions in the human body. Each has a specific name: 1. Prana: It circulates around the heart and controls breathing 2. Apna: It circulates in the lower region of the abdomen and controls excretory functions [ Urine and faeces] 3. Samana : It stimulates the gastric juices and aids digestion. 4. Udana : It remains in the thoracic cage and controls the absorption of air and food. 5. Vyana: It spreads throughout the body and distributes the energy from food and breath. 6. Naga: It relieves abdominal pressure by provoking excretion. 7. Kurma: It controls the eyelids to prevent foreign bodies from entering and dazzling light from harming the eyes. 8. Krkara: It prevents certain substances from rising into the nasal cavities or descending into the throat causing sneezing and coughing. 9. Devadutta: It ensures the absorption of extra oxygen into a tired body and causes yawning. 10. Dhananjaya: It remains in the body even after death and sometimes causes the corpse to swell. I practise Pranayama by closing my nostrile with index finger and thumb alternately first my right ,breathing out slowly through the left and then the left and breathing slowly through the right nostrile, 10 times daily. One physio-biochemical rationale of this practice is to acclimatise the brain to an optimum level of Carbon dioxide saturation to maintain patency
Re: CSLew/magnetized water
Try this link: http://www.lycos.com/cgi-bin/pursuit?cat=dirquery=water+%2Cmagnet Katarina Wittich wrote: Hi Lew, I seem to have missed the post in which you describe how to magnetize water for pure drinking water -- could you post it again? What type of magnet and what you do with the water? Do you put it in. Dear Katarina, The Website Link suggested is a very good one. Try to go through it seeking out the writeup 's principles . I am sure you will stand to learn more and this little contribution on magnetism will serve as your core knowledge as you explore the holistic realm. In Meditation, in quieting of the mind, in the stilling of any bodily function, the continuity of the circulation of Qi or Prana must be established through mindful breathing.. The connection for the ongoing circulation of Qi is established when the tip of the tongue is pressed against the hard palate,the roof of the mouth, esoterically speaking. Another way of saying it is : You are channeling Qi directly through your brains's nose. With regards Lew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/magnetized water
Dear Katarina, I am typing out this posting as requested . I downloaded the original posting in a different computer and the line for the computer upstairs is defective. So I am sending this posting from my office. Subject : CSLew/MSM Date 18 Sep 1999 03:06:37 +0700 Reply to : d.linen@ flash.com cc to : silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Diane, You wrote: How does one find pure water ? At the present rate of global pollution,there is really no source of pure water. It is unsafe to drink from streams,rivers and more so from rain water when acid rain is very common. The human system is at the center of an electro-magnetic or etheric web which is generated by the bioradiation of tissue salts and their fellow colloidal mineral concomitants. Every body cell is potentially a small magnet. This etheric sheath covering the body has been proven scientifically and clairvoyantly, pulsates in rhythm with the different phases of respiration, It is fed by the Vital Force or Prana generated in the body. The etheric spectrum of colours as demonstrated by Kirlian photography,is a reflection of the quality of our Vital Force which is the manifestation of life energy. Hence, We are what we eat We are what we drink. We are what we breathe We are what we think We are what we practise The body system has the property to pick up and to store extraneous elect- romagnetic oscillations which may be pathological. These are seen in the etheric web as cracks [mild] or holes [severe] and serve to unbalance the individual mentally,emotionally and physically. These become thought forms and behave like etheric cockroaches and etheric parasites. Therefore, by pure water. I mean that the watern is not contaminated by pathological oscillations from whatever source. As a rule ,anything that has been touched,handled or exposed to a morbid enviroment,should be magnetized using powerful magnets exceeding 3000 to 5000 gauss to destroy the stored up extraneous electro-magnetic oscillations. If possible,try to be selective in your choice of mineral water for drinking to feed the brain qi . If doubtful, magnetize the mineral water for a few hours before drinking. With regards Lew . Katarina Wittich wrote: Hi Lew, I seem to have missed the post in which you describe how to magnetize water for pure drinking water -- could you post it again? What type of magnet and what you do with the water? Do you put it in? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Katarina Wittich wrote: Hi Lew, I seem to have missed the post in which you describe how to magnetize water for pure drinking water -- could you post it again? What type of magnet and what you do with the water? Do you put it in? Thanks, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGary/sinus/Bronchial infections/Nebuliser/Yay!!
Dear Katarina, Yous wrote: I hold it on my tongue against the roof of my mouth until I can feel my sinuses clearing, then swallow and do again every once in a while. Clever girl ! You do it right. But please tell me why you place the ' tip' of your tongue against the roof of your mouth and not your tongue against your cheek? I can perceive those who meditate are answering the question aloud. Om Mani Pat Me Hum Lew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: question
Dear Daniel and Karen. It is really kind of you both to be so generous and kind I have conveyed your generous offer to my dental colleague, Dr. Koay who is a very active church member. I am positive you will hear from him very soon. I will do everything I can to channel your high spirits and goodwill to the multiracial Malaysians who will be benefited from your generosity, irrespective of religion or sect. I come from a buddhist family . I bow and pray in every place of worship and I am colour-blind. May Buddha shower blessings on you both ,Daniel and Karen and on your generous organization. With respectful regards Lew [ Malaysia ]l -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: Re: question]
Original Message Subject: Re: question Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:06:03 +0700 From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: @webchoice.net, silver-list@eskimo.com References: b215...@mail.webchoice.net Dear Daniel and Karen. It is really kind of you both to be so generous and kind I have conveyed your generous offer to my dental colleague, Dr. Koay who is a very active church member. I am positive you will hear from him very soon. I will do everything I can to channel your high spirits and goodwill to the multiracial Malaysians who will be benefited from your generosity, irrespective of religion or sect. I come from a buddhist family . I bow and pray in every place of worship and I am colour-blind. May Buddha shower blessings on you both ,Daniel and Karen and on your generous organization. With respectful regards Lew [ Malaysia ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/MSM
Dear kato...@aol.com wrote: Dear Lew, Thank you so much for your generosity in writing to me at such length about my problems. Your information about the brain's nose is very interesting What would you suggest to do to help improve it's ventilation? I just got a tape on the Butenyko method which is very interesting and may try practicing it. I also think your idea of using the colloidal silver in an organic form makes a lot of sense. When you talk about botanization - do you mean things like growing wheatgrass in a solution of cs and then drinking the juice? Have you tried this for infections, or is it more for general maintenance? Thanks again. Take care, Katarina Dear Katerina I hope that long winded passage leads you somewhere. The Buteyko Method is a good start for you. For the raising of my wheatgrass crowd, I have for their nursery Saw-dust with Humus added a depth of about an inch and a half spread over plastic trays. The wheatgrass berries are ORGANICALLY CERTIFIED and are imported from Australia. Please do not raise genetically engineered seeds. My wheat grass crowd offers their best to patients and friends for health care maintenance with the best nutrients you can find in the world. They thrive very well feeding them with Colloidal Silver and Trace Colloidal Minerals. It is the enzymes in the wheat grass juice that will expedite recovery and rejuvenation.They grow faster here because of the warmer climate. You can grow wheat grass yourself in the kitchen. I am sure you can purchase all the nursery items in America. Sometimes, I spay some food grade diluted hydrogen peroxide in their nursery bed to get rid of the moldy bugs. Please don't spray over them. They don't like it. You can see it for yourself. Colloidal Silver is metallic and inorganic. The body utilizes only atoms,molecules or aggregates of molecules which are organically bound and are carbon based. It is unidirectional and in accordance to the Principle of Phyto- bidirectionality, it is unbalanced and behaves like a drug or a chemical. The question of chemical interactions and their accompanying side effects then has to be considered. So long there is sufficient reserve for balancing its incorporation into the carbon based matrix compatible with cellular assimilation,, it escapes rejection by the cell's immune surveillance system. Its accumulation as inorganic waste in the body will clog up vital circulation and organs leading to morbid manisfestations.Its long term usage and accumulative safety margin in the human and animal system have never been scientifically proven. The good news has always been anecdotal. There is no doubt about its anti-microbial potency but how safe is safe in terms of toxicity. Without the altruistic support of the big money guys for its vindication, venues for its safe usage by healthcare consumers have to be cogitated. To my mind, botanization of colloidal silver involves the concept that plants through their photosynthetic mechanism,converts solar energy into storage food energy and in the process causes a transformation of the constituents absorbed before botanical incorporation.The photo-synthetic product is now a carbon based , mineral-rich part of the plant. The genesis of life originates from carbon based molecular aggregates In the evolutionary scale, the bandwidth [ the inherent range of frequencies] of the plant kingdom approximates that of the human. Hence, phytochemicals derived from plants are more compatible to homo sapiens than those inorganic substances extracted from the mineral kingdom. The photosynthetic food is the resultant of the resonance of two sun rays [ the red and the blue ] and therefore is the equivalent of a musical chord. Whether,physiologically,biochemically or abstractly, life is a melody. How can a Part hear the Whole, or a note The Melody ? Believe me, corns have ears for music. But the botanized mineral not only resonates, it also bioradiates. I suggest the chewing and drinking of Wheat grass Juice botanized with Colloid Silver and Trace Colloidal Minerals to all and sundry in sickness or in good health.. With regards Lew [Malaysia] [ This communication is only of informative value and should not be taken as medical advice.] kato...@aol.com wrote: Dear Lew, Thank you so much for your generosity in writing to me at such length about my problems. Your information about the brain's nose is very interesting What would you suggest to do to help improve it's ventilation? I just got a tape on the Butenyko method which is very interesting and may try practicing it. I also think your idea of using the colloidal silver in an organic form makes a lot of sense. When you talk about botanization - do you mean things like
Re: CSFW: Osteoporosis
Maybe a few more relevant details on past/present medical /surgical history will give a better perspective to work on. Lew [Malaysia] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/MSM
Hi Diane, You wrote: How does one find pure water? At the present rate of global pollution, there is really no source of pure water. It unsafe to drink from streams, rivers and more so from rain water when acid rain is very common. The human system is at the centre of an electro-magnetic or etheric web which is generated by the bioradiation of tissue salts and their fellow colloidal mineral concomitants. Every body cell is potentially a small magnet. . This etheric shealth covering the body has been proven scientifically and clairvoyantly,pulsates in rhythm with the different phases of respiration .It is fed by the Vital Force or Prana generated in the body The etheric spectrum of colours as demonstrated by Kirlian photography , is a reflection of the quality of our Vital Force which is the manifestation of life energy. Hence, We are what we eat .We are what we drink We are what we breathe We are what we think We are what we practise The body system has the property to pick up and to store extraneous electro- magnetic oscillations which may be pathological. These are seen in the etheric web as cracks [mild] and holes [severe] and serve to unbalance the individual mentally, emotionally or physically . These become thought forms and behave like etheric cockroaches or etheric parasites. Therefore, by pure water, I mean that the water is not contaiminated by pathological oscillations from whatever source. As a rule, anything that has been touched , handled or exposed to a morbid environment, should be magnetised using powerful magnets exceeding 3000 to 5000 gauss to destroy the stored up extraneous electro-magnetic oscillations. If possible,try to be selective in your choice of mineral water for drinking to feed the brain Qi . If doubtful, magnetise the mineral water for a few hours before drinking. With regards Lew d.linen wrote: Lew, I'm almost speechless here. I can NOT tell you how much I appreciate your recent posts about this subject. This one is as valuable as the others. You've explained this in a very helpful, useful way. I'd like to ask one thing though. How does one find pure water? What will do or be acceptable? Your very grateful fan Diane Lew Fong How wrote: it seems you're talking about Yogic pranayama,right ? . To breathe is to live and to be alive ,one has to breathe. In esoteric breathing, life is not measured in terms of years but in the number of breaths. Breathing is a mechanical act of inhalation and exhalation of atmospheric air, in and out of the body. Respiration is an on-going process from womb to the tomb, a life and energy generating process. The sanskrit word Prana meaning Life is the equivalent of Qi or Vital Force. Ayama means control. Pranayama means control of Prana or The Yoga Science of Breath Control. The prana in the atmospheric air performs a number of functions in the human body. Each has a specific name: 1. Prana: It circulates around the heart and controls breathing 2. Apna: It circulates in the lower region of the abdomen and controls excretory functions [ Urine and faeces] 3. Samana : It stimulates the gastric juices and aids digestion. 4. Udana : It remains in the thoracic cage and controls the absorption of air and food. 5. Vyana: It spreads throughout the body and distributes the energy from food and breath. 6. Naga: It relieves abdominal pressure by provoking excretion. 7. Kurma: It controls the eyelids to prevent foreign bodies from entering and dazzling light from harming the eyes. 8. Krkara: It prevents certain substances from rising into the nasal cavities or descending into the throat causing sneezing and coughing. 9. Devadutta: It ensures the absorption of extra oxygen into a tired body and causes yawning. 10. Dhananjaya: It remains in the body even after death and sometimes causes the corpse to swell. I practise Pranayama by closing my nostrile with index finger and thumb alternately first my right ,breathing out slowly through the left and then the left and breathing slowly through the right nostrile, 10 times daily. One physio-biochemical rationale of this practice is to acclimatise the brain to an optimum level of Carbon dioxide saturation to maintain patency of the respiratoy tract. The principle of making patients with wheezing cough
Re: CSLew/MSM
- Original Message - From: Charles King ck...@global2000.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 6:05 AM Subject: Re: CSLew/MSM On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:34:18 +0700, Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my wrote: Controlled respiration with breath-holding helps to restore normal breathing resulting in better gaseous exchange. Fascinating, thank you. I've never heard any of the rest before. Above, it seems you're talking about Yogic pranayama, right? Chuck Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function ** You wrote: it seems you're talking about Yogic pranayama,right ? . To breathe is to live and to be alive ,one has to breathe. In esoteric breathing, life is not measured in terms of years but in the number of breaths. Breathing is a mechanical act of inhalation and exhalation of atmospheric air, in and out of the body. Respiration is an on-going process from womb to the tomb, a life and energy generating process. The sanskrit word Prana meaning Life is the equivalent of Qi or Vital Force. Ayama means control. Pranayama means control of Prana or The Yoga Science of Breath Control. The prana in the atmospheric air performs a number of functions in the human body. Each has a specific name: 1. Prana: It circulates around the heart and controls breathing 2. Apna: It circulates in the lower region of the abdomen and controls excretory functions [ Urine and faeces] 3. Samana : It stimulates the gastric juices and aids digestion. 4. Udana : It remains in the thoracic cage and controls the absorption of air and food. 5. Vyana: It spreads throughout the body and distributes the energy from food and breath. 6. Naga: It relieves abdominal pressure by provoking excretion. 7. Kurma: It controls the eyelids to prevent foreign bodies from entering and dazzling light from harming the eyes. 8. Krkara: It prevents certain substances from rising into the nasal cavities or descending into the throat causing sneezing and coughing. 9. Devadutta: It ensures the absorption of extra oxygen into a tired body and causes yawning. 10. Dhananjaya: It remains in the body even after death and sometimes causes the corpse to swell. I practise Pranayama by closing my nostrile with index finger and thumb alternately first my right ,breathing out slowly through the left and then the left and breathing slowly through the right nostrile, 10 times daily. One physio-biochemical rationale of this practice is to acclimatise the brain to an optimum level of Carbon dioxide saturation to maintain patency of the respiratoy tract. The principle of making patients with wheezing cough breathe through a punctured paper bag and coughing through the nose,was not known to me till lately. This is done mainly to conserve and to rebreathe the carbon dixide which restores the normal functions of the respiratory tract in obstructive airway disorders as in Asthma ,bronchitis and the like. The human brain is unique in many ways. It utilises blood glucose with- out the intervention of insulin. It ventilates and breathes through the cribriform plate,its nose,in the floor of the anterior cranial fossa,and partly forming the roof of the nasal cavities. The brain absorbs Qi directly from water in the mouth. This is possible only when we drink pure water not piped water which is unstructured. Qi is present in abundance in structured water which is good water containing large number of hexagonal type of water molecules, the others being of the polygonal and straight-chain type. In the sick cell, there is a ring of unstructured water molecules encompassing the cell. In the healthy cell, the water molecules are structured and smaller with more electrons. The body senses beverages and juices as liquid food. Thus, food with liquids taken during meals , the body's sensing system will only recognise as wet food. The brain is fed Qi only when water is drunk. Though,the body may be satiated and hydrated, in actuality, it is really dying of thirst ! The generation of Qi from water to feed the brain is done as follows: 1. Use unboiled pure water 2.Take,first thing in the morning,a mouthful of pure water 3. Hold it in the mouth to the count of 10 4. Then, spit it out as forcefully as you can 5. Repeat two more times 6. On the fourth round, drink it ! 7. Take a glass of water 1/2 an hour before each meal. The combination of mindful breathing and drinking of pure water forms the basis of Pranayama which purifies the body and the mind. With regards Lew
Re: CSurgently looking for help
- Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:00 AM Subject: RE: CSurgently looking for help Hello, Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Yours is the kind of situation where I am glad to have the services of a MD. Some thoughts: The CS is killing pathogens selectively, allowing a superinfection of a resistant strain, a rare possibility. You have a kidney problem caused by something other than a pathogen. The pus is puzzling, though. You are allergic to silver. Your process is making something other than, or in-addition-to CS. There is a question about CS reaching the bladder; being removed in the liver and reticuloendothelium. I have not seen hard info. Is bladder pressure a symptom of kidney problem or more associated with a bladder infection? and, let's not forget The X factor If you stop the silver, don't take the other ABX, and it goes away, it tells nothing. If you stop the silver and don't take the ABX and it gets better it may indicate that it was a superinfection. If you stop taking the silver and take the ABX and it get better it indicated a strain resistant to CS. Another option would be increasing the CS dosage, if you are confidant of the quality. I it gets worse, stop the silver and take the ABX. Not medical advice, heaven forbid, just some comments about what I would be thinking if I were in your situation. Trust your doctor and your intuition... Please keep us posted. Good fortune. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Walker, Vicky J SUP:EX [SMTP:vicky.wal...@gems3.gov.bc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:57 PM To: silver-List@eskimo.com Subject: CSurgently looking for help Hello list members, I would like to ask you a question because I am totally confused. I started to use CS approximately 2 weeks ago. I am doing my own colloidal silver and I am drinking 2oz in the morning and 2 oz in the evening. I started to have some bladder pressure a few days ago. I didn't do anything about it because I thought that this is only temporary thing. Yesterday evening I notice some blood passing with my urine and bloody mucus. I decided to go to see a doctor today morning. He checked my urine and said that he found blood, proteins and N2 there. He suspects bladder infection therefore he prescribed anybiotics (Cipro for 3 days). The urine was sent to the lab for the culture to see what kind of bacteria is there. And here is the confusion. I don't know if I have bladder infection but it I have than I should not have it because I was taking CS for 2 weeks. My other theory is that while I was taking CS I didn't drink a lot of water so maybe I have kidney overload? I didn't take the anybiotics yet because I am not sure if this is kidney infection. I would like to know what do you think? Please let me know because I am completely confused. my e-mail: vjwal...@martian.bc.ca *** Hi there, I drop in to say hello and to find out how things are going with you after going through your message. Remember, my conversation with you is purely domestic. You are to follow strictly the instructions given to you by your attending physician and you should not alter his regime without his permission while you are in his care. My differential resume ** * The pressure symptoms of you bladder are suggestive of an obstructive /inflammatory pathology . * James 's assumption: Your process is making something other than,or in - addition - to CS. is logical. The immune complexes formed could lead to allergy ! * To STOP taking Colloidal Silver interim. Be mindful of any new sign or symptom. To inform your physician IMMEDIATELY * Might consider doing an IVP [ Intravenous Pyelogram ] to delineate any obstructive mechanism and the level of obstruction [ whether in the kidney, the ureters or the bladder] Any enlargement or contracture of the kidneys or dilation of the ureters may be delineated. * Might want ulrasounography done for stones in Kidneys,Ureters and Bladder. These are the possible obstructive elements. * To take a more detailed history pertaining to the urogenital system To ask for more specific information on the frequency of urination, any pain during micturition, any difficulty in initiating micturition: the localization of pain and its directional radiation of pain. * While waiting
Re: CSurgently looking for help
- Original Message - From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Vicky wal...@gems3.gov.bc.ca Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 3:17 PM Subject: Re: CSurgently looking for help - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:00 AM Subject: RE: CSurgently looking for help Hello, Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Yours is the kind of situation where I am glad to have the services of a MD. Some thoughts: The CS is killing pathogens selectively, allowing a superinfection of a resistant strain, a rare possibility. You have a kidney problem caused by something other than a pathogen. The pus is puzzling, though. You are allergic to silver. Your process is making something other than, or in-addition-to CS. There is a question about CS reaching the bladder; being removed in the liver and reticuloendothelium. I have not seen hard info. Is bladder pressure a symptom of kidney problem or more associated with a bladder infection? and, let's not forget The X factor If you stop the silver, don't take the other ABX, and it goes away, it tells nothing. If you stop the silver and don't take the ABX and it gets better it may indicate that it was a superinfection. If you stop taking the silver and take the ABX and it get better it indicated a strain resistant to CS. Another option would be increasing the CS dosage, if you are confidant of the quality. I it gets worse, stop the silver and take the ABX. Not medical advice, heaven forbid, just some comments about what I would be thinking if I were in your situation. Trust your doctor and your intuition... Please keep us posted. Good fortune. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Walker, Vicky J SUP:EX [SMTP:vicky.wal...@gems3.gov.bc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:57 PM To: silver-List@eskimo.com Subject: CSurgently looking for help Hello list members, I would like to ask you a question because I am totally confused. I started to use CS approximately 2 weeks ago. I am doing my own colloidal silver and I am drinking 2oz in the morning and 2 oz in the evening. I started to have some bladder pressure a few days ago. I didn't do anything about it because I thought that this is only temporary thing. Yesterday evening I notice some blood passing with my urine and bloody mucus. I decided to go to see a doctor today morning. He checked my urine and said that he found blood, proteins and N2 there. He suspects bladder infection therefore he prescribed anybiotics (Cipro for 3 days). The urine was sent to the lab for the culture to see what kind of bacteria is there. And here is the confusion. I don't know if I have bladder infection but it I have than I should not have it because I was taking CS for 2 weeks. My other theory is that while I was taking CS I didn't drink a lot of water so maybe I have kidney overload? I didn't take the anybiotics yet because I am not sure if this is kidney infection. I would like to know what do you think? Please let me know because I am completely confused. my e-mail: vjwal...@martian.bc.ca *** Hi there, I drop in to say hello and to find out how things are going with you after going through your message. Remember, my conversation with you is purely domestic. You are to follow strictly the instructions given to you by your attending physician and you should not alter his regime without his permission while you are in his care. My differential resume ** * The pressure symptoms of you bladder are suggestive of an obstructive /inflammatory pathology . * James 's assumption: Your process is making something other than,or in - addition - to CS. is logical. The immune complexes formed could lead to allergy ! * To STOP taking Colloidal Silver interim. Be mindful of any new sign or symptom. To inform your physician IMMEDIATELY * Might consider doing an IVP [ Intravenous Pyelogram ] to delineate any obstructive mechanism and the level of obstruction [ whether in the kidney, the ureters or the bladder] Any enlargement or contracture of the kidneys or dilation of the ureters may be delineated. * Might want ulrasounography done for stones in Kidneys,Ureters and Bladder. These are the possible obstructive elements. * To take a more detailed history
Re: CSLew/MSM
- Original Message - From: kato...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 6:44 AM Subject: CSLew/MSM Dear Lew, You wrote: Dear Katarina, You wrote: my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria and other nasty things which flourish when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to it that Colloidal Silver is an extremely powerful anti-biotic/viral / fungal,but it can kill brain cells and cause scarring in the brain I appreciate your MD's warnings. These clinical findings are serious and have far reaching consequences. Can your Holistic MD substantiate the warnings ? I am positive his postings will be of great value to healthcare consumers and Nature's assistants like me. With regards Lew [ Malaysia ] I wish his warnings were based on trials and he could substantiate them - or actually, perhaps I am glad that they are not, because I would prefer it if CS and MSM had no possible side effects since they are such helpful tools for good health. His warnings come only from what he has seen in his practice, and therefore, like most of the evidence of how well CS works in humans, are basically anectodotal. I tend to think that he is a brilliant doctor in his own field - but an alarmist and possibly prejudiced against tools which he doesn't use. So it worries me when he says these things - but I have no idea if they are true or not. For myself, I have decided that when I have sinus infections it is worth the risk of going against his warnings and using CS for them. But unfortunately, several weeks after using a lot of CS for my sinus infection I have developed a terrible spaciness and feeling of not quite being in my body and problems with my eyes, which could be the damage that he warned me about -- I don't think so - but everyone has a different theory of what it is and no-one knows for sure. So I wish there were enough studies to prove one way or the other the safety of CS or MSM -- but since the big money guys want anything they can't make big money off suppressed, I guess it will be a while before such studies get funded -- probably when antibiotics clearly no longer work at all. Hope that helps, not confuses. Take care, Katarina PS. I think one of the questions which is unresolved is whether CS makes it through the blood/brain barrier into the brain -- does anyone have any opinions on this? * Dear Katerina, You wrote: But unfortunately,several weeks after using a lot of CS for my sinus infection I have developed a terrible spaciness and feeling of not quite being in my body and problems with my eyes, which could be the damage that he warned me about-I don't think so - but everyone has a different theory of what it is and no-one knows for sure. So I wish there were enough studies to prove one way or the other There were times when I felt terribly let down by my peers and teachers when confronted by professional challenges in life. I felt then that they have deliberately held back some of the tutorials which perhaps could have spared me some of the most embarrassing moments in my life. I thought that schooling was hard enough but I realised that it was a lot easier than growing up, professionally speaking.. The bottom line is : there is more virtue in research than in resting on one's professional pride. The healing jig-saw puzzle has already been programmed into every one of us by the time we leave medical college and it is up to the individual to piece it together in his or her own way. I discovered that babies presenting with fever need not be due to an infection. Overfed babies running high fever after emptying their stomach by vomiting quickjly settled down without any further need of prescription except for feeding advice. A few ill timed vomiting episodes in the consultation room convinced me of that.. I was never taught Gastric Fever in medical school. I was never shown a case of uterine cough during my clinical years till I started maternity clinics where I witnessed gravid ladies coughing their way through till term when the cough suddenly ceased. So is the case of chronic nasal drip which turned out to be leakage of cerebro-spinal fluid due to an undivulged accident with head injury the patient sustained sometime ago. It is standard medical teaching that the cerebro-spinal fluid circulates only in the brain and spinal cord. But the Russians have proven ,using radio-active dyes that the circulation of the cerebro-spinal fluid extends peripherally bathing the nerve fibres . Besides our lungs, the skin is also a breathing and excretory organ. The higher incidence of breast cancer in
Re: CS Problems
- Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: Re: CS Problems - Original Message - From: bober...@swbell.net Hi Ivan; G'Day Bob, Thanks for the responce. I have printed it out so I can now loose it in the files :) The spectrophotometer reads only the ionic portion. I guess that I will have to ask Marshall to run through the digsetion process, as the fumes are very hazardous. Do you need to treat your CS in a specific manner to isolate the ionic portion? I will set up to day and run your parameters, but I have a question. If you product is totally ionic how can it be called colloidal silver as a colloid is metal. I'm not sure if I understand you here Bob. A colloid is simply a description of a state wherein particles are distributed thoughout a medium (solid or liquid) and the particles are of size range (1 - 1000 nm) which is too small to be considered a suspension and too large to be thought of as disolved. The particles may or may not be metalic, and may be electrically neutral or charged (ionic). Ionic particles are simply atoms, molecules or particles which have lost or gained electrons and are not electrically neutral. Some people use the term ionic to mean disolved elements or compounds (physics vs chemistry, organic chemistry vs inorganic chemistry) which just causes confusion. A totally ionic colloid, as far as I am concerned, is a colloid composed of ions, be they single atoms or multiatomic, or a mixture of both. In talking to my chemist friends nitirc acid will not dissolve silver colloid unless one boils it dry and does some reconstituting and normallizing (HELP). Normally nitric acid will turn silver black immediately and attack it very vigiorously, but not in the colloidal state. That is understandable if the colloid is ionic. Ag+ ions have already been oxidised (lost an electron) and considerable energy would be required to remove further electrons, so no reaction. What is the object of reacting silver with nitric acid? Would this not produce silver nitrate? How about some of you chem techies putting in about 3 cents worth right about here? Ivan, send your mail address off list as I would like to send you some things. i...@win.co.nz Ole Bob Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS Problems
- Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: Re: CS Problems - Original Message - From: bober...@swbell.net Hi Ivan; G'Day Bob, Thanks for the responce. I have printed it out so I can now loose it in the files :) The spectrophotometer reads only the ionic portion. I guess that I will have to ask Marshall to run through the digsetion process, as the fumes are very hazardous. Do you need to treat your CS in a specific manner to isolate the ionic portion? I will set up to day and run your parameters, but I have a question. If you product is totally ionic how can it be called colloidal silver as a colloid is metal. I'm not sure if I understand you here Bob. A colloid is simply a description of a state wherein particles are distributed thoughout a medium (solid or liquid) and the particles are of size range (1 - 1000 nm) which is too small to be considered a suspension and too large to be thought of as disolved. The particles may or may not be metalic, and may be electrically neutral or charged (ionic). Ionic particles are simply atoms, molecules or particles which have lost or gained electrons and are not electrically neutral. Some people use the term ionic to mean disolved elements or compounds (physics vs chemistry, organic chemistry vs inorganic chemistry) which just causes confusion. A totally ionic colloid, as far as I am concerned, is a colloid composed of ions, be they single atoms or multiatomic, or a mixture of both. In talking to my chemist friends nitirc acid will not dissolve silver colloid unless one boils it dry and does some reconstituting and normallizing (HELP). Normally nitric acid will turn silver black immediately and attack it very vigiorously, but not in the colloidal state. That is understandable if the colloid is ionic. Ag+ ions have already been oxidised (lost an electron) and considerable energy would be required to remove further electrons, so no reaction. What is the object of reacting silver with nitric acid? Would this not produce silver nitrate? How about some of you chem techies putting in about 3 cents worth right about here? Ivan, send your mail address off list as I would like to send you some things. i...@win.co.nz Ole Bob Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS Problems
- Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: Re: CS Problems - Original Message - From: bober...@swbell.net Hi Ivan; G'Day Bob, Thanks for the responce. I have printed it out so I can now loose it in the files :) The spectrophotometer reads only the ionic portion. I guess that I will have to ask Marshall to run through the digsetion process, as the fumes are very hazardous. Do you need to treat your CS in a specific manner to isolate the ionic portion? I will set up to day and run your parameters, but I have a question. If you product is totally ionic how can it be called colloidal silver as a colloid is metal. ** Dear Ivan, You wrote: ... A colloid is simply a description of a state wherein particles are distributed thoughout a medium (solid or liquid) and the particles are of size range (1 - 1000 nm) which is too small to be considered a suspension and too large to be thought of as disolved. The particles may or may not be metalic, and may be electrically neutral or charged (ionic). Ionic particles are simply atoms, molecules or particles which have lost or gained electrons and are not electrically neutral. Some people use the term ionic to mean disolved elements or compounds (physics vs chemistry, organic chemistry vs inorganic chemistry) which just causes confusion. There are many uncertainties revolving round this gateless gate: The Blood- Brain Barrier. I find there is relevance in what you have written to give it a physio-biochemical basis on colloidal silver. You will be helping me by giving a defination of : 1. Osmotic Pressure 2. Oncotic [ colloidal ] pressure in terms of atoms,molecules and particles of ionised silver i.e. to support the dynamics of cerebral-spinal fluid circulation. With regards Lew -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLew/MSM
- Original Message - From: RON BRENNEN b...@lcia.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:25 AM Subject: Re: CSLew/MSM kato...@aol.com wrote: Dear Lew, You wrote: Dear Katarina, You wrote: my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria and other nasty things which flourish when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to it that Colloidal Silver is an extremely powerful anti-biotic/viral / fungal,but it can kill brain cells and cause scarring in the brain I appreciate your MD's warnings. These clinical findings are serious and have far reaching consequences. Can your Holistic MD substantiate the warnings ? I am positive his postings will be of great value to healthcare consumers and Nature's assistants like me. With regards Lew [ Malaysia ] I wish his warnings were based on trials and he could substantiate them - or actually, perhaps I am glad that they are not, because I would prefer it if CS and MSM had no possible side effects since they are such helpful tools for good health. His warnings come only from what he has seen in his practice, and therefore, like most of the evidence of how well CS works in humans, are basically anectodotal. I tend to think that he is a brilliant doctor in his own field - but an alarmist and possibly prejudiced against tools which he doesn't use. So it worries me when he says these things - but I have no idea if they are true or not. For myself, I have decided that when I have sinus infections it is worth the risk of going against his warnings and using CS for them. But unfortunately, several weeks after using a lot of CS for my sinus infection I have developed a terrible spaciness and feeling of not quite being in my body and problems with my eyes, which could be the damage that he warned me about -- I don't think so - but everyone has a different theory of what it is and no-one knows for sure. So I wish there were enough studies to prove one way or the other the safety of CS or MSM -- but since the big money guys want anything they can't make big money off suppressed, I guess it will be a while before such studies get funded -- probably when antibiotics clearly no longer work at all. Hope that helps, not confuses. Take care, Katarina PS. I think one of the questions which is unresolved is whether CS makes it through the blood/brain barrier into the brain -- does anyone have any opinions on this? For what its worth, Edgar Cayce said: The proper use of Gold and and silver has the potential to double your life span. Ron * Dear Ron, You wrote: Edgar Cayce said: The proper use of Gold and Silver has the potential to double your life span. He is absolutely right ! I like this leading starement. In Cellular Physio-biochemistry, the total health of a body system is a reflection of the functional integrity of a cell. Malfunction of an organ or illness is due to dysfunctional cells.The malfunctioning of a cell is usually due to deficiency of a tissue salt or salts of which there are twelve [ The 12 cell salts of Dr,Wilheim Schuessler MD.]Professor Virchow, a prominent authority on cellular diseases and cell cancer, defines disease as a lack of some constituent part of the blood at the part affected.A chemico-physiological restoration of cellular health requires an infinitesimal supply of cell-salts which are absorbed minerals and trace mineral concomitants like Gold and Silver . These cell salts in their proportinal combinations act synergistically with other organic body chemcals, activate structures that make the person and form the personality,are the living forces that repair hurts and ignite the vitality of the body which is esoterically called the Vital Force, Chi or Prana. Therefore, tissue salts and trace minerals are involved in the genesis of life itself ! The hurts are due to stress which may be: Physical Chemical Microbial Parasitic Toxic [ due to heavy metals - Mercury ] Electromagnetic Emotional Spiritual Pyschological and Predisposing genetic factors In the resting stage, every cell has an
Re: CSRe:MSM
- Original Message - From: Katarina Wittich kato...@mindspring.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:41 AM Subject: CSRe:MSM Hey Guys, For what it's worth - my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria and other nasty things which flourish when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to it. However, he is also the guy who says that Colloidal Silver is an extremely powerful anti-biotic/viral/fungal, but that it can kill brain cells and cause scarring in the brain and other bad things. So who knows. My Holistic MD swears by it. Has anyone else ever heard anything bad about it? Katarina * Dear Katarina, You wrote: my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria and other nasty things which flourish when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to it that Colloidal Silver is an extremely powerful anti-biotic/viral / fungal,but it can kill brain cells and cause scarring in the brain I appreciate your MD's warnings. These clinical findings are serious and have far reaching consequences. Can your Holistic MD substantiate the warnings ? I am positive his postings will be of great value to healthcare consumers and Nature's assistants like me. With regards Lew [ Malaysia ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver
-Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver Dear Lew, I found your message to be very inspiring. If only the world was populated with health professionals having your open minded integrity, we would all be the better for it. Kind regards Ivan. - Original Message - From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my Dear Yvonne, You wrote: I believe it's recognised form of treatment in India,but don't have anything in writing on this As Nature's assistant in our humble clinic for research and development, practising Complementary and Alternative Medicine, I can honestly reveal to you that there is not a single patient walking out of the premises without a bottle of colloidal silver [ 10ppm] as part of the treatment. If you have read what my contemporaries and peers who have used or done research on Colloidal Silver, and sharing their views and observations, it will be redundant for me to repeat what ,why and how I put it to good use. Nature has put us Malaysians on trial when the recently identified Nipah virus brought havoc to this multiracial country,forcing the Malaysian government to decimate pigs in order to staunch the onslaught of encephalitis caused by this rogue variant . The economic hardship caused to our people coupled with the mortality and morbidity left in its trial is heart- rending. During those anxious days, the medical profession in Malaysia was alerted . Antibiotics would not touch these critters. We counted our dead miserably and helplessly. The best brains from all parts of world came to our help. I could not dodge my patients' queries any longer. We brought out our anti-viral weapons and prepared for medical warfare. We assembled: 1. Zappers.10 units [from my friend Don USA] . 4 units [ SOTA, Canada ] 1 unit[Zapper HFA-4AVR USA] 2. Colloidal Silver Generators... 2 units [ Robey USA] 3 units [SOTA, Canada] My dental partners and I have decided to generate 20 gallons of 10ppm Colloidal Silver as a standby in our pow-wow for distribution as a last resort. The zappers were ready to shoot. The use of colloidal silver under the uncertain circumstances was passed by words of mouth from patients to their families. They came, but not in droves, and we were grateful for their faith in us. They bought some and I donated some. No body taught or persuaded me to use colloidal silver. It is my own choice to seek an alternative for anti-microbials. I have decided with a full conscience and I don't waver It strengthens my faith in its use as the feed back from my patients is always positive. I do not recommend colloidal silver to anybody. Its hallowed history speaks for itself. To-day 's mainstream medicine is governed by consent of opinions rather than hard scientific evidence. This is the reason why false and fraudulent teachings can survive even though the truth has been known for a long time. .Antibiotics severely increase the toxicity of the host organism,especially when highly halogenated antibiotics are used. The disappearance of a particular germ from the culture does not mean that the germ is dead; it only became invisible due to its transformation into an invisible form. That means ,that the host organism is now in a cancerous state. Dr. Karl Horst Poehlman, Australia If anyone of you loves Nature the way I do - the eccentric way. Go to an open field populated with trees. They are good etheric channels of communication with their leafy branches as antennae. Ask with your soft heart and NOT with your head, what is colloidal silver? Maybe,if you are still enough,you will hear an echo from the distant past ; very much like the ocean, the echo of a million seashells, COLLOIDAL SILVER, YOUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER. With regards Lew [Malaysia] ( This communication is merely of informative value and should not be taken as medical advice ) * Dear Ivan, Banyak terima kasih [ Thank you very much ]. Anything added to or subtracted from THE TRUTH is no more THE TRUTH.TRUTH is. When anything threatens the viability of a species in Nature,of plant, animal or human
Re: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver
Lew Fong How wrote: -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver Dear Lew, I found your message to be very inspiring. If only the world was populated with health professionals having your open minded integrity, we would all be the better for it. Kind regards Ivan. - Original Message - From: Lew Fong How fh...@tm.net.my Dear Yvonne, You wrote: I believe it's recognised form of treatment in India,but don't have anything in writing on this As Nature's assistant in our humble clinic for research and development, practising Complementary and Alternative Medicine, I can honestly reveal to you that there is not a single patient walking out of the premises without a bottle of colloidal silver [ 10ppm] as part of the treatment. If you have read what my contemporaries and peers who have used or done research on Colloidal Silver, and sharing their views and observations, it will be redundant for me to repeat what ,why and how I put it to good use. Nature has put us Malaysians on trial when the recently identified Nipah virus brought havoc to this multiracial country,forcing the Malaysian government to decimate pigs in order to staunch the onslaught of encephalitis caused by this rogue variant . The economic hardship caused to our people coupled with the mortality and morbidity left in its trial is heart- rending. During those anxious days, the medical profession in Malaysia was alerted . Antibiotics would not touch these critters. We counted our dead miserably and helplessly. The best brains from all parts of world came to our help. I could not dodge my patients' queries any longer. We brought out our anti-viral weapons and prepared for medical warfare. We assembled: 1. Zappers.10 units [from my friend Don USA] . 4 units [ SOTA, Canada ] 1 unit[Zapper HFA-4AVR USA] 2. Colloidal Silver Generators... 2 units [ Robey USA] 3 units [SOTA, Canada] My dental partners and I have decided to generate 20 gallons of 10ppm Colloidal Silver as a standby in our pow-wow for distribution as a last resort. The zappers were ready to shoot. The use of colloidal silver under the uncertain circumstances was passed by words of mouth from patients to their families. They came, but not in droves, and we were grateful for their faith in us. They bought some and I donated some. No body taught or persuaded me to use colloidal silver. It is my own choice to seek an alternative for anti-microbials. I have decided with a full conscience and I don't waver It strengthens my faith in its use as the feed back from my patients is always positive. I do not recommend colloidal silver to anybody. Its hallowed history speaks for itself. To-day 's mainstream medicine is governed by consent of opinions rather than hard scientific evidence. This is the reason why false and fraudulent teachings can survive even though the truth has been known for a long time. .Antibiotics severely increase the toxicity of the host organism,especially when highly halogenated antibiotics are used. The disappearance of a particular germ from the culture does not mean that the germ is dead; it only became invisible due to its transformation into an invisible form. That means ,that the host organism is now in a cancerous state. Dr. Karl Horst Poehlman, Australia If anyone of you loves Nature the way I do - the eccentric way. Go to an open field populated with trees. They are good etheric channels of communication with their leafy branches as antennae. Ask with your soft heart and NOT with your head, what is colloidal silver? Maybe,if you are still enough,you will hear an echo from the distant past ; very much like the ocean, the echo of a million seashells, COLLOIDAL SILVER, YOUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER. With regards Lew [Malaysia] ( This communication is merely of informative value and should not be taken as medical advice ) * Dear Ivan, Banyak terima kasih [ Thank you very much
Re: CSGENETIC FOODS
- Original Message - From: Cindy Powell suns...@networld.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:06 AM Subject: Re: CSGENETIC FOODS Yes, please send the article to me. Thankyou in advance, Cindy suns...@networld.com -Original Message- From: Terry Dickinson terry...@globalnet.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: CSGENETIC FOODS Good to see something on this subject - although it's strictly speaking OT it certainly is dealing with the main interest of this group -Health! GMOs (genetically modified organisms) have been on the US market for four years with barely a whisper in US press. The rest of the world hasn't been blindfolded however and there are groups in the US campaigning against it. Try http://www.rachel.org (sorry I can't put that there as a link but I haven't fathomed how to do that in Netscape 4.61 yet) and have a look at their current rachel#666 The Bad Seed. And I've got an excellent write-up on the subject which I'll gladly e-mail to anyone interested. Terry BILL D wrote: Hi list, do we really need this, idon`t think so.. The Clinton/Gore administration has been aggressively helping Monsanto promote ag-biotech, bypassing U.S. health and safety regulations to promote new, untested gene-altered products. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver
- Original Message - From: O2 Communication o2c...@global.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 8:36 PM Subject: CSLawsuit re. colloidal silver In haste - for the legal case against Colloidal Silver. I've not had a chance to wade through and find who exactly was looking for references. References I've come across on the Internet: By the way I found the whole article Silver Our Mightiest Germ Fighter on the Internet - I'll try and re-locate it! ECHO Newsletteer - A WORD WITH WALTER GROTZ : Report on Colloidal Silver - no date unfortunately - The Body Electric by Dr Robert O Becker ... states that silver does more than kill disease-causing organisms; it also causes major growth stimulation of injured tissues. Burn patients ... According to Dr Becker, all strains of pathogens resistant to other antibiotics are killed by the silver element. He even discovered that it may help change cancer cells back to normal! I believe it's a recognised form of treatment in India, but don't have anything in writing on this. Colloidal silver has proven particularly effective in cases of intestinal trouobles. Dr Henry Crooks found that silver in the colloidal state is highly germicidal, quite harmless to humans and absolutely nontoxic. Rather than in a chemical compound, silver, in the colloidal state, may be applied in a more concentrated form, with correspondingly better results. All fungus, virus, bacteria, streptococcus, staphylococcuis, and other pathogenic organisms are killed in three or four minutes. In fact there is no microbe known that is not killed by colloidal silver in six minutes or less, in a dilution of as little as five parts per million. There are no side effects whatsoever from high concentrations. Use of Colloid in health and Disease. quoted in Report: Colloidal Silver Health Consciousness, Vol 15, No. 4 OUR MIGHTIEST GERM FIGHTER - Science Digest, march 1978 UCLA Medical labs found it (silver) effective on every virus they tested it on - no date or name referenced here. Dr Henry Crooks (Use of Colloids in Health-Disease) found that silver iin the colloidal state is highly germicidal, quite harmless to humans and absolutely non-toxic. From his bacteriological experiments with silver he concluded, I know of no microbe that is not killed in laboratory experiments in six minutes. Dr Bjorn Nordenstrom of the Larolinska (Karolinska?) Institute, Sweden, has successfully used silver as a component in his cancer treatments for many years. EPA's Poison Control Centre reports no toxicity listing fror Colloidal Silver, considering it harmless in any concentration. Hope these help - I'm sure there are more I can scout through if needed. All obtained on the Internet. Please keep us posted on progress of the case - could be an important precedent. My very best wishes Sincerely, yvonne Dear Yvonne, You wrote: I believe it's recognised form of treatment in India,but don't have anything in writing on this As Nature's assistant in our humble clinic for research and development, practising Complementary and Alternative Medicine, I can honestly reveal to you that there is not a single patient walking out of the premises without a bottle of colloidal silver [ 10ppm] as part of the treatment. If you have read what my contemporaries and peers who have used or done research on Colloidal Silver, and sharing their views and observations, it will be redundant for me to repeat what ,why and how I put it to good use. Nature has put us Malaysians on trial when the recently identified Nipah virus brought havoc to this multiracial country,forcing the Malaysian government to decimate pigs in order to staunch the onslaught of encephalitis caused by this rogue variant . The economic hardship caused to our people coupled with the mortality and morbidity left in its trial is heart- rending. During those anxious days, the medical profession in Malaysia was alerted . Antibiotics would not touch these critters. We counted our dead miserably and helplessly. The best brains from all parts of world came to our help. I could not dodge my patients' queries any longer. We brought out our anti-viral weapons and prepared for medical warfare. We assembled: 1. Zappers.10 units [from my friend Don USA] . 4 units [ SOTA, Canada ] 1 unit[Zapper HFA-4AVR USA] 2. Colloidal Silver Generators... 2 units [ Robey USA] 3 units [SOTA, Canada] My dental partners and I have decided to generate 20 gallons of 10ppm Colloidal Silver as a standby in our pow-wow for distribution as a last resort. The zappers were ready to shoot. The use of colloidal silver under the
CSSubject: Magnet Therapy and Falun Gung
Sir/Madam, Please count me in if you are listing interested members. With regards Lew
Re: CSsprains Brooks B.
- Original Message - From: johnphil glades-eg...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:16 AM Subject: Re: CSsprains Brooks B. I would like to have seen your post last year on soft tissue trauma and the magnetic pulser, but I wasn't here then. Any chance of reposting it? I read the info on the mag. pulser on Beck's site but all it talked about was HIV and aids, so I decided it wasn't for me. Is there anywhere I could find out its other uses?John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsprains Brooks B.
- Original Message - From: johnphil glades-eg...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:16 AM Subject: Re: CSsprains Brooks B. I would like to have seen your post last year on soft tissue trauma and the magnetic pulser, but I wasn't here then. Any chance of reposting it? I read the info on the mag. pulser on Beck's site but all it talked about was HIV and aids, so I decided it wasn't for me. Is there anywhere I could find out its other uses?John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSubject: Postings on Silica/Calcium
Dear sir, I have saved those e-mail postings on Silica/Calcium a few weeks ago in my computer. Unfortunately , these educational postings were deleted when I sent my computer for upgrading. Because of their educational nature, I would be grateful if you would kindly download or email those Silica/Calcium postings to me. Thanking you in anticipation With regards Dr.FHLew [ Malaysia ]
Re: CSNEW pH list starting...
- Original Message - From: CARMEN SPENCE starwo...@primus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CSNEW pH list starting... Hi Vilik, I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, Thankyou \, Carmen - Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM Subject: CSNEW pH list starting... pH-bodybalance... A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will be starting in the fall. All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people welcome as well as total newbies. To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net Dear sir, Please sign me up for your New pH list. With regards, Lew (Malaysia) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net