Re: CS>Virus vs Outlook Express + "Colds"
Dear Virus experts, Question regarding vulneribility of Outlook Express to virus attacks. Outlook Express has a Preview Pane which shows message content for the highlighted message in the in-box. It would seem to me that previewing Black's virus-laden message is just as dangerous as double clicking on it to open it, even though previewing the message does not change the status icon (envelope flap says down). Is this right? I can't find anyway to turn off the preview pane. So the best I can do is highlight the Black message, for example, then delete it. But am I succeptable to the virus the moment I highlight the message, or not? Please - no lectures, just help me with the above. Yes, I just downloaded the very latest Internet Explorer package - all 19+ megabytes of it. And I have a fresh Norton AV data file. Yes, I got attacked by the Kak virus, but Norton AV quaranteed it. However, I now get "driver memory error" messages, I believe because there is still a foreign file lodged somewhere. A friend helped delete such a file before, but I don't remember where it is - perhaps somewhere in the registry? Anyone know how to get rid of the "Driver memory error" message? Another on-topic question: I have been taking my own about 10 PPM home made CS for a few years, and have managed to escape illness for a few years. But a week ago, I felt the symptoms of a "cold" coming on, so I upped the amount I take plus added Vitamin C, echinacea, etc. and felt the symptoms go away. But then a couple of days later, whammo - a whopper of a "cold" gave me "cement head", congestion, head ache, etc. No amount of CS intake helped, probably because I didn't do the inverted let it run into my sinus cavities bit, but it has prevented a sore throat. So, why did I get a cold? I has shaken my faith a bit of the effectiveness of CS! Thanks, --Steve - Original Message - From: "Gaston" To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: Re: CS>Virus Alerrt > Yes, I did get it as well. Norton picked it up before causing any damage. > > Gaston > > - Original Message - > From: "Kehoe" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 4:42 PM > Subject: CS>Virus Alerrt > > > > Just got a virus alert from the last post from "Black" Anyone else get it??? > > > > CK > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>Personal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Ted, Your adapter no doubt is rated at 9 volts 300 milliamps. Otherwise, you would have the equivalent of an arc welder (300 amps). For the tiny load your CS generator is to your wall adapter, the voltage is probably more like 10 to 11 volts, since most adapters are not regulated. What tester are you using? --Steve - Original Message - From: Ted Windsor To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: CS>Personal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use > Hi Brickey: > I am using output of 9V= 300 amps, my tester show 5 PPM after 40 minutes for 32 > ozs. > ALLERGIES, SINUS, COLDS, HEADACHES: This is one of our best medicines for > allergy, > sinus problems, colds and headaches. Excellent for dispersing headaches > and sinus > allergies/problems. Lie down, place three to five drops into each > nostril, when they hit the > back of the throat, sit up and blow your nose, then suck down from the > roof of your mouth > (snort) $20.00 Canadian. + S&H > > blessings > Ted > > brick...@aol.com wrote: > > > Ted. What voltage do you use on the wall adapter to silver pulser? 13.5 VDC? > > I bought a silver pulser and magnetic pulser finally hoping to get rid of a > > chronic sinus problem. I have been drinking one cup of hot tea made with Cs > > each night for a GERDS problem. Any reflux includes Cs? Seems like my > > heartburn is improving. Some of the tea is still in my stomach the next > > morning. So I need to make larger quantities of Cs than 16 ounces. > > I just got back home from a trip south where I saw lots of people with flu. > > So far I haven't caught it. Got my 45th IV chelation and dental work in > > Mexico. People are now saying that 90% of people who have had chelation > > treatments will not get Cancer. > > Brickey > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > Ted > Helping Hand Consulting > http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com > > >
Re: CS>Annoying More Power Boys
Marsha, Some of us are counting on you having visits with the professors at BYU who are probably doing the very same sort of research that you find so boring. We are counting on you being interested enough in the science as well as the results that you will be motivated to probe the BYU professors and pass on what they are discovering. We would like to read any papers they have produced about any aspect of their research. So please, repent of your "outta here" attitude and hang around. While I don't understand the details of the electrochemistry that Stuart, Ivan, Roger, Stephen, Frank, Brooks, etc. discuss with each other, I do feel it is of utmost importance to learn just how and what our CS generators produce, and exactly how and why they are so effective or not effective in us. Until the key mechanisms are known, how can we possibly hope to systematically make improvements? What is offensive, and which probably drives away people from the list is the nasty tone which acompanies some contributer's presentations and responses. The actual science can always be appreciated, even if not understood, especially when based on carefully planned and controlled and repeatable laboratory experiments. There needs to be much more experimentation and much less defense of pet hypothesis. I hope our illustrious colleges will continue conduct experiments and publish results which conclusively prove the in vitro effectivity of ions vs particles vs a combination of both. And I hope they will be honest in reporting results, even if ultimately the intention is for financial gain, as has been alleged occassionally. I personally have no problem with people making a reasonable profit from their labors and experiments. I have a big problem if people are so driven by the prospects of great wealth that they will falsify their research results, deny the fact that they may have overlooked something, attack other people's research, etc. It would also be valuable if experiments were conducted to see what foods or medicines or chemicals enhance or reduce the potency of CS products. For example, if one drinks a few ounces of CS and also pops a couple of aspirin at the same time, is that good, bad or of no consequence? So, can't we all just be more civil and help each other? Marsha can continue to help the newbies. Anecdotal testimonies are a valuable contribution to the list. The electrochemical scientists can help each other to make more scientific progress together than they could make alone, if they will just swallow some pride and admit there is much yet to learn about CS. --Steve - Original Message - From: Marsha Hallett To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:22 AM Subject: Re: CS>Annoying More Power Boys > > Oh my God, Marsha will be so offended with my reply that she may go off > list > > AGAIN? Ivan, Stuart, Frank are you listening? TAKE OUR DISCUSSION OFF LIST > > IMMEDIATELY, AND I MEAN NOW (Boy, I sure hope this works, don't you?) > > Roger > > OK, you win, I`m outta here. > I hope someone will benefit from CS, in spite of you. > Marsha > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Free Book Available
Frank, Thaks for posting this generous offor of a free copy of Prof. Gibbs' booklet. I printed it and found it valuable. Is his staff continuing with the colloid research? I noted in his evaluation of CS products that he eliminated some samples because of paper filter fiber contamination. I wonder if that is a legitimate reason for classifying a CS product as less than 5 or 4-star effectiveness quality. I think a lot of us use coffee filters or other paper filters to filter out the sludge which sluffs off our electrodes. I run some water through my filter for a minute or two before filtering the CS, but even so, no doubt my filtered product has some paper fiber in it. But so what? I don't see the harm of digesting a pit of paper while the CS is doing its duty. Am I missing something? --Steve - Original Message - From: Frank Key To: Silver List Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: CS>Free Book Available > Silver Colloids, Do They Work? by Professor Ronald Gibbs is available > free in printed form and now in Adobe pdf format. As a friend and > colleague of Ron Gibbs, I obtained a copyright license from the estate > of Ron Gibbs so that we could provide this book at no cost to all > interested parties as an educational tool. > > This book is currently sold by Amazon for $8.95, so get your free copy, > save money, and learn about colloidal silver from a world class > scientist and expert in the field of colloidal science. > > Information on obtaining the free printed copy as well as the version in > Adobe pdf format is at: http://www.silver-colloids.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>OT: Home-made LED Unit For General Use
I am very interested!! Please post the details. Also, please post your theory or facts on the mechanism involved in red light reduction of pathogen effectivity. By the way, thanks so much for your very valuable postings based on real research and laboratory findings. I believe many of us would like to know more about your profession and research group. --Steve - Original Message - From: BROOKS BRADLEY To: Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: CS>OT: Home-made LED Unit For General Use > The List Members may recall I made a series > of posts earlier in the year, relating to the fabrication of a simple > LED device. > Since that time, the same designer has > fabricated a smaller...slightly different unit which he has found to be > excellent for the treatment of mouth and throat insults. The unit is > constructed from 1" I.D. (6" section) schedule 40 plastic pipe; five > 3500 mc, clear red LEDs; 2 AA batteries; and one micro-sized slide > switch. This little unit has yielded superb results on a variety of > throat-residing pathogens. Excellent control (of both bacteria and > viral-based insults) has resulted from 4 to 5 minutes direct exposure, > twice daily,. > If there is any general interest I will post the simple > construction details and the experimental protocol technique he found > most effective. > Sincerely, > Brooks Bradley. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Source for Clark Book
Hi Group, Recently I tried to order Clark's book "Cure for all Diseases" from Barnes & Noble, but I was told it was no longer available. Out of print? Or did the FDA tell them to quit selling it? Anyway, I would appreciate someone directing me to an inexpensive source for the book. Thanks, --Steve
CS>Source for Clark Book
Hi Group, Recently I tried to order Clark's book "Cure for all Diseases" from Barnes & Noble. They said it was no longer available (out of print?, or did the FDA tell them to quit selling it?). Can someone direct me to an inexpensive source for the book? Thanks, --Steve
CS>Source for Clark Book
Hi Group, Can someone direct me to an inexpensive source for Clark's book "A Cure for all Diseases"? I tried Barnes & Noble and was informed it is out of print (or perhaps the FDA got after them to quit selling it?) Thanks, --Steve
Re: CS>Brigham Young Univ. study...!
Russ, See www.amsilver.com which posts the BYU reports. The product they make is colloidal silver, but they call it another name because of all the crummy websites that make misleading statements about colloidal silver. In other words, they don't want to be associated with the morass of misinformation. Marsha said she would visit the BYU professors doing the investigation to find out the latest and greatest - any news yet Marsha?? --Steve - Original Message - From: russ e rosser To: Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: CS>Brigham Young Univ. study...! > Group-- > > Who posted the Brigham Young Univ. study showing CS outperforming the > usually prescribed antibiotics for numerous, common pathogens? I find > that somehow I didn't save it, and it's the single most cogent pc. of > evidence of CS efficacy I could think of to present to the uninitiated! > (A proctored study of its non-toxicity would be the ultimate > complimentary datum.) > > Judith? Brooks? Barb? > > Thanks. --Russ > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:34:10 EST kiasib...@aol.com writes: > > sorry about that. I was so shook up I pressed the wrong keys!! > > Many years ago I poured some coca cola into a plastic > > sandwich bag...and then watched the bag disappear! That cured me...I > > > > thought"what is it doing to my stomach lining?" > > > > love and peace > > Kiasi > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>stirring
Tracy, Stir away! But constant gentle stirring is better because the effects of your periodic stirring will only last a minute or less. Consider doing what others have done, which is place a low wattage light bulb (like a 5 or 7 watt christmas light) under the bottom of your container and let the heat "stir" the CS via convection. Or, get a couple of "drinking birds", from a science or novelty store, to dip into your CS and create some movement! Wash off their felt beaks good with distilled water so you don't contaminate your CS. --Steve - Original Message - From: Nick Grant To: Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: CS>stirring > Hello there > > I suppose you are all going to say WHAT IS THAT WOMAN DOING!, when I ask you > if it's O.K. to stir the CS with a plastic spoon every 5 minutes or so. I > thought this would be o.k., since I cannot make fancy stirring thingees. Is > it not? Am I in error and going to spent years in purgatory? (just joking, > I don't believe in purgatory!) > > Tracy. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>stirring
- Original Message - From: Nick Grant To: Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: CS>stirring > Hello there > > I suppose you are all going to say WHAT IS THAT WOMAN DOING!, when I ask you > if it's O.K. to stir the CS with a plastic spoon every 5 minutes or so. I > thought this would be o.k., since I cannot make fancy stirring thingees. Is > it not? Am I in error and going to spent years in purgatory? (just joking, > I don't believe in purgatory!) > > Tracy. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Design for 160 Volt DC CS Generator
Send me a SASE to: Steve Young 1185 N. Cherrywood Dr. Layton, UT 84040-2951 - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: Re: CS>Design for 160 Volt DC CS Generator > Hi Steve; > > Plesae saend me the schenmatic for your unit. > > System Tech Engineering > Robert L. Berger > 12303 E. 89th St. > Kansas City, MO 64138-5150 > > I test every new wrinkle that comes on the List. > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Design for 160 Volt DC CS Generator
Send SASE to: Steve Young 1185 N. Cherrywood Dr. Layton, UT 84040-2951 - Original Message - From: Stephen Hessler To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:42 AM Subject: Re: CS>Design for 160 Volt DC CS Generator > Hi Steve, > Namesake here. If you care to send me your diagram, I would appreciate it. > This sounds interesting. Stephen K. Hessler, N.M.D. h...@mcmo.net > At 10:40 PM 12/2/00 -0700, you wrote: > > Hi do-it-yourselfers,The output current can be set to other > >values by varying one of the resistors. On the other hand, using 27 > >volts requires quite a long time for the current to ramp up to the desired > >value unless one adds salt, baking soda or some CS from a previous batch. > > I will not be responsible for any adverse results of using this > >design. --Steve > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Design for 160 Volt DC CS Generator
Hi do-it-yourselfers, I have developed a design for a constant current regulator whose output is a constant 1.11 ma at up to about 160 volts D. C. The circuit is very simple, and uses an LM334Z constant current regulator, a high voltage transistor and a couple of resistors. The power supply for it is a small dual primary transformer used as an isolation transformer for safety, and a simple half-wave rectifier. All the parts cost less than $15. The output current can be set to other values by varying one of the resistors. Why use such a high voltage? Because it allows immediate predictable production rates from the moment power is applied. On the other hand, using 27 volts requires quite a long time for the current to ramp up to the desired value unless one adds salt, baking soda or some CS from a previous batch. If any of you want the schematic, send me an E-mail off-list, I will send you my address so you can send me a SASE, and I will mail it to you. Sorry, I don't have a scanner yet to send it electronically. PLEASE don't request this unless you are experienced with electronics. Unlike wiring a few 9 volt batteries in series or using a wall wart, this design has voltages which can prove to be quite shocking. I will not be responsible for any adverse results of using this design. --Steve
Re: CS>HVAC via neon sign transformers
"Ole Bob", It's true - the statements "do compute". Neon sign transformers (NST) are designed to have a voltage high enough to ionize the neon, which takes just a brief time. Once the neon tube conducts, the voltage drops down considerably. The current is limited by magnetic shunts. The best way to "kill" a NST is to just plug it in with no load to lower the output voltage. NSTs are not at all like plate transformers. I belong to the Tesla list, and NSTs are the most common high voltage power source for Tesla coils. The constant complaint is that NSTs burn out quickly unless safety spark gaps are used to limit their output voltage. Many are the anguished reports of zapped NSTs! The failure mechanism is the potting material gradually breaks down, arcs, and a carbon track forms. These transformers can sometimes be salvaged by melting out the potting compound and refilling with vasoline or transformer oil. Very messy, time consuming job! So yes, get a 15KV transformer and run it on 70 volts input to extend the transformer life. A shorted NST will get hot, but I have not heard of them failing nearly as frequently as running them open circuit. --Steve - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>HVAC Colloidal Silver Generator Construction , If you run a neon sign transformer way above it's design voltage of abou 70% of it's nameplate voltage, it will fail from insulation failure, and if you run it for long periods below it it will fail from overheating. Load must be varied to maintain the proper output voltage of the transformer, or early failure will likely result. I would like to see the source of this data!! While I have never designed a transformer of neon sign service, I have designed transformers for the old tube type ham radio transmitters, as well as pulse welding transformers, and your statements do not compute. "Ole Bob"
CS>Re: Ungray hair
Marsha, Please tell us more about your B-vitamin hair ungraying experience. Which B vitamins, and what doses, etc.? Do you think also taking CS had anything to do with golden blondeness? --Steve - Original Message - From: Marsha Hallett To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:40 AM Subject: Re: CS>rosemary jacobs > (My hair isn`t gray anymore, thanks to taking B vitamins faithfully!! The > hair that used to be gray is now a golden blonde like when I was a child, > instead of the dishwater my hair had turned at age 20 or so.) > I feel sorry for old Rosemary, but she doesn`t have to be so nasty... > Love, > Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Friendly bacteria
List, Would someone please E-mail to me a brief but scientifically sound explanation as to why one can consume moderate daily doses of CS without wiping out the friendly bacteria in our intestinal tracts. I have read explanations in previous posts, but I can't find a specific post which answers the question satisfactorily. Might not hurt to post it to the list so others can benefit. Thanks, --Steve Young
Re: CS>DANGEROUS generator
List, I have read this list long enough to know most contributers and lurkers are not scientists and certainly not high voltage technicians. What Duncan proposes is potentially LETHAL and can quickly KILL YOU! The output from the microwave oven power supply is DEADLY, being thousands of volts at 1/4 to 1/2 an amp. We're talking a 1,000 watts of deadly power! If you are unfortunate enough to come in contact with it, it may be the last thing you do in mortality. And Duncan may find himself in a serious legal situation for suggesting such an idea with no accompanying warnings or disclaimers. I say this in spite of Duncan saying he would leave the safety devices in place. Even with the oven off, the high voltage capacitor can retain a dangerous charge on it for quite some time, especially if the internal bleeder resistor has failed. If you are not trained in the application and use of high voltage equipment, I strongly urge you to NOT try what Duncan proposes. I also don't understand how his proposed method will make fine quality small sized colloids. If high PPM are generated in only 3 minutes, than an awful lot of current (several hundred milliamps?) was used which likely will result in large particles. Again, unless you are an experienced high voltage engineer or electrician, STAY AWAY FROM LETHAL HIGH VOLTAGE EQUIPMENT! Stick with voltages less than 30 for safety, and you can make very fine CS. If you need quantity, then brew up many batches at once with many LVDC generators. Please - no flames over this. I am only trying to prevent someone from getting hurt or killed. Duncan and anyone else is welcome to make CS any way they want, but please be careful if you use high voltage methods. --Steve - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: RE: CS>best generator > Everyone,,, > > I can tell you how to make a CS genny that's real cheap to build and can > generate 2 quarts of awesome strong colloid in 3 minutes using a 4000volt > DC microwave oven circuit, with the safeties left in. You can get a used > microwave for free. It is easily modified in less than 20 minutes. If you > want to supply your friends or go into production, this is a good start. > Stop and stir every minute or less. > > By using the components alone and tubing with a low-volume fish tank water > pump > you could easily make a continuous-flow dispenser for bottling. I'm working > on one now that will do 4 liters/minute or more. The continuous flow > of the water will make current limiting unnecessary. > > What you're after is: > > High voltage (pressure) (measured in volts) > low current (flow) (measured in amps) > > This approach will waste less silver and make small particles and a stable > batch. > > The only other thing I'm going to try is North magnetizing the distilled > water before the run. (living water is good) > > ciao > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
