CSCS Ozone
Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Did you do any rectal insufflations? If you did, I wonder why the ozonated EIS would work and insufflation would not. Thanks for the info on ozonating EIS. I have been wondering about this myself. Did you use an oxygen tank as your source of oxygen? PT From: Rick mtnb...@exwire.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: CSCS Ozone Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi how did you ozonate your silver? Could you pls forward a schetch Of your ozone set up. I really do not know construction stuff but have heard of ozone for home use but have not seen a set up. I'd like to do this. I have done sublingual applications and added ozone to my glands using a photon genie. So different delivery but had good results. Sincerely tre lymeover.com Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease - Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with variable temperatures. Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Rick mtnb...@exwire.com wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Lola: To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction. The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy. I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral hydrogen peroxide therapy). ~Jason On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=__unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/__silver-list@eskimo.com/__maillist.html http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Jason, I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is that good or not so good? Joe On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote: Hi Lola: To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction. The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy. I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral hydrogen peroxide therapy). ~Jason On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=__unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/__silver-list@eskimo.com/__maillist.html http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
H2O2 will only turn it brown if the EIS is fresh. [before conductivity stops dropping once power is off] If it has 'aged' [stabilized] for a few days, it will clear up over night if it WAS brown [but not made brown with H2O2] or yellow. H2O2 will both form silver oxides and destroy silver oxides depending on when you use it. Used at 3% it will clean up an oxide blackened electrode pretty fast, then turn it black again later on. Ode On 11/15/2014 3:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Jason, I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is that good or not so good? Joe On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote: Hi Lola: To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction. The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy. I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral hydrogen peroxide therapy). ~Jason On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=__unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/__silver-list@eskimo.com/__maillist.html http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
Hi Joe: The 'visible' reaction via the tyndall effect only occurs when H2O2 reacts with silver particles. If your brew doesn't have a strong tyndall effect to begin with, then you won't be able to visually see the effect with a laser. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 12:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Jason, I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is that good or not so good? Joe On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote: Hi Lola: To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction. The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy. I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral hydrogen peroxide therapy). ~Jason On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=__unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/__silver-list@eskimo.com/__maillist.html http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-list@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Ozone
It reacts with silver ions, oxidizing them into silver oxide particles that will show a brown pigment. Once the EIS has stabilized [Hydrated?] if there are any silver oxide particles, H2O2 will destroy them. If an agglomeration crystal has nucleated around a silver oxide particle, destroying the nucleus will break the crystal apart. Ode On 11/15/2014 5:59 PM, Jason wrote: Hi Joe: The 'visible' reaction via the tyndall effect only occurs when H2O2 reacts with silver particles. If your brew doesn't have a strong tyndall effect to begin with, then you won't be able to visually see the effect with a laser. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 12:31 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Jason, I did that today for the first time, and there was no reaction with a red laser shining through a glass of EIS made with my Colloid Master. Is that good or not so good? Joe On 2014-11-15 1:00 PM, Jason wrote: Hi Lola: To get the reaction, you only need very little H2O2. One drop of 3% H2O2 to four ounces of EIS is more than plenty to enduce the reaction. The more H2O2 you use, the more you approach doing H2O2 oral therapy. I myself would add 3-4 drops of 35% H2O2; however, this would make some people ill and isn't necessary (see the pro and con research on oral hydrogen peroxide therapy). ~Jason On 11/15/2014 9:39 AM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Jason.. how much HP do you add to how much CS? Thanks.. Lola H. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Gail: for the best effect, add it about three minutes before drinking. If you are interested to see the reaction, just get a red laser pointer, and you can watch the reaction. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 8:39 AM, Gail Naranjo wrote: Hi Jason, So do you add a drop to every time you take the CS or just a drop of it to the whole batch? I make it a quart at a time and only take a swig of it daily. To make it more effective how much would I add to the daily swig? This is very interesting. Gail On Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:17 AM, Jason ja...@eytonsearth.org mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org wrote: Hi Rick: You can get a very similar effect by combing just a bit of H2O2 to colloidal silver just prior to consuming it. Since the H2O2 is quite a bit less reactive than ozone, the oxidation effect can last quite a bit longer. Remember, you can power a race car by oxidizing silver particles with oxygen. The ozone/h2o2 atomizes some silver particles, while oxidizing others (the oxidized particles eventually drop out of suspension). You get a very wide range of interesting silver/oxygen species. Using too much reactive oxygen will eventually result in the elimination of all silver particles in solution. When you add a drop of H2O2 and your home brew EIS turns brown, it means you have a very poor end product (relatively speaking) too many sparklies or large particles. I check every batch of EIS I make with H2O2. Usually, a bad batch means I didn't clean the electrodes well enough before brewing, or the container/distilled water wasn't as pure as I'd like. ~Jason On 11/15/2014 7:59 AM, Rick wrote: Been watching the list for a while, thought I comment about discussions of CS Ozone. Several years ago, I believe I contracted Giardia from eating mint planted outside that the rodents played in. I had intestinal issues for months which happened cyclically, every 2 weeks. I tried all sorts of things on it: Colloidal Silver, zapper, secnars, etc and nothing worked. One morning I had an epiphany, and decided to ozonate my colloidal silver. Literally, as I was drinking it, I could tell it was killing them and never had a problem since. I have done a bunch of research and really haven't found much research about ozonated colloidal silver. Anyone have any experience? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-request@__eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=__unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/__silver-list@eskimo.com/__maillist.html
Re: CSCS Ozone
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CSCS Ozone
When I added the ozone into the Colloidal Silver, there was no color change. I didn't use hydrogen peroxide, I was generating the ozone directly and inputing into the solution. The solution tasted like ozone, and I doubt a few drops of hydrogen peroxide would have this overpowering taste. I'm not a scientist, so I don't exactly know what happened, but it seemed to amplify the effects of the CS. I tried the CS alone, with no effect (along with a lot of other alternative stuff) and only when I added the ozone directly into the solution, did I get immediate results. There was no color change in the solution- it was clear both before and after. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Good - I'm all for actual EVIDENCE of benefit - all I'm saying is no one should just try anything willy nilly, especially with something like ozone - in the wrong hands, it can be dangerous. In the right hands, it is perfectly safe and a powerful healing therapy. Care to elaborate on exactly how you made it? Ozonating machine you can buy for aquariiums. I thought about supplying it with oxygen, but it seems to make no oxides of nitrogen anyway. There are only a very few generators that use plain air that do NOT make enough nitrogen oxide to be a problem - and those are a bit more expensive than an aquarium generator. Guess theyhave to design it right on that respect or it would kill the fish. Or maybe nitrogen oxide doesn't bother fish as much... I'd hardly consider the fact that they don't die as proof that it isn't outputting nitrogen oxides. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi I made the ozone using an enaly unit which was using just air from the atmosphere. I bubled it through a stone into the cs for about 2hrs and in some cases only minutes. love and peace Damian On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 06:18 -0500, Simon Jester wrote: On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Good - I'm all for actual EVIDENCE of benefit - all I'm saying is no one should just try anything willy nilly, especially with something like ozone - in the wrong hands, it can be dangerous. In the right hands, it is perfectly safe and a powerful healing therapy. Care to elaborate on exactly how you made it? Ozonating machine you can buy for aquariiums. I thought about supplying it with oxygen, but it seems to make no oxides of nitrogen anyway. There are only a very few generators that use plain air that do NOT make enough nitrogen oxide to be a problem - and those are a bit more expensive than an aquarium generator. Guess theyhave to design it right on that respect or it would kill the fish. Or maybe nitrogen oxide doesn't bother fish as much... I'd hardly consider the fact that they don't die as proof that it isn't outputting nitrogen oxides. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Long ago, I ran a batch of EIS [CS} and it turned up deep yellow. [ Current controlled generator with conductivity triggered auto off ] [Most, if not All, distilled water in America is Ozonated] I let that jug of water sit around for a few days. It accumulated heavy layers of gas bubbles on the sides. I shook the bubbles loose and ran another batch. That batch and all future batches from that jug were just fine. Ode At 11:53 AM 11/5/2007 -0500, you wrote: On 11/4/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Wow arnt we mr negative. ?? I was under the impression silver oxide was black. I didn't say it would conver it to silver oxide... I said it would most likely OXIDIZE it. I have as yet seen any black residue or color. Also with a pure oxygen supply for ozone wouldnt have the same affect as h2o2 in that it breaks the particle size down smaller. Ozone is not H2O2. It *may* do the same thing... or it probably WON'T. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 11/5/2007 7:11 PM
Re: CSCS OZone
On 11/4/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Wow arnt we mr negative. ?? I was under the impression silver oxide was black. I didn't say it would conver it to silver oxide... I said it would most likely OXIDIZE it. I have as yet seen any black residue or color. Also with a pure oxygen supply for ozone wouldnt have the same affect as h2o2 in that it breaks the particle size down smaller. Ozone is not H2O2. It *may* do the same thing... or it probably WON'T. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I suspect that ozonated water will react the same with with CS that H2O2 does. They both have an unstable oxygen attached. Basically it will oxidize the colloidal particles producing silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and then oxidize the silver oxide making two atom silver colloid (and an O2 molecule). The reason that the conductivity went down is because much of the silver oxide, which is ionic, became a colloid with the second reaction. Ode Coyote wrote: Ozone [O3]and Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2], both have an unstable Oxygen atom that will scavenge the Oxygen atom out of Silver Oxide. It will also oxidize a silver ion, making another form of silver oxide. *When* either is used, counts. If you bubble Ozone through the water as the EIS is being made, it will probably be yellow to black, or result in big flakes of silver metal, like when running a generator with H2O2 in the water. Run some through a very fresh batch of EIS [CS] Make some with the O3 being bubbled through. and tell us what happens. Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
Re: CSCS OZone
On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I suspect that ozonated water will react the same with with CS that H2O2 does. They both have an unstable oxygen attached. Basically it will oxidize the colloidal particles producing silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and then oxidize the silver oxide making two atom silver colloid (and an O2 molecule). The reason that the conductivity went down is because much of the silver oxide, which is ionic, became a colloid with the second reaction. I prefer not to speculate... or to make things unnecessarily complicated. I just don't see a good reason to ozonate CS. If it is ever proven to somehow increase its potency or have some other beneficial effect, then by all means, lets shout it to the rooftops. This is a good topic for experimentation - and I am even very interested in the results - but only by those capable of determining exactly what happens (and I'm not)... Again, maybe it is fine - maybe it even amplifies the CS - maybe it even produces a hitherto unknown substance that is 5 times more powerful than CS and ozone combined - but it is just plain silly to 'experiment' like this on your own body without having a damned good idea what it is actually doing ahead of time. This is just one mans opinion... everyone is of course welcome to experiment in their own way - and welcome to experience the consequences of their actions, even those taken in ignorance. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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That's weird. Sound more like what one would expect from gold, not silver. Marshall damian wrote: I guess i should mention the psycho active aspects if you can call them that. First off basically from the moment the cs went in my mouth a hue sound started in my head and is only now diminishing. That night i was up all night as i felt very alert and able to focus, I started writing some eeg software. I had also experience what could only be termed as a kind of bilocationality where by i felt like i was in two places in once. This happened to me about 3 time during the active part. For me i felt really in the moment and great, you didnt worry about anything you just did what was required of you. Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 10:59 +1000, damian wrote: Yeah your right about making cs while bubbling ozone through. It just make a horrible mess of large particles and grey solution. However when you have finished making it the normal way event just ozonating the solution for 1 minute takes the ppm up from 6 to 12 and color go from yellow to clear. It is too early to say but when i took my first mouth full psycho active affects appeared. It is only now that they are just about gone. It has probably been 4 days since the initial trial. The batch i took a mouth full from had only been ozonated for 1 minute if i recall correctly. I try to limit the ozonation time because the longer you ozonate the more the ph drops. The lowest and stable has been 2.6 love and peace Damian On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 11:48 -0500, Ode Coyote wrote: Ozone [O3]and Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2], both have an unstable Oxygen atom that will scavenge the Oxygen atom out of Silver Oxide. It will also oxidize a silver ion, making another form of silver oxide. *When* either is used, counts. If you bubble Ozone through the water as the EIS is being made, it will probably be yellow to black, or result in big flakes of silver metal, like when running a generator with H2O2 in the water. Run some through a very fresh batch of EIS [CS] Make some with the O3 being bubbled through. and tell us what happens. Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
RE: CSCS OZone
Simon, are you sure about that? you may be correct, but indication from what Damian did so far is that it possibly acts similarly to peroxide in reducing larger particles to smaller ones. if it takes a yellow soln to clear, and even raises the reading on a TDS meter, what does that mean and why??? that's what i'm wondering. using an oxygen feed on the ozone generator will get nitrogen out of the equation, and that may take care of any problem with it. if ozone can be used instead of peroxide to break down particle size and even create ions, without creating hydroxides or oxides, i like the idea ... because i have a constant available on demand source of ozone, and don't really want to spend money on food-grade peroxide that will largely go dead over time in storage if i don't use enough. i know the ozone isn't polluted with additives if i use oxygen. so what i'd like to see are the chemical equations of the reactions that take place ... then the trick is to regain the chemistry knowledge to really understand them. i recall some time ago on one of the silver lists where there was some argument over just what the reaction is with silver, silver ions, and peroxide. from that it seemed that even the biggest co. in the world making peroxide doesn't have their head on straight for sure, as their explanation/equation was apparently torn apart. tetrasilver tetroxide kicks ass on microbes, and is safe enough in the body from what i've been able to determine... so there apparently are oxides that aren't such a bad thing to worry about. -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS OZone On 11/4/2007, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. Makes no difference... the ozone will oxidize the silver regardless... Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Simon Jester wrote: On 11/3/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. I'm still failing to see why you would want to do this in the first place. If you read even a little on what ozone is and what it can do, it SHOULD be obvious that ozonating CS is NOT something you would want to do. I am not quite sure what you are referring to here. Ozone is great for killing all pathogens. That is good. It also can cause smog, when in the air with hydrocarbons, but I don't see that as relevent. Neither is that it absorbs UV light from the sun, helping prevent everyone and everything from getting sunburned. Often when ozone is made, there are oxides of nitrogen made, which can cause havoc in the lungs. But putting it in water, plus using ozone without oxides of nitrogen should not be a problem. I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Simon Jester wrote: On 11/4/2007, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. Makes no difference... the ozone will oxidize the silver regardless... The ozone will oxidize the big particles and change the oxides to colloid. The difference is if you are getting oxides of nitrogen, which are very nasty. Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. What is counter productive? I don't follow this at all. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: Ozone is great for killing all pathogens. That is good. It also can cause smog, when in the air with hydrocarbons, but I don't see that as relevent. Thats because it is simply not true, and one element of FUD spread by the disinformation masters. Ozone is not 'smog' itself, nor is it a 'component' of smog... it is PRESENT in smog - but it is simply because it is natures way of trying to CLEAN IT UP. Neither is that it absorbs UV light from the sun, helping prevent everyone and everything from getting sunburned. Often when ozone is made, there are oxides of nitrogen made, which can cause havoc in the lungs. Yes - which is why medical grade ozone generators are fed with pure oxygen. I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Good - I'm all for actual EVIDENCE of benefit - all I'm saying is no one should just try anything willy nilly, especially with something like ozone - in the wrong hands, it can be dangerous. In the right hands, it is perfectly safe and a powerful healing therapy. Care to elaborate on exactly how you made it? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. What is counter productive? I don't follow this at all. Experimenting 'just because'... I have asked more than once for anyone who actually might KNOW something about the type of reaction that may come into play - and my cautioning was directly related to none seemingly forthcoming. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
damian wrote: Wow arnt we mr negative. I was under the impression silver oxide was black. Depends. It can be brown or black in bulk, but if in a fine powder, it will often be white or light tan. I have as yet seen any black residue or color. Also with a pure oxygen supply for ozone wouldnt have the same affect as h2o2 in that it breaks the particle size down smaller. I think it might. The chemistry should be very similar. Marshall love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 17:56 -0500, Simon Jester wrote: On 11/4/2007, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. Makes no difference... the ozone will oxidize the silver regardless... Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Simon Jester wrote: On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I suspect that ozonated water will react the same with with CS that H2O2 does. They both have an unstable oxygen attached. Basically it will oxidize the colloidal particles producing silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and then oxidize the silver oxide making two atom silver colloid (and an O2 molecule). The reason that the conductivity went down is because much of the silver oxide, which is ionic, became a colloid with the second reaction. I prefer not to speculate... or to make things unnecessarily complicated. I just don't see a good reason to ozonate CS. If it is ever proven to somehow increase its potency or have some other beneficial effect, then by all means, lets shout it to the rooftops. Well, it might break the particles down like H2O2 does, and there is some evidence it does. It is known that if this is done, potency increases. And work by Bob Beck shows that ozone water is effective in getting to pathogens in areas where CS does not reach. So between those two, it does increase the effectiveness of just plain old CS. This is a good topic for experimentation - and I am even very interested in the results - but only by those capable of determining exactly what happens (and I'm not)... Well, unfortunately, most experiments would be of a the nature that it worked on the flu or cold, and did so better than CS or ozonated water alone. Difficult to structure so that one can be certain of the results since it is anecdotal. Again, maybe it is fine - maybe it even amplifies the CS - maybe it even produces a hitherto unknown substance that is 5 times more powerful than CS and ozone combined - but it is just plain silly to 'experiment' like this on your own body without having a damned good idea what it is actually doing ahead of time. Well, I have a darned good idea what it does. It either mixes with no reaction, in which case it should do as well as CS plus Ozonated water summed together, or it will act like H2O2 and break down the larger colloidal particles making smaller ones, which would make it better than the sum of the parts. Neither of those I see has a downside. This is just one mans opinion... everyone is of course welcome to experiment in their own way - and welcome to experience the consequences of their actions, even those taken in ignorance. I have done the experiments with H2O2. I think it likely that ozonated water will behave similarly. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Simon Jester wrote: On 11/5/2007, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: Ozone is great for killing all pathogens. That is good. It also can cause smog, when in the air with hydrocarbons, but I don't see that as relevent. Thats because it is simply not true, and one element of FUD spread by the disinformation masters. Ozone is not 'smog' itself, nor is it a 'component' of smog... it is PRESENT in smog - but it is simply because it is natures way of trying to CLEAN IT UP. Neither is that it absorbs UV light from the sun, helping prevent everyone and everything from getting sunburned. Often when ozone is made, there are oxides of nitrogen made, which can cause havoc in the lungs. Yes - which is why medical grade ozone generators are fed with pure oxygen. I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Good - I'm all for actual EVIDENCE of benefit - all I'm saying is no one should just try anything willy nilly, especially with something like ozone - in the wrong hands, it can be dangerous. In the right hands, it is perfectly safe and a powerful healing therapy. Care to elaborate on exactly how you made it? Ozonating machine you can buy for aquariiums. I thought about supplying it with oxygen, but it seems to make no oxides of nitrogen anyway. Guess theyhave to design it right on that respect or it would kill the fish. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Hi Marshall Yeah i did write that i wasnt sure it was related to the ozonated cs. My well being is in constant chaos. One day i feel good the next moment crap. And actually based on todays outing the sensations had nothing to do with the ozonated cs. love and peace Damian On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 13:45 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote: Simon Jester wrote: On 11/3/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. I'm still failing to see why you would want to do this in the first place. If you read even a little on what ozone is and what it can do, it SHOULD be obvious that ozonating CS is NOT something you would want to do. I am not quite sure what you are referring to here. Ozone is great for killing all pathogens. That is good. It also can cause smog, when in the air with hydrocarbons, but I don't see that as relevent. Neither is that it absorbs UV light from the sun, helping prevent everyone and everything from getting sunburned. Often when ozone is made, there are oxides of nitrogen made, which can cause havoc in the lungs. But putting it in water, plus using ozone without oxides of nitrogen should not be a problem. I have used ozone infused CS in the past with extremely good results. Have killed bad flus and colds in a people who were completely under the weather in less than 2 hours with it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Elaborate please, what kind of psycho-active effects? On Nov 3, 2007, at 6:59 PM, damian wrote: Yeah your right about making cs while bubbling ozone through. It just make a horrible mess of large particles and grey solution. However when you have finished making it the normal way event just ozonating the solution for 1 minute takes the ppm up from 6 to 12 and color go from yellow to clear. It is too early to say but when i took my first mouth full psycho active affects appeared. It is only now that they are just about gone. It has probably been 4 days since the initial trial. The batch i took a mouth full from had only been ozonated for 1 minute if i recall correctly. I try to limit the ozonation time because the longer you ozonate the more the ph drops. The lowest and stable has been 2.6 love and peace Damian On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 11:48 -0500, Ode Coyote wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
On 11/3/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. I'm still failing to see why you would want to do this in the first place. If you read even a little on what ozone is and what it can do, it SHOULD be obvious that ozonating CS is NOT something you would want to do. Trying stuff like this without first hitting oneself in the head real hard with a clue-stick is what sometimes results in someone getting hurt - or even killed - which then gives 'them' even more ammunition to clamp down on those of us trying to take care of ourselves. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Hi Simon Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so thankyou all Love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:54 -0500, Simon Jester wrote: On 11/3/2007, damian (dmona...@aapt.net.au) wrote: Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. I'm still failing to see why you would want to do this in the first place. If you read even a little on what ozone is and what it can do, it SHOULD be obvious that ozonating CS is NOT something you would want to do. Trying stuff like this without first hitting oneself in the head real hard with a clue-stick is what sometimes results in someone getting hurt - or even killed - which then gives 'them' even more ammunition to clamp down on those of us trying to take care of ourselves. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Hi Damian, What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. damian dmona...@aapt.net.au wrote: Hi Simon Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so thankyou all Love and peace Damian Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Hi No unfortunatly i dont have an oxygen feed. Wish i did as then i would make ozonated olive oil. I think if you had an oxygen feed there would be no problems with ozonating the cs love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 14:14 -0800, Carol Ann wrote: Hi Damian, What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. damian dmona...@aapt.net.au wrote: Hi Simon Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so thankyou all Love and peace Damian Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
On 11/4/2007, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. Makes no difference... the ozone will oxidize the silver regardless... Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS OZone
Wow arnt we mr negative. I was under the impression silver oxide was black. I have as yet seen any black residue or color. Also with a pure oxygen supply for ozone wouldnt have the same affect as h2o2 in that it breaks the particle size down smaller. love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 17:56 -0500, Simon Jester wrote: On 11/4/2007, Carol Ann (saffiresk...@yahoo.com) wrote: Sure I agree with you however i didnt know that much about the possible outcome thus my reason for joining and asking this group the potential problems. My questions have to the most part been answered so What kind of air supply are u using to ozonate your water. Are you using an Oxygen feed. Makes no difference... the ozone will oxidize the silver regardless... Again - it is pointless, and even counter-productive. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS OZone... what does the ozone do to CS ???
i've been conversing with damian a bit about this on another list. the question we are most interested in is regarding what happens when CS is ozonated. my first thoughts are that it would do the same thing as peroxide in making particles smaller, therefore accounting for the color disappearing, going back to clear. since he reported the ppm going up also, i speculate that some particles are going into an ionic state, which brings up another question: will peroxide some particles into ionic state? or does it only break them down so far but not ionize them? an interesting thing is the change of weight...how to account for that? overall, the solution still should weigh the same, shouldn't it? i can readily accept some change of viscosity... but he also mentioned pretty powerful psychoactive stimulant effects from a small amount of it, and some other sensations he found a bit unnerving... best for him to get into that part. i have experienced a perfect speed effect from CS for the first few months after starting use, which i attributed to clearing my body of all manner of living undesireables and their toxins etc and the load they had me carrying. i loved it, it made me feel normal like up to speed with the rest of the world ... in a much better way than speed did back in '68-73 before it got into ultimately dragging me down more than up. i'm wondering if the other sensations damian experienced might be a bit of a herx from die-off? damian, had you been taking any CS regularly previous to this sampling? if not, then my guess is the funky part of the effects would leave as your system flushed the waste, and you would acclimate to the higher energy state??? or maybe you're individuality is wired with a particular sensitivity... or maybe the ozonation really does something different, and/or as you speculated about some possible nitrites from the ozone generation getting into the mix and/or hydroxides forming??? hey, maybe if nitrogen + silver compounds are responsible for the super speed effect, then that could've been what rosemary jacobs was into, being a speed freak. there sure used to be a lot of serious nasal spray addicts in the 50's and 60's. i had a lot of hep-C brain fog and fatigue as a burden when i started CS so the psychoactive contrast for me was huge... but i had no herx at all, just an amazing loss of adverse symptoms. [...bobL: ] -Original Message- From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:fesanfranci...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS OZone Respected Damian: We brewed home-made silverwater for years, and we have no sophisticated aparatus for measuring PPM etc. We do see a yellowish color now and then, and it either disappears or falls to the bottom of our water. The we use it anyway. We do filter with cottonwool if there is any color. Yet we prefer clear water for our clients ..it is that more attractive, and it does not cause any questions.. Clear water we get by brewing from the brands Manatial (which seems rather south-American) or le Bleu, which may even be obtained elsewhere in the world (the States?) Le Bleu has given us the best results, Manatial is second best. Take Care, FaithStFrancis, Medellin, Colombia -- From: dmona...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:34:46 +1000 Subject: CSCS OZone Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now!
Re: CSCS OZone
Ozone [O3]and Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2], both have an unstable Oxygen atom that will scavenge the Oxygen atom out of Silver Oxide. It will also oxidize a silver ion, making another form of silver oxide. *When* either is used, counts. If you bubble Ozone through the water as the EIS is being made, it will probably be yellow to black, or result in big flakes of silver metal, like when running a generator with H2O2 in the water. Run some through a very fresh batch of EIS [CS] Make some with the O3 being bubbled through. and tell us what happens. Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
Re: CSCS OZone
NB according to my reading, silver nitrate is deadly even in small quantities. Do you know whether there would be enough present to be any serious risk?If so, the information below would be something for the archives. On Sunday, Nov 4, 2007, at 01:48 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote: . Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
Re: CSCS OZone
Yeah your right about making cs while bubbling ozone through. It just make a horrible mess of large particles and grey solution. However when you have finished making it the normal way event just ozonating the solution for 1 minute takes the ppm up from 6 to 12 and color go from yellow to clear. It is too early to say but when i took my first mouth full psycho active affects appeared. It is only now that they are just about gone. It has probably been 4 days since the initial trial. The batch i took a mouth full from had only been ozonated for 1 minute if i recall correctly. I try to limit the ozonation time because the longer you ozonate the more the ph drops. The lowest and stable has been 2.6 love and peace Damian On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 11:48 -0500, Ode Coyote wrote: Ozone [O3]and Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2], both have an unstable Oxygen atom that will scavenge the Oxygen atom out of Silver Oxide. It will also oxidize a silver ion, making another form of silver oxide. *When* either is used, counts. If you bubble Ozone through the water as the EIS is being made, it will probably be yellow to black, or result in big flakes of silver metal, like when running a generator with H2O2 in the water. Run some through a very fresh batch of EIS [CS] Make some with the O3 being bubbled through. and tell us what happens. Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
Re: CSCS OZone
I guess i should mention the psycho active aspects if you can call them that. First off basically from the moment the cs went in my mouth a hue sound started in my head and is only now diminishing. That night i was up all night as i felt very alert and able to focus, I started writing some eeg software. I had also experience what could only be termed as a kind of bilocationality where by i felt like i was in two places in once. This happened to me about 3 time during the active part. For me i felt really in the moment and great, you didnt worry about anything you just did what was required of you. Im not sure if this part was the cs or me but the next day i went to the mall and felt very naucious and spaced out literally. I know it sounds weird but i felt like my concious was spread out amongst a larger area and as a result i had difficulty balancing because here i am this wide thing balancing upon a small pair of legs. I would love to try some more but safety is my concern now. love and peace Damian On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 10:59 +1000, damian wrote: Yeah your right about making cs while bubbling ozone through. It just make a horrible mess of large particles and grey solution. However when you have finished making it the normal way event just ozonating the solution for 1 minute takes the ppm up from 6 to 12 and color go from yellow to clear. It is too early to say but when i took my first mouth full psycho active affects appeared. It is only now that they are just about gone. It has probably been 4 days since the initial trial. The batch i took a mouth full from had only been ozonated for 1 minute if i recall correctly. I try to limit the ozonation time because the longer you ozonate the more the ph drops. The lowest and stable has been 2.6 love and peace Damian On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 11:48 -0500, Ode Coyote wrote: Ozone [O3]and Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2], both have an unstable Oxygen atom that will scavenge the Oxygen atom out of Silver Oxide. It will also oxidize a silver ion, making another form of silver oxide. *When* either is used, counts. If you bubble Ozone through the water as the EIS is being made, it will probably be yellow to black, or result in big flakes of silver metal, like when running a generator with H2O2 in the water. Run some through a very fresh batch of EIS [CS] Make some with the O3 being bubbled through. and tell us what happens. Note: if you aren't feeding the Ozone generator pure oxygen, you will likely make some Silver Nitrate along with everything else. ode At 11:34 AM 11/3/2007 +1000, you wrote: Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.18/1104 - Release Date: 11/1/2007 6:47 PM
CSCS OZone
Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS OZone
Respected Damian: We brewed home-made silverwater for years, and we have no sophisticated aparatus for measuring PPM etc. We do see a yellowish color now and then, and it either disappears or falls to the bottom of our water. The we use it anyway. We do filter with cottonwool if there is any color. Yet we prefer clear water for our clients ..it is that more attractive, and it does not cause any questions.. Clear water we get by brewing from the brands Manatial (which seems rather south-American) or le Bleu, which may even be obtained elsewhere in the world (the States?) Le Bleu has given us the best results, Manatial is second best. Take Care, FaithStFrancis, Medellin, Colombia From: dmona...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:34:46 +1000 Subject: CSCS OZone Hi Im new to this list. i have been making cs for some time now. The other day i brewed a light yellow 6ppm cs after which ozonated the solution for 2hrs. The yellow tinge dissapeared. The laser got dimmer and the weight or viscosity of the solution seemed to change. I have measureed the solution for a couple of days now and the ph stays around 2.6 My question is has anyone else done any investigation with ozonating cs and is it safe to take love and peace Damian -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
