Re: CS>Re CS:. Update re CS/H2O2 for Sinus
Dear Harold, I'm very pleased to hear that you've found a way that cured your sinusitus and that of your wife. I recognize my own situation in yours. I'm still suffering from a chronic nose-cold that now and then evolves into a sinusitus that causes big headaches in my sinus area. --- In short, my situation: Since I was a child, each spring and autumn I was sure to have a cold that started in the nose and ended in the lungs. Each time treated with antibiotics (the first thing that doctors give out here in Belgium, I believe they think it's candy). If that doesn't do it, you get a treatment with cortisones. At the age of 21, I got it bad and after 2 series of antibiotics, and 1 stronger antibiotic (all in about 1 month time) they wanted to start me with cortisones. I was already so sick because of the antibiotics (stomach problems), so I decided to try a homeopath that was also a medical doctor. For about 5 years I did not have a real bad sinusitus but during that 5 years I was having a minor nose-cold the whole year through. I was almost accepting the fact that I regularly scratched my throath to remove the slimes. Until early this year when I had a bad sinusitus and I really asked to give me the normal, non-alternative treatment. That helped. I went again to a specialist because I really wanted to make and end to this continous nose-cold. He told me I just needed to take the cortisones when I get a sinusitus. After explicitly saying that cortisones are unhealthy, he said it wasn't harmful according to him if I only needed it once or twice for a short period each year. "When you fall and have your knee open, the body generates even more cortisones by itself" was the answer. Nothing else could be done... I guess you could call this "the Drs would not even talk about it eventually" as in your case. --- How long did it take you to get cured? Where there side effects? Are you totally cured now? What do the :MSM, Xylitol and H2O2 add instead of using the CS solely? Kind regards, Filip - Original Message - From: "Harold MacDonald" To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:29 AM Subject: CS>Re CS:. Update re CS/H2O2 for Sinus > I have found this mix to be very effective for severe chronic Sinusitus in > treating two cases. > I mix 50 ml of CS with 500 mgs of MSM,500 mgs of Xylitol powder plus [30] > thirty drops of 3% H2O2.This mixture is put into a nasal pump mister and up > to 15 pumps into each nostril and sniffing while blocking the other > nostril.After each nostril is treated,the head should be held at a lower > elevation so that the mix can run into the sinus cavities.This protocol > should be used the same way that ABXs are used, for a long enough time[even > if the symptoms seem to be gone] to make sure the good results remain. > This has proven to be very good for this particular case;approx. 10 years > ago broad spectrum ABXs were given to try to cure a long standing sinus > problem;the first try did no good,so a second and a third were tried.This > was of no avail and all that happened was that all the Good flora in the gut > was destroyed which led to many years of gastro-intestinal distress,with all > the attendant problems. > This sinus problem escalated into a miserable problem and the Drs would not > even talk about it eventually.Then to add insult to injury,this sinus > problem ,which can be contagious,was transmitted to the spouse.The above > treatment has been the only thing that has alleviated this misery in many a > year. > AND; if you have guessed this couple has been my wife and me,you are > correct. > Harold > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
CS>Why, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Dear CS-community, Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. As I stated some time ago, I became sick for about 1,5 week (having a need-to-throw-up feeling) after taking 3 coffee-spoons of self-made CS. See: RE: CS>Stomach-problems when using CS? in the archives. As I feared I had poisoned myself, I had a stomach check (with a camera through the mouth into the stomach), a blood and urine check after 1 week of being sick, everything was ok according to the doctors. Only a minor "irritation/infection" in my stomach, but that was very normal and could be viral. Half a week later everything was back to normal. Two weeks later, I wanted to give "making CS by myself" another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure. After using it for about 4 days now, just spraying it in my nose (2 times a day, 3 sprays in each nostril), I'm feeling ill in my stomach again and again waking up in the middle of the night with a need-to-throw-up feeling. As I don't think it's the silver (as I got the same result from 2 different suppliers) I could only think: * it is the "destilled" water that I use, although it comes from a pharmacy store. * I'm allergic to "silver", although I don't have any problems with wearing my silver ring. * I have some kind of infection that I don't even know about or my nasal problem is connected with my stomach as someone mentioned to me. * it's a normal reaction (e.g.: Herxheimer reaction): the feeling I experience is need-to-throw-up (without having thrown up), waking up in the middle of the night with that feeling and a strange, weak, almost tinteling sensation in my arms. I've read alot about CS at alot of different websites, but I cannot find anything about this kind of reaction. I truly believe that CS works, but why doesn't it do the wonderful thing to me? PS: As i currently use 24V DC adaptor on 2 (125mm long, 2mm thick) 99,9% silver electrodes for 15 minutes in 500 ml of boiled distilled water, I have no way of knowing how much ppm I produced. I only know it was both times clear not yellow. The + electrode (red on the multimeter) became dirty gray and the - electrode (black on the multimeter) became yellow. I think I read somewhere that it should be vica versa. Kind regards, Filip
Re: CS>Why, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me?
Hi Paula, The first time, I bought the wire from a website of an acupuncturist in the Netherlands. Because I had that reaction, I was uncertain about the silver wire, although he says he sells it alot with no problems and that he gets it from a trustworthy source. Therefor, I bought the wire that I used the last time from a jeweler who makes his own jewelry. He says it is 99,9% silver as he buys it like that in the form of grains that he later on mixes with other metals to make the jewelry. Again, I do not know this person and if he is telling the truth, altough I urged him that the purity is more my concern, not merely its worth/value in money as I am using it for medical intake. In both cases, it is the problem that there is no way of checking it and it is a matter of trust, just like you trust https://secure2.websitecomplete.com/acbel/shop/showProd.asp?prod=13 to be selling 99,9% silver. I am willing to give CS a try, but the problem is that I have been feeling ill from it for the second time while I was not sick at all before (except from a chronic nose-cold that I am used to and at the moment isn't bothering me). I'm afraid that waiting for 2 weeks now to feel better again from the CS reaction and trying it again will result in the same reaction and I may be causing some other illness that cannot be cured or so... Kind regards, Filip - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: CS>Why, o why doesn't it do its wonderful thing for me? Filip, I doubt very much if a jeweler is using .999 pure silver wire for jewelry...it's too soft. A friend of mine who is a jewelry maker uses sterling silver wire. Which is what I bet you are trying to make CS with. This is probably at least part of your problem, as sterling silver contains some copper and, probably nickel. I don't know what you are making, but please try some wire from https://secure2.websitecomplete.com/acbel/shop/showProd.asp?prod=13 paula - Original Message - From: filip.hoe...@pandora.be Sorry if my post()s is/are elaborate, but I really want to find a solution to my problem and I try to give as much as context as possible. Two weeks later, I wanted to give "making CS by myself" another try. This time I used 2 silver electrodes that I ordered from a jeweler that made it from 99,9% silver grains that he uses for making jewelery. I expressed my reason for needing to be sure it is 99,9% pure.
CS>A comparison website
Dear CS-community, I don't know if the following website is known to any of you, but I just found it while searching to buy pre-made CS: http://www.silver-colloids.com/ I don't know how trustworthy all the information is at this website, I also did not yet check it out entirely, but look at: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html You can even get a comparison chart, for what it's worth. I found the website when I searched to buy "Sovereign Silver". But it costs 35 EUROS or DOLLARS for 120ml of 10ppm. Any remarks? PS: I know making CS yourself should be easy and cost less, but as I mentioned before to this list, I already have tried 2 different batches with silver from 2 different sources and I got 2 times a reaction that nobody really has an answer for... I tried one commercial product before and I did not have any bad reaction, but also not really a good result either. Maybe they sold me plain water ;=(. Anyway, I've became a little afraid of my selfmade batches... Kind regards, Filip
Re: CS>A comparison website
Euh... For the CS-related remark: > Colloidal Silver can be produced for pennies per ounce, what > would make the silver already produced worth that much As I mentioned in my post, I already knew that CS can be made reasonably cheap by myself. Except for the fact that with my simple setup I can only "guess" how much ppm I'm making and even if I buy a controlled system (as I am thinking about buying the "silver puppy") I still face the problem of having no way of checking the used destilled water and the silverelectrodes for purity. As I am following this silver-list for a couple of weeks now, I wanted to add some - maybe useful info (and I still think it is useful) - to the community instead of only asking help. It can be useful, not just for buying tips, but maybe for testing your own CS batches or some other useful info from the site. As I am researching CS, each week I find some new source of information that just doesn't show up directly when searching Google for "Colloidal Silver". --- And for your insulting remarks: --- > communist nation I hope you didn't mean Belgium with it. Please check your own first. > Euros, a funny money currency worth more than US Fiat currency? There are other currencies on this world, you know. And also other languages, ways to do things, ... Surprise! > That is something deserving of a little thought I hope you were talking about the CS and its prices again here... I could have (and was very tempted) to go into the offence here, but I do believe that there are wise and kind people at your part of the world that did not deserve such offences. I've been replied by them the past few weeks, so I am sure about that. "Be nice" is what's important here. Regards, Filip - Original Message - From: "Cliff Hume" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: Re: CS>A comparison website Collopidal Silver can be produced for pennies per ounce, what would make the silver produced in that communist nation worth thirty-five Euros, a funny money currency worth more than US Fiat currency? That is something deserving of a little thought. At 11:29 AM 11/25/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Dear CS-community, > >I don't know if the following website is known to any of you, but I just found it >while searching to buy pre-made CS: >http://www.silver-colloids.com/ >I don't know how trustworthy all the information is at this website, I also did not >yet check it out entirely, but look at: >http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html >You can even get a comparison chart, for what it's worth. > >I found the website when I searched to buy "Sovereign Silver". But it >costs 35 EUROS or DOLLARS for 120ml of 10ppm. > >Any remarks? > >PS: I know making CS yourself should be easy and cost less, but as I mentioned >before to this list, I already have tried 2 different batches with silver from 2 different >sources and I got 2 times a reaction that nobody really has an answer for... > >I tried one commercial product before and I did not have any bad reaction, but also >not really a good result either. Maybe they sold me plain water ;=(. Anyway, I've >became a little afraid of my selfmade batches... > >Kind regards, >Filip -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Gen Specs??
Dear Robert, I'm happy to hear when people use CS, they also share this with the silver-list. Both the good and the bad news. In your case, I am particularly interested as I am also having problems with a chronic sinusitus and/or nose cold. I received some CS (at least they told me it was) from a friend-of-a-friend that really cleared up my sinuses. But it was such a little amount that I was only able to use it for a couple of days. So I also bought some CS but it did NOT do much NOTICABLE work (it was 1 ppm from DNH (http://www.dnhresearch.nl/)) So, I read a lot about CS on the internet and decided to make my own. Tried it 2 times and 2 times I began feeling sick (throw-up feeling) for 1 to 2 weeks after using my homemade CS. Therefor, I first want to test again with CS that is known to be of good quality. As I cannot say that the silver or the Destilled Water I am using is good. It should be however. So I have some questions for you. 1) Where did you buy the CS, and which product was it exactly (if there was a choice on that website)? 2) How did you use it? How much, how many times a day, for how long until you noticed much improvement? 3) Did you have any (temporary or not) side-effects like a sick feeling in the stomach or guts? Kind regards, Filip - Original Message - From: "Robert Finsel" To: Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: CS>Silver Gen Specs?? > Hello everyone, > > I have suffered with chronic sinusitis for a very long time. I have been > subjected to every treatment my doctor could think of including > rhinoplasty, many different antibiotics, nose sprays, nebulizers and > even several allergy treatments (even though I was tested for allergies > and none were found). > > After 15 years of this horrible cycle of treat-->temp relief-->another > infection my faith in traditional medicine is shot. I decided to find an > alternative. What I found was Colloidal Silver. I purchased an 8oz > bottle of 10ppm Colloidal Silver from a website. WoW the cycle is > broken! My sinuses haven't been this clear of infection in at least 12 > years. I can taste and smell again. I have used almost my entire > original bottle of silver. I know now that I will never be without this > stuff again. I would also like to share this wonderful discovery with my > family and friends. I have made up my mind to make a generator capable > of producing enough high quality silver to supply myself, my family and > my friends. > > I would like to end up with a generator capable of producing a gallon of > high quality 5 to 20 ppm at a time using 120V AC (standard wall outlet). > I would like to hear some of your expert opinions on what I should use > to build my generator. My friend is an electronic engineer and has > agreed to help with the electronic part of the generator. My budget is > limited to approx. $100.00. > The main thing I need now is a better understanding of the electronics > involved in the generator. What voltage when where and for how long to > produce what. > > I plan to use store bought water at first at least. Any recommendations > of which brand to use would be very welcome. > I purchased 36" 12 gauge . pure silver wire off eBay > > That is all I have so far. > > Thanks in advance, > Robert > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
CS>Remarks on or experience with CS and/or CS generators from www.health2us.com
Hi, Has anyone any remarks or experience (both positive as well as negative are welcome) about the: * CS * CS generators from http://www.health2us.com/ A couple of days ago, someone posted a message about having good results with treating a chronic sinusitus using pre-made CS from this website. I am thinking about buying some CS from there... Regards, Filip
CS>CS: How to test if it is 99,9% silver?
Hi CS users, I'm pretty new to the CS world. Sorry for the elaborate story, but maybe someone recognizes this problem and it helps to get the general picture about a problem. My reason for wanting to use CS is that I have a chronic problem with my nose/sinusses. Since I was a child I had a cold every spring and fall. I was always treated with antibiotics. When I was about 21 years old, 3 series of antibiotics in 1 month time didn't even cure my sinus infection. So I went to a homeopath (which was also a conventional physician) and for about 5 years I didn't get really ill but I had a continuous cold in my nose year in, year out. Until early this year when I got a serious sinus infection for which I needed to take cortisones (I don't know if it is correct English). After that I wanted to get rid of this chronic problem of a cold in my nose. I tried acupuncturing and ear-acupuncturing but this did not help me out either. Until a friend of the family gave me some CS. He gave about 50 ml's or so of CS and when I sprayed it into my nose, it dryed very fast and seemed to help me out. The first 15 seconds it gave a "burning" sensation, is that normal? I don't know what kind of CS it was or if it really was CS, the friend just told me it was. However, when I was out of it, I searched the internet to buy some more and bought CS at the following store: http://www.ping.be/buysen/colloidaal_zilver.html It is a product of the following company: http://www.dnhresearch.nl/index-e.htm And this is their description of the product: http://www.dnhresearch.nl/ProTOsilver_e.htm It's only 1ppm according to the bottle itself and I read everywhere that it should be 5ppm or more. Furthermore it costs about 35 EURO's (or DOLLARS) for 500ml. I distrust the quality of the product as: * a pharmaceutical company may produce a non-working product just to keep the conventional pharma-industry going. * I don't know what is really inside the bottle. I used this CS that I bought, but did not really notice a big difference. I also did not feel the "burning" sensation in my noise nor did my nose became dry. After reading alot about CS, I wanted to make my own CS to be sure about the components. So I ordered the "Colloïdaalzilvergenerator voor zelfbouw. Nieuw m.i.v.30-9-2003" from http://www.colloidaalzilver.nl/ As I gather from his website, he is an acupuncturist. When I asked him how I could be sure if it is real 99,9% silver, the answer was: "It's a matter of trust". I did not find any other source for the silver electrodes of which I could be more sure, so I bought the generator. When I took the first 3 coffee-spoons of my home-made CS around 22h, I went to sleep but woke up around 03h with a feeling that I was gowing to throw up. (I used Aqua Purificata for the CS by the way). I did not eat very much the day before, so that could be the cause. I'm now 3 days further but I still have a "hungry" sensation in my stomach altough I eat alot. Now, I don't know if the CS was the cause and if it is to be trusted. Is it real silver or not? I went to a jeweler and asked how I could test if it is 99,9% silver. He tested it quickly by scratching it to some kind of surface and dripped some kind of fluid over it and said it was no silver at all. After explaining the situation to him, he said he could not/did not want to make a judgement about it. He knew about 2 methods that cost 50 EUROS/DOLLARS or 100 EUROS/DOLLARS depending on the method (one was a lab analysis). I ordered 1 meter of 2mm thick 99,9% silver from this jeweler. He told me it was 99,9% because he uses it to add to gold. He gets it in grain form and will melt it for me. I hope I can trust him... PS: I'm not yet sure that the CS electrode I bought is not 99,9% silver, so I'm not blaming http://www.colloidaalzilver.nl/ that it is not selling correct silver! I just don't know and that is a problem to me. I just don't want ot be using heavy metals or something else that is toxic. Thanks in advance, Filip Hoeven
CS>Stomach-problems when using CS?
Hi, Did anyone experience problems with their stomach after using CS for the first time? I've got problems with my stomach since one week now. I used a 1ppm CS solution that I bought before and did not experience any problems at all. Afterwards, I bought a "simple" generator that mainly consists out of 2 silver electrodes (at least I hope it really is 99,9% silver) connected to a 24Volt net adaptor with at one side a resistor of about 820 Ohm. I placed the two electrodes in about 500ml Aqua Purificata (room temperature of about 22 Celsius) for about 50 minutes. I took 3 coffee spoons of that generated CS around 22h, at about 02h I woke up with a feeling that I was about to throw up. I did not throw up however. Now it's one week later and I still have a "hungry" and sometimes "throw-up" feeling in my stomach. Yesterday evening it was near "throwing-up" again. So I went to my physician (a homeopath wit a physician degree) that gave me 2 homeopathic pills to "detox" my body. I asked if it could be stomach flu or something like that, but he would guess the cause was the homemade CS that I took. That there was something wrong with that solution. Kind regards, Filip
Re: CS>Stomach-problems when using CS?
> What is Aqua Purificata? Aqua Purificata is destilled water. > If it's not distilled water, 50 minutes with no controls can give > you huge PPM and who knows what else. What do you mean with "no controls"? Does your CS-generator has something to check the PPM and if it does, do you know how that check works and/or if the check is trustworthy? STATUS UPDATE: I went to a stomach specialist and told him the whole story. Ofcourse he did not even know what CS is (nor did the 2 other physicians). I had a stomach check with a camera that they insert orally. Nothing bad to report, a little bit irritation of the stomach, which could be from a viral infection too, so this does not need to be from the home-made CS (but it still could be) Just wait for about 2 weeks was the answer. Except if I would get other complaints or my stomach would begin to hurt instead of just a "I have ti thow up" feeling. Just be safe and for peace of mind I went for a blood and urine test today. I should have the results early next week. Kind regards, Filip
