RE: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Marshall,

This is from vague memory, and I cannot recall where I read it, perhaps in
some of Betty Martini's writing, but there is something going on with the
labeling  requirements for Aspartame, that does not require it to be listed
below certain levels or something like that.  I will try to find my
reference. I suppose one could write the makers.

On the other hand, they may have gotten smart and removed it. I hope so,
because Pediolyte is so very useful.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
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  From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:16 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also


  James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
 Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and carefully,
to a real time blood sampler in a toe vein.  They carefully inserted a tube
into the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of various solutions into
the dog's stomach.  CS, CS with MSM, etc.  Brooks wrote an informal report
that is in the archives. When the following balance of Lactated Ringer's
solution CS, and MSM was used, the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that
within the same time range as when only CS was used .   Voila; near IV
results without the poke.  Lactated Ringer's solution is a standard water
and electrolyte replacement solution used commonly in modern medical
practice.  It is most often administered IV. Pedialyte (spelling?) is very
similar, but unfortunately contains aspartame, a deadly neurotoxin. It is
used to orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and other conditions that cause
them to loose lots water and electrolytes.  I used it to keep my kids out of
the hospital on an IV on several occasions, but will wait till someone makes
a version w/o aspartame before using it ever again.
  I recall seeing aspertame on the ingredients of Pediolyte also. But I just
checked several bottles of it tonight, both the unflavored and several
flavors, and it no longer lists aspertame in the ingredients.  It now has
sucaryl or something like that.
  I compared Pediolyte to Gaterade, and although similar they are quite
different.  The second ingredient (first is water), is glucose (aka
dextrose) for Pediolyte and sucrose (cane sugar) for Gaterade.  Also
Gaterade contains citric acid which Pdeiolyte does not.

  Marshall



Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
I will have to check a gatorade label, but this is what is in the
Ringers Lactate solution:

http://users.gloryroad.net/~emt/drugs/lring.html

Electrolytes Found in 1 L of L.R.
 Sodium - 130 mEq
Chloride - 109 mEq
Potassium - 4 mEq
Calcium - 3 mEq
Lactate - 28 mEq

No what I am wondering is this.  It is possible that for some reason
this combination does NOT combine with the silver ions and make silver
chloride like regular salt does?  If so that would explain the 4X
increase in blood level.

It might be interesting to mix this up and use a laser to see if there
appears to be any AgCl precipitate.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

  Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and
 carefully, to a real time blood sampler in a toe vein.  They carefully
 inserted a tube into the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of
 various solutions into the dog's stomach.  CS, CS with MSM, etc.
 Brooks wrote an informal report that is in the archives. When the
 following balance of Lactated Ringer's solution CS, and MSM was used,
 the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that within the same time range as
 when only CS was used .   Voila; near IV results without the poke.
 Lactated Ringer's solution is a standard water and electrolyte
 replacement solution used commonly in modern medical practice.  It is
 most often administered IV. Pedialyte (spelling?) is very similar, but
 unfortunately contains aspartame, a deadly neurotoxin. It is used to
 orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and other conditions that cause
 them to loose lots water and electrolytes.  I used it to keep my kids
 out of the hospital on an IV on several occasions, but will wait till
 someone makes a version w/o aspartame before using it ever again.  The
 electrolytes and MSM enhance transport of the CS into the vascular
 system, and also through the cell walls. Gatorade is essentially
 Lactated Ringer's solution with added color.  I have seen a clear
 version. You can get Lactated Ringer's at an animal feed store.  If
 you try to buy it at a pharmacy you will need script---I say old boy,
 we can't have the property treating itself without our cut and
 permission, can we? All 4 leg animal meds are the same quality as
 biped meds; USP.  They just cost less. You don't need to explain; just
 know what you want, the quantities it comes in and an approximate
 reasonable price and ask for it. Just don't act like a kid trying to
 buy amyl nitrate for, ...my uncle's heart condition.  You are not a
 bad guy because you want to take some responsibility for your own
 health decisions and pay less for the same stuff. Brooks' Ratio:10 PPM
 [Same as Mg/L] Colloidal Silver.  More or less concentration  of the
 CS is not critical.  One US fluid ounce.[I don't really know, but I
 don't think anyone can make very-small-particle high-Zeta CS much
 above about 20 PPM because of the nature of it.  Closer particles hit
 and stick more often, making bigger ones. This may have changed. The
 people with the most experience say 5 PPM works just fine.  I avoid
 MSP because of the rumors that it is associated with Argyria.
 ] Ringers Lactate:  Three ounces.MSM:  1/4 teaspoon.  James-Osbourne:
 Holmes

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  From: mars larz [mailto:pp...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:03 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that
  also

   form...@aol.com wrote:

   I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade
   improves assimilation.
   Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does
   that, and is there some other option that drinking
   Gatorade?
   Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
   Thanks,
   Summer

   I requested that sme information a month aago and
   got no answer.  Whats up with Gatorade and cs?
   any body out there?

  thank you


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Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-26 Thread Ode Coyote


I don't know exactly why but ever since gatoraid came out so many years ago, I discovered that, no matter how fast I drank it...it never seemed to 'hit bottom'.
Well, back in those days it was common to consume various illicit substances and do a little drinking.
A shot in Gatoraid is you're drunk, RIGHT NOW
Virtually anything else mixed up with gatoraid is, RIGHT NOW!  No waiting.

The counter culture has known about gatoraid for decades as the next fastest thing to inhaling, almost as fast as a needle...and a whole lot safer.

The way it was invented was, somebody analysed sweat, made a drink to imitate it and flavored it so it was palatable.  What comes out easily, goes right in easily.

Ken

At 08:03 PM 9/25/02 -0700, you wrote: 

form...@aol.com wrote: 
I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some other option that drinking Gatorade?  
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer 

I requested that sme information a month aago and got no answer.  Whats up with Gatorade and cs?  any body out there?


thank you



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Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-26 Thread Marshall Dudley
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

  Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and
 carefully, to a real time blood sampler in a toe vein.  They carefully
 inserted a tube into the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of
 various solutions into the dog's stomach.  CS, CS with MSM, etc.
 Brooks wrote an informal report that is in the archives. When the
 following balance of Lactated Ringer's solution CS, and MSM was used,
 the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that within the same time range as
 when only CS was used .   Voila; near IV results without the poke.
 Lactated Ringer's solution is a standard water and electrolyte
 replacement solution used commonly in modern medical practice.  It is
 most often administered IV. Pedialyte (spelling?) is very similar, but
 unfortunately contains aspartame, a deadly neurotoxin. It is used to
 orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and other conditions that cause
 them to loose lots water and electrolytes.  I used it to keep my kids
 out of the hospital on an IV on several occasions, but will wait till
 someone makes a version w/o aspartame before using it ever again.

I recall seeing aspertame on the ingredients of Pediolyte also. But I
just checked several bottles of it tonight, both the unflavored and
several flavors, and it no longer lists aspertame in the ingredients.
It now has sucaryl or something like that.

I compared Pediolyte to Gaterade, and although similar they are quite
different.  The second ingredient (first is water), is glucose (aka
dextrose) for Pediolyte and sucrose (cane sugar) for Gaterade.  Also
Gaterade contains citric acid which Pdeiolyte does not.

Marshall


CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread Formedz
I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some other 
option that drinking Gatorade?  
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer


Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-25 Thread mars larz

 
 form...@aol.com wrote:
I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some other 
option that drinking Gatorade?  
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer 

I requested that sme information a month aago and got no answer.  Whats up with 
Gatorade and cs?   any body out there?


thank you


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Re: CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread Formedz
I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no 
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.
Does anyone know please?

Summer


RE: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and carefully, to a
real time blood sampler in a toe vein.  They carefully inserted a tube into
the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of various solutions into the
dog's stomach.  CS, CS with MSM, etc.  Brooks wrote an informal report that
is in the archives.

When the following balance of Lactated Ringer's solution CS, and MSM was
used, the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that within the same time range as
when only CS was used .   Voila; near IV results without the poke.  Lactated
Ringer's solution is a standard water and electrolyte replacement solution
used commonly in modern medical practice.  It is most often administered IV.

Pedialyte (spelling?) is very similar, but unfortunately contains aspartame,
a deadly neurotoxin. It is used to orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and
other conditions that cause them to loose lots water and electrolytes.  I
used it to keep my kids out of the hospital on an IV on several occasions,
but will wait till someone makes a version w/o aspartame before using it
ever again.

 The electrolytes and MSM enhance transport of the CS into the vascular
system, and also through the cell walls.

Gatorade is essentially Lactated Ringer's solution with added color.  I have
seen a clear version.

You can get Lactated Ringer's at an animal feed store.  If you try to buy it
at a pharmacy you will need script---I say old boy, we can't have the
property treating itself without our cut and permission, can we?

All 4 leg animal meds are the same quality as biped meds; USP.  They just
cost less. You don't need to explain; just know what you want, the
quantities it comes in and an approximate reasonable price and ask for it.

Just don't act like a kid trying to buy amyl nitrate for, ...my uncle's
heart condition.  You are not a bad guy because you want to take some
responsibility for your own health decisions and pay less for the same
stuff.

Brooks' Ratio:

10 PPM [Same as Mg/L] Colloidal Silver.  More or less concentration  of the
CS is not critical.  One US fluid ounce.

[I don't really know, but I don't think anyone can make very-small-particle
high-Zeta CS much above about 20 PPM because of the nature of it.  Closer
particles hit and stick more often, making bigger ones. This may have
changed. The people with the most experience say 5 PPM works just fine.
I avoid MSP because of the rumors that it is associated with Argyria. ]

Ringers Lactate:  Three ounces.

MSM:  1/4 teaspoon.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: mars larz [mailto:pp...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:03 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also




   form...@aol.com wrote:

I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some
other option that drinking Gatorade?
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer

I requested that sme information a month aago and got no answer.  Whats
up with Gatorade and cs?  any body out there?



  thank you





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RE: CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
A good question for a molecular biologist with a minor in physical
chemistry.  I wish we had one that would descend to this list.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:33 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide


  I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.
  Does anyone know please?

  Summer