Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
If it is after a shower and you are on city water you may be reacting to the chlorine or other toxins in city water. You might want to buy a shower filter if you are on city water. Most allergies and sensitivities are related to the gut and immune balance. The liver is part of this but liver dysfunction is an effect not a cause. Candida can also cause skin rashes, but where there is Candida over growth there is immune insufficiency for one reason or another. Fungus is an opportunist preying on a weakened organism. It is not the initial cause although given the right growth conditions, it can bring down a space station, as it did to Mer, so it is little wonder it can bring down a human body when other conditions have weakened the system. Skin reacts to irritants and allergens, and many times a rash is a histamine reaction to an allergen. When the body is in an inflamed state it becomes more sensitive so it depends on the overall state of health and oxidative stress levels. When excessive levels of Nitric Oxide are being produced in the mitochondria a complex chain of events occurs in the cell that can lead to allergies, immune insufficiency, cancer, cardiac disease, CFS, FM, MCS and neurotransmitter imbalances. One way to test for allergy to food is to mix it with a little distilled water and put a spot on the forearm, palm side, let it dry over night and check for a reaction in the morning. This is suggested in the GAPS diet protocol as a way to check for food sensitivity while the gut is in the process of healing from leaky gut syndrome. As the gut heals the sensitivities resolve, gradually and foods that were once problematic can be eaten. So I disagree that is is 'always' the liver although the Cytochrome P 450 proteins in the liver and elsewhere that detox the body can be deficient in high oxidative stress.This is not a liver problem per se, it is an oxidative stress problem, and is effecting heme protein synthesis in all cells not just liver. So addressing it as a liver issue alone will not heal this. Increasing Glutathione production may help but more anti-oxidants are needed, Co Q 10, Vit C, Vit E, Pycnogenol are a few that will help. If there are errors in heme metabolism then B6 and Zinc may be needed along with a host of supporting nutrients. One test is too look for Pyrroles in the urine. A hallmark is low stress tolerance and anxiety among others. It is a spectrum disorder so no absolute markers, and if tests for pyrroles are negative it dose not mean that is not in play, could just be that the test was done at a low stress time or that the sample was mishandled, as Pyrroles are heat and light labile. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria Leaky gut allows partially digested food to get into inappropriate places in the peritoneal cavity where the immune system perceives it as foreign substance and reacts. When the gut wall is healed and no longer leaks then these food allergies and often chemical allergies are no longer active. This has nothing to do with the liver and everything to do with the health of the gut wall. Many feel that pyrroles may play a role, oxidative stress is present and the body of some genotypes are more susceptible, can't handle the sugars and high carbs, rancid fats, environmental chems, antibiotics . . . etc that other more functional genotypes are able to cope with. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GAPShelp is a good list for learning about gut healing and food sensitivity. Janet Leslie Blake wrote: I’ve been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think. Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I’ve had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now it’s fairly feint. It’s usually more pronounced after a show. It doesn’t itch – it’s just there. I’ve consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn’t reduce it. Might CS help me with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Les -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
My brain just kicked in with the possiblity that chlorine in the shower water might be causing the skin rash. I had that problem for years and nobody knew what it was or how to treat something that was just bothersome but not a medically invasive problem. First I had double carbon water filters on my shower arm and they were great, but expensive to replace. More recently have graduated to this filter from Lowes. http://www.lowes.com/pd_123904-51915-SL-WH-R_0_?productId=3130199Ntt=shower+filterNtk=i_productspl=1currentURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=shower It only removes chlorine and it does that by converting it to chloride. If memory serves correctly, it is KDF inside. When mine needs changing, my hair gets very dry and my skin begins to itch even before I begin smelling chlorine. Fw: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:55:32 AM From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com In a message dated 8/8/2010 12:34:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes: Is the glycerine to thicken it? Glycerin is to keep the skin from drying DMSO can cause skin to dry. My son uses the mix on his legs---they get dry break out in the summer...He just needs to put it on in the morning every two or three days...he does rinse his legs with distilled water to make sure the DMSO doesn't carry anything through the skin that isn't supposed to be there ... Fw: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:10:38 PM From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (why after a show? What type of show and what would you be contacting there that you may be allergic to?) Dear Renee, I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style. Les, I kinda think the comments about liver congestion might be on point. Peace, Mike D. ---Original Message--- Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I’ve had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now it’s fairly feint. It’s usually more pronounced after a show. It doesn’t itch – it’s just there. I’ve consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn’t reduce it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
Is the glycerine to thicken it?
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:08 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 8/7/2010 2:04:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blake@btinternet.com writes:
I’ve been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping
to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think.
Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I’ve had a strange (benign) rash,
starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side
of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised
but right now it’s fairly feint. It’s usually more pronounced after a show.
It doesn’t itch – it’s just there.I’ve consulted dermatologists in the
UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more
rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn’t reduce it.Might CS help me
with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated.Thanks in
anticipation. Les
*Hi Les, you might try Brooks Mix I have given it to
several people with skin problems it has helped...might help,-- might
not,-- but can't hurt to try...Lois*
* Mix is-75% CS/EIS -10% DMSO-15% glycerine.. Good luck.
*
* (3 shots )-( 1 shot ) ( a
little over a shot ) ( I use a regular drink mix shot glass. ) The mix
will get warm when you add the DMSO to the CS/EIS . {{ No explosion --
:-)}}*
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
In a message dated 8/8/2010 12:34:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes: Is the glycerine to thicken it? Glycerin is to keep the skin from drying DMSO can cause skin to dry. My son uses the mix on his legs---they get dry break out in the summer...He just needs to put it on in the morning every two or three days...he does rinse his legs with distilled water to make sure the DMSO doesn't carry anything through the skin that isn't supposed to be there ...
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
In a message dated 8/7/2010 2:04:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
blake@btinternet.com writes:
I’ve been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping
to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think.
Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I’ve had a strange (benign) rash,
starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side
of
the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but
right now it’s fairly feint. It’s usually more pronounced after a show.
It doesn’t itch – it’s just there. I’ve consulted dermatologists in the
UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more
rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn’t reduce it.Might CS help me
with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated.Thanks in anticipation.
Les
Hi Les, you might try Brooks Mix I have given it to several
people with skin problems it has helped...might help,-- might not,-- but
can't hurt to try...Lois
Mix is-75% CS/EIS -10% DMSO-15% glycerine.. Good luck.
(3 shots )-( 1 shot ) ( a little
over a shot ) ( I use a regular drink mix shot glass. ) The mix will get
warm when you add the DMSO to the CS/EIS . {{ No explosion -- :-)}}
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
(why after a show? What type of show and what would you be contacting there that you may be allergic to?) Dear Renee, I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style. Les, I kinda think the comments about liver congestion might be on point. Peace, Mike D. ---Original Message--- Dose CS have any effect of skin ? Ive had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now its fairly feint. Its usually more pronounced after a show. It doesnt itch its just there.Ive consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesnt reduce it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
Ah! I was thinking he was going to dog shows, or horse shows or something. Still, any skin issue is a liver issue at it's core. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style.
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
Not necessarily. In Chinese Medicine the Lung system rules the skin so there could be some of that involved also. Any possible lung issues going on? PT - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Ah! I was thinking he was going to dog shows, or horse shows or something. Still, any skin issue is a liver issue at it's core. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style.
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
I concur with the liver issue! On 08/08/2010 2:01 PM, needling around wrote: Not necessarily. In Chinese Medicine the Lung system rules the skin so there could be some of that involved also. Any possible lung issues going on? PT - Original Message - *From:* Renee mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:38 PM *Subject:* Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Ah! I was thinking he was going to dog shows, or horse shows or something. Still, any skin issue is a liver issue at it's core. Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style.
RE: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash / HOW ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF OWN URINE?
Well, my Friends, Cs may of course work, yet there is another cure which will sure do the job, and which is as old as the history of mankind: Apply your own urine, and do it regularly. Leave it on the affected areas for a while, then wash. Maybe it is good (before raising your eyebrows) to look up Urine Therapy in your browser. Good to be here again, Faith St. Francis, Bogota, Colombia Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:41:37 -0600 From: healthl...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash I concur with the liver issue! On 08/08/2010 2:01 PM, needling around wrote: Not necessarily. In Chinese Medicine the Lung system rules the skin so there could be some of that involved also. Any possible lung issues going on? PT - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash Ah! I was thinking he was going to dog shows, or horse shows or something. Still, any skin issue is a liver issue at it's core. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I read that as after a shower... just 'cause it fit the overall impression I had of Les' writing style.
CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
I've been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think. Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I've had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now it's fairly feint. It's usually more pronounced after a show. It doesn't itch - it's just there.I've consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn't reduce it. Might CS help me with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Les
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
It sometimes does depending on what is causing the rash. CS is very soothing though, so might help. dee On 07/08/2010 19:03, Leslie Blake blake@btinternet.com wrote: I¹ve been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think. Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I¹ve had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now it¹s fairly feint. It¹s usually more pronounced after a show. It doesn¹t itch it¹s just there.I¹ve consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn¹t reduce it. Might CS help me with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Les
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rashMilk compresses are known to help skin rashes. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:48 PM Subject: Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash It sometimes does - depending on what is causing the rash. CS is very soothing though, so might help. dee On 07/08/2010 19:03, Leslie Blake blake@btinternet.com wrote: I've been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping to pick up some tips and advice. Time to ask a question I think. Dose CS have any effect of skin ? I've had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now it's fairly feint. It's usually more pronounced after a show. It doesn't itch - it's just there.I've consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn't reduce it. Might CS help me with this ? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Les
Re: CSDoes CS work on a skin rash
If the rash is not a contact dermatitis (why after a show? What type of show and what would you be contacting there that you may be allergic to?) then best to do a couple good liver cleanses. Anytime something shows up on the skin, there's liver congestion. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Dose CS have any effect of skin ? Ive had a strange (benign) rash, starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side of the torso and a bit in the groin area. It sometimes is slightly raised but right now its fairly feint. Its usually more pronounced after a show. It doesnt itch its just there.Ive consulted dermatologists in the UK and USA without success. If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesnt reduce it.
