Re: CSCS safety
On 10/28/2007, Starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote: I mentioned this a few yrs ago but I don't think anyone noticed. For one of the best electrolyte formulas, far superior to Gatorade, go to: gookinaid.com How is this better than Emergen-C? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
H... This may be a very dumb questions, but would you add Emergen-C to CS? Would it do what Gatorade is reported to do? Del - Original Message - From: Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: CSCS safety On 10/28/2007, Starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote: I mentioned this a few yrs ago but I don't think anyone noticed. For one of the best electrolyte formulas, far superior to Gatorade, go to: gookinaid.com How is this better than Emergen-C? -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
Alacer also makes an electrolyte mix without sugars of any kind- ElectroMix. Nancy On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Simon Jester wrote: On 10/28/2007, Starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote: I mentioned this a few yrs ago but I don't think anyone noticed. For one of the best electrolyte formulas, far superior to Gatorade, go to: gookinaid.com How is this better than Emergen-C? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
I used to add Gatorade to my CS, until they started adding high fructose corn syrup to it. As soon as I saw that on the list of ingredients, I stopped using it, and advise everyone else to do the same. I don't think there is any Gatorade for sale now that does not contain HFCS. Del - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: CSCS safety The only risk for Agryia is consuming too much silver over too short a time span and having an abnormal metals elimination system. Gatoraid does not increase the amount of silver and there's not enough silver in a 20 PPM solution to make you blue without water toxicity killing you first. The Chloride reaction takes a little bit of time to complete, but is slower than the enhanced absorption rate, so, if using Gatoraid, mix and use immediatelydo not store. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
I mentioned this a few yrs ago but I don't think anyone noticed. For one of the best electrolyte formulas, far superior to Gatorade, go to: gookinaid.com Used by athletes worldwide. The sweetener is pure glucose which is at least better than sucrose, let alone fructose. Sharon I used to add Gatorade to my CS, until they started adding high fructose corn syrup to it. As soon as I saw that on the list of ingredients, I stopped using it, and advise everyone else to do the same. I don't think there is any Gatorade for sale now that does not contain HFCS. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
The only risk for Agryia is consuming too much silver over too short a time span and having an abnormal metals elimination system. Gatoraid does not increase the amount of silver and there's not enough silver in a 20 PPM solution to make you blue without water toxicity killing you first. The Chloride reaction takes a little bit of time to complete, but is slower than the enhanced absorption rate, so, if using Gatoraid, mix and use immediatelydo not store. ode At 10:28 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, you wrote: It has been suggested in the past to enhance availability of CS after making to add concentrace or gatorde. Both have chloride. Does this pose any risk for agyria? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: 10/25/2007 5:38 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: 10/25/2007 5:38 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: It has been suggested in the past to enhance availability of CS after making to add concentrace or gatorde. Both have chloride. Does this pose any risk for agyria? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com This is covered in the document at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Internal and http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator The short answer is that it poses no risk since all ionic silver gets converted to chloride in the stomach anyway, and the colloidal part is an agyria preventative. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
It has been suggested in the past to enhance availability of CS after making to add concentrace or gatorde. Both have chloride. Does this pose any risk for agyria? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: CSCS safety
So very true I wouldn't live without my CS! Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote: This from the MDI_news forum = Every documented case of Argyria was caused NOT from CS, but from *other* forms of silver that ARE WELL KNOWN TO CAUSE ARGYRIA. The only two people that I know of (I don't know anyone personally, but recall these two from online forums like this one) who exhibited symptoms of Argyria from 'CS' - in quotes because regardless of the fact that they *thought* they were using CS, in reality they were *not* - it turned out they were not using pure water to make their 'CS', but were deliberately adding electrolytes (sea-salt in one case, concentrace minerals in the other, if I'm not mistaken) to the water BEFORE making it - and it is well documented that using water with 'salt' in it will result in NOT CS, but in silver salt compounds that will, indeed cause argyria. CS simply doesn't do this. There are far too many people who have been using it for far too long with not only no problems with argyria, but extremely beneficial and satisfactory results to even consider your comments as anything other than ignorant - and no offense intended, nothing wrong with ignorance, unless it is 'deliberate'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSCS safety
This from the MDI_news forum = Every documented case of Argyria was caused NOT from CS, but from *other* forms of silver that ARE WELL KNOWN TO CAUSE ARGYRIA. The only two people that I know of (I don't know anyone personally, but recall these two from online forums like this one) who exhibited symptoms of Argyria from 'CS' - in quotes because regardless of the fact that they *thought* they were using CS, in reality they were *not* - it turned out they were not using pure water to make their 'CS', but were deliberately adding electrolytes (sea-salt in one case, concentrace minerals in the other, if I'm not mistaken) to the water BEFORE making it - and it is well documented that using water with 'salt' in it will result in NOT CS, but in silver salt compounds that will, indeed cause argyria. CS simply doesn't do this. There are far too many people who have been using it for far too long with not only no problems with argyria, but extremely beneficial and satisfactory results to even consider your comments as anything other than ignorant - and no offense intended, nothing wrong with ignorance, unless it is 'deliberate'... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS safety
What kind of lab? JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS safety Standard laboratory procedures. On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 14:40, Stuff wrote: At 11:25 AM 4/11/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. I do, except for the word all, which he never used is his post. And just what does that slippery term proper methodologies mean? We're all experimenters here, last I heard. Yes, Terry. This world runs primarily on fear of just about everything. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS safety
Shouldn't matter, good standard scientific procedure. Why all the questions? On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 02:35, James Holmes wrote: What kind of lab? JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS safety Standard laboratory procedures. On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 14:40, Stuff wrote: At 11:25 AM 4/11/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. I do, except for the word all, which he never used is his post. And just what does that slippery term proper methodologies mean? We're all experimenters here, last I heard. Yes, Terry. This world runs primarily on fear of just about everything. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS safety
At 04:46 PM 4/13/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: Shouldn't matter, good standard scientific procedure. Why all the questions? I suppose it's good for you that you have such faith in good scientific procedure, whatever that might mean. To me, good science is in the application and the results, what I call personally applied science. But then, am I sure that what I might do in a particular treatment was the *cause* of the result? This takes a tremendous amount of work and diligence because there are almost always 'n' [unlimited] factors at work in any given treatment/application. There is a very large amount of junk science out there if you haven't noticed. And the best thing we do, we humans, is lie to ourselves. That's what creates this junk. It's all mostly guesswork from where I sit unless I nail down the results myself...with a big hammer. The ultimate authority is me. I've now ranted enuf on the topic and will say no more. stuff On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 02:35, James Holmes wrote: What kind of lab? JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS safety Standard laboratory procedures. On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 14:40, Stuff wrote: At 11:25 AM 4/11/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. I do, except for the word all, which he never used is his post. And just what does that slippery term proper methodologies mean? We're all experimenters here, last I heard. Yes, Terry. This world runs primarily on fear of just about everything. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS safety
William Meyer said: ..you are creating all kinds of silver compounds by mixing the ionic silver with other substances. No, William, compounds are not created by putting two or more minerals together in the same container. Otherwise all liquid mineral supplements would be dangerous, because we could not know what compounds might have formed from all those minerals mixed together in the supplement. The dynamic that forms compounds is the electrolytic process that is the foundation of how we make CS. We avoid using mineralized water to make CS because we FEAR the possibility that such compounds may be created. This fear is, in my opinion, almost paranoid in intensity. If the presence of a few minerals in the distilled water that most of us use (a few minerals that might have gotten in by not thoroughly rinsing the jars we make CS in), was even 1/100th as dangerous or risky as people fear, then it would be absolute catastrophe to use tap or river water, and we would have heard of numerous reports of the consequences of it. In fact, folks all over the world use water we wouldn't even drink to make CS. Where are the blue people? Not only can the FDA not produce any reports in the US of anyone having any toxic or agyrious consequences from any CS that is not made to be a compound (silver nitrate, etc.), they don't even know of anyone in the WORLD who has done so (Yes, I'm sure they will soon be using Stan Jones as ammunition). Everyone on this List has heard of how folks used to put a silver dollar in a bottle of milk to retard spoilage. What kind of compounds would you be afraid of happening there? But no one turned blue of had any liver damage that I ever heard of. I don't want to turn into some kind of Champion of The Safety of Silver, but I am watching the level of fear on this List of the possibility of making a mistake when making CS continue to grow and grow. People talk about making a bad batch of CS, which I assume means CS that is cloudy or has color. I have never thrown away a batch yet. Before I started using a timer to shut off my batches, I would occasionally over-cook one, 'till it was coffee-colored. I would drink it anyway. Stan Jones did it everyday, and it still took over two years before his supposed argyria occured. To follow this over-cautious mentality that I am seeing nowadays, it would be dangerous to even take CS after meals, because it might form a compound with the minerals in your food! After nearly five years of freely guzzling CS (with the only result of almost no sickness in my family), I have seen, heard or read nothing that shakes my confidence in the absolute safety of CS/EIS. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
There is a large gap between the paranoia and irrational fear you are talking about Terry and what the rest of the list is addressing. Which is good methodology and procedures. There is no substitute for good methodologies and they are in and of themselves worthy of pursuing. I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. And the fact that you have not seen blue people nor turned blue yourself means nothing to those who simply want to do it right for the sake of making a pure product. This is a worthy goal in and of itself. The side benefit is that one can rest well knowing that one is consuming no silver salts. And yes minerals do interact outside of the process of electrolysis, otherwise we would all be dead as they would not interact properly in our bodies. Your heart would not be beating in your chest right now if your assumptions were correct. Take a look at how a never impulse or action potential is propagated in any good physiology text book. Garnet On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 11:02, Terry Chamberlin wrote: William Meyer said: ..you are creating all kinds of silver compounds by mixing the ionic silver with other substances. No, William, compounds are not created by putting two or more minerals together in the same container. Otherwise all liquid mineral supplements would be dangerous, because we could not know what compounds might have formed from all those minerals mixed together in the supplement. The dynamic that forms compounds is the electrolytic process that is the foundation of how we make CS. We avoid using mineralized water to make CS because we FEAR the possibility that such compounds may be created. This fear is, in my opinion, almost paranoid in intensity. If the presence of a few minerals in the distilled water that most of us use (a few minerals that might have gotten in by not thoroughly rinsing the jars we make CS in), was even 1/100th as dangerous or risky as people fear, then it would be absolute catastrophe to use tap or river water, and we would have heard of numerous reports of the consequences of it. In fact, folks all over the world use water we wouldn't even drink to make CS. Where are the blue people? Not only can the FDA not produce any reports in the US of anyone having any toxic or agyrious consequences from any CS that is not made to be a compound (silver nitrate, etc.), they don't even know of anyone in the WORLD who has done so (Yes, I'm sure they will soon be using Stan Jones as ammunition). Everyone on this List has heard of how folks used to put a silver dollar in a bottle of milk to retard spoilage. What kind of compounds would you be afraid of happening there? But no one turned blue of had any liver damage that I ever heard of. I don't want to turn into some kind of Champion of The Safety of Silver, but I am watching the level of fear on this List of the possibility of making a mistake when making CS continue to grow and grow. People talk about making a bad batch of CS, which I assume means CS that is cloudy or has color. I have never thrown away a batch yet. Before I started using a timer to shut off my batches, I would occasionally over-cook one, 'till it was coffee-colored. I would drink it anyway. Stan Jones did it everyday, and it still took over two years before his supposed argyria occured. To follow this over-cautious mentality that I am seeing nowadays, it would be dangerous to even take CS after meals, because it might form a compound with the minerals in your food! After nearly five years of freely guzzling CS (with the only result of almost no sickness in my family), I have seen, heard or read nothing that shakes my confidence in the absolute safety of CS/EIS. Terry Chamberlin __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
At 11:25 AM 4/11/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. I do, except for the word all, which he never used is his post. And just what does that slippery term proper methodologies mean? We're all experimenters here, last I heard. Yes, Terry. This world runs primarily on fear of just about everything. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS safety
Standard laboratory procedures. On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 14:40, Stuff wrote: At 11:25 AM 4/11/2004 -0500, Garnet wrote: I do not buy into your vision of all of those who are interested in proper methodologies as fearful and paranoid. I do, except for the word all, which he never used is his post. And just what does that slippery term proper methodologies mean? We're all experimenters here, last I heard. Yes, Terry. This world runs primarily on fear of just about everything. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
