Re: CSHVAC silver

2001-05-15 Thread Chip Hoyle
Marshall,

I just re-read this e-mail and thought I'd pass along this link if you haven't
seen it.  I spoke with Bill Fernald for a few minutes over the phone about the
process that he uses and this picture is worth a thousand words.
http://utopiasilver.com/goldcloseup.jpg

Regards,

Chip Hoyle

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I have tried them for gold using the submerged non-arcing CS production
 method, and was unsuccessfully in doing anyting but boiling the water.

 Using two of them in parallel is what we use for making the Silver Lighning
 CS.  Works great.  With a flow through you can make about 2 gallons an hour
 for 5 ppm CS per transformer if you cool the entrance water to near
 freezing.

 Marshall

 Chip Hoyle wrote:

  Hi everybody,
 
  I just got my 15kv 60ma x-former for producing colloidal gold.  Has
  anyone on the list ever tried using an x-former of this voltage to do
  CS?  I'm looking forward to taking the leap into HVAC.  Would appreciate
  any feedback.  Thanks!
 
  Chip Hoyle
 
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Re: CSHVAC silver

2001-05-15 Thread Robert L. Berger
Chip;

I have spent about an hour with Bill about a month ago in regards to his 
process.
It is intended to make gold colloid.

I tried that setup for silver and it makes a very large particle size. When I
contaacted him again about the silver problems he
told me that it makes large particles. I have a gallon of CS with a bright red 
TE
which I never get with the arc CO2 process.

The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle 
size
of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to prove
it. It is available to anyone at no cost.

Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large.

Ole Bob



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Re: CSHVAC silver

2001-05-15 Thread Frank Key
Bob wrote:


 The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle 
 size
 of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to 
 prove
 it. It is available to anyone at no cost.
 
 Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large.

I challenge the validity of the claimed particle sizes above. Firstly, because 
a TEM cannot accurately determine the particle size in highly ionic solutions, 
and secondly, the Photon Correlation Spectrometer measured much larger 
particles in the sample provided by Bob for cs made by this process.

For more details on why a TEM is not usable for measuring particles in highly 
ionic solutions see:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#TEM


frank key


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CSHVAC silver

2001-05-07 Thread Chip Hoyle
Hi everybody,

I just got my 15kv 60ma x-former for producing colloidal gold.  Has
anyone on the list ever tried using an x-former of this voltage to do
CS?  I'm looking forward to taking the leap into HVAC.  Would appreciate
any feedback.  Thanks!

Chip Hoyle


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Re: CSHVAC silver

2001-05-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have tried them for gold using the submerged non-arcing CS production
method, and was unsuccessfully in doing anyting but boiling the water.

Using two of them in parallel is what we use for making the Silver Lighning
CS.  Works great.  With a flow through you can make about 2 gallons an hour
for 5 ppm CS per transformer if you cool the entrance water to near
freezing.

Marshall

Chip Hoyle wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 I just got my 15kv 60ma x-former for producing colloidal gold.  Has
 anyone on the list ever tried using an x-former of this voltage to do
 CS?  I'm looking forward to taking the leap into HVAC.  Would appreciate
 any feedback.  Thanks!

 Chip Hoyle

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Re: CSHVAC silver

2001-05-07 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Chip;

I have used 15 kv 60 ma to make CS using the ARC CO2 method. The wet
electrode can be anything from a #14 wire to a large plate. However the arc
electrode MUST be at leas a 0.40 x 1/2 sheet fastened on to a 1/4 bolt.
You MUST use a
thermoset plastic such as phenlic for the support of  the bolt as one whale
of a lot of heat is developed that will melt thermoplastic plastics.

When I tried a #14 top electrode at 60 ma it vaporized

Ole Bob




CSHVAC Silver

2000-07-02 Thread Daniel Holly

Is there a website that gives simple directions for making HVAC silver? How
long do you do it to say 16oz of distilled water? All you will find is a
clear color?

On the internet there are just people selling the stuff. I have an actown
12,000v  transformer from my enhancer setup (www.molecular-enhancer.com)
and know my way around electricity.

If anyone is eager to tell me over the phone, pleas e-mail your telephone
number privately.

Thanks
Dan


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