Re: CSCS wattage
What would work is a timer motor. They're inexpensive, and can be found in, probably, 6 or 12 rpm versions. I found that air bubblers and high speed motors with wire or other type impellers caused large amounts of sparklers (silver crystals, I presume). Attach a flat piece of plastic to the shaft and it will stir the water gently without causing any disturbance to the process. Just do a search for timer motors on the internet and you will find them. They're designed for operating electrical switches. Good luck! Al - Original Message - From: Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: CSCS wattage Now, I just need to figure out how to make a stirring unit, one idea so far is incorporating a 12v windshield washer pump, taking water from the top of the jug and pushing it out at the bottom along the wall of the curved glass.just an idea so far, my luck all the pumps will be metal. Respectfully, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Hi Terry, I would guess that any voltage within reason could be used to make CS as it is the energy put into the cell that does the work. The only problem with 600 v DC might be that the instantaneous energy may be so high that large chuncks are blasted off the wires. To answer that would be expensive as each set up to arive at an optinum would require a T.E.M. at $75.00. That would be a whole bunch of money. As mentioned earlier the area under a current time curve when multip[led by voltage is the energy needed to make the CS. It would be a lot of math but it could be worked out. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Hi Rich, Go to Radio Shack and buy their 1 1/2v dc motor for $1.50 glue it on to the lid. For a stirrer use a 3 length of #14 insulated house wire. Slid the copper out about 1/4 and cut it off. the other end will slid on to the motor shaft. Put about a 15 deg bend in the far end. Limit the current as the little dude will stir up a storm. Ole Bob; -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
All Electronics and Hosfelt both sell surplus 30 rpm motors for less than $3. They work well as stirring motors. Make a short coupling out of a piece of vinyl tubing to couple the motor shaft to a plastic paddle. I agree - air bubblers result in a large number of tiny cruddies which make decanting more difficult. Slow stirring usually results in one or two larger cruddies which sluff off the silver wires when they are removed from the brew. Intermediate wire wipe-offs can result in less crud in the brew. Happy New Year, and welcome to the real new millineum. --Steve - Original Message - From: Alfred Davis adav...@austin.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:15 AM Subject: Re: CSCS wattage What would work is a timer motor. They're inexpensive, and can be found in, probably, 6 or 12 rpm versions. I found that air bubblers and high speed motors with wire or other type impellers caused large amounts of sparklers (silver crystals, I presume). Attach a flat piece of plastic to the shaft and it will stir the water gently without causing any disturbance to the process. Just do a search for timer motors on the internet and you will find them. They're designed for operating electrical switches. Good luck! Al -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Hello Terry, Sunday, December 30, 2001, 8:32:46 PM, you wrote: TC Wayne Fugitt said: TC Do you think something similar to a wattage factor TC applies? TC Terry responds: TC Years ago, when I was taking my Electronic Servicing TC Technology classes (long name for 'TV repair'), I TC received a bit, a tad, a smattering of electronics TC theory. My understanding was that wattage simply TC referred to energy being given off in the form of TC heat, caused by the friction of electrons flowing TC against resistance (ohms). (I may not have this TC right.) TC You can have a dial for adjusting voltage or current TC (amperage), but I've never heard of a wattage dial. In TC making CS, you only need to regulate voltage and TC current, not wattage. Wattage is a by-product of the TC interaction of voltage, current and resistance, as TC smoke or heat is of the activity of fire. Am I right, TC technical types? Wattage is usually used when the term volt-amps is more correct. And, while most people assume they are the same, they are not. They are only the same if the current and voltage are in phase. If the current leads, or lags, the voltage, the wattage changes, but the volt-amps do not. This is where electric ultitlities can actually get ripped off, as they make electricity in volt-amps, and sell it in watts. For companies that use a lot of power, the local utility will usually insist that transformers and motors are of the high power factor type. This keeps the current and voltage more in phase, and allows the utility to charge properly for the energy consumed. Wattage should never be used as a reference in making colloidal silver, as it can change wildly. As an example, one of my HVAC units can dump 900 watts into a batch. But, there is no corrolation between the wattage of that and, say, a simple LVDC setup that produces the same PPM in the same amount of time. The wattage on the LVDC unit will be a fraction of the HVAC unit. -- Best regards, Solar -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Here is my take on it...knowledge courtesy of the USN. Power (P), measured in Watts is directly proportional to Voltage (E) and current (I). P=I * E, as one can see, if you change the voltage or current your changing the value of power. Also, P= (I * I) * R, where R equals the resistance in ohms. Again, one can see by adjusting the resistance one will affect the power. So, a wattage dial can actually be tweaking the resistance or voltage component and labeled as such so one knows what watts they are trying to adjust. Otherwise, they would have to impart the formulas to figure out themselves. So, when making CS, power, in watts, changes when the voltage is changed. Another way power is changed if using a constant voltage source, the water will get less resistive as brewing goes on, the current therefore will increase and so will the power being consumed. My $0.02. Now, I just need to figure out how to make a stirring unit, one idea so far is incorporating a 12v windshield washer pump, taking water from the top of the jug and pushing it out at the bottom along the wall of the curved glass.just an idea so far, my luck all the pumps will be metal. Respectfully, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com You can have a dial for adjusting voltage or current (amperage), but I've never heard of a wattage dial. In making CS, you only need to regulate voltage and current, not wattage. Wattage is a by-product of the interaction of voltage, current and resistance, as smoke or heat is of the activity of fire. Am I right, technical types? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
