Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-02 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It never ceases to amaze me all the clever little devils we have on this list!  
dee

On 2 Feb 2010, at 12:55, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
>  Ozone will also eat the rubber cord right off your hand drill.
> It will attack and oxidize virtually any organic molecule...healthy cells as 
> well as germs and unhealthy cells.  The healthy cells are a bit more 
> resilient, but not impervious.
> Not saying that using a sand blaster can't be useful if a surface needs to 
> grow a new coat...just apply common sense and be aware that Ozone doesn't do 
> a whole lot of discriminating.
> Chlorine Dioxide gas, a much more selective Oxidizer, [Made on site from 
> Sodium Chlorite] was used to sterilize offices after the Anthrax 
> attacks..because..Ozone was considered too corrosive for the office equipment 
> to survive the cleanup.
> 
> There is a big difference between  Oxidation and Oxygenation. , though I 
> suppose at very low concentrations an Oxidizer could possibly Oxygenate 
> somewhere under the level of  "burning something up".
> 
> The FDAs concern is that *Mo-be-betta* thang where ignorance, a lack of 
> common sense and due caution turns into a real problem.  The potential for 
> real damage is there, for sure.
> [And anyone who looks into it enough to know about Ozone and NOT be ignorant, 
> can do an end run around the FDA. ]
> 
> Being corrosive, it also tells it's own story.
> If the Ozone concentration irritates and makes you choke the least little 
> bit...that's TOO MUCH and you are literally  burning your lungs out...but 
> then...   a judiciously applied TORCH can clean off the old paint without 
> "badly" scorching the wood under it.
> And if an Ozone Generating source is fed by damp airdry air fed, going 
> into damp air,  the formation of some amount of Nitric Acid is just about a 
> certainty...again.."how much" counts and some methods produce less. [ A pure 
> Oxygen feed produces none, using any method. ]
> 
> Lastly, Ozone is Ozone is Ozone.  There's no such thing as "good" Ozone 
> compared to "bad" Ozone.
> Any difference would have to do with Nitric Acid concentration.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-02 Thread Ode Coyote



  Ozone will also eat the rubber cord right off your hand drill.
It will attack and oxidize virtually any organic molecule...healthy cells 
as well as germs and unhealthy cells.  The healthy cells are a bit more 
resilient, but not impervious.
 Not saying that using a sand blaster can't be useful if a surface needs 
to grow a new coat...just apply common sense and be aware that Ozone 
doesn't do a whole lot of discriminating.
 Chlorine Dioxide gas, a much more selective Oxidizer, [Made on site from 
Sodium Chlorite] was used to sterilize offices after the Anthrax 
attacks..because..Ozone was considered too corrosive for the office 
equipment to survive the cleanup.


There is a big difference between  Oxidation and Oxygenation. , though I 
suppose at very low concentrations an Oxidizer could possibly Oxygenate 
somewhere under the level of  "burning something up".


The FDAs concern is that *Mo-be-betta* thang where ignorance, a lack of 
common sense and due caution turns into a real problem.  The potential for 
real damage is there, for sure.
[And anyone who looks into it enough to know about Ozone and NOT be 
ignorant, can do an end run around the FDA. ]


Being corrosive, it also tells it's own story.
 If the Ozone concentration irritates and makes you choke the least little 
bit...that's TOO MUCH and you are literally  burning your lungs out...but 
then...   a judiciously applied TORCH can clean off the old paint without 
"badly" scorching the wood under it.
 And if an Ozone Generating source is fed by damp airdry air fed, 
going into damp air,  the formation of some amount of Nitric Acid is just 
about a certainty...again.."how much" counts and some methods produce less. 
[ A pure Oxygen feed produces none, using any method. ]


 Lastly, Ozone is Ozone is Ozone.  There's no such thing as "good" Ozone 
compared to "bad" Ozone.

Any difference would have to do with Nitric Acid concentration.

Ode



At 04:16 PM 2/1/2010 -0500, you wrote:

Rusty:

Ozone creates more oxygen in your drinking water and many diseases cannot 
take hold in the "face" of a highly oxygenated body.   Especially 
cancer.  And some use it in the treatment of cancer.  I use a portable 
ozonator for this purpose.


Ozone is also used in air cleaners for homes and automobiles.  I have one 
in my car and several at home. A large air cleaner for the larger living 
areas that runs day and night all winter because I can't open the windows 
for fresh air.  i keep a small air cleaner in each smaller room - my 
office, my music studio, my wet darkroom and in my bedroom.   Again, it 
kills bacteria that may be in the air of your home.  It always smells like 
a fresh rain storm just cleared the air whenever I walk in the door of my 
home - or drive anywhere.


John

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rusty Moncrief 
<<mailto:sinso...@hotmail.com>sinso...@hotmail.com> wrote:

How is one of these devices beneficial?

Thanks in advance,

Rusty


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Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
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Typical big brother!  dee

On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:

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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-01 Thread John E. Stevens
Hi, Bob:

Thanks.  There are two settings on my ozoners.  One is for when you are away
and one for when I'm home.  I'll check the details in my "direction" book,
again to make sure I'm using it properly.

Thanks, again.

John

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:

>  John,
>
>  Although ozone does indeed kill virus, bacteria, and mold, it can also
> oxidize sensitive tissues such as the lining of your lungs, your eyes, and
> other mucous membranes, especially those that have alot of bacteria in
> them.  Be very careful... most recommend that you not run ozone generators
> while you are home, but turn them on when you are away.  Dogs and cats are
> even more sensitive to the oxidative qualities, so be careful.
>
>  Bob
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* John E. Stevens 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 1:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
>
> Rusty:
>
> Ozone creates more oxygen in your drinking water and many diseases cannot
> take hold in the "face" of a highly oxygenated body.   Especially cancer.
> And some use it in the treatment of cancer.  I use a portable ozonator for
> this purpose.
>
> Ozone is also used in air cleaners for homes and automobiles.  I have one
> in my car and several at home. A large air cleaner for the larger living
> areas that runs day and night all winter because I can't open the windows
> for fresh air.  i keep a small air cleaner in each smaller room - my office,
> my music studio, my wet darkroom and in my bedroom.   Again, it kills
> bacteria that may be in the air of your home.  It always smells like a fresh
> rain storm just cleared the air whenever I walk in the door of my home - or
> drive anywhere.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rusty Moncrief wrote:
>
>> How is one of these devices beneficial?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>> --
>> Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
>> From: d...@deetroy.org
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:53:38 +
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>
>> Typical big brother!  dee
>>
>>  On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:
>>
>>  http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* martsmai...@aol.com
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
>> *Subject:* CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?
>>
>>
>> author
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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Banever
John,

 Although ozone does indeed kill virus, bacteria, and mold, it can also 
oxidize sensitive tissues such as the lining of your lungs, your eyes, and 
other mucous membranes, especially those that have alot of bacteria in them.  
Be very careful... most recommend that you not run ozone generators while you 
are home, but turn them on when you are away.  Dogs and cats are even more 
sensitive to the oxidative qualities, so be careful.

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: John E. Stevens 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators


  Rusty:

  Ozone creates more oxygen in your drinking water and many diseases cannot 
take hold in the "face" of a highly oxygenated body.   Especially cancer.  And 
some use it in the treatment of cancer.  I use a portable ozonator for this 
purpose.

  Ozone is also used in air cleaners for homes and automobiles.  I have one in 
my car and several at home. A large air cleaner for the larger living areas 
that runs day and night all winter because I can't open the windows for fresh 
air.  i keep a small air cleaner in each smaller room - my office, my music 
studio, my wet darkroom and in my bedroom.   Again, it kills bacteria that may 
be in the air of your home.  It always smells like a fresh rain storm just 
cleared the air whenever I walk in the door of my home - or drive anywhere.  

  John


  On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rusty Moncrief  wrote:

How is one of these devices beneficial?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Rusty
 


    Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
From: d...@deetroy.org
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:53:38 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Typical big brother!  dee 


On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:


  http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?



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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-01 Thread John E. Stevens
Rusty:

Ozone creates more oxygen in your drinking water and many diseases cannot
take hold in the "face" of a highly oxygenated body.   Especially cancer.
And some use it in the treatment of cancer.  I use a portable ozonator for
this purpose.

Ozone is also used in air cleaners for homes and automobiles.  I have one in
my car and several at home. A large air cleaner for the larger living areas
that runs day and night all winter because I can't open the windows for
fresh air.  i keep a small air cleaner in each smaller room - my office, my
music studio, my wet darkroom and in my bedroom.   Again, it kills bacteria
that may be in the air of your home.  It always smells like a fresh rain
storm just cleared the air whenever I walk in the door of my home - or drive
anywhere.

John

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Rusty Moncrief  wrote:

>  How is one of these devices beneficial?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rusty
>
> ------------------
> Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
> From: d...@deetroy.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:53:38 +
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Typical big brother!  dee
>
>  On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:
>
>  http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* martsmai...@aol.com
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
> *Subject:* CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?
>
>
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>
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RE: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-02-01 Thread Rusty Moncrief

How is one of these devices beneficial?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Rusty
 


Subject: Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators
From: d...@deetroy.org
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:53:38 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Typical big brother!  dee



On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:


http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm

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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-01-30 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Typical big brother!  dee

On 30 Jan 2010, at 04:56, Bob Banever wrote:

> http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
> - Original Message -
> From: martsmai...@aol.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
> Subject: CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?
> 
>  
> author
>  
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Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-01-30 Thread John E. Stevens
The FDA ain't gonna' get my portable ozonator...  No way!

John

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Bob Banever wrote:

>  http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* martsmai...@aol.com
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
> *Subject:* CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?
>
>
> author
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > EATING FRUIT...
> >
> >
> >
> > It's long but very informative
> >
> >
> >
> > We all think eating fruits means just buying fruits, cutting it and just
> > popping it into our mouths. It's not as easy as you think. It's
> > important to know how and when to eat.
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the correct way of eating fruits?
> >
> >
> >
> > IT MEANS NOT EATING FRUITS AFTER YOUR MEALS! * FRUITS SHOULD BE EATEN ON
> > AN-EMPTY STOMACH.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you eat fruit like that, it will play a major role to detoxify your
> > system, supplying you with a great deal of energy for weight loss and
> > other life activities.
> >
> >
> >
> > FRUIT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOOD. Let's say you eat two slices of bread
> > and then a slice of fruit. The slice of fruit is ready to go straight
> > through the stomach into the intestines, but it is prevented from doing
> > so.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the meantime the whole meal rots and ferments and turns to acid. The
> > minute the fruit comes into contact with the food in the stomach and
> > digestive juices, the entire mass of food begins to spoil.
> >
> >
> >
> > So please eat your fruits on an empty stomach or before your meals! You
> > have heard people complaining - every time I eat watermelon I burp, when
> > I eat durian my stomach bloats up, when I eat a banana I feel like
> > running to the toilet etc - actually all this will not arise if you eat
> > the fruit on an empty stomach. The fruit mixes with the putrefying other
> > food and produces gas and hence you will bloat!
> >
> >
> >
> > Graying hair, balding, nervous outburst, and dark circles under the eyes
> > all these will NOT happen if you take fruits on an empty stomach.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no such thing as some fruits, like orange and lemon are acidic,
> > because all fruits become alkaline in our body, according to Dr..
> > Herbert Shelton who did research on this matter.  If you have mastered
> > the correct way of eating fruits, you have the Secret of beauty,
> > longevity, health, energy, happiness and normal weight.
> >
> >
> >
> > When you need to drink fruit juice - drink only fresh fruit juice, NOT
> > from the cans. Don't even drink juice that has been heated up. Don't eat
> > cooked fruits because you don't get the nutrients at all. You only get
> > to taste. Cooking destroys all the vitamins.
> >
> >
> >
> > But eating a whole fruit is better than drinking the juice.. If you
> > should drink the juice, drink it mouthful by mouthful slowly, because
> > you must let it mix with your saliva before swallowing it. You can go on
> > a 3-day fruit fast to cleanse your body. Just eat fruits and drink fruit
> > juice throughout the 3 days and you will be surprised when your friends
> > tell you how radiant you look!
> >
> >
> >
> > KIWI: Tiny but mighty. This is a good source of potassium, magnesium,
> > vitamin E & fiber. Its vitamin C content is twice that of an orange.
> >
> >
> >
> > APPLE: An apple a day keeps the doctor away? Although an apple has a low
> > vitamin C content, it has antioxidants & flavonoids which enhances the
> > activity of vitamin C thereby helping to lower the risks of colon
> > cancer, heart attack & stroke.
> >
> >
> >
> > STRAWBERRY: Protective Fruit. Strawberries have the highest total
> > antioxidant power among major fruits & protect the body from
> > cancer-causing, blood vessel-clogging free radicals.
> >
> >
> >
> > ORANGE : Sweetest medicine. Taking 2-4 oranges a day may help keep colds
> > away, lower cholesterol, prevent & dissolve kidney stones as well as
> > lessens the risk of colon cancer...
> >
> >
> >
> > WATERMELON: Coolest thirst quencher.. Composed of 92% water, it is also
> > packed with a giant dose of glutathione, which helps boost our immune
> > system. They are also a key source of lycopene - the cancer fighting
> > oxidant. Other nutrients found in watermelon are vitamin C & Potassium..
> >
> >
> >
> > GUAVA & PAPAYA: Top awards for vitamin C. They are the clear winners for
> > their high vitamin C content. Guava is also rich in fiber, which helps
> > prevent constipation. Papaya is rich in carotene; this is good f or your
> > eyes.
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Re: CS> Off Topic FDA Seizes Ozone Generators

2010-01-29 Thread Bob Banever
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm199322.htm
  - Original Message - 
  From: martsmai...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:22 PM
  Subject: CS> Off Topic Eating Fruit Author unknown?



  author



>  
> 
> EATING FRUIT...
> 
>  
> 
> It's long but very informative
> 
>  
> 
> We all think eating fruits means just buying fruits, cutting it and just
> popping it into our mouths. It's not as easy as you think. It's
> important to know how and when to eat.
> 
>  
> 
> What is the correct way of eating fruits?
> 
>  
> 
> IT MEANS NOT EATING FRUITS AFTER YOUR MEALS! * FRUITS SHOULD BE EATEN ON
> AN-EMPTY STOMACH.
> 
>  
> 
> If you eat fruit like that, it will play a major role to detoxify your
> system, supplying you with a great deal of energy for weight loss and
> other life activities.
> 
>  
> 
> FRUIT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOOD. Let's say you eat two slices of bread
> and then a slice of fruit. The slice of fruit is ready to go straight
> through the stomach into the intestines, but it is prevented from doing
> so.
> 
>  
> 
> In the meantime the whole meal rots and ferments and turns to acid. The
> minute the fruit comes into contact with the food in the stomach and
> digestive juices, the entire mass of food begins to spoil.
> 
>  
> 
> So please eat your fruits on an empty stomach or before your meals! You
> have heard people complaining - every time I eat watermelon I burp, when
> I eat durian my stomach bloats up, when I eat a banana I feel like
> running to the toilet etc - actually all this will not arise if you eat
> the fruit on an empty stomach. The fruit mixes with the putrefying other
> food and produces gas and hence you will bloat!
> 
>  
> 
> Graying hair, balding, nervous outburst, and dark circles under the eyes
> all these will NOT happen if you take fruits on an empty stomach.
> 
>  
> 
> There is no such thing as some fruits, like orange and lemon are acidic,
> because all fruits become alkaline in our body, according to Dr..
> Herbert Shelton who did research on this matter.  If you have mastered
> the correct way of eating fruits, you have the Secret of beauty,
> longevity, health, energy, happiness and normal weight.
> 
>  
> 
> When you need to drink fruit juice - drink only fresh fruit juice, NOT
> from the cans. Don't even drink juice that has been heated up. Don't eat
> cooked fruits because you don't get the nutrients at all. You only get
> to taste. Cooking destroys all the vitamins.
> 
>  
> 
> But eating a whole fruit is better than drinking the juice.. If you
> should drink the juice, drink it mouthful by mouthful slowly, because
> you must let it mix with your saliva before swallowing it. You can go on
> a 3-day fruit fast to cleanse your body. Just eat fruits and drink fruit
> juice throughout the 3 days and you will be surprised when your friends
> tell you how radiant you look!
> 
>  
> 
> KIWI: Tiny but mighty. This is a good source of potassium, magnesium,
> vitamin E & fiber. Its vitamin C content is twice that of an orange.
> 
>  
> 
> APPLE: An apple a day keeps the doctor away? Although an apple has a low
> vitamin C content, it has antioxidants & flavonoids which enhances the
> activity of vitamin C thereby helping to lower the risks of colon
> cancer, heart attack & stroke.
> 
>  
> 
> STRAWBERRY: Protective Fruit. Strawberries have the highest total
> antioxidant power among major fruits & protect the body from
> cancer-causing, blood vessel-clogging free radicals.
> 
>  
> 
> ORANGE : Sweetest medicine. Taking 2-4 oranges a day may help keep colds
> away, lower cholesterol, prevent & dissolve kidney stones as well as
> lessens the risk of colon cancer...
> 
>  
> 
> WATERMELON: Coolest thirst quencher.. Composed of 92% water, it is also
> packed with a giant dose of glutathione, which helps boost our immune
> system. They are also a key source of lycopene - the cancer fighting
> oxidant. Other nutrients found in watermelon are vitamin C & Potassium..
> 
>  
> 
> GUAVA & PAPAYA: Top awards for vitamin C. They are the clear winners for
> their high vitamin C content. Guava is also rich in fiber, which helps
> prevent constipation. Papaya is rich in carotene; this is good f or your
> eyes.
> 
>  

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