CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender
I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix blenders. Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal Vitamin C? In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves encapsulation? The last news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner achieves 70% encapsulation and a regular household blender achieves about 20% encapsulation. Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the standard ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix? Thanks! Jon
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C from the VitaMix blender
Jon, I use either my Vitamix or a stick blender to make my liposomal vit C. I can only say that it stays completely combined, and nothing drops out. And I can take higher doses with no stomach upset and no diarrhea, which I invariably got from low doses of plain vit C. I don't know if I get all the benefits of the Liposomal C made in an ultrasonic cleaner, but the benefits I do get are sufficient for my purposes. sol Jon wrote: I see from the list archives that a Lot of list members have VitaMix blenders. Is there any new info on the use of the VitaMix to make Liposomal Vitamin C? In particular, do we know what % of the mix achieves encapsulation? The last news I saw was that the ultrasonic cleaner achieves 70% encapsulation and a regular household blender achieves about 20% encapsulation. Also, do we know how the liposome particle size compares between the standard ultrasonic-cleaner method vs the VitaMix? Thanks! Jon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
Hi Nenah, I used the soy lecithin granules not sunflower lecithin, but found you had to leave even them some hours to dissolve completely in the DW. I used to shake them up at night and then leave them overnight in the fridge and then shake again in the morning. They would then be completely dissolved. dee On 8 Jun 2010, at 20:06, Nenah Sylver wrote: Well, folks, I took the plunge, bought a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (on sale now for $24.99), and made the stuff. Not wanting to use lecithin derived from soy, I used lecithin made from sunflowers. However, I didn’t use the granulated kind, and here’s where my question comes in. I bought the raw, cold-pressed, LIQUID sunflower lecithin from http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0products_id=1002747 I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
Well, folks, I took the plunge, bought a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (on sale now for $24.99), and made the stuff. Not wanting to use lecithin derived from soy, I used lecithin made from sunflowers. However, I didn't use the granulated kind, and here's where my question comes in. I bought the raw, cold-pressed, LIQUID sunflower lecithin from http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_info http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0pro ducts_id=1002747 cPath=0products_id=1002747 I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. Will this seriously impinge on the liposomal qualities of the Vitamin C? If so, I'll get sunflower lecithin granules next time. Or does ALL homemade Liposomal Vitamin C contain small bits of lecithin? Thanks for your help. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
Hello, I put my lecithin and water in a blender to make sure it was well blended before putting it in the ultrasonic cleaner. PT - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question Well, folks, I took the plunge, bought a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (on sale now for $24.99), and made the stuff. Not wanting to use lecithin derived from soy, I used lecithin made from sunflowers. However, I didn't use the granulated kind, and here's where my question comes in. I bought the raw, cold-pressed, LIQUID sunflower lecithin from http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0products_id=1002747 I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. Will this seriously impinge on the liposomal qualities of the Vitamin C? If so, I'll get sunflower lecithin granules next time. Or does ALL homemade Liposomal Vitamin C contain small bits of lecithin? Thanks for your help. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
Howdy, I blend mine also for a minute or two. R. David From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:16:21 -0400 Hello, I put my lecithin and water in a blender to make sure it was well blended before putting it in the ultrasonic cleaner. PT - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question Well, folks, I took the plunge, bought a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (on sale now for $24.99), and made the stuff. Not wanting to use lecithin derived from soy, I used lecithin made from sunflowers. However, I didn’t use the granulated kind, and here’s where my question comes in. I bought the raw, cold-pressed, LIQUID sunflower lecithin from http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0products_id=1002747 I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. Will this seriously impinge on the liposomal qualities of the Vitamin C? If so, I’ll get sunflower lecithin granules next time. Or does ALL homemade Liposomal Vitamin C contain small bits of lecithin? Thanks for your help. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
I think I recall Brooks Bradley not recommending liquid lecithin, but not sure why. I use the soy lecithin powder and have no problems with any undissolved material. I should think any form of lecithin would work however. I use a three stage process: (measure and preliminarily shake in a mason jar, (2) pulse in a vitamix, (3) 6 minutes of sonification in a cleaner. I get a beautiful suspension. doug - Original Message - I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. Will this seriously impinge on the liposomal qualities of the Vitamin C? If so, I'll get sunflower lecithin granules next time. Or does ALL homemade Liposomal Vitamin C contain small bits of lecithin? Thanks for your help.
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question
Hi Nenah, No the LET C made with Soy Lecithin granules does not contain any threads, strings, nor particles. I forget where I read it,but I came across it written somewhere (looks up) that liquid lecithin was undesirable for a few reasons, only one of which was its lesser emulsion attributes. There is also some difference in the way it is absorbed by the body. I used Soy Lecithin granules with homemade sodium ascorbate, and it was a perfectly homogenous liquid, every time. No meniscus either. I intend to try the Sunflower Lecithin Granules if I can locate them, because I don't like Soy either... Stay well, Linda :-) - --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C LECITHIN question To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:06 PM Well, folks, I took the plunge, bought a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner (on sale now for $24.99), and made the stuff. Not wanting to use lecithin derived from soy, I used lecithin made from sunflowers. However, I didn’t use the granulated kind, and here’s where my question comes in. I bought the raw, cold-pressed, LIQUID sunflower lecithin from http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0products_id=1002747 I found it very difficult to dissolve the liquid lecithin in the distilled water. There were still some small strings of undissolved lecithin remaining after shaking it in the jar. I ran the lecithin-water-Vitamin C mixture through about six 3-minute cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner, because I wanted to make sure it dissolved sufficiently. The final mixture did indeed acquire the desired milky appearance. However, there were still some small bits of lecithin floating around. Will this seriously impinge on the liposomal qualities of the Vitamin C? If so, I’ll get sunflower lecithin granules next time. Or does ALL homemade Liposomal Vitamin C contain small bits of lecithin? Thanks for your help. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
How much were you taking? Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
Incrementally I went from 1 packet a day to 2 and then to 3 (morning, noon and night). Each time I was able to do the 3 for a few days before I experienced the effects of too much. PT - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial How much were you taking? Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
Was it dosage dependent? Or just how many days in a row you took it? thanks, sol needling around wrote: Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
I think a combination of both. PT - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial Was it dosage dependent? Or just how many days in a row you took it? thanks, sol needling around wrote: Hi, I have read several times that the commercially prepared liposomal Vit C will not create bowel issues. I'm here to tell you that is not true. I have had this happen several times. Each time I backed off the Livon product and then reintroduced it again some days later... eventually it happened again. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
Thanks, I used two batches of my liposomal C with no problems, then took a long break, then started again. Haven't done more than 1500 mg, but did think a dose here and there were causing some GI adventuresnot consistently though. sol needling around wrote: I think a combination of both. PT - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Was it dosage dependent? Or just how many days in a row you took it? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial
Everybody has an upper limit...You have established yours...stay under it. My own limit using homemade Liposomal C is about 50 grams of encapsulated ascorbic acid... but thats just me . I don't do it daily, but I DO take at least 8 grams of C daily. Chuck Megahertz--when something is really painful. On 5/10/2010 11:25:39 AM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Incrementally I went from 1 packet a day to 2 and then to 3 (morning, noon and night). Each time I was able to do the 3 for a few days before I experienced the effects of too much. PT - Original Message - From: Del d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal vitamin c-commercial How much were you taking? Del - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellso -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Hi Steve, I should add that my Lypo-GSH encapsulation does not seem to be as efficient a process as with the Lypo-C. There is a small percentage (how much I am not certain) of whitish fallout which settles in the bottom of the jar. I am assuming that this would be the unencapsulated fraction. Peter - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Hi Steve, Yes it was. Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Peter, Was your GSH soluble in water? - Steve N Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Oops. Sent to wrong address. - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: 'pconve...@primus.ca' pconve...@primus.ca Sent: Fri Oct 02 13:24:31 2009 Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Hi Peter, The reason I asked about solubility is that when looking for sources of GSH one stated that it was insoluble in water while the others did not. I wonder why that one is not soluble in water. It is an unexpected difference between GSH sources. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca; Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Oct 02 08:40:57 2009 Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Hi Steve, I should add that my Lypo-GSH encapsulation does not seem to be as efficient a process as with the Lypo-C. There is a small percentage (how much I am not certain) of whitish fallout which settles in the bottom of the jar. I am assuming that this would be the unencapsulated fraction. Peter
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Del at Dri-Wash d...@driwash.us To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Ok, I have made two batches of liposomal absorbate using slight variation. I use the basic recipe below but add two oz. of DW in which I have dissolved the 3/4 tsp. of bob's baking soda. I then slowly pour the baking soda/DW solution SLOWLY into the Vitamin C / DW solution.There really isn't much bubbling. Then I combine with the dissolved lecithin solution in the blender and give about a 3 second blend before pouring into the ulta-sonic unit. My belief is it results in the baking soda being encapsulated as well so (in theory) it will join the Vitamin C in the blood stream. Would sure like Brooks or someone equally as adept to confirm this theory. The process does make a good blend and absolutely no separation. Del - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, I'd love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Hi Peter, Great information! Where did you buy your GSH? How long can you store your Lipo-C in the refrigerator? Thanks, Garnet Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Hi Garnet, I got my GSH from my local compounding pharmacy. I used the AOR brand which can be seen here: http://www.aor.ca/html/products.php?id=115 I wish I could tell you how long the Lypo-C can be stored but we have consumed it all in less than 3 days each time. My Lypo-GSH is about a week old now and seems perfectly fresh so far. Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Hi Peter, Great information! Where did you buy your GSH? How long can you store your Lipo-C in the refrigerator? Thanks, Garnet Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Thanks Peter, that is helpful. I am trying to decide whether to buy the large ultrasonic cleaner or the smaller one. Lipo-GSH sounds like a very good idea. I guess you can still make small batches in the large one? Garnet Peter Converse wrote: Hi Garnet, I got my GSH from my local compounding pharmacy. I used the AOR brand which can be seen here: http://www.aor.ca/html/products.php?id=115 I wish I could tell you how long the Lypo-C can be stored but we have consumed it all in less than 3 days each time. My Lypo-GSH is about a week old now and seems perfectly fresh so far. Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Hi Peter, Great information! Where did you buy your GSH? How long can you store your Lipo-C in the refrigerator? Thanks, Garnet Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Peter, Was your GSH soluble in water? - Steve N Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Hi Steve, Yes it was. Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Peter, Was your GSH soluble in water? - Steve N Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, I have made several batches of Lypo-C and have consumed various amounts ranging from two to fifteen 1.5 oz. doses in a day. I have learned that best effects may be achieved by first taking ascorbic acid or some other buffered form of vit.C to bowel tolerance before taking the Lypo-C to achieve best possible saturation. I purchased the 2.5 liter US cleaner, part # 95563 from Harbor Freight and find that using all ingredient volumes multiplied by 3 or 4 will produce equally good results. I opted for the larger cleaner to reduce the amount of work needed to keep my wife and I in a ready supply of product. So far, this seems perfectly adequate for our needs. I am also using the Now Foods non-GMO soy lecithin as some others are and L-ascorbic acid from my local compounding pharmacy, along with distilled water. I decant the finished product into mason jars when its ready. I have dissolved the lecithin on its own first by putting it into a mason jar with the room temperature water and shaking it vigorously. I have also tried using a blender to help speed up the process. This works very well but I have wondered if there might have ocurred some damage to the integrity of the liposomes. With the one batch I did make with the blender, I'm not sure if this was my imagination (which is entirely possible) but the effects on a virus I have been fighting seemed weaker to me. I have ended up with heating the water beforehand up to around body temperature before adding the lecithin. By doing this the emulsifying process is greatly sped up and much less shaking is needed. When I take my doses over a long period of time such as an hour and a half or more I find that my system handles it much better than if I try to take fewer and larger doses in less time. The faster I consume it, the more pronounced are the side effects of bloating and intestinal rumblings. When I've taken ten to fifteen doses within less than 30 minutes the effects are the most noticeable and annoying. I chose the former method in hopes of replicating, to some degree, what would be ocurring with an IV...a slow drip process that would introduce the vit.C in a slow, steady stream. I have made just one batch with baking soda using a 3:1 ratio of AA to baking soda (prior to encapsulation). I will not repeat this! The bloating and intestinal theatrics which occurred afterwards, including sound effects, was almost unbearable after taking a steady stream of 1.5 oz. doses. I felt like a one-man methane plant! I'll stick to just AA from now on or possibly calcium ascorbate! I have also tried making Lypo-GSH by dumping 45 500 mg. capsules into the water, in lieu of Vit. C, using a 3X multiplication of all originally given ingredients except for the vit.C. It seems to work as well as my Lypo-C...no miniscus or layering at allfully homogenized. Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C/Lethicin/cats
Is all lethicin from some type of grain? I got into making the Liposomal C primarly to help the cats and kitten in our shelter. The soy based lethicin causes gastric upsets, no matter how small the dose in these cats. They do ok with their regular 250mg doses of ascorbic acid, but not the Lip C as of yet. Are there other options that I could try to make a Liposomal C that will work with felines (and dogs)? I've been taking it without any problems and have done the testing with baking soda, so I'm confident in what I'm making. I just don't think anything soy based can be digested by cats. Any help will be appreciated. Lin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C/Lethicin/cats
http://www.austradeinc.com has non-soy lecithin. Garnet http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Lin Gregerson wrote: Is all lethicin from some type of grain? I got into making the Liposomal C primarly to help the cats and kitten in our shelter. The soy based lethicin causes gastric upsets, no matter how small the dose in these cats. They do ok with their regular 250mg doses of ascorbic acid, but not the Lip C as of yet. Are there other options that I could try to make a Liposomal C that will work with felines (and dogs)? I've been taking it without any problems and have done the testing with baking soda, so I'm confident in what I'm making. I just don't think anything soy based can be digested by cats. Any help will be appreciated. Lin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Doug... Thank you very much for putting this LET info in one place. Now we can easily send people to your site to get all the ins and outs of what they need to know to make LET vit. C. Greatly appreciated! Sandy --- On Tue, 9/29/09, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: From: polo dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 11:00 PM You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My pleasure! May I thank Brooks Bradley for his kindness in sharing his information, and I am only trying to distribute his information further. I hope I did him justice. doug - Original Message - From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Doug... Thank you very much for putting this LET info in one place. Now we can easily send people to your site to get all the ins and outs of what they need to know to make LET vit. C. Greatly appreciated! Sandy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, Id love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Polo, DaddyBob points out an important step if you want the best encapsulation success: ... blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Use of a blender or shaker dramatically improves the process. I would recommend it be added to your description. Regards, Steve N -Original Message- From: rans...@atmc.net [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, I'd love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Good idea, thanks d - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Polo, DaddyBob points out an important step if you want the best encapsulation success: ... blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Use of a blender or shaker dramatically improves the process. I would recommend it be added to your description. Regards, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
This is needed very much. If someone wants to put one together, I will be happy to post it to a website where anyone can easily access it. Marshall Garnet wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ok, I have made two batches of liposomal absorbate using slight variation.I use the basic recipe below but add two oz. of DW in which I have dissolved the 3/4 tsp. of bob's baking soda. I then slowly pour the baking soda/DW solution SLOWLY into the Vitamin C / DW solution.There really isn't much bubbling. Then I combine with the dissolved lecithin solution in the blender and give about a 3 second blend before pouring into the ulta-sonic unit. My belief is it results in the baking soda being encapsulated as well so (in theory) it will join the Vitamin C in the blood stream. Would sure like Brooks or someone equally as adept to confirm this theory. The process does make a good blend and absolutely no separation. Del - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, I'd love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Roger Barker wrote: Here's the one Daddybob sent me a few weeks ago - hope it helps. There has been some talk of adding the baking soda to the C before encapsulation. I have tried this once and will certainly be giving it another go shortly. Cheers, Roger B NZ From several people who posted their methods in various forums, and my own experience, here is my method: In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well (in a blender) until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until all is dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. How much time is a cycle? My ultrasonic cleaner lets you set the time, so I really have no idea how to convert cycles to the appropriate time. Also are there recommendations on which units work best. I recall that there was a discussion that some of them simply do not have the umph to be effective. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Here is the link to non soy powdered lecithin. http://www.austradeinc.com/non-soy-lecithin-powder.html Dave On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The automatic timer cycle is on the order or 2 to 3 minutes a cycle. I believe that most people are processing their mixture from 6 to 10 minutes. Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Roger Barker wrote: Here's the one Daddybob sent me a few weeks ago - hope it helps. There has been some talk of adding the baking soda to the C before encapsulation. I have tried this once and will certainly be giving it another go shortly. Cheers, Roger B NZ From several people who posted their methods in various forums, and my own experience, here is my method: In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well (in a blender) until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until all is dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. How much time is a cycle? My ultrasonic cleaner lets you set the time, so I really have no idea how to convert cycles to the appropriate time. Also are there recommendations on which units work best. I recall that there was a discussion that some of them simply do not have the umph to be effective. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Excellent page Doug, thank you! And thank you for forwarding DB's info Roger! Garnet polo wrote: You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver Siilver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Doug, A little while back I asked you about making tinctures with DMSO (using the email address provided at your web site). If I remember right you recommended a 50% DMSO solution. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you use a preservative in your DMSO tinctures? I am considering a DMSO/vodka tincture and wondered if you have tried something similar. If you do, would you need to combine the herb and DMSO and let it set first before adding the vodka, to maximize bonding between DMSO and herb components rather than DMSO bonding with alcohol? I also have a question regarding the tincturing of polkweed. The toxic components of pokeweed are water soluble. Should one dry and powder the pokeweed and then go through several soaking in water. Throwing away the water after each soaking before tincturing to eliminate the toxic substances? Or would you recommend an extraction using a non polar solvent to remove only the non water soluble components of the pokeweed? Thanks, Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ransey/Daddybob i think has one. Melly --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote: From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C To: silver Siilver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 9:21 PM Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Here's the one Daddybob sent me a few weeks ago - hope it helps. There has been some talk of adding the baking soda to the C before encapsulation. I have tried this once and will certainly be giving it another go shortly. Cheers, Roger B NZ From several people who posted their methods in various forums, and my own experience, here is my method: In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well (in a blender) until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until all is dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. DaddyBob __ From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C To: silver Siilver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 9:21 PM Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet a
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver Siilver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
