new e-mail address
To all on my list, My ISP has changed equipment, so he has changed my e-mail address. It is no longer: milcom...@topcatt.com but is now: milcom...@webwizzards.com please change your files. Thanks, Tom Miller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Differences
Susan M. Yensen wrote: > > ,I disagree with your conclusion that "store-bought" CS is no good. I > >>have had very good success with diverticulosis--wiped out two cases of > >>the problem--and it is only 5PPM. > >> > >>It may be true that more serious diseases may require more "potent" > >>forms of CS, but I would say that 5 PPM is more than adequate for most > >>nagging problems. > >> > >>Appreciate your posts--not intended as a flame. > >> > >>All the best, > >>Tom Miller > >>milcom...@topcatt.com > >> > >>** > Hi Tom, > > Glad to hear from you. Could you tell us about your experience with 5ppm > CS and what you treated and how much a day and how long. Also if on an > empty stomach. Did you have any adverse reaction at all? Was there a > particular brand that you found better than other? > > We are all learning here and need the sharing of experiences to be a little > more exact so that perhaps others might see a way to help themselves and > also different protocols for use. Perhaps after a time we may then know > more about this long ago well used solution that has been lost. > thanks Thanks for your response, Susan. The brand I used for the two cases of diverticulitis (not "diverticulosis", as I incorrectly stated in my original post) was Life Plus brand (I can already hear the MLM bashers now--they DO have some good stuff, you know). I took three teaspoons per day. The pain was gone after two days, but I continued for another day, just to make sure! And that's remarkable, since two other cases of the same problem (earlier than my CS days) took about a week to get the same results with the doctor-prescribed antibiotic. And, the antibiotic messed up the "flora and fauna" in the intestinal tract, which took even more time to correct. The CS did not! I now make my own CS, but have not had another case of the problem to test it on (thank the Lord)! I do not take CS on a regular basis--only when the occasion calls for it. I am probably known at our church as the CS kid, since I regularly recommend CS for just about any infection anybody mentions! I write it down for them, since most of them have never heard of it before. I did not even try to make sure that I took it on an empty stomach--I just took it when I was in the kitchen, although I most probably took it on an empty stomach, unintentionally. Hope this helps. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Questions
Susan M. Yensen wrote: > > >CS. How do I test for the PPM? I went out and bought some from the health > >food store this weekend but not knowing how to check for the PPM until I read > >your letter, I now realize that it is way off. (5ppm) I seem to have all of > >the symptoms. They have ruled out MS, Lupus, Syphillis and anemia. My > >symptoms are: headaches, achey legs and forearms, extreme fatigue, and pain > >in my joints. Of course, the symptoms seem to grow weekly. There is > >definitely a cycle of about 3 1/2 weeks. This has been ongoing for 5 months. > >I will appreciate your input and guidance. > >Cathryn > > Cathryn, > > I hope someone talked with you about this, I found this mail just now. > Lets see. > You test the ppm with a ppm meter--see Mike's critique today > > 5ppm of CS is probably destroyed by stomach acid and you probably paid a > pretty penny for it. My opinion is to forget the store bought stuff. I > know I went to the list because I trust these people more than anybody who > can put a label on a bottle. > > I can't tell you what to do of course because I am just me with my own > experience I can tellyou that many people do not get diagnosed with Lyme > from the antibody tests, many are and are undertreated as most don't know > about the life cycle of a spirochete. > > If your antibody is negative by Elisa, there is another test that you could > have done Called PCR--remember OJ? recently published (i don't know > where--Mike's wife knows this person) all in the family here. Article is > that the spirochete "hides" inside the red cell therefore no antibodies are > being made during this time. this has been found in Lyme and in MS and > I'll bet AlS too if they looked. The other thing is Chlamydia pneumoniae > found in various people with neur-immuno symptoms. At any rate it is an > infection. > > Many have found that CS is effective in treating these things, made at home > with distilled water and silver electrodes and DC current, very simple and > inexpensive--except for Mike who is doing all the tesing we need to > donate to him but i don't have his address. > > The CS needs to be adequate ppm 20-30 seems to be OK but others have had > all different ppm's. The main thing is to take it consistently until you > are symptom free. And then take it some more. I now know several people > who take a maintenance dose--I do not know how they arrived at that dose. > > If your MD puts you on antibx that's fine, if you want to use CS that's > fine too. this is an old "e-mail so I won't send you any more until you > tell me what you are going to do. Some do both. > > Let us know what you need. sorry for the tardiness of this reply > Susan > > > > > Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer > Susan Susan, I disagree with your conclusion that "store-bought" CS is no good. I have had very good success with diverticulosis--wiped out two cases of the problem--and it is only 5PPM. It may be true that more serious diseases may require more "potent" forms of CS, but I would say that 5 PPM is more than adequate for most nagging problems. Appreciate your posts--not intended as a flame. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Inhalation and ingestion of Silver Colloidal for Lung Cancer?
> Hi OXYgents and gals, > > Just wanted to say that as a lung cancer patient taking Tamoxafen > (which really tires me out), I started the oral H2O2 therapy in > conjunction with a basic de-toxifying program two weeks ago. Although I > was originally pretty skeptical that this would be of any value, I was > so depressed by my conventional doctors that I felt I had at least to > try to help myself in any way I could. > > I am pleased to report that it really does seem to help. I don't know > if it's curing my cancer, but it certainly has given me a lot more energy, > improved my mood, lessened my headaches, and made it possible for me to > sleep at night without the aid of narcotic drugs. I feel great! > > For anyone having difficulty sleeping well and getting weepy as > a result of that, I highly reccommend taking St.John's Wort tablets > before bed, as well. Many people are not aware that they are sleeping > badly and not dreaming properly because of pain, restlessness, or dream > deprevation due to narcotics, and that the effect of that is depression > and weepiness. There's enough of THAT just coping with terminal illness, > without letting sleep/dream deprevation add to the problem. > > Keep smilin' :) > Sue > Susan, Apparently, lung cancer resonds well to photo-oxidative therapy, otherwise known as "UV irradiation of blood". If you can find a doctor that is doing this therapy, I think it would be worthwhile to try it. Dr. Douglass, for example, in my area (Florida) is planning to start this protocol sometime this month. You might try an Internet search on "photo-oxidative therapy" or "UV irradiation of blood" to find a doctor somewhere in your area. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Newbie
It's not me wrote: > > I've seen reference to the Rife/Bare machine and I've never heard of it > before. Would some kind soul give me a brief description of what it is and > what it does. > Hi, You can find out all your little heart desires by going to the following site: http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Subject: PPM testers
jein...@cswnet.com wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:42:36 -0600 > > From: Marsha Hallett > > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: Subject: PPM testers > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Huttinger wrote: > > > > > >On Jan 28 Shaun Clayton posted: > > > >"...have any of you used inexpensive electronic PPM testers...?" > > > > > > There was an article in 73 Amateur Radio Today magazine maybe a > > > year ago > > > that showed how to make your own PPM measuring device for those who do > > > > > > electronic construction. I built one and it appears to work. One > > > thing I > > > noticed was that the colloidal silver solution we made seemed to > > > settle out > > > a bit. If I left the solution we made sit around for several days the > > > PPM > > > reading would drop off only to be back to its former level after being > > > > > > shaken up. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > PS this is my first post on this list. Hi everybody. > > > >Hi, Mike! I am Marsha, aka WA6GTO and my hubby is W7LDS. Welcome to > > the silver list. > > Are you a Ham, too? I`m not only a Ham, I`m a porker... :o) > > See ya around the list...73s > > Marsha > > > > > > > Hi Mike and Marsha, > I am KA5CXP, good to know of other hams on this list. > Jim Einert, ND > Jim, I am not a ham--I'm more a turkey! All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: Subject: PPM testers
M. G. Devour wrote: > > On 29 Jan 98 at 19:07, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: > > > >Can you tell me anything about how these ppm testers work? I > > >understand electronics, so get technical if you need to. > > > My wife would say you might be sorry you asked because I get > > too technical with her sometimes. You are asking excellent > > questions. It works by shining a laser beam through the solution > > and measuring the resultant reflectance off of the particles. > > > > > I know this doesn't answer all of your questions but it should be a > > start. > > Excellent, Mike! That tells me a lot. Thank you very much. > > Mike > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] Is it possible that that circuit diagram could be put up on one of the existing Web sites, so all of us could take advantage of the design? Just a thought. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: CS and steam
George N. Allen wrote: > > A couple of weeks ago I posted that I had begun using CS > to combat chronic bronchitis of long standing. In about 48 hours > I had a 50-60% reduction in symptoms. I now have about a 90% > reduction. > A question for anyone on the list who has a chemistry > or physics background. I have been using a small steam > generator, breathing the steam. Recently I tried putting CS > in it and breathing that. My question: do the silver particles > get lifted in the droplets of steam, or are they left behind? > > George Hi George and silver list, I would be interested in your regimen for taking CS for chronic bronchitis, since I also suffer from that problem. How many teaspoons per day, e.g. FYI, I have tried using CS mixed into the distilled water I use when I am using our ultrasonic (cool) humidifier. But I could not keep my head in the "cloud" because I would cough my head off (then I'd have to pick it up off the floor and start over ). I, too, would like to know if anybody else has tried either the steam or ultrasonic humidifiers to get CS into the lungs. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: CS water "You MicroWave your water"
> > Now your BAD habit of microwaving the water to heat it. Can I suggest > you do some reasearch about the micro wave process in relation to food > and water. Yes, there are millions upon millions of MW ovens being used > around the world, probably to the detriment of the users/eaters of the > food processed therein. This is another story and there is not alot of > information except from a maveric swiss researcher, whose name I will > have to look up. Switzerland has banned him from talking in public > legally. He does travel to other parts of Europe where he is free to > talk about his research, which essentailly says that food is nutrionally > destroyed by heating from the inside with radio waves, and in turn > affects your blood chemistry very subtally. Yes this is probably another > story and the work of another list. I personally have not used my MWO > for many years. I store my CS in its dark interior, now having papered > over the oven's window and because I've been too lazy to have it fixed > and to sell it. > > Regards > > Douglas Haack.au Silver freak/streak aahh!! wooosh! To those of you on the Rife/silver lista, about microwaving ANYTHING! You might try looking at the following Web site: http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/microwave.html All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: [Fwd: Colloidal silver and pregnant women]
Berntsen wrote: > > -- > Sincerely, > Nancy Berntsen > mailto:bernt...@bigfoot.com > http://www.connix.com/~berntsenProv. 3:5,6 > > Trust in the Lord with all your heart > And lean not on your own understanding, > In all your ways acknowlege him > And he will direct your paths. > > --- > > Subject: Re: Colloidal silver and pregnant women > Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 19:44:45 -0500 > From: Berntsen > Organization: Erase "X" after ".com" to reply > To: Fred Walter > References: <199801042137.qaa15...@centi.mks.com> > > There is reference to a possible danger for pregnant women in a study > done on Mass. regarding silver naturally in drinking water discussed in > the Fung, et.al. article I have listed on my webpage > http://www.connix.com/~berntsen/bb-lyme/c-silver.htm (not the article > itself.) > > However, there is no reference to ppm or "proof" that it wasn't > something else in the water. If you'd like a direct quote, please ask; > I'd have to dig it out but I know where my copy is. > > So is this list still going? Keep me posted. > > Sincerely, > Nancy Berntsen > mailto:bernt...@bigfoot.com > http://www.connix.com/~berntsenProv. 3:5,6 > > Trust in the Lord with all your heart > And lean not on your own understanding, > In all your ways acknowlege him > And he will direct your paths. > Nancy, What they are referring to is NOT colloidal silver--it must be elemental silver. Colloidal silver requires an electrostatic process in order to make it and generates very fine particles suspended in distilled water. So, what they are defining is nothing like colloidal silver at all, but the authorities just "may" attempt to define it as such--they don't know any better. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: Ignorance is malignant
CHawtho111 wrote: > > Do you think you could argue in private! This is getting really old and it > is only two members of this group who are involved. So please take this > conversation elsewhere! > > Thank You, > Candace I agree, Candace. Not only that, but I feel that certain Christians need to really sit down with their Lord and sort out their attitudes. I am a born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, but I am ashamed of the attitude that has been exposed on this list between one (or more?) Christian people and a medical doctor, the latter of whom is entitled to his opinion, just as well as those of us who name the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have not seen anything in Dr. Clayton's verbiage that should have inflamed anyone to the degree that I have seen on this list. If Dr. Clayton has said something that you don't agree with, there are certainly more civilized, and therefore, more Christian ways to attempt to come to a more amicable solution, such as agreeing to disagree, than severely vitriolic blasting in public (this list)!! Please control your anger. it's unbecoming to list members! All the best, anyway, Tom Miller
Re: Our own new debate
T.G.Windsor wrote: > > Hi Jack: > > I use CS when I feel the need, when I feel a sore throat comming on I take a > little extra, guess what in a short time I no longer have a sore throat. I > don't need any scientific proof, I know it works for me. But if you want > proof just look in any medical journal there is lots of evidence that CS > works on 650 virus. > > In good Health > > Ted > > >I've been reading and remaining silent because the current controversy > >is not sufficient to warrant joining in, but when I see poor context and > >syntax I get real uncomfortable. I guess it is my "college professor" > >complex showing through. > >1. When one cites an authority, one is citing, not siting. When one > >sites something they are essentially placing something somewhere. > >2. As far as the scientific basis for CS, I feel that UCLA and many > >other formal institutions are sufficient to not get out of joint just > >because the vast majority of us are looking for anecdotal exchanges on > >what works and what doesn't. That ain't scientific by a long shot, but > >who cares. > >3. If anyone thinks they can buck the establishment, then they need > >some serious counseling. I should think that if we network and > >communicate positively, then we have accomplished the mission of this > >group. > >4. I placed a request for assistance to this group awhile back and not > >one of you could take the time to lend me the assistance of your > >experience. I am really disappointed that this list has descended in > >quality to be a small group of people taking pot-shots at each other and > >forgetting that many of us are here for possible benefit that CS could > >do for us. > >5. As Christmas fast approaches, perhaps now would be an appropriate > >time for each of us to look inward and examine just why we are in the CS > >group. If the reason is anything but sharing and co-opting benefits, > >then go somewheres else where adversarial and agravational techniques > >are welcome. I, for one, am tired and disappointed with the conduct of > >too many of the group. As I learned back in the days when I used to do > >some serious mischief while engaged in covert ops, it is the focus of a > >mission that should never be lost. I feel that many of the group have > >lost their focus and are using the guise of christianity to air some > >rather unchristian epitaphs and outbursts. > > > >With that off of my chest, I can now give you all the most important > >message... > > > >Merry Christmas and a most healthy and prosperous New Year to all of > >you. > > > >God Bless. > > > >Jack > >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Content-Description: Card for Jack > >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > > > >Attachment Converted: C:\WINDOWS\SILKNET\VCARD.VCF > > Hi to those on the silver list, I have just knocked another case of diverticulitis in the head with colloidal silver! This is the third time it has worked so well--much faster than prescription medications. I take between 3-5 teaspoons of it each day and it only takes about two-three days to get rid of the offender!! Marvelous stuff!! All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: CS, what else? (long)
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > Dear Silver using folks, here is what I got back yesterday from a lady > who may be getting on the List. (I gave her the address, and the > generator directions). I first wrote to her, after seeing her hompepage > which is dedicated to the food borne diseases and antibiotic > degradations now rampant. > > Hi, Marsha, > I would be interested in receiving your directions for the simple > generator. I have a brochure given me by a friend, a vendor of the > commercial generators. In fact, they are essentially the same as a > simple > battery from the diagrams I see. > > I have wanted to find the time to do the scientific search for data, as > I > am a microbiologist and have extensive biochem/protein chem background. > I > am trained to be skeptical until I have data on which to draw > conclusions. > I am FULLY aware of silver's anti-microbial activity as a topical > bacteriocide, in eyes (silver nitrate), etc. I want to be certain that > safe > internal limits have been established, etc, before recommending it for > internal use. Silver can be reactive with MANY enzymes, not just those > found in disease microbes. I want all of the real evidence to evaluate > as > well as the anecdotal data from people's successes and failures using > it. I > will try to find time to do this soon...Geri Guidetti > > I`m hoping that we can get more professional folks like her to help "The > Cause" > so that other poor schmucks like me can just get well again. > Love, > Marsha Marsha, One thing she needs to keep in mind--silver nitrate is not the same as colloidal silver--far from it!! She just might find problems with silver nitrate and attribute the problems to colloidal silver, as well, which would not be true. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
Re: Acidopholus & treatments
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > Jade wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I was wondering what the consensus is regarding the necessity > > of > > augmenting helpful bacteria when doing colloidal silver &/or oxygen > > therapies. I've heard both sides--that the therapies ARE themselves > > supporting the bacteria, but also that doing these therapies REQUIRES > > additional acidopholus. > >Dear Jade, I`m not sure about the oxygen therapy, but I have read > that the bacteria in the colon aren`t affected by CS as it is absorbed > before it gets to the colon. Those who need to clean the colon of bad > bugs have to insert CS in the other end. I have been taking CS off and > on for 18 months now,orally of course, and if I don`t happen to have any > good bugs left down there, apparently I don`t need them. > Marsha Marsha and others, I can confirm that the colloidal silver DOES indeed reach the intestinal tract. Twice now, I have wiped out a case of diverticulitis by taking three teaspoons of silver each day, for only two days. I continued to take the silver for one more day (three days, total), even the symptoms had disappeared after the second day. All the best, Tom Miller milcom...@topcatt.com
particle size of colloidal silver
Thanks, Robert Beasley, for your input on the question of the acceptable size of colloidal silver. But, I still don't have any idea just how to determine the particle size of the colloidal silver I might make at home. Can any lab determine that for me? Tom Miller
