RE: CSBells Palsy
Garnet, I just wanted to let you know that after a couple weeks of taking what the doc gave me and going to the chiropractor who said he could help me with my bells palsy and everything staying the same, I finally found a local source of DMSO and I mixed 1 part DMSO with 2 parts CS and applied it to my face twice a day. By the second day the symptoms started going away! I am almost completely back to normal. I wish I would of used it earlier. The smell of the stuff really gags me but you do what you have to do. Thank you for providing so much good information on this list. I think you win as far as the number of posts. Not sure how you have time for anything else. All I know is you are a very valuable list member and I hope you never go away. Thanks again!! David --- Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: DMSO is a very good antinflammatory. Used orally or topically. I agree with the idea of compressing the area with DMSO CS, even adding some MSM. And would also do all three orally. I had Bell's Palsy when I was pregnant. Same symptoms, went to the ER and the doc met me there. She said it was due to the baby pressing on major nerves. It came and went for a few weeks. No virus involved, but I can see how a virus could cause pressure on the nerve and interfere with nerve function, effectively blocking the signal. I have had herpes on my mouth that made my whole face start throbbing up to my eyes. This was before I had started using CS. I took five 250 mg Olive Leaf capsules every hour for a coupel doses, then two hours for the rest of the day -- and anti-viral herbs like Lomatium and Hypericum (St John's Wort) to bring it and the nasty flu I had under control. I was feeling quite delerious and knew it was a bad flu bug that had super activated my herpes. I had it under control within a few hours. Sometimes you have to go with high doses and use what every antivirals are available. Glucagon is also useful as well as Colostrum. Donna at www.excellentthings.com has a fav brand of Transfer Factor, derived from Colostrum. Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 04:23, Dave Lewis wrote: Hi David, If it were me I would be taking anti-inflammatories. Steroids are a last resort in my book. If this is caused by a viral or bacterial infection you need your immune system to work at it's best. Steroids suppress the immune system.. I am not suggesting that this is your case, but one of the things said to cause bells palsy is HIV and AIDS. Imagine what would happen if you give an immune suppressant to someone with an already compromised immune system. Take a look at this link below. http://www.neurologychannel.com/bellspalsy/ http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068866/ I am not a doc, it is just my opinion and I am not telling you to stop any meds the doc has given you. I would keep taking whatever he has given you and go back and express the concern for the steroids. The use of steroids in Bells Palsy is said to aid the fullest recovery from the attack, but even then, it is still controversial. The other meds are possibly anti-virals. All the best and I hope you get better soon, Dave. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 18 October 2004 03:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
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That is wonderful news David! I am so happy for you. Thanks so much for the feedback. This is what makes it all worth while. As to why / how I can find the time to do what I do -- I was sick for five years, really sick from mold fume poisoning. I went to all the specialists in Dallas and Seattle. NONE of them had a clue, I found it in the medical literature and eventually figured out the sources in three different houses, all had mold in hidden places in large amounts. It really changed me, I was at the point of thinking I would never be well, or my family, it almost drove us insane and to the brink of financial ruin. Helping others, after doing an intense learning curve on top of my already alternative orientation, is healing me, simple. The paradigm of the wounded healer is applicable here. May I forward this to the DMSO list? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Garnet On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 07:46, David wrote: Garnet, I just wanted to let you know that after a couple weeks of taking what the doc gave me and going to the chiropractor who said he could help me with my bells palsy and everything staying the same, I finally found a local source of DMSO and I mixed 1 part DMSO with 2 parts CS and applied it to my face twice a day. By the second day the symptoms started going away! I am almost completely back to normal. I wish I would of used it earlier. The smell of the stuff really gags me but you do what you have to do. Thank you for providing so much good information on this list. I think you win as far as the number of posts. Not sure how you have time for anything else. All I know is you are a very valuable list member and I hope you never go away. Thanks again!! David --- Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: DMSO is a very good antinflammatory. Used orally or topically. I agree with the idea of compressing the area with DMSO CS, even adding some MSM. And would also do all three orally. I had Bell's Palsy when I was pregnant. Same symptoms, went to the ER and the doc met me there. She said it was due to the baby pressing on major nerves. It came and went for a few weeks. No virus involved, but I can see how a virus could cause pressure on the nerve and interfere with nerve function, effectively blocking the signal. I have had herpes on my mouth that made my whole face start throbbing up to my eyes. This was before I had started using CS. I took five 250 mg Olive Leaf capsules every hour for a coupel doses, then two hours for the rest of the day -- and anti-viral herbs like Lomatium and Hypericum (St John's Wort) to bring it and the nasty flu I had under control. I was feeling quite delerious and knew it was a bad flu bug that had super activated my herpes. I had it under control within a few hours. Sometimes you have to go with high doses and use what every antivirals are available. Glucagon is also useful as well as Colostrum. Donna at www.excellentthings.com has a fav brand of Transfer Factor, derived from Colostrum. Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 04:23, Dave Lewis wrote: Hi David, If it were me I would be taking anti-inflammatories. Steroids are a last resort in my book. If this is caused by a viral or bacterial infection you need your immune system to work at it's best. Steroids suppress the immune system.. I am not suggesting that this is your case, but one of the things said to cause bells palsy is HIV and AIDS. Imagine what would happen if you give an immune suppressant to someone with an already compromised immune system. Take a look at this link below. http://www.neurologychannel.com/bellspalsy/ http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068866/ I am not a doc, it is just my opinion and I am not telling you to stop any meds the doc has given you. I would keep taking whatever he has given you and go back and express the concern for the steroids. The use of steroids in Bells Palsy is said to aid the fullest recovery from the attack, but even then, it is still controversial. The other meds are possibly anti-virals. All the best and I hope you get better soon, Dave. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 18 October 2004 03:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people
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Sally, I don't know which one I was given. I was seeing 2 different chiro's at the time and I only have the notes from the one that didn't give me the shots. They were both quite old when I saw them back in '95 and the guy that gave me the shots has long retired and I don't know where he is. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 October 2004 22:47 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy Dave, were the shots with cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin, or do you know? Thanks,Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSBells Palsy
If you want to reduce inflamation, taking bromelain (a digestive enzyme extracted from the pineapple plant) when taken with water on an empty stomach is very effective. Easiest to take perhaps 500 gdu first thing in the morning and last thing at night, possibly once in the day also. I wouldn't keep up this dose for more than a week though... Dan CSBells Palsy From: bbanever (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:59:28 Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ok, thanks Dave. Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Sally, I don't know which one I was given. I was seeing 2 different chiro's at the time and I only have the notes from the one that didn't give me the shots. They were both quite old when I saw them back in '95 and the guy that gave me the shots has long retired and I don't know where he is. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 October 2004 22:47 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy Dave, were the shots with cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin, or do you know? Thanks,Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
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I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob
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Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob
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This List is the greatest! Thank you for all your thoughts and ideas. I am and will implement the ones I can. Over the last couple years I have been doing more then ever to keep myself healthy with diet, meditation, exercise, CS, etc, and now something like this happens. I guess no matter what you do and how healthy and indestructible you feel there is never a guarantee something won't happen to you. Thanks again for your help! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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B12 sublingual can be mixed with DMSO and applied topically once a month for 4-5 days to tank up your liver stores. I do this every month and it makes a huge difference in my energy level. My health has been better than it has been in 15 years, mostly due to using CS daily for the past year but the B12 energy boost is definitely noticeable. Garnet On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 04:33, Dave Lewis wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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There is always a lesson in every challenge David, something to be gained, no matter how painful. Does not make it fun but at least it is not just random chaos! Here's hoping some of these suggestions help! Garnet On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 05:16, David wrote: This List is the greatest! Thank you for all your thoughts and ideas. I am and will implement the ones I can. Over the last couple years I have been doing more then ever to keep myself healthy with diet, meditation, exercise, CS, etc, and now something like this happens. I guess no matter what you do and how healthy and indestructible you feel there is never a guarantee something won't happen to you. Thanks again for your help! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dave, were the shots with cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin, or do you know? Thanks,Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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- Original Message - From: twllLL twl...@direcway.com To: twllLL twl...@direcway.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: Re: CSBells Palsy Look at this about it. www.sdmmedia.com/askbillsardi/ocd3.pdf Its related to the herpes virus. this may help Quercetin - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy DMSO is a very good antinflammatory. Used orally or topically. I agree with the idea of compressing the area with DMSO CS, even adding some MSM. And would also do all three orally. I had Bell's Palsy when I was pregnant. Same symptoms, went to the ER and the doc met me there. She said it was due to the baby pressing on major nerves. It came and went for a few weeks. No virus involved, but I can see how a virus could cause pressure on the nerve and interfere with nerve function, effectively blocking the signal. I have had herpes on my mouth that made my whole face start throbbing up to my eyes. This was before I had started using CS. I took five 250 mg Olive Leaf capsules every hour for a coupel doses, then two hours for the rest of the day -- and anti-viral herbs like Lomatium and Hypericum (St John's Wort) to bring it and the nasty flu I had under control. I was feeling quite delerious and knew it was a bad flu bug that had super activated my herpes. I had it under control within a few hours. Sometimes you have to go with high doses and use what every antivirals are available. Glucagon is also useful as well as Colostrum. Donna at www.excellentthings.com has a fav brand of Transfer Factor, derived from Colostrum. Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 04:23, Dave Lewis wrote: Hi David, If it were me I would be taking anti-inflammatories. Steroids are a last resort in my book. If this is caused by a viral or bacterial infection you need your immune system to work at it's best. Steroids suppress the immune system.. I am not suggesting that this is your case, but one of the things said to cause bells palsy is HIV and AIDS. Imagine what would happen if you give an immune suppressant to someone with an already compromised immune system. Take a look at this link below. http://www.neurologychannel.com/bellspalsy/ http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068866/ I am not a doc, it is just my opinion and I am not telling you to stop any meds the doc has given you. I would keep taking whatever he has given you and go back and express the concern for the steroids. The use of steroids in Bells Palsy is said to aid the fullest recovery from the attack, but even then, it is still controversial. The other meds are possibly anti-virals. All the best and I hope you get better soon, Dave. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 18 October 2004 03:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Dave, I was never afforded the steroid treatment. By the time it was discovered that steroids would help it was too late. You only have 72 hours to initiate that treatment. My father, who was a Physician and Surgeon, just looked at me and said..Well hon.if it hasn't gone away after three months...you will have it for life. The Military docs told me the same thing. I don't give up, but I do accept the reality. Kris - Original Message - From: Dave Lewis To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/19/2004 3:41:26 AM Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob
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Hi David, If it were me I would be taking anti-inflammatories. Steroids are a last resort in my book. If this is caused by a viral or bacterial infection you need your immune system to work at it's best. Steroids suppress the immune system.. I am not suggesting that this is your case, but one of the things said to cause bells palsy is HIV and AIDS. Imagine what would happen if you give an immune suppressant to someone with an already compromised immune system. Take a look at this link below. http://www.neurologychannel.com/bellspalsy/ http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068866/ I am not a doc, it is just my opinion and I am not telling you to stop any meds the doc has given you. I would keep taking whatever he has given you and go back and express the concern for the steroids. The use of steroids in Bells Palsy is said to aid the fullest recovery from the attack, but even then, it is still controversial. The other meds are possibly anti-virals. All the best and I hope you get better soon, Dave. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 18 October 2004 03:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBells Palsy
DMSO is a very good antinflammatory. Used orally or topically. I agree with the idea of compressing the area with DMSO CS, even adding some MSM. And would also do all three orally. I had Bell's Palsy when I was pregnant. Same symptoms, went to the ER and the doc met me there. She said it was due to the baby pressing on major nerves. It came and went for a few weeks. No virus involved, but I can see how a virus could cause pressure on the nerve and interfere with nerve function, effectively blocking the signal. I have had herpes on my mouth that made my whole face start throbbing up to my eyes. This was before I had started using CS. I took five 250 mg Olive Leaf capsules every hour for a coupel doses, then two hours for the rest of the day -- and anti-viral herbs like Lomatium and Hypericum (St John's Wort) to bring it and the nasty flu I had under control. I was feeling quite delerious and knew it was a bad flu bug that had super activated my herpes. I had it under control within a few hours. Sometimes you have to go with high doses and use what every antivirals are available. Glucagon is also useful as well as Colostrum. Donna at www.excellentthings.com has a fav brand of Transfer Factor, derived from Colostrum. Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 04:23, Dave Lewis wrote: Hi David, If it were me I would be taking anti-inflammatories. Steroids are a last resort in my book. If this is caused by a viral or bacterial infection you need your immune system to work at it's best. Steroids suppress the immune system.. I am not suggesting that this is your case, but one of the things said to cause bells palsy is HIV and AIDS. Imagine what would happen if you give an immune suppressant to someone with an already compromised immune system. Take a look at this link below. http://www.neurologychannel.com/bellspalsy/ http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068866/ I am not a doc, it is just my opinion and I am not telling you to stop any meds the doc has given you. I would keep taking whatever he has given you and go back and express the concern for the steroids. The use of steroids in Bells Palsy is said to aid the fullest recovery from the attack, but even then, it is still controversial. The other meds are possibly anti-virals. All the best and I hope you get better soon, Dave. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 18 October 2004 03:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The production of C Platinum is discussed on the C Gold list. Both use a High Voltage process. I have been planning on setting up a generator so keep myself supplied with CG, as it is pricey to buy. It looks pretty simple and while precautions need to be taken to turn off the power supply when adjusting electrodes (has to be done periodically during processing), most people can manage it quite well with the correct information. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 09:23, Marshall Dudley wrote: Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically? Marshall Frank Key wrote: David wrote: Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? The recovery time can be dramatically reduced by taking colloidal platinum. Dosage using 10 ppm platinum: One tablespoon 3-4 times a day on an empty stomach should do it. Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically? Marshall Frank Key wrote: David wrote: Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? The recovery time can be dramatically reduced by taking colloidal platinum. Dosage using 10 ppm platinum: One tablespoon 3-4 times a day on an empty stomach should do it. Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My X had it, believed to have been caused by Neurontin. His diabetis doc put him on the neurontin for his neuropathy pain. ( off label use) Connie Subject: CSBells Palsy ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) I found that bells palsy is an indicator of Lyme disease. The strange thing was after I killed the Lyme off with CS I got it a second time. Neither time was it treated and It went away by It's self in two weeks. By the second time I was taking CS as a matter of course at about 8 Ozs. pr day and that didn't prevent it or shorten the time frame. Good Luck. Dave David wrote: I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall wrote: Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically? No, it can not be made by electrolysis. We make it by the Mesoprocess. There is no home method to make it that I am aware of. See: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesoplatinum.htm Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I contacted it in Germany in 1957 and was hospitalized in hidelberg along with 10 other solders as they ran every test they could think of with no diagnosis of anything, just one of those mysteries. I got the arithma migrans rash every 6 to 8 years as well as feeling like hell without any doctor diagnosing the problem until after I had researched and self diagnosed. Then as luck would have it I got the rash again and insisted they test me for Lyme. The test came back positive and the rash at the same time made a positive diagnosis. They got all excited and wanted to bombard me with ABs as if I had just contacted it, telling me they could stop it if caught early. I opted for CS and more or less cured it in three days. Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Several on the CG_Exchange list have made CPlatinum with thier home made high voltage generators. As well there is a CG Generator available from Inspiral Technologies that will make it at home. Perhaps you would like to check out the list archives in your spare (:-) time Frank. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 11:03, Frank Key wrote: Marshall wrote: Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically? No, it can not be made by electrolysis. We make it by the Mesoprocess. There is no home method to make it that I am aware of. See: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesoplatinum.htm Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi David, You could tweak your toes, usually on the opposite side to the affliction. concentrate your work on the tips and the balls of the toes, quite hard; enough to get you to say 'ouch' The work is not so much a rub as it is a press in and roll slightly. But also work the neck of each toe and and the top and side of each toe too. This should cause re-establishment of nerve pathways in your head and face. Also you can tweak the fingers in the same manner as above. The really sore spots are what need the most work :) Usually these are tiny pinprick areas. All the best, Tony On 17 Oct 2004 at 19:36, David wrote: I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Consider biofeedback, someone with a ROSHI instrument 626.577.2202. - Original Message - From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CSBells Palsy Thanks Dan, Whats strange is I have been doing more then my usual CS because I came down with a cold on monday. My normal dose of CS is 16 oz a day so I was very suprised I got a cold at all! The cold was pretty much gone by Wed ( I was also using my clark zapper) then this happened today. I will go and see if I can find some DMSO tomorrow. After reading all of Garnet's posts about DMSO I was thinking that was a good idea. Thanks again for your advice! David --- Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: If I had Bell's Palsy I would be chugging mass quantities of CS. I would also be spraying CS in my eyes. I would get a quantity of CS to which I would add 10% DMSO and put it into my ear and saturate a cloth with it and place it over the whole side of my face/head and keep it wet with the solution. Several times a day at the extreme minimum. If I had a zapper (which I do) I would use it immediately, and often. ASAP Dan PS Just my opinion... CSBells Palsy * From: David wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:40:40 I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interesting that you mention Germany: on a Japanese TV program not long ago, I saw a German motorcyclist -- a camping/tourer type -- who had been completely paralyzed by the bite of a tick.This fellow was traveling with a woman who was not ill, which gave at least some clue that his problem was not from food or water ingested. Bit of a long story. . . . He largely recovered, but his affliction evidently mystified the doctors for some time. He was a profoundly sick man.Maybe the ticks in Germany are more virulent? I know little about this topic. JBB On Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004, at 01:34 Asia/Tokyo, Dave wrote: I contacted it in Germany in 1957 and was hospitalized in hidelberg along with 10 other solders as they ran every test they could think of with no diagnosis of anything, just one of those mysteries. I got the arithma migrans rash every 6 to 8 years as well as feeling like hell without any doctor diagnosing the problem until after I had researched and self diagnosed. Then as luck would have it I got the rash again and insisted they test me for Lyme. The test came back positive and the rash at the same time made a positive diagnosis. They got all excited and wanted to bombard me with ABs as if I had just contacted it, telling me they could stop it if caught early. I opted for CS and more or less cured it in three days. Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have bell's palsey and have had it 18 years. Do yourself a favor...take the steroids. So far it's the only thing that helps. There is no surgery, no exercises and no other medication that I know of that will take care of it. Sincerely, Kris [Original Message] From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: 10/17/2004 7:36:14 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I was bent over with horrendous stomach cramps and at first they thought it was food poisoning but that didn't prove out. It was a hot summer day and my teeth were chattering so bad I thought I might break them. The symptoms lasted a week then the rash appeared and they had no idea what that was either as it didn't itch. Our good doctors over here would have called it exema and given some salve to ease the itching even if there wasn't any. (that's what happened on the last rash incident before the tests came back) Lyme disease is a very tenacious disease and it manifests itself in a multitude of symptoms that mimic many different diseases. If you keep it long enough it goes neurological and effects your ability to express yourself and in my case made me dumber than a stump. I kicked it a few years ago and am improving very slowly but I still have a hard time holding my own in a one on one conversation. Dave Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Interesting that you mention Germany: on a Japanese TV program not long ago, I saw a German motorcyclist -- a camping/tourer type -- who had been completely paralyzed by the bite of a tick.This fellow was traveling with a woman who was not ill, which gave at least some clue that his problem was not from food or water ingested. Bit of a long story. . . . He largely recovered, but his affliction evidently mystified the doctors for some time. He was a profoundly sick man.Maybe the ticks in Germany are more virulent? I know little about this topic. JBB On Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004, at 01:34 Asia/Tokyo, Dave wrote: I contacted it in Germany in 1957 and was hospitalized in hidelberg along with 10 other solders as they ran every test they could think of with no diagnosis of anything, just one of those mysteries. I got the arithma migrans rash every 6 to 8 years as well as feeling like hell without any doctor diagnosing the problem until after I had researched and self diagnosed. Then as luck would have it I got the rash again and insisted they test me for Lyme. The test came back positive and the rash at the same time made a positive diagnosis. They got all excited and wanted to bombard me with ABs as if I had just contacted it, telling me they could stop it if caught early. I opted for CS and more or less cured it in three days. Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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There is a syndrome (not uncommon in the US) called tick paralysis. Symptoms reside quickly when the tick is removed. Otherwise it can proceed to death... Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBells Palsy Interesting that you mention Germany: on a Japanese TV program not long ago, I saw a German motorcyclist -- a camping/tourer type -- who had been completely paralyzed by the bite of a tick.This fellow was traveling with a woman who was not ill, which gave at least some clue that his problem was not from food or water ingested. Bit of a long story. . . . He largely recovered, but his affliction evidently mystified the doctors for some time. He was a profoundly sick man.Maybe the ticks in Germany are more virulent? I know little about this topic. JBB On Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004, at 01:34 Asia/Tokyo, Dave wrote: I contacted it in Germany in 1957 and was hospitalized in hidelberg along with 10 other solders as they ran every test they could think of with no diagnosis of anything, just one of those mysteries. I got the arithma migrans rash every 6 to 8 years as well as feeling like hell without any doctor diagnosing the problem until after I had researched and self diagnosed. Then as luck would have it I got the rash again and insisted they test me for Lyme. The test came back positive and the rash at the same time made a positive diagnosis. They got all excited and wanted to bombard me with ABs as if I had just contacted it, telling me they could stop it if caught early. I opted for CS and more or less cured it in three days. Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes, what you say corresponds with my recollection: that the man's recovery began when doctor's found the tick on his body, between his toes or some such location. JBB On Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004, at 11:27 Asia/Tokyo, David W Kenney wrote: There is a syndrome (not uncommon in the US) called tick paralysis. Symptoms reside quickly when the tick is removed. Otherwise it can proceed to death... Dr. Kenney -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBells Palsy Interesting that you mention Germany: on a Japanese TV program not long ago, I saw a German motorcyclist -- a camping/tourer type -- who had been completely paralyzed by the bite of a tick.This fellow was traveling with a woman who was not ill, which gave at least some clue that his problem was not from food or water ingested. Bit of a long story. . . . He largely recovered, but his affliction evidently mystified the doctors for some time. He was a profoundly sick man.Maybe the ticks in Germany are more virulent? I know little about this topic. JBB On Tuesday, Oct 19, 2004, at 01:34 Asia/Tokyo, Dave wrote: I contacted it in Germany in 1957 and was hospitalized in hidelberg along with 10 other solders as they ran every test they could think of with no diagnosis of anything, just one of those mysteries. I got the arithma migrans rash every 6 to 8 years as well as feeling like hell without any doctor diagnosing the problem until after I had researched and self diagnosed. Then as luck would have it I got the rash again and insisted they test me for Lyme. The test came back positive and the rash at the same time made a positive diagnosis. They got all excited and wanted to bombard me with ABs as if I had just contacted it, telling me they could stop it if caught early. I opted for CS and more or less cured it in three days. Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: I know the scary feeling very well. I have had it twice. The first time the doctor told me they didn't know what caused it but it would go away in two weeks by it's self,and it did without treatment. All I had to do was operate my eyelid manually until the eye would close again. After a lot of research on lyme disease ( that I suffered with for 42 years) Where do you live? The spirokete that causes Lyme Disease was introduced into the US in New England until the late 80's. Before that it was in Europe, but not identified as such until it was identified in the US. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob
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I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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If I had Bell's Palsy I would be chugging mass quantities of CS. I would also be spraying CS in my eyes. I would get a quantity of CS to which I would add 10% DMSO and put it into my ear and saturate a cloth with it and place it over the whole side of my face/head and keep it wet with the solution. Several times a day at the extreme minimum. If I had a zapper (which I do) I would use it immediately, and often. ASAP Dan PS Just my opinion... CSBells Palsy * From: David wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:40:40 I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Dan, Whats strange is I have been doing more then my usual CS because I came down with a cold on monday. My normal dose of CS is 16 oz a day so I was very suprised I got a cold at all! The cold was pretty much gone by Wed ( I was also using my clark zapper) then this happened today. I will go and see if I can find some DMSO tomorrow. After reading all of Garnet's posts about DMSO I was thinking that was a good idea. Thanks again for your advice! David --- Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: If I had Bell's Palsy I would be chugging mass quantities of CS. I would also be spraying CS in my eyes. I would get a quantity of CS to which I would add 10% DMSO and put it into my ear and saturate a cloth with it and place it over the whole side of my face/head and keep it wet with the solution. Several times a day at the extreme minimum. If I had a zapper (which I do) I would use it immediately, and often. ASAP Dan PS Just my opinion... CSBells Palsy * From: David wrote: * Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:40:40 I had scary thing happen to me today... the left side of my face stopped working... I can't blink my eye, the left side of my mouth kind of droops, and if I drink something I better keep it on the right side of my mouth or it is dribbled down my shirt. Anyway I thought I was having a stroke so I went to the emergency room and they did a cat scan and all the other things I have never had before and they tell me I have bells palsy. The good news is it that for most people it goes away within a couple months or so. They don't really know what causes it but some papers they gave me says that they think it might be caused by a virus. Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? They gave me steroids and and some other poison I really don't want to take. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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David wrote: Has anyone in this group experienced Bells Palsy or know the best way to treat it in a holistic manner? The recovery time can be dramatically reduced by taking colloidal platinum. Dosage using 10 ppm platinum: One tablespoon 3-4 times a day on an empty stomach should do it. Frank Key -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
