Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Can you tell me how to reach Don Croft? m...@lcc.net - Original Message - From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP If you haven't already done so, try a zapper. Those gizmo's are regarded by my whole family with wonder --- they do so incredible much!! We got some from Don Croft as someone on the silver or rife list mentioned his right after I had decided to try one and didn't know which one to try. Others might be even better but I know his works. And they are pretty cheap. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Hi, Nicole! I dropped you a note about custom colostrum. There is another product my daughter had recently found to be helpful in an autoimmune disorder. It is called 714X . I have details if y=ou need them. Please advise. Dick dikm...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Nicole, I have Lyme arthritis and have help from CS and chicken cartilage supplement. Also on antibio long term. May try looking into Hulda clark's protocol on parasites. HTH Susan Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Nicole:O) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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I would recommend Beck's 4 step protocol, but you can use Clark's zapper instead of Beck's, plus MSM. Marshall sjlan...@aol.com wrote: Nicole, I have Lyme arthritis and have help from CS and chicken cartilage supplement. Also on antibio long term. May try looking into Hulda clark's protocol on parasites. HTH Susan Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Nicole:O) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Where can I find the 4 step protocal?? Nicole:o) Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: I would recommend Beck's 4 step protocol, but you can use Clark's zapper instead of Beck's, plus MSM. Marshall sjlan...@aol.com wrote: Nicole, I have Lyme arthritis and have help from CS and chicken cartilage supplement. Also on antibio long term. May try looking into Hulda clark's protocol on parasites. HTH Susan Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Nicole:O) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Nicole:O) Said: Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Fred replied: Nichole, I really think you have a sick wish, every message has the same mood that your body is attacking its self! (By the way you never answered my offer of (3) months free ionic Cs - another death wish? - I emailed 5 times!) (Don't feel bad, only one out of 6 actually replied to my second email and is getting product. For a while I believe your email box was full, as were a few of the others, but I tried!) Would you go to my web site http://www.health2us.com/faith.htm and read the simple little story of how I did faith healing and why you or someone you respect can do it for you? Read also my story on how to cure most back problems - it is a simple example of mind over matter and has worked for every one that tried it! A negative attitude will defeat any treatment, as only you cure yourself (others only help) - you have the ultimate choice of programming yourself to be sick or well! Even medical doctors agree that your attitude effects the treatment outcome! Cordially, Fred (P.S. the offer is still open, but I doubt it will help until you take a positive attitude!) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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My sister was only able to get rid of the neuro after adding the other 3 steps of Beck's protocol. Then it only took a week or so to pretty well get over her Lyme. She ended up at the same stage you seem to be at for months with CS only. Marshall Nicole Fraser wrote: Hi, Yes, I'm trying to be patient as hard as that may be. But I don't have any pain really...it's all neuro:0(. But I am going to do some other things along with the CS like the zapper and other products and I think I will start to be in a little better shape after that...there are so many helpful knowledgeable people here! :0) Nicole:O) tm4...@aol.com wrote: Nicole- As I'm trying to do, be patient with the CS. I've had lyme 3 years before treatment. 6 months of CS and just NOW starting to see results. Some days I feel like death even worse than lyme itself. Fevers,rashes,body odor that make wrestlers cry,fatique to the bone. E mail me privately if you need anything. P.S. Something that really helps my aching is add 1 cup apple cider vinegar to a bath. Soak 15 minutes. Hugs-- Tami m -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlis! t/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Hi, Yes, I'm trying to be patient as hard as that may be. But I don't have any pain really...it's all neuro:0(. But I am going to do some other things along with the CS like the zapper and other products and I think I will start to be in a little better shape after that...there are so many helpful knowledgeable people here! :0) Nicole:O) tm4...@aol.com wrote: Nicole- As I'm trying to do, be patient with the CS. I've had lyme 3 years before treatment. 6 months of CS and just NOW starting to see results. Some days I feel like death even worse than lyme itself. Fevers,rashes,body odor that make wrestlers cry,fatique to the bone. E mail me privately if you need anything. P.S. Something that really helps my aching is add 1 cup apple cider vinegar to a bath. Soak 15 minutes. Hugs-- Tami m -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Hmm..well a zapper is in the mail;0)...hehe Nicole:o) Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: My sister was only able to get rid of the neuro after adding the other 3 steps of Beck's protocol. Then it only took a week or so to pretty well get over her Lyme. She ended up at the same stage you seem to be at for months with CS only. Marshall Nicole Fraser wrote: Hi, Yes, I'm trying to be patient as hard as that may be. But I don't have any pain really...it's all neuro:0(. But I am going to do some other things along with the CS like the zapper and other products and I think I will start to be in a little better shape after that...there are so many helpful knowledgeable people here! :0) Nicole:O) tm4...@aol.com wrote: Nicole- As I'm trying to do, be patient with the CS. I've had lyme 3 years before treatment. 6 months of CS and just NOW starting to see results. Some days I feel like death even worse than lyme itself. Fevers,rashes,body odor that make wrestlers cry,fatique to the bone. E mail me privately if you need anything. P.S. Something that really helps my aching is add 1 cup apple cider vinegar to a bath. Soak 15 minutes. Hugs-- Tami m -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlis! t/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Hi Nicole, Cetyl Myristoleate refered to as (CMO) has been shown to act as a immunomodulator. Please feel free to contact me by privite email nat1...@usa.com and I will provide you with more info and sorces. TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Nicole- As I'm trying to do, be patient with the CS. I've had lyme 3 years before treatment. 6 months of CS and just NOW starting to see results. Some days I feel like death even worse than lyme itself. Fevers,rashes,body odor that make wrestlers cry,fatique to the bone. E mail me privately if you need anything. P.S. Something that really helps my aching is add 1 cup apple cider vinegar to a bath. Soak 15 minutes. Hugs-- Tami m -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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I have heard that an old gentleman in Minnesota had success in making a custom colostrum. His name was Herb Saunders. I understand he passed away earlier this year. At any rate, here is what he said he did. Herb says he took two fresh blood samples of 20 ml each and infused the rear two quarters of the udder of a cow, about forty to sixty days before the birth of the calf. The samples were infused through the milk channel of the teat. The cow responded by producing a custom colostrum built around the pathigens introduced in the blood samples. According to Herb, and I have not witnessed this myself, he never saw a condition that this did not make a signficant change in. He froze the colostrum as a precaution against harmful bacteria and then had the individual eat 4 ounces of the colostrum per day for 3.5 months. This is what I have read about Herb's process and pass it along as educational and informational material. I have also read that the FDA has implemented a law in 1997 that prohibits marketing custom colostrum, so this substance could not be legally sold. This is not intended to suggest or to make any medical claims or to suggest that this can help resolve any condition. I share only what I have read about Herb Saunders' approach, and that he believed it to have some significance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!
Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Nicole:O) - Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com account at Yahoo! Mail.
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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com wrote: Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver. You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon. Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc. Chuck A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. Robert Heinlein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Thank you but Marsha was the one who told me about the list and I have been on CS for 3 months now I think? ;0) Great stuff! I sure feel worse so it must be killing it..I try to be patient though... Nicole:O) cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser wrote: Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver. You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon. Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc. Chuck A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. Robert Heinlein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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Hi Nicole, I recently read an article that said that Chicken or Bovine Cartlidge can have a modulating effect on Autoimmune Disease. It might be worth a try, or of further investigation. Good Luck... Eric At 11:08 AM 12/27/99 -0800, you wrote: Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0) Any thoughts??? Nicole:O) Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com account at http://mail.yahoo.com/Yahoo! Mail.
