Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-19 Thread debbiegerard99
I don't know how my response ended up on this thread but we were chatteing 
about blood pressuredeb

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 MAY I ASK WHAT DID YOU GET DOWN BY 30 POINTS BY EATING GARLIC SUPP? 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Deborah Gerard 
  Linda ...garlic supplements got mine down by thirty points.debbie 
  
  Linda Ellis wrote: I'm trying to resolve a 
 conflict 
  in my mind, and it occurs to me that the excellent minds in this 
  group might have the answers 
  
  When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the 
 gunk 
  that is impacted 
  into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy on 
  late-night TV around 
  here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
  impacting the colon 
  looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds 
  of 
  gunk in his colon. 
  
  Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, 
 and 
  I was awake and 
  watching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom salt 
  thing the night 
  before to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my 
  colon. 
  
  Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in 
  my 
  intestinal system, 
  and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy? 
  
  I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I 
  take a 
  product called 
  OxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me 
  that 
  the bottom of my 
  colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me 
 take 
  the night before 
  the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the 
  same 
  stuff. 
  
  BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are 
 light 
  brown in color, 
  do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth. 
  
  The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds 
  of 
  extra weight and 
  get my blood pressure down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium 
  and 
  Calcium, but I 
  have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a 
  pro 
  
  Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move 
  to 
 OT 
  if this becomes a 
  big discussion. 
  
  Linda 
  
  
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Linda ...garlic supplements got mine down by thirty points.debbieLinda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that the excellent minds in thisgroup might have the answersWhen we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the gunk that is impactedinto the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy on late-night TV aroundhere selling "The Almighty Cleanse" who shows pictures of what this stuff impacting the colonlooks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds of gunk in his colon.Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, and I was awake andwatching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom
 salt thing the nightbefore to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my colon. Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in my intestinal system,and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I take a product calledOxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me that the bottom of mycolon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me take the night beforethe colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the same stuff.BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are light brown in color,do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent "girth." The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds of extra weight andget my blood pressure
 down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium and Calcium, but Ihave been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a proThanks for any input 

RE: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-19 Thread Dan Nave
 My impression is that, although some individuals, especially those who
tend to be constipated, may have problems with waste not moving through
the bowels, most people can pretty much completely evacuate with
laxatives like Epsom Salt. I also do not believe that most people have
mucoid plaque completely covering their intestines.  

On the other hand, I don't disbelieve the reports of these things coming
out during a process of bowel cleansing.  From my (slight experience
and) reading on Hygienic Fasting I have come to the conclusion that most
of this mucoid plaque is an exudate from the bowel as a result of the
cleansing process.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Linda Ellis [mailto:lellis4...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHealth-related, but not CS

I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that
the excellent minds in this group might have the answers

When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all
the gunk that is impacted into the colon, causing all kinds of health
problems.  There's even a guy on late-night TV around here selling The
Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff impacting the
colon looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had
40 pounds of gunk in his colon.

Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last
year, and I was awake and watching the monitor with the doctor.  I had,
of course, done the epsom salt thing the night before to clean things
out.  I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my colon.  

Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my
in my intestinal system, and that none of it is in the lower part that
can be viewed by colonoscopy?

I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I
take a product called OxyCleanse for a while.  I'm happy to do that.  It
just defies logic to me that the bottom of my colon can be cleaned out
so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me take the night before
the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the
same stuff.

BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day.  They
are light brown in color, do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem
to have decent girth.  

The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80
pounds of extra weight and get my blood pressure down with natural
means.  I've tried adding Magnesium and Calcium, but I have been
unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a pro

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to
move to OT if this becomes a big discussion.

Linda


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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS - 19 Sept -

2006-09-19 Thread Sandee George
You can make one for even less !
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS - 19 Sept

2006-09-19 Thread Sandee George
This is better than an enema however unless you are using the proper
colonic equipment which allows
water to enter and exit - by gravity feed - not pumps - you loose the
effect of massaging the walls of the
colon which releases the gunk - Regards Sandee
Ruth,
If you are serious about a full colon cleanse you can by a colonic board.
I would check the Internet for prices. It is not a complicated procedure
and can be done in the privacy of your own home, at your leisure and when
time permits. For example.

http://www.homecolonics.com/

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset

Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS - 19 Sept

2006-09-19 Thread ruth strackbein
Thanks, Sandee.  Am not sure yet how serious I am about a colon cleanse.  
Will continue to read messages, etc.  Thanks for your reply



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS - 19 Sept
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:02:50 -0700

This is better than an enema however unless you are using the proper
colonic equipment which allows
water to enter and exit - by gravity feed - not pumps - you loose the
effect of massaging the walls of the
colon which releases the gunk - Regards Sandee
Ruth,
If you are serious about a full colon cleanse you can by a colonic board.
I would check the Internet for prices. It is not a complicated procedure
and can be done in the privacy of your own home, at your leisure and when
time permits. For example.

http://www.homecolonics.com/

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset




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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-19 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler

Hi All!

Try out the Herbal_Remedies yahoo group.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Herbal_Remedies/ 


Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

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From: Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS



Morning Linda,

At 07:50 AM 9/18/2006, you wrote:

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to 
move to OT if this becomes a

big discussion.
Linda


  It covers the complete health care system.  It should become a big 
discussion, even enough for a complete list.


  I suggest that it move to the OT List.

  Wayne


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CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread Linda Ellis
I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that the 
excellent minds in this
group might have the answers

When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the gunk 
that is impacted
into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems.  There's even a guy on 
late-night TV around
here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
impacting the colon
looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds of 
gunk in his colon.

Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, and 
I was awake and
watching the monitor with the doctor.  I had, of course, done the epsom salt 
thing the night
before to clean things out.  I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my 
colon.  

Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in my 
intestinal system,
and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?

I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I take a 
product called
OxyCleanse for a while.  I'm happy to do that.  It just defies logic to me that 
the bottom of my
colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me take 
the night before
the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the same 
stuff.

BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day.  They are 
light brown in color,
do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth.  

The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds of 
extra weight and
get my blood pressure down with natural means.  I've tried adding Magnesium and 
Calcium, but I
have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a pro

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move to OT 
if this becomes a
big discussion.

Linda


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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning Linda,

At 07:50 AM 9/18/2006, you wrote:

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to 
move to OT if this becomes a

big discussion.
Linda


  It covers the complete health care system.  It should become a big 
discussion, even enough for a complete list.


  I suggest that it move to the OT List.

  Wayne


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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread Rowena
When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the 
gunk that is impacted
into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems.


If you want to talk to the specialists, there is a group called 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bowelcleanse/ who might have it all sussed 
out.
R 


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RE: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi Linda, I have the same questions you do about colonics.  My chiropractor 
is recommending a colon cleanse that involves a trip to a town some 40-50 
miles away. The people there would run water through my large and small 
intestines continuously for a certain amt. of time. The water could be mixed 
with a variety of medications.  This treatment costs from 2-3 hundred 
dollars a round.  Now  of course, at present, I suppose I may be carrying 
around quite a lot of gunk in  there, 78 years worth.  I have had 3 
colonoscopies in the last ten or so years and the doctor each time declared 
my lower colon whistle clean .  One of my sons and his wife visited me 
recently and said they were doing colon cleanses with some preparations they 
bought for $70 each.  And they told me that initially they did pass dark 
gunky stuff.  My wonderment is if the gunky stuff could have come from 
something in the medication.  I will wait for further notes as to their 
health after completing the treatment.  There are enough anatomical problems 
with my colon to make me wonder about the wisdom of pursuing either of the 
preceding courses of action.. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHealth-related, but not CS
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:50:41 -0700 (PDT)

I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that the 
excellent minds in this

group might have the answers

When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the 
gunk that is impacted
into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems.  There's even a guy 
on late-night TV around
here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
impacting the colon
looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds 
of gunk in his colon.


Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, 
and I was awake and
watching the monitor with the doctor.  I had, of course, done the epsom 
salt thing the night
before to clean things out.  I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of 
my colon.


Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in 
my intestinal system,

and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?

I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I 
take a product called
OxyCleanse for a while.  I'm happy to do that.  It just defies logic to me 
that the bottom of my
colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me 
take the night before
the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the 
same stuff.


BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day.  They are 
light brown in color,

do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth.

The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds 
of extra weight and
get my blood pressure down with natural means.  I've tried adding Magnesium 
and Calcium, but I
have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a 
pro


Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move 
to OT if this becomes a

big discussion.

Linda


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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread Deborah Gerard
Linda ...garlic supplements got mine down by thirty points.debbie

Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I'm trying to resolve a conflict 
in my mind, and it occurs to me that the excellent minds in this
group might have the answers

When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the gunk 
that is impacted
into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy on 
late-night TV around
here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
impacting the colon
looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds of 
gunk in his colon.

Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, and 
I was awake and
watching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom salt 
thing the night
before to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my 
colon. 

Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in my 
intestinal system,
and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?

I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I take a 
product called
OxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me that 
the bottom of my
colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me take 
the night before
the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the same 
stuff.

BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are light 
brown in color,
do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth. 

The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds of 
extra weight and
get my blood pressure down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium and 
Calcium, but I
have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a pro

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move to OT 
if this becomes a
big discussion.

Linda


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RE: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread Deborah Gerard
Ruth you can buy your own colonics board for less than three hundreddeb

ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com wrote:  Hi Linda, I have the same 
questions you do about colonics. My chiropractor 
is recommending a colon cleanse that involves a trip to a town some 40-50 
miles away. The people there would run water through my large and small 
intestines continuously for a certain amt. of time. The water could be mixed 
with a variety of medications. This treatment costs from 2-3 hundred 
dollars a round. Now of course, at present, I suppose I may be carrying 
around quite a lot of gunk in there, 78 years worth. I have had 3 
colonoscopies in the last ten or so years and the doctor each time declared 
my lower colon whistle clean . One of my sons and his wife visited me 
recently and said they were doing colon cleanses with some preparations they 
bought for $70 each. And they told me that initially they did pass dark 
gunky stuff. My wonderment is if the gunky stuff could have come from 
something in the medication. I will wait for further notes as to their 
health after completing the treatment. There are enough anatomical problems 
with my colon to make me wonder about the wisdom of pursuing either of the 
preceding courses of action.. Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: Linda Ellis 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHealth-related, but not CS
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:50:41 -0700 (PDT)

I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that the 
excellent minds in this
group might have the answers

When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the 
gunk that is impacted
into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy 
on late-night TV around
here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
impacting the colon
looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds 
of gunk in his colon.

Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, 
and I was awake and
watching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom 
salt thing the night
before to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of 
my colon.

Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in 
my intestinal system,
and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?

I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I 
take a product called
OxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me 
that the bottom of my
colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me 
take the night before
the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the 
same stuff.

BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are 
light brown in color,
do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth.

The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds 
of extra weight and
get my blood pressure down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium 
and Calcium, but I
have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a 
pro

Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move 
to OT if this becomes a
big discussion.

Linda


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Re: CSHealth-related, but not CS

2006-09-18 Thread mborgert
MAY I ASK WHAT DID YOU GET DOWN BY 30 POINTS BY EATING GARLIC SUPP?
 -- Original message --
From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 Linda ...garlic supplements got mine down by thirty points.debbie
 
 Linda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I'm trying to resolve a 
 conflict 
 in my mind, and it occurs to me that the excellent minds in this
 group might have the answers
 
 When we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the 
 gunk 
 that is impacted
 into the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy on 
 late-night TV around
 here selling The Almighty Cleanse who shows pictures of what this stuff 
 impacting the colon
 looks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds 
 of 
 gunk in his colon.
 
 Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, 
 and 
 I was awake and
 watching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom salt 
 thing the night
 before to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my 
 colon. 
 
 Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in my 
 intestinal system,
 and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?
 
 I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I take 
 a 
 product called
 OxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me that 
 the bottom of my
 colon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me 
 take 
 the night before
 the colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the same 
 stuff.
 
 BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are 
 light 
 brown in color,
 do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent girth. 
 
 The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds 
 of 
 extra weight and
 get my blood pressure down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium 
 and 
 Calcium, but I
 have been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a pro
 
 Thanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move to 
 OT 
 if this becomes a
 big discussion.
 
 Linda
 
 
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Linda ...garlic supplements got mine down by thirty points.debbieLinda Ellis lellis4...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I'm trying to resolve a conflict in my mind, and it occurs to me that the excellent minds in thisgroup might have the answersWhen we talk about colon cleanses, I keep hearing or reading about all the gunk that is impactedinto the colon, causing all kinds of health problems. There's even a guy on late-night TV aroundhere selling "The Almighty Cleanse" who shows pictures of what this stuff impacting the colonlooks like, and he claims that John Wayne's autopsy showed he had 40 pounds of gunk in his colon.Okay, the logic problem I have here is, I had a colonoscopy done last year, and I was awake andwatching the monitor with the doctor. I had, of course, done the epsom
 salt thing the nightbefore to clean things out. I didn't see any gunk stuck to the lining of my colon. Is it really possible that I have this rubber tire stuff further up my in my intestinal system,and that none of it is in the lower part that can be viewed by colonoscopy?I'm working with a Naturopath right now, and she has recommended that I take a product calledOxyCleanse for a while. I'm happy to do that. It just defies logic to me that the bottom of mycolon can be cleaned out so quickly with just that drink the doctor had me take the night beforethe colonoscopy, but the stuff further upstream hasn't been moved by the same stuff.BTW, I have pretty regular bowel movements, once or twice a day. They are light brown in color,do not float, are not hard to expel, and seem to have decent "girth." The reason I'm working with the Naturopath is to get rid of about 80 pounds of extra weight andget my blood pressure
 down with natural means. I've tried adding Magnesium and Calcium, but Ihave been unsuccessful on my own, so I thought I'd enlist the aid of a proThanks for any input anybody would care to shareand I'm happy to move to OT if this becomes abig discussion.Linda--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: