Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-30 Thread sol

Guyot Léna wrote:

Hi Mike,
How long after one has put DMSO on skin would it still have carrying 
potential? EG., if I put DMSO and CS on a wound on my hand and later 
wanted to put regular hand lotion on for cold-weather chapping.

Thanks and be well,
Léna
From veterinary experience a friend of mine had with artemesinin as 
cancer treatment on a pet, DMSO causes the skin to remain permeable for 
at least a full hour after application. In this particular treatment, a 
50/50 mix of DMSO and distilled water was applied to the area to be 
treated, then allowed to dry for an hour. After the hour, the 
artemesinin was applied, and it absorbed into the skin.


I used to have photos of the artemesinin application and then a photo of 
it at 1 hour post application. If you want to see them I can try to find 
them and send to you.


FWIW, years ago I read somewhere that the skin permeability from DMSO 
lasts around 2 hours. Don't remember where I read it, though, but I have 
always gone by that timing if I was at all unsure of any ingredient in 
anything I was applying after DMSO. Personally, the only thing I apply 
to skin immediately after or within 2 hours of using DMSO is pure virgin 
coconut oil, but that is my own personal preference and usage.

sol


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Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-30 Thread sol

addendum:

I should add, it was the vet in the case mentioned below who came up 
with the info that DMSO leaves the skin much more permeable for an hour 
post application of DMSO.


I was wrong about the herbal treatment: it was ARTEMETHER, not artemesinin.

The photos are to be found at:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
If you are a list member of Silver Pets you can view by clicking on 
Photos in the menu in the column on the left. The Photos are titled 
Artemether.

If you have any trouble email me directly.
sol


sol wrote:
I used to have photos of the artemesinin application and then a photo 
of it at 1 hour post application. If you want to see them I can try to 
find them and send to you.



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Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-30 Thread Guyot Léna

Thanks Sol,
This is very helpful.
I don't want to put you out, but if you ever do find the photos, I'd  
be interested.


Meanwhile, I'll observe the two-hour wait. Sonfs good.
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:13 AM, sol wrote:

Guyot Léna wrote:

Hi Mike,
How long after one has put DMSO on skin would it still have carrying  
potential? EG., if I put DMSO and CS on a wound on my hand and later  
wanted to put regular hand lotion on for cold-weather chapping.

Thanks and be well,
Léna
From veterinary experience a friend of mine had with artemesinin as  
cancer treatment on a pet, DMSO causes the skin to remain permeable  
for at least a full hour after application. In this particular  
treatment, a 50/50 mix of DMSO and distilled water was applied to the  
area to be treated, then allowed to dry for an hour. After the hour,  
the artemesinin was applied, and it absorbed into the skin.


I used to have photos of the artemesinin application and then a photo  
of it at 1 hour post application. If you want to see them I can try to  
find them and send to you.


FWIW, years ago I read somewhere that the skin permeability from DMSO  
lasts around 2 hours. Don't remember where I read it, though, but I  
have always gone by that timing if I was at all unsure of any  
ingredient in anything I was applying after DMSO. Personally, the only  
thing I apply to skin immediately after or within 2 hours of using  
DMSO is pure virgin coconut oil, but that is my own personal  
preference and usage.

sol


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Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-27 Thread M. G. Devour
 Hi Mike,
 How long after one has put DMSO on skin would it still have carrying
 potential? EG., if I put DMSO and CS on a wound on my hand and later
 wanted to put regular hand lotion on for cold-weather chapping. Thanks
 and be well, Léna

I don't really have enough knowledge of its action to say for sure. I
would imagine that Sandy's suggestion (when it's dry) is probably safe.

I notice that it does remain tacky or a bit damp feeling for quite a
while, moreso than just with water.

Peace,

Mike D.

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Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-27 Thread Guyot Léna

Thanks Mike,
Your post is reassuring. I have psoriasis which is responding well to  
a mix of gotu kola tincture, DMSO, glycerin and Lugol's. I use this on  
all my patches at night and many during the day, but there are some on  
my face and forearms that I'd like to cover with make-up in the  
daytime. Obviously i don't want the make-up (no matter how clean they  
claim it is) to be carried in, so have wondered if I should wash off  
the mixture first, or let it reamin as a remedial layer beneath the  
cover-up.


Be well,
Léna


On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:51 PM, M. G. Devour wrote:


Hi Mike,
How long after one has put DMSO on skin would it still have carrying
potential? EG., if I put DMSO and CS on a wound on my hand and later
wanted to put regular hand lotion on for cold-weather chapping. Thanks
and be well, Léna


I don't really have enough knowledge of its action to say for sure. I
would imagine that Sandy's suggestion (when it's dry) is probably safe.

I notice that it does remain tacky or a bit damp feeling for quite a
while, moreso than just with water.

Peace,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS[List Owner] A few things...DMSO timing

2011-01-26 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Mike,
How long after one has put DMSO on skin would it still have carrying  
potential? EG., if I put DMSO and CS on a wound on my hand and later  
wanted to put regular hand lotion on for cold-weather chapping.

Thanks and be well,
Léna

On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:53 PM, M. G. Devour wrote:

Hi folks,

First, a reminder to those who are experimenting with DMSO:

If anything you mix with it is made up of small enough molecules, it
WILL go directly into the cells of your body. If it is toxic, you could
have an extremely dangerous situation.

So, make sure you KNOW what's in any ingredients you add to a
preparation containing DMSO. If you cannot be sure that it is either
safe to transport directly into every cell of your body, or certain
that it is too big to be transported, DON'T TAKE THE CHANCE.

Please.

If anybody thinks I'm overstating the danger, please let me know.

As for the, ahem, impolite exit of one member a couple of days ago, my
apologies. After all that they seemed to have managed to get
*themselves* unsubscribed... which I find amusing.

Normally if I detect anybody having difficulties I can deal with them
in a timely fashion. This one apparently didn't manage to do anything
to stand out from the spam in my in-box... y'know, like e-mailing the
list owner or something... sigh

Another item, briefly: Please refrain from comments regarding your
negative feelings towards other list members. I do NOT want to hear
such remarks on the list. You're welcome to leave if you find the
company unappealing.

If you have such concerns you cannot deal with on your own, please
contact me to discuss them. If there's anything I can do to help, I
will consider it.

Finally, let's not get too involved in talking about... ummm, lessee...
oh, how 'bout aliens? Thanks!

Mike D.
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