CS>colloidal silver maker
Looking for an inexpensive, reliable colloidal silver maker. Any recommendations or suggestions? Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and antibiotics
If one is already taking an antibiotic -- e.g. clindamycin -- is it safe to also take colloidal silver at times when not taking the antibiotic? Thanks for your help. Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Off topic: biopsies
I have heard that a biopsy will cause the cancer fluids (cells) to spread throughout the body. Is this true? If a biopsy consists of excising a small piece of tissue from the affected area, how can this cause the spread of cancer fluids (cells). I also understand that a dark field microscopic examination of the blood can determine if their are cancer cells in the blood. Is this as reliable -- or more reliable -- than a biopsy? Are their other methods that can give reliable determination of the presence of cancer cells in the body? Thanks for your help. Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS nasal spray
In a message dated 98-05-06 10:19:38 EDT, you write: << Has anyone out there used CS as a nasal spray for any length of time? (To be truthful, the account of the "blue lady" has caused me to question the wisdom of using the nasal spray approach). >> My family and I have used CS nasal spray for about a year and a half. If the CS is a 25 ppm batch, we usually fill the spray bottle half with the CS and half with distilled water. We have found that it certainly helps alleviate sinus infections. Good luck. H. Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
etherized silver
Members of this list should be interested in reading about "etherized silver in harmonically-balanced water." They can do so at: http://www.svpvril.com/OSW.html";>Sympathetic Vibratory Physics - Our Silver Wo... URL: http://www.svpvril.com/OSW.html Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
TDS-1 measurement
On March 23, 1998, I made some colloidal silver solution using exactly the same procedure that I had previously used to make colloidal silver solution in January, 1998. I had samples of the Jan.98 solution tested for ppm at a local laboratory. The results showed 25 to 27 ppm. On March 31, 1998, I used the TDS-1 to test my tap water and it showed 124 ppm. I then used the TDS-1 to test the colloidal silver solution made on March 23, 1998. That test showed 27 ppm. H. Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: What about colloidal gold?
In a message dated 98-03-18 00:33:41 EST, you write: << Thoughts, all? >> I would like to see an initial discussion of colloidal gold on this list. Afterwards, as you suggest, a separate list might be appropriate, depending upon what evolves from the initial discussions. Regards to all Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Fwd: Colloidal solution testing
It appears that the right-hand column did not post correctly; so I am reposting the part that includes the right-hand column and hope that it comes through okay. In a message dated 98-02-21 12:36:44 EST, ringda...@aol.com writes: << Following are the results of colloidal silver solution preparation made on January 26, 1998: SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE A2X B1Y C3Z 1. ounces of boiled,distilled water: 8 6 6 2. ounces of starter solution: 8 2 2 3. duration of process (minutes): 18 10 11 4. ambient (room) temp in degrees Fahrenheit: 77 77 77 5. weather:sunnysunny sunny 6. electrode separation (inches): 3/8 1/2 3/8 7. temperature in degrees Fahrenheit of water that bottle is placed in:170170 172 8. approx. time of day (p.m.)2:30 3:00 3:30 9. number of times electrodes cleaned: 31 2 10. color of final solution: golden, golden, golden lightmedium medium 11. ppm as measured by Aqualab, Tucson, AZ: 25 34 36 Notes: a. Sample A2X was the starter solution. b. The lower half of the bottle containing the colloidal silver solution was placed in a pan of heated water. The water was heated over a natural gas burner. c. The electrodes (99.99% pure) used were those supplied by Action Electronics. d. The electrodes were approxately 90% covered by the colloidal silver solution. e. Electrode separation was measured at the end of the electrodes. The electrode separation at the beginning was about 1/8 inches. Hope that the above information helps in our research. >> --- Begin Message --- Following are the results of colloidal silver solution preparation made on January 26, 1998: SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE A2X B1Y C3Z 1. ounces of boiled,distilled water: 8 6 6 2. ounces of starter solution: 8 2 2 3. duration of process (minutes):18 10 11 4. ambient (room) temp in degrees Fahrenheit: 77 77 77 5. weather:sunny sunny sunny 6. electrode separation (inches): 3/8 1/2 3/8 7. temperature in degrees Fahrenheit of water that bottle is placed in:170 170 172 8. approx. time of day (p.m.)2:30 3:003:30 9. number of times electrodes cleaned: 3 1 2 10. color of final solution: golden, golden, golden, lightmedium medium 11. ppm as measured by Aqualab, Tucson, AZ: 2534 36 Notes: a. Sample A2X was the starter solution. b. The lower half of the bottle containing the colloidal silver solution was placed in a pan of heated water. The water was heated over a natural gas burner. c. The electrodes (99.99% pure) used were those supplied by Action Electronics. d. The electrodes were approxately 90% covered by the colloidal silver solution. e. Electrode separation was measured at the end of the electrodes. The electrode separation at the beginning was about 1/8 inches. Hope that the above information helps in our research. Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Colloidal solution testing
Following are the results of colloidal silver solution preparation made on January 26, 1998: SAMPLE SAMPLE SAMPLE A2X B1Y C3Z 1. ounces of boiled,distilled water: 8 6 6 2. ounces of starter solution: 8 2 2 3. duration of process (minutes):18 10 11 4. ambient (room) temp in degrees Fahrenheit: 77 77 77 5. weather:sunny sunny sunny 6. electrode separation (inches): 3/8 1/2 3/8 7. temperature in degrees Fahrenheit of water that bottle is placed in:170 170 172 8. approx. time of day (p.m.)2:30 3:003:30 9. number of times electrodes cleaned: 3 1 2 10. color of final solution: golden, golden, golden, lightmedium medium 11. ppm as measured by Aqualab, Tucson, AZ: 2534 36 Notes: a. Sample A2X was the starter solution. b. The lower half of the bottle containing the colloidal silver solution was placed in a pan of heated water. The water was heated over a natural gas burner. c. The electrodes (99.99% pure) used were those supplied by Action Electronics. d. The electrodes were approxately 90% covered by the colloidal silver solution. e. Electrode separation was measured at the end of the electrodes. The electrode separation at the beginning was about 1/8 inches. Hope that the above information helps in our research. Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
test
This is a test to see if I am still subscribed to the silver-list. Haven't received any postings from that list for three days. Harry Davis
Fwd: Temp of water
In a message dated 98-02-05 18:27:16 EST, mariedo...@worldnet.att.net writes: << Just a quick question. When I boiled my water the last time I had a temp reading of 130 degrees. I then put the container onto a hot plate. The process would not start. I then proceeded to let the water cool to 120 degrees, the process finally started. With the initial temp of 130 I waited for about 45 minutes and got nothing. Has this happened to anyone else? Why does temp have such a bearing on the outcome of the product. T >> After bringing the distilled water to a boil, I immediately set the container (glass jar containing the boiled distilled water) in a pan containing water at 170 degrees. Monitoring the water temperature with a thermometer, I held the water (in the pan) at 165 to 170 degrees throughout the process. I made a starter solution then the other solutions. The color of the colloidal silver water varied from a light amber/gold to a medium amber/gold. I sent three samples to a testing lab for ppm measurements and should have the results within the next few days -- and will post them on this list Harry Davis --- Begin Message --- To All, Just a quick question. When I boiled my water the last time I had a temp reading of 130 degrees. I then put the container onto a hot plate. The process would not start. I then proceeded to let the water cool to 120 degrees, the process finally started. With the initial temp of 130 I waited for about 45 minutes and got nothing. Has this happened to anyone else? Why does temp have such a bearing on the outcome of the product. Thanks, Donna Earnest --- End Message ---
Fwd: Cure For Lyme!
In a message dated 98-01-22 06:04:31 EST, m...@flash.net writes:
<< Hi List
Is anyone interested in knowing how to get rid of the herxheimer
reaction?
>>
Yes. How does one get rid of the herxheimer reaction?
<>
My son has been diagnosed with MS for some 18 years. Can you give more
details of Dr. Farber's treatment for his MS?
Thank you for your help.
May the Light continue to guide and protect you and your family.
Harry Davis
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CHawtho111 wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am writing to tell all of you who suffer from Lyme disease that you
> should have complete confidence in the CS for the treatment of Lyme disease.
> If the CS is taken in large enough doses and long enough the disease will be
> irradicated from your body.
>
> The process of getting well is not pleasant and at times quite
> frightening. I experienced stiff sore joints, popping of the hips and
> knees,nausea, depression, paranoia and at times could hardly remember my own
> name I was so ill. You literally have to get in bed and just rest. At times
I
> would have strange and unusual pains, jaw, teeth, one night it felt like
> someone was putting an ice pick through the left side of my head. I knew of
> course that all these strange aches and pains were due to the Lyme being
> killed off.
>
>The Herxheimer reaction is our only barometer of how the CS is working,
> along with all the other symptoms. The awful thing about this disease is you
> get just as sick or sicker while getting well as you do getting sicker. But
> you should feel worse than ever when you first start the CS.
>
>The dosing and length of treatment are imperative to achieve complete
> wellness. The doses should be increased at regular intervals about every ten
> days. I will post the dosing information below, please use it this is what
> made the difference in my treatment.
>
>I know can do what ever I want, I have even started exercising on my
stair
> stepper three times a day. Folks this works it works, bottoms up.
>
> Dosage Must Coincide
> "With Body Weight"
>
> The initial 1st (first) week dosage in all cases should only be 1/2 (one-
half)
> teaspoon only once (1) a day in the morning as the Colloidal Silver at 30
PPM
> is so effective that if you start the therapeutic dosage of more than 1/2
> (one-half) teaspoon per I (one) day you may put yourself into bed with a
> severe Herxheimer or Candida reaction from all the dead bacteria piling up
> waiting to be expelled from your bloodstream.
>
> Thereafter your dosage of Colloidal Silver "absolutely must" correspond to
> your body weight for the protocol to be successful as Colloidal Silver is
> allopathic-the more you take the better it works and conversely the less you
> take for your body weight the less it will be able to do for you. Again: The
> dosage can be more but not less than that required for your body weight for
it
> to work and for this protocol to he successful.
>
> The dosage baseline of 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.) morning immediately upon
> arising I (one) hour before breakfast, and 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.)
evening
> 2 (two) hours after supper, is based on an average infection for a 120 (one
> hundred and twenty) pound individual.
>
> The dosage also must be tailored to the severity of the infection, which
means
> you must increase the dosage (after you have adjusted the initial dosage to
> your weight), if you have had a chronic, severe, or long-term infection.
>
> It is crucial that:
>
> Your starting-beginning baseline dosage ("before" you tailor dosage to your
> symptoms) must correspond to your body weight. This means the baseline
dosage
> must be increased a minimum of I (one) teaspoon (5 ml.) every time you take
a
> dosage, to accommodate every 30 (thirty) pound increment in body weight.
>
> For example: A 210 lb. individual must increase their baseline dosage to 7
> (seven) teaspoons = (35 ml.) in the morning and 7 (seven) teaspoons (35 ml.)
> in the evening.
>
> The following outline is the basic initial dosage reference:
>
> 120 lb. man, woman or child 4 (four) tsps. morning and 4 (four) tsps.
> evening.
> 150 lb. II II = 5 (five) tsps. morning and
5 (five) tsps. evening.
> 180 lb. = 6 (six) tsps. morning and
6 (six) tsps. evening.
> 210 lb. = 7 (seven) tsps. morning and 7 (seven)
tsps. evening.
> Just to confirm:
>
> A 60 (seventy) lb. child would respectively require a dosage of 2 (two)
> teaspoons [10 (ten) ml.] in the morning and 2 (two) teaspoons [10 (ten) ml.]
> in the evening.
>
> Respective dosage you then stay at that dosage until you ameliorate all of
> your symptoms If because of the severity or the chronic
Fwd: Cure For Lyme! How about multiple sclerosis?
In a message dated 98-01-19 21:01:25 EST, syen...@clearwater.net writes: << I don't know about the evidence, perhaps someone else will. I have found this with MS. The more you relieve your immune system of adjuvancy (that is the things that it reacts to and tries to fix,) the better it functions. I believe in my case that I am really a lot better when I am adequately treated for opportunistic organisms. Among these are fungus and parasites as well as overgrowth of bacteria from a paralyzed gut. >> Do you take supplements that are designed to enhance immune system function so that the immune system can react better to "adjuvancy?" << I can see better and walk better and feel things better with this regimen which includes taking CS on a continuig basis, first to be therapeutic and then to maintain. Hope this helps Susan >> From the attachment you sent regarding the use of CS for the treatment of Lyme disease, I assume that you have followed -- and are still following -- that protocol to help alleviate symptoms of MS. Am I correct? If so, did you experience any Herxheimer reactions. Have you tried the "beesting therapy?" My son (age 47) has been diagnosed with MS for some 18 years. He used the beesting therapy for some 9 months and within the first month or two, the shaking or trembling of his hands had lessened considerably. He stopped that therapy for several weeks but I think he now plans to continue it on a once a week basis; and at the same time, take CS along with some form of "zapper" electronic pulse therapy. His main problem is with his legs. He was walking with a cane; but after a bout with the flu a few weeks ago, his legs feel very weak and he has to use a walker. Thank you for your message, Susan. If you want any additional information about my son's treatment protocol, just let me know. Take care. Harry Davis --- Begin Message --- Harry Davis wrote: > >Is there any evidence available that CS taken in small or large doses will >alleviate any or all symptoms of multiple sclerosis? xxx Harry I don't know about the evidence, perhaps someone else will. I have found this with MS. The more you relieve your immune system of adjuvancy (that is the things that it reacts to and tries to fix,) the better it functions. I believe in my case that I am really a lot better when I am adequately treated for opportunistic organisms. Among these are fungus and parasites as well as overgrowth of bacteria from a paralyzed gut. Mine is like a paraplegic though I still can walk. I also completely changed my environment--no toxic stuff including perfumed soap and washing powder, dish soap, no cleaners, Hepa filters and ozone from ultaviolet light and removal of dust and mites. I do a rotating diet and only eat once a day because it takes too much energy to digest anymore than that. I drink gallons of good water when I can. Stay away from all petroleum products and so forth. My clothing is cotton or silk. My sheets are cotton flannel and there isn't anything in my bedroom except a metal bed and wooden chest. Doors to closet are closed and most outdoor things don''t go into my room. No books etc. The idea here is to have a place at least eight hours a day where there is nothing for your body to do but sleep, nothing to react to. I can see better and walk better and feel things better with this regimen which includes taking CS on a continuig basis, first to be therapeutic and then to maintain. Hope this helps Susan >Hi All, > >I am writing to tell all of you who suffer from Lyme disease that you >should have complete confidence in the CS for the treatment of Lyme disease. >If the CS is taken in large enough doses and long enough the disease will be >irradicated from your body. > >The process of getting well is not pleasant and at times quite >frightening. I experienced stiff sore joints, popping of the hips and >knees,nausea, depression, paranoia and at times could hardly remember my own >name I was so ill. You literally have to get in bed and just rest. At times I >would have strange and unusual pains, jaw, teeth, one night it felt like >someone was putting an ice pick through the left side of my head. I knew of >course that all these strange aches and pains were due to the Lyme being >killed off. > > The Herxheimer reaction is our only barometer of how the CS is working, >along with all the other symptoms. The awful thing about this disease is you >get just as sick or sicker while getting well as you do getting sicker. But >you should feel worse than ever when you first start the CS. > > The dosing and length of treatment are imperative to achieve complete >wellness. The doses should be increased at regular intervals about every ten >days. I will post the dosing information below, please use it this is what >made the difference in
Fwd: Cure For Lyme! How about multiple sclerosis?
In a message dated 98-01-19 18:31:45 EST, chawtho...@aol.com writes:
<<
I am writing to tell all of you who suffer from Lyme disease that you
should have complete confidence in the CS for the treatment of Lyme disease.
If the CS is taken in large enough doses and long enough the disease will be
irradicated from your body.
>>
Is there any evidence available that CS taken in small or large doses will
alleviate any or all symptoms of multiple sclerosis?
Thanks for your help.
Harry Davis
--- Begin Message ---
Hi All,
I am writing to tell all of you who suffer from Lyme disease that you
should have complete confidence in the CS for the treatment of Lyme disease.
If the CS is taken in large enough doses and long enough the disease will be
irradicated from your body.
The process of getting well is not pleasant and at times quite
frightening. I experienced stiff sore joints, popping of the hips and
knees,nausea, depression, paranoia and at times could hardly remember my own
name I was so ill. You literally have to get in bed and just rest. At times I
would have strange and unusual pains, jaw, teeth, one night it felt like
someone was putting an ice pick through the left side of my head. I knew of
course that all these strange aches and pains were due to the Lyme being
killed off.
The Herxheimer reaction is our only barometer of how the CS is working,
along with all the other symptoms. The awful thing about this disease is you
get just as sick or sicker while getting well as you do getting sicker. But
you should feel worse than ever when you first start the CS.
The dosing and length of treatment are imperative to achieve complete
wellness. The doses should be increased at regular intervals about every ten
days. I will post the dosing information below, please use it this is what
made the difference in my treatment.
I know can do what ever I want, I have even started exercising on my stair
stepper three times a day. Folks this works it works, bottoms up.
Dosage Must Coincide
"With Body Weight"
The initial 1st (first) week dosage in all cases should only be 1/2 (one-half)
teaspoon only once (1) a day in the morning as the Colloidal Silver at 30 PPM
is so effective that if you start the therapeutic dosage of more than 1/2
(one-half) teaspoon per I (one) day you may put yourself into bed with a
severe Herxheimer or Candida reaction from all the dead bacteria piling up
waiting to be expelled from your bloodstream.
Thereafter your dosage of Colloidal Silver "absolutely must" correspond to
your body weight for the protocol to be successful as Colloidal Silver is
allopathic-the more you take the better it works and conversely the less you
take for your body weight the less it will be able to do for you. Again: The
dosage can be more but not less than that required for your body weight for it
to work and for this protocol to he successful.
The dosage baseline of 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.) morning immediately upon
arising I (one) hour before breakfast, and 4 (four) teaspoons (20 ml.) evening
2 (two) hours after supper, is based on an average infection for a 120 (one
hundred and twenty) pound individual.
The dosage also must be tailored to the severity of the infection, which means
you must increase the dosage (after you have adjusted the initial dosage to
your weight), if you have had a chronic, severe, or long-term infection.
It is crucial that:
Your starting-beginning baseline dosage ("before" you tailor dosage to your
symptoms) must correspond to your body weight. This means the baseline dosage
must be increased a minimum of I (one) teaspoon (5 ml.) every time you take a
dosage, to accommodate every 30 (thirty) pound increment in body weight.
For example: A 210 lb. individual must increase their baseline dosage to 7
(seven) teaspoons = (35 ml.) in the morning and 7 (seven) teaspoons (35 ml.)
in the evening.
The following outline is the basic initial dosage reference:
120 lb. man, woman or child 4 (four) tsps. morning and 4 (four) tsps.
evening.
150 lb. II II = 5 (five) tsps. morning and 5
(five) tsps. evening.
180 lb. = 6 (six) tsps. morning and 6
(six) tsps. evening.
210 lb. = 7 (seven) tsps. morning and 7 (seven) tsps.
evening.
Just to confirm:
A 60 (seventy) lb. child would respectively require a dosage of 2 (two)
teaspoons [10 (ten) ml.] in the morning and 2 (two) teaspoons [10 (ten) ml.]
in the evening.
Respective dosage you then stay at that dosage until you ameliorate all of
your symptoms If because of the severity or the chronic state of your
infection you plateau and have a stubborn symptom that you cannot knock out at
this dosage 4 then increase your dosage by I (one) teaspoon additional in the
morning and 1 (one) teaspoon additional in the evening for 2 (two) weeks.
This should make a big difference to your r
salt/no salt
I just finished making two batches of colloidal silver using Beck's (Action Electronics) device. I am starting from scratch; I have no previous colloidal silver solution to use as a starter solution. In making one batch, I did not add any salt to the 8 oz of distilled (Arrowhead brand) water. I left Beck's device on for 5 minutes; then turned it off. During that 5 minutes, I did not see any "clouds" form or appear to be "steaming off" from the silver electrodes. I did observe "bubbles" form all along one of the silver electrodes. In making the other batch, I did add one drop of the salt solution previously recommended by Beck. The instant that I turned on the Beck device, I could easily see "milky clouds" steaming off from the silver electrodes and that continued throughout the five minutes. At the end of five minutes, I turned off the Beck device. Questions: 1. Does the absence of "milky clouds" indicate that colloidal silver is not being generated? 2. Why did Beck change his recommended procedure and decide not to add a drop of salt to the 8 oz of distilled water? I am going to check Peter Lindemann's article and see what he says about salt. Thanks for the help. H. Davis
Fwd: SILVER: does the temper (soft, soft-hard, hard) matter?
In a message dated 98-01-09 20:48:36 EST, mdev...@mail.id.net writes: << Why are you going to a smelter, when there are mail-order places that'll sell .999 or better wire by the foot or the ounce for not too much more than bullion cost? >> What are the addresses of some of these mail-order places, Mike? Also, Mike, thanks for taking over the silver list. May the Light continue to guide and protect you. Harry Davis --- Begin Message --- On 8 Jan 98 at 14:45, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: > I was talking with a nearby smelter, trying to get a price quote. > > They asked me what temper I wanted; I don't remember all the > options, but soft, soft-hard and hard were some of them. Does the > temper matter? IE. does a soft temper result in a shorter time > required to get colloidal silver, or is temper irrelevant? I'll bet you're getting into uncharted waters there, Fred! My guess is that it isn't important, unless the tempering process manages to contaminate things. My biggest concerns are you knowing the purity of what they cast for you, and spending way more than you have to. Why are you going to a smelter, when there are mail-order places that'll sell .999 or better wire by the foot or the ounce for not too much more than bullion cost? I hate to imagine you paying setup costs on a small batch run to make wire. > Also, I was asking for 14 gauge wire. I was asked what shape (round, > square, etc). Does the shape matter? IE. does a square shape (larger > surface area) result in a shorter time required to get colloidal > silver, or is shape largely irrelevant? People have used several different gauges of round wire, I've seen flat strip electrodes, and others have taken a silver coin or ingot and cut it in half and dangled the pieces in the water! By far, most people are using round wire in the 12-14-18 gauge range. I am sure the shape and surface area have some effect on rate, but I doubt it matters a whole lot. Stick with the simple and try not to spend money you don't *have* to. Save your money for testing your final product for concentration (ppm) at a lab. Can somebody re-post the addresses of mail order silver vendors and ppm testing places for Fred? Thanks, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] --- End Message ---
Fwd: Use of salt solution for making CS
In a message dated 98-01-09 11:07:07 EST, m...@rnet.net writes: << Action Electronics no longer recommends using salt solution. They use a starter solution to speed up the making the CS. >> Do they say what is in the starter solution? << Quoting from instructions: "Since this is the method that Bob Beck is now recommending and prefers, we will no longer be supplying the sea salt or dropper bottle as we had previously." >> Did they say why Beck is now recommending a different procedure with no sea salt added? Thanks for your help. Harry Davis --- Begin Message --- Action Electronics no longer recommends using salt solution. They use a starter solution to speed up the making the CS. Quoting from instructions: "Since this is the method that Bob Beck is now recommending and prefers, we will no longer be supplying the sea salt or dropper bottle as we had previously." -- > From: RingDance > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Use of salt solution for making CS > Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 6:00 PM > > In a recent post to the list I recall that I said that the Beck instructions > that I had did not mention adding salt to the distilled water. In going > through my files again, I find that I was incorrect and that the instructions > received from Action Electronics does mention adding a salt solution to the > distilled water. > > Quoting from the instructions: > > "Then place the silver electrode wire into a tall, narrow glass containing 8 > oz of distilled water and a drop of saturated salt solution.' > > The instructions then go on to say: > > "Making a saturated salt solution for distilled water. This is made from pure > salt such as 'Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt' from the Grain and Salt Society, > P.O. Box DD, Magalia, CA 95954. Do not use table salt as it contains > additives like iodine, aluminum and silica desiccates. Mix one and one-half > teaspoons of salt in one ounce of distilled water. Let stand for a few hours > and filter off the top liquid. The salt must be dissolved in water before > using. The salt solution may be stored for repeated use in a 1 oz brown glass > dropper bottle. Add a little silver colloid to this to prevent bacteria > growth. Then use only 1 drop of this saline solution each time you make > silver colloid. It is important that you do not use excess salt or you will > not be making silver colloid but silver chloride. As more salt solution is > added, the silver comes off the electrode faster, but the micron size also > gets larger. Using one drop per 8 oz water is the best for making a particle > size than can be absorbed more thoroughly. As little as 4 drops can change > the chemical formulation into silver chloride." > > H. Davis --- End Message ---
Use of salt solution for making CS
In a recent post to the list I recall that I said that the Beck instructions that I had did not mention adding salt to the distilled water. In going through my files again, I find that I was incorrect and that the instructions received from Action Electronics does mention adding a salt solution to the distilled water. Quoting from the instructions: "Then place the silver electrode wire into a tall, narrow glass containing 8 oz of distilled water and a drop of saturated salt solution.' The instructions then go on to say: "Making a saturated salt solution for distilled water. This is made from pure salt such as 'Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt' from the Grain and Salt Society, P.O. Box DD, Magalia, CA 95954. Do not use table salt as it contains additives like iodine, aluminum and silica desiccates. Mix one and one-half teaspoons of salt in one ounce of distilled water. Let stand for a few hours and filter off the top liquid. The salt must be dissolved in water before using. The salt solution may be stored for repeated use in a 1 oz brown glass dropper bottle. Add a little silver colloid to this to prevent bacteria growth. Then use only 1 drop of this saline solution each time you make silver colloid. It is important that you do not use excess salt or you will not be making silver colloid but silver chloride. As more salt solution is added, the silver comes off the electrode faster, but the micron size also gets larger. Using one drop per 8 oz water is the best for making a particle size than can be absorbed more thoroughly. As little as 4 drops can change the chemical formulation into silver chloride." H. Davis
Questions/comments
Good morning (here in Tucson, Arizona anyway), Douglas: Enjoyed your recent posting to the silver list this morning. I do have a couple of questions/comments. 1. In the instructions that came with the Beck colloidal silver maker that I purchased from Action Electronics the following comments are made: a. "Since silver is slowly eliminated from the body, this article advises short term use. It further states that many people report using a daily amount of 1 teaspoon of 3 ppm colloidal silver, which contains about 15 micrograms (1,000 micrograms = 1 milligram). Any amount above 30 micrograms (2 teaspoons @ 3 ppm) may be considered a high dose." b. "Silver operates best in the body when the particles are as small as possible, and suspended as separately as possible. It has been suggested that finer particles ensure best absorption and are used by the body as a trace mineral. These parameters are met when you make your silver colloid for 3-5 minutes in 8 oz. of distilled water." Comment: I am assuming from the above that if one uses the Beck colloidal silver maker for from 3-5 minutes that the result will be a colloidal silver solution containing approximately 3 ppm. Question: do you know if the amount of ppm generated per unit time by a colloidal silver maker is dependent upon the design of a particular maker? For example, the voltage, etc.? 2. In your posting, you say that "the result is a good yellow colour after about 45 minutes. This solution I keep as a concentrate and dilute into my daily drinking habits in the ratio of 4:1. So I'm drinking 5 - 15ppm/20ppm on a daily basis and average consumption would be at least a pint of CS a day." Question: how did you arrive at the ppm estimate? Another question: have you found any "best" way of cleaning the silver electrodes? 3. I am not familiar with the "PA Lindemann 6 x A4 page info." Can you post a copy to me? Thanks, again, Douglas. May the Light guide and protect you and your family. Harry Davis
