Re: CSBook Report r.e. H202
Thanks for this. I have had varying reports about ozonated water but am still not clear about the benefits or potential detriments. I think Terry Chamberlain at one time indicated having some knowledge about this topic. . . . JBB On Saturday, Dec 24, 2005, at 21:44 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote: ## I do not believe that water and O3 will produce H2O2. Virtually all distilled water in the USA is heavily ozonated and I have yet to see it have the same effect as running CS batches in H2O2 contaminated water. Too much dissolved O3 probably will oxidize silver ions and I think I have seen this happen a few times when using extremely fresh ozonated distilled water, but it can be outgassed fairly easily. Using the same water after it was allowed to outgass solved the problem. O3, water and very strong UV light might make H2O2. Ode Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A quick book report: yes, it is a worthwhile read, with excellent references. A few key points: The doctor is very enthusiastic about the benefits of IV H202; he clearly hedges his bets about oral use. If one uses ingests the stuff at all -- he pointedly makes no recommendation about this -- it should be on an empty stomach.He does cite cases of users who have benefited from oral ingestion, but mentions various risks, including the one that concerned me: free-radical formation and resultant oxidative damage.This is most likely if food is in the stomach. I note that the Beck protocol recommends ingested ozonated water, which I understand to be water infused with O3, which then becomes H2O2.If there is any difference between ingesting ozonated water and ordinary store-bought H202, I would be eager to learn more.Thus far I understand that these are identical. The author emphatically endorses the use of H202 for dental use. I intend to reread the book when time permits. Thanks again. On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 22:37 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: You're welcome. I think that book should be on everyone's bookshelf..er, hard-drive. It'll more than likely come in handy someday. stuff At 11:05 PM 12/22/2005, Jonathan wrote: My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBook Report r.e. H202
## I do not believe that water and O3 will produce H2O2. Virtually all distilled water in the USA is heavily ozonated and I have yet to see it have the same effect as running CS batches in H2O2 contaminated water. Too much dissolved O3 probably will oxidize silver ions and I think I have seen this happen a few times when using extremely fresh ozonated distilled water, but it can be outgassed fairly easily. Using the same water after it was allowed to outgass solved the problem. O3, water and very strong UV light might make H2O2. Ode Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A quick book report: yes, it is a worthwhile read, with excellent references. A few key points: The doctor is very enthusiastic about the benefits of IV H202; he clearly hedges his bets about oral use. If one uses ingests the stuff at all -- he pointedly makes no recommendation about this -- it should be on an empty stomach.He does cite cases of users who have benefited from oral ingestion, but mentions various risks, including the one that concerned me: free-radical formation and resultant oxidative damage.This is most likely if food is in the stomach. I note that the Beck protocol recommends ingested ozonated water, which I understand to be water infused with O3, which then becomes H2O2.If there is any difference between ingesting ozonated water and ordinary store-bought H202, I would be eager to learn more. Thus far I understand that these are identical. The author emphatically endorses the use of H202 for dental use. I intend to reread the book when time permits. Thanks again. On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 22:37 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: You're welcome. I think that book should be on everyone's bookshelf..er, hard-drive. It'll more than likely come in handy someday. stuff At 11:05 PM 12/22/2005, Jonathan wrote: My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBook Report r.e. H202
Hi Jonathan: I've ingested both H2O2 and freshly ozonated water; I wouldn't compare the two at all. O3 is very unstable. Even in distilled water, at room temperature, the O3 in fully satured water lasts for about 30 minutes. Hydrogen peroxide is not produced. Without the presence of other specific substances, the breakdown is: O3 --- O2 + O- The O3 is reactive, as well as the O- alot more reactive than H2O2. O3 is far more gentle on the digestive system than H2O2 ( I'm here talking about using H2O2 in water, not in silver, as it does not have the same effect ). Kind Regards, Jason Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A quick book report: yes, it is a worthwhile read, with excellent references. A few key points: The doctor is very enthusiastic about the benefits of IV H202; he clearly hedges his bets about oral use. If one uses ingests the stuff at all -- he pointedly makes no recommendation about this -- it should be on an empty stomach.He does cite cases of users who have benefited from oral ingestion, but mentions various risks, including the one that concerned me: free-radical formation and resultant oxidative damage.This is most likely if food is in the stomach. I note that the Beck protocol recommends ingested ozonated water, which I understand to be water infused with O3, which then becomes H2O2.If there is any difference between ingesting ozonated water and ordinary store-bought H202, I would be eager to learn more.Thus far I understand that these are identical. The author emphatically endorses the use of H202 for dental use. I intend to reread the book when time permits. Thanks again. On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 22:37 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: You're welcome. I think that book should be on everyone's bookshelf..er, hard-drive. It'll more than likely come in handy someday. stuff At 11:05 PM 12/22/2005, Jonathan wrote: My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBook Report r.e. H202
A quick book report: yes, it is a worthwhile read, with excellent references. A few key points: The doctor is very enthusiastic about the benefits of IV H202; he clearly hedges his bets about oral use. If one uses ingests the stuff at all -- he pointedly makes no recommendation about this -- it should be on an empty stomach.He does cite cases of users who have benefited from oral ingestion, but mentions various risks, including the one that concerned me: free-radical formation and resultant oxidative damage.This is most likely if food is in the stomach. I note that the Beck protocol recommends ingested ozonated water, which I understand to be water infused with O3, which then becomes H2O2.If there is any difference between ingesting ozonated water and ordinary store-bought H202, I would be eager to learn more. Thus far I understand that these are identical. The author emphatically endorses the use of H202 for dental use. I intend to reread the book when time permits. Thanks again. On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 22:37 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: You're welcome. I think that book should be on everyone's bookshelf..er, hard-drive. It'll more than likely come in handy someday. stuff At 11:05 PM 12/22/2005, Jonathan wrote: My goodness: a 173 page book, free with one mouse-click! Thanks for that. I notice that in the first chapter the doctor addresses my long-standing question about the conflict between H202 therapy and the free-radical theory of aging and cellular damage. That alone suggests this is a worthwhile read. Much obliged! On Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 10:49 Asia/Tokyo, Stuff wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/22/2005, Kallie wrote to Pete: Check this out, Pete. http://www.h2o2medicalmiracle.com/H2o2MedicalMiracle.pdf stuff Have you looked into and can afford intravenous Hydrogen peroxide for your emphysema and cancer? For more information, do a google search on intravenous hydrogen peroxide -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
