Re: CS>Important -- FMD Cure??
Well I was going to wait to see if it happened again and was repetable but since your talking about this I'll throw in my story. I wrote to the list a while ago when people were thinking about giving CS to animals for FMD thinking that someone should stop them. You all were great about telling me just what it might do and it just happened at the right time. We just had a little goat kid who was a month old. He began to have scours and I didn't have any antibiotics for him. In two days it was just colored water and I had to do something so I gave him about 2 ounces of CS in his milk. He was perfectly fine again that afternoon. I was a little worried about his tummy but thats been a week ago and he eats even better than before and is the healthiest kid we have ever had. Nancy Steele -Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: CS>Important -- FMD Cure?? >Hi Tracy, > >On Fri, 25 May 2001 09:32:33 +1200, "Nick Grant" >wrote: > >>We have our own dairy cow and other animals which we like to keep >>organic ie without chemicals or antibiotics. When our cow got sick we >>give it colloidal silver instead of antibiotic and saw an amazingly >>fast recovery in just a day or two. That way we can still drink the >>milk. (You can't drink the milk of a cow on antibiotics.) It's the >>best thing since sliced bread for us who don't like doctors and can't >>afford them anyway. Hooray for Colloidal Silver!!! >>Deborah Ellenwood > >Whoa!!! CS for a cow?? And it doesn't upset their digestive system? > >Maybe our theories about giving CS to ruminants isn't quite correct. >If so, then CS could be a cure for hoof and mouth disease. > >(I know this is a testimonial from Bill Fernald's site at >www.utopiasilver.com I wonder if we can verify the story) > >-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Hoof and Mouth
Thank you for your quick reply and for clearing that up. I really appreciate it Nancy -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:07 AM Subject: Re: CS>Hoof and Mouth >Nancy Steele wrote: > >> Hey guys how about the fact that you cant give CS to animals with >> more than one stomach. Has there been more research done that shows >> that you can do that? I havent checked the list for a while and I was >> on another forum and saw people suggesting that they check here to see >> if CS wouldn't help their cows. Other people were asking about >> doseages. I think this list is pretty respected and I know you guys >> aren't farmers but especially when Marshall and Bob Berger say to do >> it lots of people listen. > >Theoretically it is a problem, and our web site warns against it. >Practically however, I have had several people get back to me with >information that they have given CS to cows with very good results. > >This is what we know. > >1. Giving CS to (at least some) insects will cause them to starve due to >killing the bacteria in their digestive systems. Kills bees and >termites at a minimum. > >2. Giving CS to mammals normally causes no problems, ie. cats, dogs, >people. In Vitro studies have shown that CS is ineffective in solid >materials (not to be confused with topical use where it is effective), >thus is ineffective in the intestines, unless one has dysentery. > >Why it is a problem for insects is not known, but I can think of several >possibilities. First their intestines appear to contain liquid instead >of solids, thus the effectiveness is not decreased. Or there is so >little material in the intestines, and they tend to drink so much CS, >that the lack of effectiveness is not enough to prevent killing the >bacteria anyway. Or the bacteria that they have in their intestines is >especially susceptible to silver. > >3. Cows and other animals have more than one stomach. The first stomach >is basically a fermentation pot, in which bacteria and fungi break down >cellulose so that the later stomach(s) can digest the grass/hay/leaves. > >4. If the bacteria are killed, then fermentation can not take place, the >cellulose cannot be digested, and passes through as roughage. > >Now the question is how can one give CS to cows without disrupting the >digestion process in the first stomach. > >There are several possibilities. > >1. The first stomach contains material in a sludge which decreases the >effectiveness sufficiently that fermentation can still take place. (I >have no data on this, just a thought) > >2. When a cow drinks water, it is passed directly to the second stomach, >bypassing the first stomach. (once again just conjecture). > >3. If the CS is given at times other than when feeding, the CS will be >gone before feeding. > >4. The replication rate of the bacteria is so high, that it overwhelms >the kill rate of the CS, so there is no negative effect. This one will >depend on the ppm of the CS. > >So, we have several different avenues that can be explored for giving CS >to cows. Determining if digestion is being impacted adversely should be >easily determined by studying the cow's patties. If the grass is not >being broken down the paddies should contain lots of undigested grass. > >1. If number one is correct, then there is no problem, provided that the >ppm of the CS is not too high. >2. If number two is correct, then there is no problem, with any ppm of >CS. >3. If we use the third method, then even if one and two are incorrect, >we should still be able to give CS between meals. (yeh, I know a grazing >cow eats almost continually, so it may have to be hay fed). >4. If we use the fourth method, then one would need to use a CS which >does not affect the digestion. This can be determined by increasing the >ppm of the CS and observing the patties and determining at what point >some digestive distress is encountered. > >So at the very least, I believe some experimentation should be done. >Fortunately one should be able to determine distress in cows long before >they starve to death, and replenishing the bacteria in the first stomach >should not be a problem since they eat grass that is unwashed and have >had patties on and around it. > >Marshall > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>Hoof and Mouth
Hey guys how about the fact that you cant give CS to animals with more than one stomach. Has there been more research done that shows that you can do that? I havent checked the list for a while and I was on another forum and saw people suggesting that they check here to see if CS wouldn't help their cows. Other people were asking about doseages. I think this list is pretty respected and I know you guys aren't farmers but especially when Marshall and Bob Berger say to do it lots of people listen.
CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V101 #438
Hey you guys what about the fact that you cant give CS orally to animals with more than one stomach or bees? Nancy -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V101 #438 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>120VAC to 12VDC Converter
Dear Bob Thanks for your reply. Actually I got a little 1 1/2 volt motor from Radio Shack to stir with but can't figure out how to slow it down. A resister I'm sure but what size? Also I want to use the current regulator you recommended but haven't found it yet. When I do do I still need resistors? Thanks again for all your help. Nancy -Original Message- From: Robert L. Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>120VAC to 12VDC Converter Nancy; If you were happy with the 1000 ohms with 9 volts then add two more for 3000 ohms and you are back to where you started. but you should realy add stirring for a better CS> "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>120VAC to 12VDC Converter
Hi all I just got a 30v converter from Radio Shack. I've been using a nine volt with a 1000ohm resister. My question is what kind of resister do I need to use with this to make sure my current isn't too high. Thanks for all your help. Nancy -Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>120VAC to 12VDC Converter On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:07:33 -0500, "V. Richter" wrote: >I'm new to thinking about making my own CS. So far I've been buying it >locally. My wife has used it to get off the antibiotics for recurring >bladder infections. Since it seems CS will be a part of our arsenal against >poor health as long as we're blessed with being on this earth, I want to >learn how to make it easily and economically. > >First Question: I have a 120VAC to 12VDC Converter for troubleshooting car >stereo equipment on the workbench. Will this make effective CS, or do I >need to get another voltage source? The 12 VDC power source will work fine -- but it's not the best. A 30 volt source is better, and the switchable wallwart from Radio Shack at 30 and 13.5 volts is even better. However, if you have the money ($100-$200 range), buy a good, prebuilt home unit. The good ones are constant current with auto-shutoff (they vary the voltage depending on how conductive the water is -- this produces consistant strength with small silver particles). The lower cost ones are constant voltage. There are units that can run off batteries, wallwart and solar cells. SilverGen, SilverPuppy and Elixa are good places to look on the WWW. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>zappers
Ivan If I wanted to run a Clark zapper on 12 volt would I have to do something special so as not to burn anything up or ruin it or the effect in some way, or just hook it up straight into 12 volt? Thanks Nancy -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>zappers Hi Kim, The best 'zappers' available (IMO) can be found here. http://www.annexmfg.com/ These are very professional units, operating at about 13V and incorporate the 'BioWave' technology which keeps the square wave square when connected to the body. I am using this in my own zappers with the owners permission This site is owned by one of the list members who may make himself known or not. For those with a technical ability, the circuit posted by Bill Biagioli is very good, if a bit difficult to implement. If one wanted to improve the basic Clarke zapper, then using a 12V supply is the way to go...13.5V if you can, may need to ensure the 555 timer is not the CMOS type. I sent 15V through mine...boy was that a wake up call. Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>HERX
Hi Ivan Thanks for your response. I was especially interested that you asked about a fever. Yes he did have one and that too is unusual. So just a couple more quick questions if you have time. What would you think a fever at that point might mean? Also if I stop the silver altogether how long would you expect this sickness/reaction to last? Again thanks I know you must be very busy. I do appreciate it. Nancy -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 4:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>HERX Yes Nancy, It would be wise to back off a bit and see whether the symptoms recede, and then find a level of ingestion that he finds comfortable. Sounds like an immune response or Herx reaction and the level that he took might have induced leucocytosis, a high production of white blood cells and attendant discomfort... did his temp rise? I should increase water intake. Ivan - Original Message - From: "Nancy Steele" To: ; Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2000 04:01 Subject: CS>HERX > > Hi everyone I was wondering if someone could tell me a little about herx > reactions. My husband hasn't been well for several years. He has times > with extreme headaches weakness imbalance nerve problems aches and a variety > of others. We have been to GPs and specialists. Apparently he is in > perfect health. So I decided to try CS to see if maybe there might be > something like lyme or candida operating here. We have used it for about a > year with good results for almost everything. This time however I gave him > one pint half in the morning and half at night for two days. The next day > he took one cup in the morning and by afternoon he was very ill aches very > bad headache eyes burned when light hit them (when he opened them) weak and > a runny nose. Since he feels bad sometimes anyway its hard for me to tell > but I keep thinking how could he have a runny nose with all that silver. > That is very unusual. Anyway sorry this is so long but I am planning not to > give him any silver for a while and see if his system gets back to normal > and try again to check it out. Just wondered if any of you who know of or > have experienced this think this might be a good plan. Any ideas would be > very welcome. Thanks so much for all the information through the years > Nancy > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
CS>HERX
Hi everyone I was wondering if someone could tell me a little about herx reactions. My husband hasn't been well for several years. He has times with extreme headaches weakness imbalance nerve problems aches and a variety of others. We have been to GPs and specialists. Apparently he is in perfect health. So I decided to try CS to see if maybe there might be something like lyme or candida operating here. We have used it for about a year with good results for almost everything. This time however I gave him one pint half in the morning and half at night for two days. The next day he took one cup in the morning and by afternoon he was very ill aches very bad headache eyes burned when light hit them (when he opened them) weak and a runny nose. Since he feels bad sometimes anyway its hard for me to tell but I keep thinking how could he have a runny nose with all that silver. That is very unusual. Anyway sorry this is so long but I am planning not to give him any silver for a while and see if his system gets back to normal and try again to check it out. Just wondered if any of you who know of or have experienced this think this might be a good plan. Any ideas would be very welcome. Thanks so much for all the information through the years Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Potassium Iodine
Thanks to all for the confirmation that making your own Potassium Iodine is a bad idea. To explain just a little. It came from an article that I had thought was good because I thought I knew who the author was. I hadn't looked into it a lot since I was so busy with other research. My origional thought was that it would be good for many people who wouldn't get ready for an emergency beforhand since we live in a very rural farming type community. Anyway I could have made a very bad mistake that would have been hard to live with by giving them bad advice and I just want you all to know that I'm grateful for your input. Thanks Nancy
CS>OT potassium iodide
Hello everyone, I'm sorry I know this is really off topic but I don't know anyone else to ask. Does anyone know if there would be any validity to this formula for turning tincture of iodine into potassium iodide? One pint of tincture of iodine mixed with water to make five quarts. Add 5 tsp of bicarbonate of soda and mix until clear. Adult dose for radiation 10cc per day for 14 days down to 5cc after that. Again sorry but I was kind of counting on this to work and now I'm not sure. Thanks to everyone I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas. Nancy
CS>Re particle size/Jeff
It does take a long time to make CS at 12volts, about 3 to 4 hours. I actually have another solar panel to hook up for 30volts.(they're really supposed to put out 15volts) or there about but I worried about the amps. I use plain very hot water with a little of the old batch in it as a starter. I make it in a quart jar with the electrodes about 1 inch apart. I get very little crud on my electrodes and no "strings" of that black stuff but I clean them about every 20 minutes after it starts to work. Hope this is helpful. Nancy
CS>Particle size
I am making CS with a solar battery charger. It is 12 volts and 125mA. My silver is light to medium yellow gold and very clear. It doesn't seem to precipitate at all and there are no particles that you can see. I want to be able to use a nebulizer and I am concerned about the difference between my 125mA and Brook's 12.5MA big difference in numbers and I'm not sure about the terms mA and MA. Sure hope there is some. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
CS>airbrush nebulizer
Can anyone tell me where I can find instructions and a protocol for the airbrush nebulizer? I looked in the archives but it doesn't seem to be readable there. Thank you so much for your help.
CS>anthrax
I am interested in opinions about whether or not it would be workable (if a person didn't have a vaporizer) to soak a cotton dust mask in CS and let it dry several times. It seems as though this would imbed silver in the cotton and would be good for airborne problems. Thanks for your ideas.
