RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
Hi there Indi, Well, when it comes to EIS there are some factors which are a little more difficult to determine, but going on all the established info I just thought it prudent to discontinue the practice. I decided a long time ago that I won't let either come within cooee of each other. What's that old saying?...to be sure to be sure! Perhaps I just lack intestinal fortitude, I got plenty of gut'*,...it's courage I lack g. N. Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:09:16 -0400 From: indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I never thought of that Neville, but it's an interesting point. Maybe I will separate the use of those two by a couple of hours from now on, just to be safe. Thanks, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:39:02PM +1030, Neville Munn wrote: H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's something which could require further investigation. I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them obviously. Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a daily basis which probably helped in that decision. N. -- From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora -- From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by [1]Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 -- Sell your car fast. [2]Need a new model in your life? References Visible links 1. http://mail.bg/ 2. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline_t=774152450_r=Domain_tagline_m=EXT
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
What is bad with baking soda? Please let us know. Thora _ From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Hi there Indi, Well, when it comes to EIS there are some factors which are a little more difficult to determine, but going on all the established info I just thought it prudent to discontinue the practice. I decided a long time ago that I won't let either come within cooee of each other. What's that old saying?...to be sure to be sure! Perhaps I just lack intestinal fortitude, I got plenty of gut'*,...it's courage I lack g. N. Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:09:16 -0400 From: indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I never thought of that Neville, but it's an interesting point. Maybe I will separate the use of those two by a couple of hours from now on, just to be safe. Thanks, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:39:02PM +1030, Neville Munn wrote: H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's something which could require further investigation. I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them obviously. Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a daily basis which probably helped in that decision. N. -- From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora -- From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by [1]Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 -- Sell your car fast. [2]Need a new model in your life? References Visible links 1. http://mail.bg/ 2. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2 Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fa i%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Find your next place with Ninemsn property Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau %2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline_t=774152450_r=Domain _tagline_m=EXT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I find that bentonite clay or zeolite removes many stains from teeth. However you need to hold it in your mouth for at least 10 minutes. I usually go 20 to 30 minutes. Either bentonite clay or zeolite should bond to the silver and remove it. - Steve N From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00
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Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote: What is bad with baking soda? Please let us know. Thora Well, mixing baking soda with CS has two effects. First the increase in pH will cause the repulsion between the particles to reduce, allowing rather fast aggregation of the particles. The ionic portion will become silver bicarbonate. Now once it hits the stomach, the silver bicarbonate should become silver chloride, just like it would it there had been no baking soda. If there is sufficient soda to make the stomach alkaline, so there is NO hydrochloric acid left, it has all been neutralized to sodium chloride (salt), then I am not sure whether the silver bicarbonate will still convert to silver chloride or not. A simple test should tell though. If we try the salt test for ionic silver, after adding a little baking soda to the CS, then that should tell us whether the conversion to silver chloride takes place or not under those conditions. Marshall *From:* Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:39 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Hi there Indi, Well, when it comes to EIS there are some factors which are a little more difficult to determine, but going on all the established info I just thought it prudent to discontinue the practice. I decided a long time ago that I won't let either come within cooee of each other. What's that old saying?...to be sure to be sure! Perhaps I just lack intestinal fortitude, I got plenty of gut'*,...it's courage I lack g. N. Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:09:16 -0400 From: indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I never thought of that Neville, but it's an interesting point. Maybe I will separate the use of those two by a couple of hours from now on, just to be safe. Thanks, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:39:02PM +1030, Neville Munn wrote: H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's something which could require further investigation. I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them obviously. Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a daily basis which probably helped in that decision. N. -- From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora -- From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by [1]Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 -- Sell your car fast. [2]Need a new model in your life? References Visible links 1. http://mail.bg/ 2. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Find your next
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
Steve liquid zeolite? Jess -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I find that bentonite clay or zeolite removes many stains from teeth. However you need to hold it in your mouth for at least 10 minutes. I usually go 20 to 30 minutes. Either bentonite clay or zeolite should bond to the silver and remove it. - Steve N -- From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00
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No. Powdered zeolite. IMO there is not enough zeolite in the liquids to be effective and they are far more expensive. - Steve N From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Aug 07 10:57:52 2009 Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Steve liquid zeolite? Jess -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I find that bentonite clay or zeolite removes many stains from teeth. However you need to hold it in your mouth for at least 10 minutes. I usually go 20 to 30 minutes. Either bentonite clay or zeolite should bond to the silver and remove it. - Steve N From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00
CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG - http://mail.bg
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Hey Simeon, Although I didn't have a graying problem, my teeth have gotten slightly yellowed over the years. I have heard good results and intend to try using 2 Tablespoons H2O2 and 1 teaspoon DMSO as per the following Brooks Bradley protocol that follows. Hopefully this will help! Ruth Several times during recent years we have conducted examinations of commercial products designed to whiten teeth. We experienced very limited success. However, recently, we completed a somewhat more detailed investigation and were able to find a single product which, did, indeed, display an excellent ability to whiten teeth, quickly---and to do so without attendant pain or discomfort...at least such was our results. I feel somewhat professionally uncomfortable, even juvenile, in stating the name of the productCelebrity Sexy Teeth. In spite of its rather sophomoric identifier, this substance did, indeed, produce whitening improvements up to 8 shades among the volunteer populationsometimes within 10 to 12 days. Some of the other products had cost prices which would equal over $600.00 for a full treatment regime. None of these highly-hyped products equaled...or even approachedthe effectiveness of the Celebrity product. All of the products which exhibited any useful effect, contained varying percentages of hydrogen peroxide. However, and this is the reason for my submitting this email.we were able for a cost of mere pennies, to produce a simple mixture that was SUBSTANTIALLY more powerful than the Celebrity product (which, by the way, was not overly expensive). Our homemade solution was produced in light of the fact that we had determined the PRINCIPAL advantage of the Celebrity product seemed to lie in its superior ability to rapidly affect the deeper regions of the enamel.than did any of its competitors. After simple variations in strength ratios between common commercial, drugstore hydrogen peroxide, and DMSOwe arrived at an acceptable compromise between user comfort---and rapid results. Our most acceptable mixture (all parameters considered) turned out to be one of approximately 80% (by volume) of 3.5% Hydrogen Peroxide (the standard drugstore variety) and 20% DMSO (full strength parent solution). One easy way for the novice to mix is to pour about 2 tablespoons o! f H202 in a very small glass and about 1 teaspoon of DMSO. Caution: As DMSO is highly hygroscopic, one should always pour the DMSO into the parent diluent. The actual method-of-use of this solution is at the discretion of the experimenter. Some persons simply hold about a teaspoon of the solution in their mouth and brush their teeth with a toothbrush for about 20 seconds. However, many persons are intolerant of the bitterness of this percentage of DMSO and/or cannot tolerate the gag-reflex sometimes presenting. Therefore, the most acceptable method among a majority of our volunteers was to simply use a common Q-Tip swab which had been enlarged by adding enough additional cotton to about double the sizedip it into the solution and generously paint the front surface of the front teeth. Effectiveness was enhanced by keeping the top lip above the treated surface for about 2 minutes. It was, also, worthwhile to paint the teeth a second time about 60 seconds into ea! ch protocol. A second 2 minute application became standard procedure for the voluteers during the course of this research investigation. Some of the volunteers utilized stronger H202 solutions (up to 6%) and some employed much stronger DMSO fractions (+20%). However, the one outlined above proved to be most effective.and was DEFINITELY SUPERIOR to the commercial Celebrity product-which was the only one of the commercial variety to yield acceptable results during our investigations. None of the volunteers experienced any untoward side-effects, whatsoever, while using the paint on method just outlined. A majority of our participants enjoyed quite rapid whitening and in shorter time-spans than with the Celebrity product. Incidentlyat about 1/50th the cost. I hope some of the list membership will find this information of value. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley - Original Message - From: muk...@mail.bg To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG
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Swish with hydrogen peroxide. Chuck If you can't solve the problems of the world with chocolate chip cookies, then how can you solve them? On 8/6/2009 1:07:11 PM, muk...@mail.bg wrote: I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
Simeon - this is a copied post from Brooks: From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com on behalf of Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) Sent: Mon 4/13/09 10:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hello Dee, In answer to your question..We have utilized H202 in concentrations beyond 16%for whitening effects on teethwith minor, but sometimes irritating effects. In at least 80% of the volunteers utilizing 16% H202-tissue-burn was evident by the whitened skin surfaces (even though only the outer tissue level was involved). In a majority of these cases some discomfort did manifestbut no scarring evolved. At 12% the local heating effect was noticed by ALL participants, but presented as a distinct irritation in only about 20% of these researchers. At 9% none of our volunteers experienced any distinctive discomfort, whatever, but the sudden onset warming, momentarily, caused some of them concern. Everyone using 6% achieved excellent results and at much higher speedthan at 3.5%but I wanted to err on the side of caution.that is why I limited my recommendation to the lower concentration. Besides, 3.5% is very easily obtained from any drug store in the U.Shigher concentrations are not nearly as easy to find at the more convenient retail outlets. I might add an explanatory comment that could prove usefulSOMETIMES, among a population of persons presenting with various stages of gum insults---using even 3.5% concentration(many are not even aware of such conditions), do experience some rapid-onset stinging discomfort (usually quite short-lived). This condition evolves as a result of the accelerating effects of the oxygen's heat-releasing effects upon encountering an anaerobic debris-field, or low-grade infectious insults. It is nothing to cause major concern, but is, many times, quite unexpected. If one does choose to employ 9% strength H202, it would be advisable to have a glass of plain water handyfor dilution, just in case they desire rapid quenching of the oxidation reaction occurring within a pronounced anaerobic tissue fieldor even a very tender area. If one does, actually, incur the bleaching effect (actually, the white-appearing tissue is a minor tissue-burn and will require a day or two before it sloughs off and is replaced by new tissue), it is, as a matter-of-course, usually self-correcting. I apologize for such a lengthy response...but few individuals among the general population appear to possess an adequate knowledge of the properties/effects of H202especially at strengths beyond 3.5%. I hope these comments prove helpful. Sincerely, Brooks. Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:07:11 +0300 From: muk...@mail.bg To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora _ From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's something which could require further investigation. I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them obviously. Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a daily basis which probably helped in that decision. N. From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 _ Need a new model in your life? Sell your car fast. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT
Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I never thought of that Neville, but it's an interesting point. Maybe I will separate the use of those two by a couple of hours from now on, just to be safe. Thanks, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:39:02PM +1030, Neville Munn wrote: H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's something which could require further investigation. I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them obviously. Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a daily basis which probably helped in that decision. N. -- From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. Thora -- From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and dentures. How can I remove it myself ? Simeon - Powered by [1]Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 -- Sell your car fast. [2]Need a new model in your life? References Visible links 1. http://mail.bg/ 2. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383_t=758314219_r=carpoint_tagline_m=EXT -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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She is in for pure misery. And it doesn't guarantee that she'll save her teeth, or that she won't have to have it done again. My brother had that done -- he said that if he had to do it again, he'd shoot himself. Your sister could at least try using a water pik with CS, brushing and flossing followed by Hydrogen Peroxide mouthwash (miserable stuff, HP, but effective). She can always resort to that surgery later if the above doesn't work. MA From: Sam L. one...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:44:39 AM Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
RE: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
My cousin was facing the same possible surgery. She started using olive oil with oregano oil mixed in on a cotton ball at night and hers are getting better. I forget who posted this on line but it really does help. You have to be careful with the oregano because it is hot, some people have to mix it lighter. I personally mix about 2tbsp olive oil with 4 or 5 drops of oregano essential oil. Use part of a cotton ball soaked in the solution and put between gum and teeth and leave overnight. Dianne Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:44:02 -0700 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery To: silver-list@eskimo.com She is in for pure misery. And it doesn't guarantee that she'll save her teeth, or that she won't have to have it done again. My brother had that done -- he said that if he had to do it again, he'd shoot himself. Your sister could at least try using a water pik with CS, brushing and flossing followed by Hydrogen Peroxide mouthwash (miserable stuff, HP, but effective). She can always resort to that surgery later if the above doesn't work. MA From: Sam L. one...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:44:39 AM Subject: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
My husband had this done. When it flared up again after that he went to the Chinese doctor who cleared it up with a series of acupuncture treatments. On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I seem to have missed the point of this surgery---what is the problem it is being done to treat? thanks, sol On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
Hi Sol Her dentist did some x-rays and stated she was losing bone under the gum line or root line. She is really being pushed into this as if she doesnt have this done she will lose all her teeth, fear tatic. Sam L. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I seem to have missed the point of this surgery---what is the problem it is being done to treat? thanks, sol On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I'm sure she will not lose all her teeth, they tried the same dirty trick on me a few years ago. Tell her to eat lots of green, leafy veggies, use a waterpik (I hadn't even discovered CS yet and it did wonders for me), do *not* use alcohol-based mouthwashes or flouride toothpastes, and just be diligent about cleaning the teeth. A lot of the dental problems people have actually come from using flouride toothpaste and alcoholic mouthwashes. Tom's of Maine makes a witch hazel mouthwash which is really good stuff. Brushing with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda rather than a major brand toothpaste is also a good idea, and I'm sure that using CS also is a big help in dealing with the bacteria. Also, I found a non-flouride, remineralizing toothpaste called Oravive which seems to be very good stuff. They have it on Amazon. And alfalfa supplements are supposed to be quite good for helping the skeletal system to regenerate lost bone tissue. HTH, -- indi On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:53:55AM -0700, Sam L. wrote: Hi Sol Her dentist did some x-rays and stated she was losing bone under the gum line or root line. She is really being pushed into this as if she doesnt have this done she will lose all her teeth, fear tatic. Sam L. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, sol [1]sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I seem to have missed the point of this surgery---what is the problem it is being done to treat? thanks, sol On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [2]http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: [4]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour [5]mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. References Visible links 1. mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com 2. http://silverlist.org/ 3. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 4. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com 5. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- indi
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Hey Sam, I don't have a zapper so haven't done that, but swishing CS in my mouth for several minutes several times a day cured my periodontal disease, shrank the pockets, and kept me from having to have the surgery. That is all I did. The dentist doesn't understand how I went from one extreme to the other - and didn't really care to hear anything about CS! I don't do this nearly as often now, but if I remember to do this most days, I have very very little plaque build-up at my regular cleaning visits every six months - the hygenist is always amazed! Hope this helps! Ruth - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery My husband had this done. When it flared up again after that he went to the Chinese doctor who cleared it up with a series of acupuncture treatments. On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Oh, and I haven't lost any teeth at all since the periodontal disease diagnosis a few years ago. I was initially told the same thing as you just stated... - Original Message - From: Sam L. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: Re: CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery Hi Sol Her dentist did some x-rays and stated she was losing bone under the gum line or root line. She is really being pushed into this as if she doesnt have this done she will lose all her teeth, fear tatic. Sam L. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I seem to have missed the point of this surgery---what is the problem it is being done to treat? thanks, sol On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
CSGingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
