Re: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

2012-10-15 Thread Marshall
 the silver 
in the water.  The action is the same whether we are talking about a 
silver particle that is sitting on the anode from reducing silver oxide 
from the previous half cycle, or the virgin silver of the electrode itself.


Marshall

Perhaps one needs a very good grounding in chemistry to understand 
what's going on?  I certainly haven't got that!


Not sure if anyone sees where I'm going with this in my non chemistry 
explanations? .


N.


From: h.godav...@shaw.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:38:21 -0500
Subject: Re: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

You braught up an interesting point. Next time I brew some CS , i will 
watch the process and storage bit.Until recently i made enough for a 
few weeks of irregular usage and did not have to think about storing 
for long times. Thanks for the idea.


regards
hg

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From: Neville Munn 
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012 7:09 am
Subject: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 

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RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

2012-10-12 Thread Neville Munn

I've usually got 3 x 1200ml glass containers in storage.  Whilst drawing from 
one for my daily morning ritual, by the time I get through to the last 
container it's probly taken a couple of months or more @ approx 30ml a day.
I just wondered about that polarity reversal thing.
Not saying anything negative about auto polarity reversal I hope everyone 
understands, just wondering about the chemistry if electrodes are never removed 
during production process?  No matter how minute the oxides or whatever develop 
on electrodes between that polarity switching, it must end up in the solution 
on reversal when it is automatically 'removed?' from those electrodes?  If 
nothing is observable with that solution over time, then some chemistry action 
must be occurring during each polarity reversal which has an impact on the Ag+ 
ions within that solution whilst brewing.
My way of explanation:  No matter what one does, there will always be some 
oxides or whatever develop on the electrodes, this is what we normally remove 
from the electrodes when we wipe them clean at regular timed intervals on a non 
auto polarity reversal unit, now because we cannot prevent those oxides etc 
from developing the aforesaid must go somewhere no matter how minute it might 
be.  If that doesn't have some effect on the Ag+ ions in solution encouraging 
larger particles as the solution stabilises over time, or result in a thin film 
of silver on the surface, then I'm just curious to understand the chemistry 
behind it?

Simple Example:  Let's say it takes 1 1/2 hours to brew a solution to an 
individuals desired ppm, now if those electrodes were not to be removed for 
that length of time there would be a considerable amount of oxides or whatever 
appear on that electrode as the deposition of silver into the water increases 
to desired ppm level.  On an auto polarity reversal unit those electrodes are 
not 'physically' removed to be cleaned, so whatever appears {not visible to 
naked eye perhaps} on the electrode must be removed and returned to the water 
upon each reversal of polarity?
If that doesn't result in *some?* settling or sediment, or produce a fine layer 
of silver on the surface of the solution becoming evident over time in storage, 
then some chemistry must be taking place with those Ag+ ions already in 
existence in that solution, combined with those oxides whilst in the brewing 
process?  Those Ag+ ions increase exponentially over brewing time until desired 
ppm level is attained.  If that minute amount of oxides or whatever are 
introduced into the water at each polarity reversal, then why does that not 
promote larger particles for gravity to pull out or a fine silver layer to 
appear on the surface after being in storage for any length of time, I'm just 
curious as to know why?
Perhaps one needs a very good grounding in chemistry to understand what's going 
on?  I certainly haven't got that!
Not sure if anyone sees where I'm going with this in my non chemistry 
explanations? .
N.

From: h.godav...@shaw.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:38:21 -0500
Subject: Re: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

You braught up an interesting point. Next time I brew some CS , i will watch 
the process and storage bit.Until recently i made enough for a few weeks of 
irregular usage and did not have to think about storing for long times. Thanks 
for the idea.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn 
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012 7:09 am
Subject: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 

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Re: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

2012-10-12 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
You braught up an interesting point. Next time I brew some CS , i will watch 
the process and storage bit.Until recently i made enough for a few weeks of 
irregular usage and did not have to think about storing for long times. Thanks 
for the idea.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn 
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012 7:09 am
Subject: RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 

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> That's fine HG, I use DW also.  I'm just trying to satisfy 
> my curiosity about the auto polarity reversal business.
> N.
> 
> From: zzekel...@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:58:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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> In a message dated 10/11/2012 7:02:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
> Time, 
> h.godav...@shaw.ca writes:
> No. 
>   Never  but then I have always used distilled 
>   water.
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> regards
> hg
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> - Original Message -
> From: 
>   Neville Munn 
> Date: Thursday, October 11, 
>   2012 5:02 pm
> Subject: RE: CS>Beck blood purifier
> To: 
>   "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
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> > 
>   
> > Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any 
>   time...Yes/No?
> > N.
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 
>   +0100
> > From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: CS>Beck 
>   blood purifier
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > 
> > Same 
>   here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its 
> > always been 
>   nice and clear.  On occasion I do have to clean 
> > the silver rods, 
>   but nothing serious.
> > zoe
> > 
> > 
>   From: MaryAnn Helland 
>   
> >  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   
> >  Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
> >  Subject: 
>   Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
> >    
> > Ditto here.  
>   My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses 
> > polarity on a set 
>   schedule.  My EIS is always crystal 
> > clear, with no residues, and 
>   minimal discoloration of the electrodes.
> > MA
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> > 
> > From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
>   
> > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
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> > Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 
>   AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
> > 
> > I cannot 
>   see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I 
> > don’t get any 
>   dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in 
> > fact.  dee
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RE: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

2012-10-12 Thread Neville Munn




That's fine HG, I use DW also.  I'm just trying to satisfy my curiosity about 
the auto polarity reversal business.
N.

From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:58:18 -0400
Subject: Re: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com







In a message dated 10/11/2012 7:02:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
h.godav...@shaw.ca writes:
No. 
  Never  but then I have always used distilled 
  water.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From: 
  Neville Munn 
Date: Thursday, October 11, 
  2012 5:02 pm
Subject: RE: CS>Beck blood purifier
To: 
  "silver-list@eskimo.com" 

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> 
  
> Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any 
  time...Yes/No?
> N.
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 
  +0100
> From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: CS>Beck 
  blood purifier
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> Same 
  here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its 
> always been 
  nice and clear.  On occasion I do have to clean 
> the silver rods, 
  but nothing serious.
> zoe
> 
> 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  
>  Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
>  Subject: 
  Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
>
> Ditto here.  
  My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses 
> polarity on a set 
  schedule.  My EIS is always crystal 
> clear, with no residues, and 
  minimal discoloration of the electrodes.
> MA
> 
> 
> 
  
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> 
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
  
> Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 
  AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
> 
> I cannot 
  see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I 
> don’t get any 
  dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in 
> fact.  dee
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Re: CS> Dark oxides in forming in CS

2012-10-12 Thread ZZekelink
 
In a message dated 10/11/2012 7:02:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
h.godav...@shaw.ca writes:

No.  Never  but then I have always used distilled  water.

regards
hg

- Original Message -
From:  Neville Munn 
Date: Thursday, October 11,  2012 5:02 pm
Subject: RE: CS>Beck blood purifier
To:  "silver-list@eskimo.com" 

> 
>  
> Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any  time...Yes/No?
> N.
> 
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02  +0100
> From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: CS>Beck  blood purifier
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> Same  here,  Ive used a silver puppy for years and its 
> always been  nice and clear.  On occasion I do have to clean 
> the silver rods,  but nothing serious.
> zoe
> 
>  From: MaryAnn Helland  
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
>  Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05
>  Subject:  Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
>
> Ditto here.   My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses 
> polarity on a set  schedule.  My EIS is always crystal 
> clear, with no residues, and  minimal discoloration of the electrodes.
> MA
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
> Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43  AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Beck blood purifier
> 
> I cannot  see this.  My Puppy has reverse polarity and I 
> don’t get any  dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in 
> fact.  dee
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