CS>Thanks
Thanks to evey one who wrote in with good generator suggestions. Silverpuppy was the unanimous choice. Tish
CS>Good generators
OK, I've decided that maybe buying a generator is much simpler and faster than making one. Can experienced people here suggest some good quality generators for around $100 or less that use 110v wall sockets for power? No batteries. I object to filling up the world's landfills with 9 volt batteries. Thanks so much in advance. Tish
CS>Bladder infection and Leaky gut
I found this page which describes how digestive problems lead to bladder infections among other things http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Colon%20Health/wright13.htm Tish
RE: CS>Oxygen, Burn or Explode?
I had a wonderful college instructor who told some terrible stories about burns people received from fooling around with pure oxygen. I meant burn. Oxygen is sort of like fuel that will allow generally inflammable substances to burn. The situations that are most risky are doing things like spraying pure oxygen in your face, on your clothing, or hair or allowing it to build up in any significant concentration in a confined area where there is anything remotely able to burn. For example a common one done with hair, is that welders might dust it with a blast of compressed oxygen and then get a static charge. It will ignite their hair and anything that has been covered with the oxygen nearby (skin) and it will burn fiercely. I suppose you could get an explosion depending on how flammable the substance that was in the presence of the pure oxygen was. The trick is, don't let it get concentrated anywhere except maybe up your nose. Pure oxygen is very oxidizing and can actually damage the lungs in too high a concentration. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Tests for Celiac disease
There is a simple blood test that is about 90% effective in detecting it. The supposedly definitive test is one where a scope is put down into the stomach and the upper part of the small intestines. They are examined for the classic celiac deterioration. This test is considered the true test, however, celiac disease doesn't always damage every square inch of the digestive tract. So, if they sample in a healthy place and there is nothing there, it'll be missed. Also, diagnosis is determined by a lab interpretation of a sample. There is definitely room for error there. There is a wide variety of severity of the disease, too, complicating the chances of finding it with the scope. My opinion is that this test just makes specialists a lot of money and that is why they like it. What is said to happen with celiac disease is that gliadin, a substance found in the gluten protein of wheat and other grains, causes an immune response that destroys the lining of the digestive tract where it comes in contact with it. Once the delicate villae and lining cells are damaged, they allow undigested larger proteins and food substances across into the blood. This causes the body to mount an immune response. The result is eventual development of other allergies, lowered immune function, and possibly development of autoimmune diseases and reproductive problems. Also, the person is just generally less healthy because it is draining the system and preventing uptake of nutrients and protein, since their uptake is dependent on having healthy microbial life and no inflammation. There are other specialists who have written that celiac disease is really a consequence of a condition called Leaky Gut. They say that the wheat allergy occurs when damage to the gut allows the gliadin into the blood causing an immune reaction. Leaky gut can be caused by many things, one important cause is antibiotic use which disturbs natural gut flora allowing yeast to get control and altering the health of the lining. Also, mercury toxicity is another trigger. The way that leaky gut may cause bladder problems is by partially digested larger molecules from the digestive tract getting into the blood. These molecules and the waste products from the immune response must then be removed by the liver and the kidney/bladder system. So, essentially, the person is getting a concentration of toxins in the bladder and perhaps having a further immune response to them leading to more bladder inflammation. In such people the immune systems are overburdened so then they become more susceptible to pathogens that natura lly occur and they can't fight them off very well. A really good book discussing this topic and one that claims to offer a cure is Elaine Gothchall's "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" Also, check into the Paleo Diet and the Whole Foods Diet. Elaine Gothchall's daughter was stricken with a terrible digestive illness and was cured with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet promoted in the book. She is now a totally healthy adult. The author claims that celiac disease can be cured through proper diet for a year or so that heals up the lining of the digestive tract. I have been on this diet for about 8 months and have lost most of my food allergies that I developed from the celiac disease. I still cannot eat wheat or I still am afraid to eat it so don't know. It's a small price to pay for staying healthy. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Sucking up oxygen
As a former welder, sucking up oxygen should be done with great care as just about anything burns in the presence of pure oxygen. All it takes is a spark and - WA LA - no more hair and a serious burn. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Possible cause of recurrent bladder infections
I wanted to comment here, since I suffered most of my life with recurrent bladder infections. When you listed all the stuff that your daughter is doing, it brought back so many memories of all my own rituals to keep them at bay. Now, on looking back, all were pretty innefectual, with exclusion of the cranberry and CS, which I didn't use then. By the time I reached my 40s I had developed something suprisingly similar to interstitial cystitis or basically weeks a month of irritation that felt just like an infection, but lab tests found no bacteria. It got to the point that I once had to visit the emergency room for a catheter in order to empty my bladder. During that time I had swithched to a vegetarian diet heavy in grains. I also read some disturbing information that indicated that standard treatments for bladder infections (various antibiotics, etc.) may be implicated in later development interstitial cystitis development-but it may just be that chronic infections means something is wrong that is just going to get worse with time. What fixed it for me was eliminating wheat and other grains. I have not had one bladder infection or irritation since. I was a celiac and didn't know it. I recently read an article on interstitial cystitis, a very painful bladder irritation conditon at http://www.mercola.com/2003/apr/9/bladder.htm (go to Dr. Mercolas comments at the bottom) where Dr. Mercola commented that the elimination of wheat helped the condition significantly. Tish
RE: CS>CS and ear infection
I don't know about the silver, but have read in more than one place that food allergy underlies this problem in most cases. http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/theroleoffoodallergiesinearinfections/ My suggestion is to later try eliminating some of the major food allergens, which are: Milk and milk products White wheat Eggs Chocolate Tomatoes and tomato products Citrus fruits and citrus juices See what happens. I was plagued by all kinds of infections as a kid and was a celiac (wheat allergy) and didn't know it. Tish
CS>High fat diets
Could the problem with studies here be the kind of fats? Meats raised on corn and soybeans has a much different type of fat than grass fed. Also, trans-fatty acids such as in margarine and shortening are very bad for people. So, I have to wonder about results of studies which used these saturated fats. http://www.panix.com/~paleodiet/ Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
Dear Dean, Thanks for the information. I live NW of Ames. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
Dear Dean, I noted your comment about Des Moines and wondered if you go to a coin shop anywhere in Central Iowa to get your silver. I live near Ames and am just starting on the colloidal silver thing. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>RE: CS Generator - Caution
I actually had thought of this and had been thinking how to avoid it. Thanks for impressing it further on me and the solution. Tish -Original Message- From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@amerion.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>RE: CS Generator - Caution The use of silver maple leafs clipped onto a glass with alligator clips is not a good idea. Water will condense onto the alligator clips and electrolysis will take place yielding colloidal tin and cadmium. The bubbler will only exacerbate this.. Silver Maple leafs are an excellent source of silver and I used them before getting my wire. I drilled holes in them and suspended them with 999 silver wires. Best Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: "Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: CS>RE: CS Generator - Thanks Keith > Dear Keith, > I had seen this one and was debating whether I should do that. So, it sounds like it's a good one to do. > > Tish > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>RE: hypothyroidism - for Sharon
You wrote: "Can you expound on hypothyroidism? I do have it. But most of the docs I have been to just want to throw some pills at you and send you on your way, with no discussion on how best to live with it. I have my theories. Like that somehow it is connected to depression. And that strenuous exercise will help balance it. But these are just theories. Now I am worried that It will get worse if I take CS all the time. Is there a test to measure selenium Catherine?" Dear Sharon, Hypothyroidism causes depression and one of the worst things docs do is throw antidepressants at women, which in themselves worsen hypothyroidism. It is known in medical literature that thyroid treatment can cure long standing intractable depression. Hypothyroidism has a major impact on brain health and function. Many new antidepressants interfere with thyroid function and T4 to T3 conversion. There are many sites that list the symptoms of hypothyroidism. Read Mary Shomon's "Living Well With Hypothyroidism" But, the sad thing is that I went for years and years misdiagnosed and suffered much health debilitation. Some signs are high cholesterol, weight gain, bloating, depression, low body temperature, cardiovascular disease, memory problems, digestive disturbances, sleep disturbances, and reproductive disorders from high estrogen. You can run a simple body temperature test on yourself http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-104.shtml to see if your metabolism is slowed. In the old days, hypothyroidism was diagnosed by some good physical tests of muscle response, the person's appearance (hair quality, nail ridging, skin condition, weight, etc.), and the nature of their complaints. Current tests that you obtain from the doctors are not adequate because they do not detect all conditions that can make a person hypo. A person can actually have normal blood work and be hypothyroid. Most doctors only test TSH. This test is far from adequate due to ranges being too broad and the fact that a person can easily have normal TSH and be hypo from a problem in the brain TSH feedback system. At the very least, you should have a Free T3 and Free T4 test and in all tests you should be above the midline somewhere. The reason for this is because it is mostly hypo people who have thyroid tests which skews the ranges for what is normal toward hypo. TSH should be between 1.0 and 2.0 not 1.0 and 5.0. Exercise can be helpful, depending on the type of thyroid problem you have. If you have a thyroid system problem with normal test results and maybe thyroid hormone cellular insensitivity or resistance, then exercise can help. It is best done several times a day for short (10 minutes or a little more) intense periods. This helps keep the metabolism and body temps higher throughout the day. However, if you have been hypothyroid for a while, it is likely you have been overworking your adrenals. Then, exercise can pull the system down and make you feel worse. It also increases demand for thyroid hormones and if your thyroid cannot keep up, then you won't get a lot of benefit. The adrenals actually try to compensate for low thyroid hormones by raising adrenalin and with hypothyroidism more cortisol is needed to deal with the inflammatory processes that are caused by being hypo. Long standing hypothyroidism often results in adrenal fatigue or hypo-function. Adrenal fatigue itself is associated with depression, lethargy, hopelessness and mood disturbances. Violent offenders have been found to have low adrenal hormones. A good tip is to go to the Wilson's Thyroid website http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/ and find a Wilson's doc. They would be more likely to treat you not based solely on tests and they would be more likely to run more extensive tests. Mary Shamon's http://thyroid-about.com mentioned earlier is a very good site with many excellent articles and a doctor list. You can try supplements to help your thyroid and adrenals. Nutri-meds makes thyroid extracts which contain small amounts of thyroid hormones. Keep in mind that if you supplement with thyroid hormone and have adrenal fatigue, you are going to feel worse. In that case, you will need to help the adrenals with glandulars or hydrocortisone replacement. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>RE: CS Generator - Thanks Keith
Dear Keith, I had seen this one and was debating whether I should do that. So, it sounds like it's a good one to do. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Generator question & thanks
First, thank you to Engrid and Chuck for your response to my question about dosages and the website question. I've been looking around at home made generators and I am not interested in the battery type. I know the ones you buy are simple under the cases and wondered if anyone has a website or place to look for good instructions to build my own high quality generator that plugs into a wall socket and that will last for years. Thanks. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Selenium
Selenium is essential for the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3. T3 is the one that does most of the work of energy production. So, low selenium can result in hypothyroidism. You don't want that, believe me. It'll ruin your health. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Question - CS Dosages?
Can people on this list give me dosages that they are using daily and PPM? I am trying to figure out what I should use. At this site, the author gives instructions for a very cheap CS generator: http://cat007.com/silver.htm He claims it makes a 5ppm solution. He uses a fish tank aerator and a 6 volt converter. I have used these converters to etch aluminum printmaking plates. What do people think of his ideas? Thanks. Tish
CS>ADD/ADHD
Have you looked into neurofeedback training. These practitioners claim a very high cure rate. I have used it for insomnia, which I developed from adrenal fatigue and got some pretty amazing changes in the rest of my life along with restored sleep. I am much calmer altogether now and function better at work and just about everywhere. It is supposed to help lower demand for cortisol and the changes are said to be permanent. In fact practitioners make many broad health claims for it ranging from lowering blood pressure to improved intelligence. Check out the book "Getting Rid of Ritalin." Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Alzheimer's - another theory
I have read yet another theory on this that ties it to various degrees of hypothyroidism. In hypothyroidism, cells are not able to clear toxins and byproducts of metabolism. People naturally become more hypo as they age. In the caveman days, humans got some amount of animal thyroid from their meet and it is estimated that it was about equivalent to 1/4 grain a week. This could offset it if it is playing a role in the buildup. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Thanks for the info
Dear Bill, Thanks for the encouragement on the amoeba thing. You are right that if it kills the amoeba itself, then the cycle will be broken. When you say "industrial strength." what dose are you talking about? Thanks again. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>New to list
Hello, I have been investigating colloidal silver lately after a long journey with entomoeba histolytica and other health problems, especially in the last year. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism (have been hypo for years but ignored), adrenal hypofunction, and entomoeba histolytica infection. I was treated for the amoeba with flagyl a month after the thyroid diagnosis which was a disastrous health period of beginning the wrong kind of thyroid therapy and not getting any treatment for adrenal fatigue on top of it. So, the flagyl just about killed me. It was prescribed by a totally parasite ignorant doctor after I took the initiative to get a GI test on my own and brought him the results and the treatment protocol. I just was not able to handle 10 days of Flagyl at 750mg/day. I quit after day 4. At about that time, I got a new out of state thyroid doctor and was put on all T3, and low dose cortef. Over the next few months, my health improved greatly, except that I still had the bug. I visited a new doctor to see what other meds I could take for the amoeba. He ran blood tests and determined that I no longer had it. Well, others more knowledgeable informed me that blood tests were not good indicators whether I did or didn't still have this infection. I came to the conclusion that I still had it because I knew I was not right. Histolytica is a nasty parasite that bores into the intestinal lumen and other soft tissue (liver, brain) and hides. It also produces copious amounts of infective cysts. It makes substances that turn off the immune system. I live in an area where these type of parasite infections are fairly unknown by doctors and doctors are woefully ignorant. I knew I would not likely get help from any local or statewide doc and there was only one other "approved" medication available to me that was very nasty. So, I needed a systemic drug that would get these hiders as well as something to kill the cysts. I decided to order Tinidazole from overseas. It is not approved here in the US because the drug companies have decided it won't be profitable. It kills the amoeba and cysts in just 3 days, which is much more tolerable for sick people. It must be followed with another antibiotic (paromomycin, Iodoquinol, or Yodoxin) for 2 weeks to 20 days in order to take care of the remaining cysts. I was not able to get any of these others. So, I happened on a product called Silver & Clove, which contains colloidal silver, berberine (known to kill amoeba) and a few other things. I used that for a 3 weeks, while I waited for the tinidazole to arrive and I had pretty good results. Then after taking the tinidazole I continued using Silver & Clove for over a week. Now, I am using a 500ppm colloidal silver preparation alone on the second week after the tinidazole. I sure hope this kills the cysts or I will be very unhappy. 3 days of Tinidazole is quite toxic enough. I'm not keen at all on doing it again. So, what I was wondering is: Does anyone know how good colloidal silver is at killing cysts of amoebic dysintery? Also, I am wondering what it does to healthy gut flora. One of the things that I need to do is reestablish healthy life forms in the gut. I've read that people use it all the time. Does this affect nutrient uptake, since some life forms are needed for good digestion and digestive tract health? It is claimed it will control yeast, but I have read one person's personal account who did not get yeast control. This scares me as to whether then it really is totally effective against amoeba cysts. Thanks Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
