Re: CS>Smart Meter and Chem Trail

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

i find it is interesting this is happening every day and no one really knows 
why, only theories...who is doing it and why? and why aren't the people being 
told?
  - Original Message - 
  From: David AuBuchon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Smart Meter and Chem Trail


  I was thinking about a way to revolt against chemtrails too

  People take photos of the chemtrails.  Then they map it on a map, and draw a 
line extending the path.  Then there is this website were everyone can post 
their lines, and you can see a map of off the lines put together.  Maybe some 
pattern will emerge showing the source of the airplanes.  Also could show where 
all the airports are, and see how implausible it is that they could be coming 
from those airports.  

  David

Re: CS>smart meter shielding

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

don't let them put one in your house
fight this people..

this stuff is bad news.

  - Original Message - 
  From: martsmai...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>smart meter shielding


  "martsmai...@aol.com" wrote: 

  stopsmartmeters. org/...any body know about these building electric smart 
meters

  >>response: 

  They're bad news. Kathy 

  http://sagereports.com/smart-meter-rf/?page_id=382
  Read the report 

  Scientists Urge Halt of Wireless Rollout and Call for New Safety
  Standards: Warning Issued on Risks to Children and Pregnant Women

  “Current US and ICNIRP standards for radiofrequency and microwave 
  radiation from wireless technologies are entirely inadequate.

  (Olle Johansson, professor, The Experimental Dermatology Unit, 
  Department of Neuroscience, Karolinska Institute, and The Royal 
  Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden)

  The combined effect of cell phones, cordless phones, cell towers, 
  WI-FI and wireless internet place billions of people around the world at
  risk for
  cancer, neurological disease and reproductive and 
  developmental impairments.

  Reflections can significantly increase localized RF levels. 

  Hondou et al (2006) establishes that power densities 1000 times to 2000 
  times higher than the power density predictions from computer modeling 
  (that does not account properly for reflections) can be found in daily 
  living situations. The RF hot 
  spots can significantly increase RF exposure--even above current public 
safety limits.
  “In the case of the eyes and testes, direct relaxation of power density 
limits is not permitted.”(p. 30)
  This leaves unanswered what instantaneous peak power is permissible
  from smart meters. 

  The level must be below 4000 uW/cm2. This report 
  shows clearly that smart meters can create instantaneous peak power 
  exposures where the face (eyes) and body (testes) are going to be in 
  close proximity to smart meter RF pulses. 

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  

  In a message dated 10/18/2011 3:23:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
asifnathe...@hotmail.com writes:
From what I understand, the network is a high fault tolerance 
interconnected "star" topology network. The antenna is omnidirectional because 
of this. It has a high poll rate plus it's event activated traffic. E.g. If 
someone goes to the toilet at night and uses the light. Or when high current 
draw. Devices are used such As irons, toasters and kettles. 
This would be used for analytics in a data warehouse by the utilities 
company. 
They also have zigbee radio connectivity so that new devices can provide 
detailed on their operation which would then be used by the utilities company.
I have done some work on this as I have worked in healthcare.





On 18 Oct 2011, at 19:16, Marshall  wrote:


  Electromagnetic radiation drops off to the square of the distance.  Thus 
if you are 10 feet from your meter, and 100 feet from the neighbor's, you will 
receive 100 times as much radiation from yours than your neighbors.  That 
assumes that the antenna is omnidirectional. If the antenna is directional, or 
they are using the wiring as the antenna, all bets are off.

  Marshall

  On 10/18/2011 1:59 PM, Shirley Reed wrote: 
Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing??   If the 
energy from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from 
everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible.  But it is quite possible 
that I don't understand the situation.  :)  If the energy goes out from 
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around?  Seems to me 
that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for protection.   
My house has one of these things.  Scary.   pj

Re: CS>smart meter shielding

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

I've heard from someone that said there is an option to people to have smart 
meters wired in using telephone wires...


has anyone heard of this?



- Original Message - 
From: "phoenix23002 tds.net" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: CS>smart meter shielding


Maybe that narrow time frame would be the perfect time to really wear
the tinfoil hats?  LOL

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Asif Nathekar
 wrote:
that would be a decent compromise, as the meter would buffer the traffic 
and

send when the next available opportunity presents itself

which of course would be when you uncover the shielding

perhaps the neighborhood could agree on a time to do this... e.g. 9pm-10pm
every night

bear in mind that a LOT of traffic would be fed during that time
intensively... rather than being drip fed throughout the day... there 
would

be maximum transmission during that time.. as it would be making up for
lost time!...

--
From: "David AuBuchon" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:58 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>smart meter shielding


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day. Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work. They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever 
wrote:


Shirley,

I have one too. If you live in California you can protest to the
DPUC on their website. If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
the
things. I complained yesterday. They say aluminum foil (double or
triple
thickness) will block the energy. Put sheets on the wall behind the
meter
between you and the meter. You can wrap the outside of the meter as
well...
just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it. If they cannot they
might send someone to your house. From what I understand all of the
meters
around you communicate with each other.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: CS>smart meter shielding
Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing?? If the energy
from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from
everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible. But it is quite
possible
that I don't understand the situation. :) If the energy goes out from
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around? Seems
to
me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
protection. My house has one of these things. Scary. pj




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Re: CS>smart meter shielding

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

that is funny, i like that...

but they might charge you everytime they have to come out


- Original Message - 
From: "David AuBuchon" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: CS>smart meter shielding


You know, a legal tactic to resist smart meters, would be to organize
an everyone block it out with aluminum foil (or whatever actually
works) day.  Yes, they will be able to tell you blocked it out.  But
hey, it is on your property.  And if everyone who does not like smart
meters does it, PG&E will be screwed having to come out and remove the
foil/whatever to so many houses.  Heck, it could be done everyday.

David

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:41 PM, ted mozell  wrote:

Heck wait till the neighbors see me out there wrapping the damn thing with
aluminum foil . I should probably put some on my head while I'm at it that
will give em something to talk about

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM, David AuBuchon 
wrote:


Maybe if a type of shielding could be devised that does not block its
operation 24 hours a day. Maybe for a minute or 2 here and there it
would work. They might think the meter is broken instead of
suspecting the resident.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bob Banever 
wrote:
> Shirley,
>
> I have one too. If you live in California you can protest to the
> DPUC on their website. If they recieve enough complaints they will ban
> the
> things. I complained yesterday. They say aluminum foil (double or
> triple
> thickness) will block the energy. Put sheets on the wall behind the
> meter
> between you and the meter. You can wrap the outside of the meter as
> well...
> just keep the front uncovered so Edison can read it. If they cannot
> they
> might send someone to your house. From what I understand all of the
> meters
> around you communicate with each other.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Shirley Reed
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
> Subject: CS>smart meter shielding
> Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing?? If the
> energy
> from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield 
> from

> everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible. But it is quite
> possible
> that I don't understand the situation. :) If the energy goes out from
> everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around? Seems
> to
> me that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for
> protection. My house has one of these things. Scary. pj
>


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Re: CS>smart meter

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

Hi elizabeth, i am interested in taking a look at the doughnut thing

can you  please forward to me

thanks

Mike
th...@telus.net
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Williams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>smart meter


  There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped 
things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, 
If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not 
affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge.

  Elizabeth Williams
  belzi...@hotmail.com

   

  > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500
  > Subject: Re: CS>smart meter
  > From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
  > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  > 
  > You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  > shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  > strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it.
  > 
  > Dan
  > 
  > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess  wrote:
  > > The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
  > > travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
  > > do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at
  > > this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
  > > Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
  > > am on their delay list.
  > >
  > > I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
  > > affects privacy issues. Jess
  > >
  > > From: Elizabeth Williams
  > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
  > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  > > Subject: RE: CS>smart meter
  > >
  > > I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in
  > > the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
  > > for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
  > > legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
  > > the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
  > > padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
  > > have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the 
city a
  > > letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.
  > >
  > > Elizabeth Williams
  > > belzi...@hotmail.com
  > >
  > >
  > > 
  > > From: jessi...@optonline.net
  > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  > > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
  > > Subject: CS>smart meter
  > >
  > > silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;
  > >
  > > is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This 
morning a
  > > utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart
  > > meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
  > > California.
  > >
  > > I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
  > > problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read
  > > that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
  > > anyone know about this subject?
  > >
  > > thanks, Jess
  > 
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Re: CS> Nebulizer Conclusion

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

you could put the rabbit in a shoe  box and fill it up with the steam and let 
it breat for 15 minutes that would work.. seems easy enough...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CS> Nebulizer Conclusion


  Interesting, how do you keep the rabbit's head close enough to the nebulizer?


  Alan


  On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, sol  wrote:

Well, I've been nebulizing my pet rabbit for many years off and on with a 
mix of CS-MSM-DMSO, and he's still alive and still cruising at eleven and a 
half years old though he has had chronic upper respiratory infection for his 
entire life.
Almost exactly one year ago, we increased the nebulizing from sporadic to 
twice a day, which allowed reduction of his bicillin injections from daily to 
one every 3 days, and also allowed a reduction in his daily baytril.
Given how fragile bunnies are, and the compromises this particular rabbit 
has in his respiratory system, I can't see how he could still be alive, let 
alone thriving as he is, if nebulizing CS were at all harmful. I would 
certainly never hesitate to nebulize straight CS or my CS-MSM-DMSO mix myself 
if I needed it.
sol


  -- 
  Alan Jones

  "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Flora effects...

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

oh lol  
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Flora effects...


Two full moons in the same month.
An infrequent occurrence

Chuck
My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming
anniversary.
She said, 'I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3
seconds.'

I bought her a scale.

And then the fight started...



On 9/14/2011 3:30:31 PM, Mike Winslow-Hansen (th...@telus.net) wrote:

what is a blue moon?



- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Flora effects...


> Mike, and all,
>  Several years ago, I drank between a pint (500 ml) and a quart a day
> for approximately 2.5 years give or take..I never experienced a

> wiping out of my intestinal flora..what I did experience
> intestinally was all beneficial.  I also got rid of severe lactose
> intolerance of at least a
decade's standing, and it has never come back,
> and which I believe was due to intestinal candida. I also was trying to
> get rid of what I thought was chronic EBV, and I don't
really know if I
> succeeded in that or not, as I never got tested for re-activation.
>  Oh, yeah, I also got "blue moons" which I still have some 5+ years
> later..to stop people wasting their time and effort, I have tried
> all measures for getting rid of them that have been suggested on this
> list over the intervening years, and they are still with me, though
> perhaps a little bit lighter.
> sol




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Re: CS>Flora effects...

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Flora effects...


Two full moons in the same month.
An infrequent occurrence

Chuck
My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming
anniversary.
She said, 'I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3
seconds.'

I bought her a scale.

And then the fight started...



On 9/14/2011 3:30:31 PM, Mike Winslow-Hansen (th...@telus.net) wrote:

what is a blue moon?



- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Flora effects...


> Mike, and all,
>  Several years ago, I drank between a pint (500 ml) and a quart a day
> for approximately 2.5 years give or take..I never experienced a

> wiping out of my intestinal flora..what I did experience
> intestinally was all beneficial.  I also got rid of severe lactose
> intolerance of at least a
decade's standing, and it has never come back,
> and which I believe was due to intestinal candida. I also was trying to
> get rid of what I thought was chronic EBV, and I don't
really know if I
> succeeded in that or not, as I never got tested for re-activation.
>  Oh, yeah, I also got "blue moons" which I still have some 5+ years
> later..to stop people wasting their time and effort, I have tried
> all measures for getting rid of them that have been suggested on this
> list over the intervening years, and they are still with me, though
> perhaps a little bit lighter.
> sol




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Re: CS>Flora effects...

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

what is a blue moon?



- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Flora effects...



Mike, and all,
 Several years ago, I drank between a pint (500 ml) and a quart a day 
for approximately 2.5 years give or take..I never experienced a 
wiping out of my intestinal flora..what I did experience 
intestinally was all beneficial.  I also got rid of severe lactose 
intolerance of at least a decade's standing, and it has never come back, 
and which I believe was due to intestinal candida. I also was trying to 
get rid of what I thought was chronic EBV, and I don't really know if I 
succeeded in that or not, as I never got tested for re-activation.
 Oh, yeah, I also got "blue moons" which I still have some 5+ years 
later..to stop people wasting their time and effort, I have tried 
all measures for getting rid of them that have been suggested on this 
list over the intervening years, and they are still with me, though 
perhaps a little bit lighter.

sol


M. G. Devour wrote:

Neville writes:
  

P.S. Regarding the 'friendly flora', I've consumed and administered on
occasion 500ml plus every day for several days and I, nor the person I
administered it to, have ever experienced any affects on that flora. 
Perhaps it depends on what solution is ingested?  Shop bought, or home

produced?  LVDC or HVAC produced? High ion content as opposed to high
particle content?  Plus the many other product variations available?

I think the key to your success is you didn't keep doing it for long 
enough. Believe me, when you manage to wipe your flora the effects are 
noticeable! I wager you can get by for "several days" but doing it for 
a few *weeks* would have a good chance of doing the deed.


Just for future reference! 

Peace,

Mike D.

  



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Re: CS>Possible colloidal silver injuries.

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

Yes this was most likely the scenario..





Original Message - 
  From: Marshall 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Possible colloidal silver injuries.


  So, he is taking CS which likely was keeping the prostrate in check, and the 
machine is taken away with the consequence the prostate antigen increased. They 
respond with 7 weeks of radiation destroying his immune system, and without a 
working immune system or CS he succumbed to something.  I would surmise that 
taking the silver away was the cause of his death personally.

  Marshall

  On 8/14/2011 8:06 PM, Alchemysa wrote: 
A while ago I bought the complete report described in the first link.


 "Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of 
colloidal silver". (Death of a 71 year old man. ) 

The full details are somewhat more complicated than the abstract suggests.  
As you will see, its barely credible the doctors can even blame colloidal 
silver for the initial seizure let alone his ultimate death. 

Heres the sequence of events

1. Man aged about 70 finds out he has prostate cancer.
2. Takes Bicalutamide (a prescribed drug with a few side effects) for 3 
months.
3. Following this he tried "various nutritional and vitamin supplements, 
homeopathic remedies such as PC-SPES and essiac tea, and colloidal silver". 
(It's claimed his CS machine produced 4 litres of 10ppm in 30 minutes). He 
drinks about one ounce a day for 4 months. (An ounce is a very small amount for 
many consumers.)
4. Wife and daughter confiscate his CS machine and give it to doctors. 
(Presumably this ended his CS intake)
5. His prostate antigen level increases so he ceases all non-conventional 
treatment and undergoes 7 weeks (35 cycles) of radiation therapy.
6. Seizures begin 1 month after radio therapy ceases. (This appears to be 
about 3 MONTHS AFTER CEASING CS INGESTION)
7. He goes into 'Myoclonic status epilepticus' (a constant seizure) so 
doctors put him into an INDUCED COMA and pump him with various drugs.
8. Patient deteriorates to a persistent vegetative condition.
9. Patient is shifted to his home town hospital where he dies of PNEUMONIA 
5.5 months after seizures begin. (The cause of death is absolutely clear in the 
report)
A quote from the report.."His (the patients) extensive investigations 
(tests), including cranial MRIs, somatosensory evoked potentials, routine and 
special CSF studies for viruses or other microorganisms, porphyria, Hashimoto 
thyroiditis, connective tissue disease, and anti-Hu antibodies, WERE NORMAL. 
Patient’s liver function was also NORMAL. Therefore, we HYPOTHESIZE the 
patient’s condition was caused by silver toxicity.

In other words... "We checked everything and the only trace of anything we 
could find was silver, so we are HYPOTHESIZING the silver (that he stopped 
taking 3 MONTHS before the seizures!) must have done it! Sorry Mum and 
Daughter, its not our fault. He had a seizure because of that darned silver!" 
If I was a cynic I could suggest conventional medicine killed him, and 
colloidal silver became a convenient scapegoat.




David (The other one).









  From: David AuBuchon 
  Date: 15 August 2011 6:02:45 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?




  Sorry, those are not the links...not sure how I did that.  Here they are:


  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15111684?dopt=Citation
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729504


  ~David

Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

do these so called people even exist? or are these phantom names cooked up 
to cook a story? that might be a good place to research...



- Original Message - 
From: "David AuBuchon" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter


That is the obvious most likely scenario, but I'm just trying to do
due diligence and see if anyone has access to the study text to
confirm.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mike Winslow-Hansen  
wrote:
do we know if these 2 so called injuries were with the user using 
colloidal

silver made properly? do we even really know they were injured at all from
the colloidal silver? I doubt they were if they were using properly made
CS...


- Original Message - From: "David AuBuchon"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter 
shutter



Dude, I'm 100% with you, don't worry. I just don't want to tell
people there has never been an injury if it turns out there might have
been 1 or 2. It is still inconsequential, but I want to be completely
honest and accurate.

~David

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:


Wow 2 injuries out of Millions of Users? Guess I don't want to ride in a
car anymore? I see wreck reports every day in the newspaper. But I still
Drive my car. I also take my Daily dose of Colloidal Silver ! Do not 
Force

a CS scare on this site,, ... you will loose.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:30 PM
Subject: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?

Sloan kettering cites two documented injuries to "colloidal silver".
I cannot find that the full texts for free anywhere. Is anyone able
to confirm that these were not related to properly made EIS?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation

Thanks,
~David


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Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

do we know if these 2 so called injuries were with the user using colloidal 
silver made properly?  do we even really know they were injured at all from 
the colloidal silver?  I doubt they were if they were using properly made 
CS...



- Original Message - 
From: "David AuBuchon" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter


Dude, I'm 100% with you, don't worry.  I just don't want to tell
people there has never been an injury if it turns out there might have
been 1 or 2.  It is still inconsequential, but I want to be completely
honest and accurate.

~David

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:

Wow 2 injuries out of Millions of Users? Guess I don't want to ride in a
car anymore? I see wreck reports every day in the newspaper. But I still
Drive my car. I also take my Daily dose of Colloidal Silver ! Do not Force
a CS scare on this site,, ... you will loose.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:30 PM
Subject: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?

Sloan kettering cites two documented injuries to "colloidal silver".
I cannot find that the full texts for free anywhere. Is anyone able
to confirm that these were not related to properly made EIS?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation

Thanks,
~David


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Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

 I've used silver for over 12 years, and i would say I love it I know there 
is people paid to do the fear mongering out there ,sad that most people are 
gullible enough to believe them because they are missing out on good health 
with CS... 
I know CS has to be made properly and if it is don't worry about it..enjoy the 
health benefits...
 



- Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries? Wow (2) Shutter shutter


  Wow 2 injuries out of Millions of Users?  Guess I don't want to ride in a car 
anymore? I see wreck reports every day in the newspaper.  But I still Drive my 
car.  I also take my Daily dose of Colloidal Silver !  Do not Force a CS scare 
on this site,, ... you will loose.

  Tel Tofflemire
  Dewey, AZ.


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  From: David AuBuchon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:30 PM
  Subject: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?

  Sloan kettering cites two documented injuries to "colloidal silver".
  I cannot find that the full texts for free anywhere.  Is anyone able
  to confirm that these were not related to properly made EIS?

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation

  Thanks,
  ~David


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Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

yes there is people paid to stop a good thingwoe to them...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?


  I don't know about the others, but Fung is an FDA anti-silver hit-man  I have 
read one of his reports and it is misleading and deceptive in the manner the 
data is manipulated and presented.  


  On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marshall  wrote:

These abstracts look suspicious.  They claim high levels of silver in the 
body, but that is hardly even possible with CS which is going to be 20 ppm or 
less.  I suspect that he was not taking colloidal silver at all, but some 
silver compound, which they are claiming is colloidal silver.

Marshall


On 8/14/2011 4:32 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

  Sorry, those are not the links...not sure how I did that.  Here they are:

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15111684?dopt=Citation
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19729504

  ~David

  On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, David AuBuchon
wrote:

Sloan kettering cites two documented injuries to "colloidal silver".
I cannot find that the full texts for free anywhere.  Is anyone able
to confirm that these were not related to properly made EIS?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation

Thanks,
~David


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Re: CS>newbie

[Mike Winslow-Hansen]

have you tried www.silvergen.com 

- Original Message - 
From: "phoenix23002 tds.net" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:37 PM
Subject: CS>newbie



Hi, everyone.   I am brand new to this site.  I have been dx with
breast cancer and want to use colloidal silver with my protocol.  I
have used silver, off & on for years but I can't afford the 'good
stuff' in the quantities I will need to fight this beast.  So...
thought I would look into making my own.  I am not too mechanical or
electrical-minded and would like to know if there are good relatively
inexpensive units that can be purchased out there.  Also, a good
reputable source for the silver wire.  I just purchased a book
explaining how to build one of these machines.. lost me after the
alligator clips..lol.  What is the best way to store the silver after
mfg?  Thank you all for any info you care to share.   Lola


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