Re: CS>Parameters

[Ode Coyote]

  Increase the change time to around 1 to 3 minutes...or more.
Putting a voltmeter or ammeter on the cell and plotting the readouts will 
tell you why.

Ode


At 12:40 PM 10/13/2006 +0200, you wrote:


Greetings to all,

I am trying to produce ionic silver of the best quality
& am having great difficulty in the time required to make a 10ppm
solution.   It seems too much long.   I am using a 100mA transformer
 with a 30v DC supply
& sheet electrodes of about 6 sq. ins on one side of one electrode.
Naturally I use 2 electrodes of the same size.

To emulate some of the manufacturers who are on the Internet
I am using current control at 10mA  & polarity change at
3 second intervals .  Polarity exchange seems to have been the
 main cause of the time extension.  Current control is based
on about 0.8 mA per sq. inch of both sides of the one electrode.
I am using polarity change because of the lack of sludge .

Using distilled water as a starting point it can take up to
24 hours to reach this level.   Using a starting solution of one litre, a 
quart,

 with the addition of 10% of a 10ppm ionic silver solution this time is
cut down to about  12 hours.  A clear solution is obtained &
measured with a Hanna PWT meter.

My feeling is that I must have made an incorrect assumption
of  one or more of the parameters so I would appreciate
informed & practical advice.   Direct access is at
ju...@cybersmart.co.za  & I am most 
happy to hear directly

from  anyone.


Regards to you all.
Julius Kabrun


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Re: CS>Parameters

[Sam Mureno]

Hi Julius.
I suspect the 3 second polarity change is causing the time extension. Try
30-45 seconds, that should speed things up. What are you using for striring?



Sam L.

On 10/13/06, Julius Kabrun  wrote:


 Greetings to all,

I am trying to produce ionic silver of the best quality
& am having great difficulty in the time required to make a 10ppm
solution.   It seems too much long.   I am using a 100mA transformer
 with a 30v DC supply
& sheet electrodes of about 6 sq. ins on one side of one electrode.
Naturally I use 2 electrodes of the same size.

To emulate some of the manufacturers who are on the Internet
I am using current control at 10mA  & polarity change at
3 second intervals .  Polarity exchange seems to have been the
 main cause of the time extension.  Current control is based
on about 0.8 mA per sq. inch of both sides of the one electrode.
I am using polarity change because of the lack of sludge .

Using distilled water as a starting point it can take up to
24 hours to reach this level.   Using a starting solution of one litre, a
quart,
 with the addition of 10% of a 10ppm ionic silver solution this time is
cut down to about  12 hours.  A clear solution is obtained &
measured with a Hanna PWT meter.

My feeling is that I must have made an incorrect assumption
of  one or more of the parameters so I would appreciate
informed & practical advice.   Direct access is at
ju...@cybersmart.co.za  & I am most happy to hear directly
from  anyone.


Regards to you all.
Julius Kabrun


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RE: CS>Parameters

[Dan Nave]

The volume of water in your production cell is directly related to the
time it will take to reach a particular ppm concentration of silver.
 
I believe that a 3 second rate for polarity switching would make the
process so inefficient that it would not work very well.  Which, I
believe, is your experience.  My inquiries about switching times have
always gotten the response that a 60 second switching rate is optimal.
You may need some stirring as well...
 
Dan




From: Julius Kabrun [mailto:ju...@cybersmart.co.za] 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Parameters


Greetings to all,

I am trying to produce ionic silver of the best quality 
& am having great difficulty in the time required to make a 10ppm 
solution.   It seems too much long.   I am using a 100mA transformer
 with a 30v DC supply
& sheet electrodes of about 6 sq. ins on one side of one electrode.
Naturally I use 2 electrodes of the same size.   

To emulate some of the manufacturers who are on the Internet 
I am using current control at 10mA  & polarity change at 
3 second intervals .  Polarity exchange seems to have been the
 main cause of the time extension.  Current control is based 
on about 0.8 mA per sq. inch of both sides of the one electrode.
I am using polarity change because of the lack of sludge .  

Using distilled water as a starting point it can take up to 
24 hours to reach this level.   Using a starting solution of one litre,
a quart, 
 with the addition of 10% of a 10ppm ionic silver solution this time is 
cut down to about  12 hours.  A clear solution is obtained & 
measured with a Hanna PWT meter.

My feeling is that I must have made an incorrect assumption 
of  one or more of the parameters so I would appreciate 
informed & practical advice.   Direct access is at 
ju...@cybersmart.co.za  & I am most happy to hear directly
from  anyone.


Regards to you all.
Julius Kabrun

CS>Parameters

[Julius Kabrun]

Greetings to all,

I am trying to produce ionic silver of the best quality 
& am having great difficulty in the time required to make a 10ppm 
solution.   It seems too much long.   I am using a 100mA transformer
 with a 30v DC supply
& sheet electrodes of about 6 sq. ins on one side of one electrode.
Naturally I use 2 electrodes of the same size.   

To emulate some of the manufacturers who are on the Internet 
I am using current control at 10mA  & polarity change at 
3 second intervals .  Polarity exchange seems to have been the
 main cause of the time extension.  Current control is based 
on about 0.8 mA per sq. inch of both sides of the one electrode.
I am using polarity change because of
the lack of sludge .  

Using distilled water as a starting
point it can take up to 
24 hours to reach this level.   Using a starting solution of one litre,
a quart, 
 with the addition of 10% of a 10ppm ionic silver solution this time is

cut down to about  12 hours.  A clear solution is obtained & 
measured with a Hanna PWT meter.

My feeling is that I must have made an incorrect assumption 
of  one or more of the parameters so I would appreciate 
informed & practical advice.   Direct access is at 
ju...@cybersmart.co.za  & I am most happy to hear directly
from  anyone.


Regards to you all.
Julius Kabrun







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