RE: CSMany questions from a new member!
*See comments in text. -Original Message- From: Misc. IP Group [mailto:m...@ipgroupltd.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMany questions from a new member! Hi I'm new to the list and was very pleased to find this list and sad to see that the archives are down at present, so apologies if I'm asking questions which have been answered thousands of times before in the archives. I have a number of questions already so here goes: 1) What is the difference between colloidal silver and silver in the form of silver gluconate? *Colloidal silver is a catch-all term. What we advocate is sometimes called EIS (Electrically Isolated Silver) which is made with distilled water only with no additives or stabilizers. (Some people add a small amount of Hydrogen Peroxide some time after the EIS is made.) The silver gluconate has an additive and is a silver compound. It may also have many times the silver concentration, but may not be more active than the lower concentration EIS. 2) I'm looking at making a colloidal silver generator as I enjoy making things and I'm in Greece and wher I am colloidal silver etc is unheard of. I was looking at going constant current at 0.5mA. Any comments on this current level? I prefer to wait longer and get better quality if necessary. Also is it better to use bigger pieces of pure silver to have a greater surface area? I also read that by switching the poles at intervals, the probes become self cleaning. What kind of interval should one use? Every 5 minutes? *Some people, notably Mike Monett (and Steve Young?), have advocated using very low current systems. These take much longer to make the product, but they claim that the particles are smaller and there is no necessity for stirring at these currents, and also, they could result in a higher ppm EIS. General consensus is that limiting current to less than 1 or 1.5 ma per square inch of electrode (anode, the + electrode) surface area will give a good product. With the proper type of stirring setup, the currents can be much higher per square inch of surface area while producing a good product. The larger the pieces of silver used for electrodes, the more current you can use, the lower the starting resistance will be so the currents will reach the controlled saturation level quicker and the process will therefore complete quicker. If you are using very low current level, these things are less of an issue since you will quickly reach the set current level. Electrode polarity switching has been recommended at about 1 or 1.5 minutes as far as I know. Don't switch too fast (like 50 Hz) or you won't produce any product. If you use polarity switching, you will have to use fine silver for both electrodes. I feel that .999 fine silver is adequate. 3) I know this is a CS list but do people know and/or discuss other colloids eg Gold, Copper and Zinc as there appears to be a lot less information on these. (If so what doses to people recommend of these and can I make my own generator to create these as well and if so what changes are needed?) *You cannot make CGold with low voltage. Colloidal (ionic) Copper apparently can be made above 40VDC, I believe. I wouldn't recommend ingesting it, it could be bad for you, but external use should be OK. For Colloidal Gold you could go to CGExchange on Yahoo groups. 4) Anybody had experience of giving CS to horses. Have a horse with sweet itch (an affliction which is not really understood but is considered to be due to an allergic reaction or over reaction to Midge bites) and I was considering if CS would be good (or Gold, Zinc, or Copper If I knew more about them). *Try using a cloth saturated with CS/EIS externally. If you can get DMSO at your feed supply store, add 10 or 20% of that to the CS when applying. It will make it absorb into the skin. Others on the list have experience with horses. Many thanks Peter *Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMany questions from a new member!
Hi I'm new to the list and was very pleased to find this list and sad to see that the archives are down at present, so apologies if I'm asking questions which have been answered thousands of times before in the archives. I have a number of questions already so here goes: 1) What is the difference between colloidal silver and silver in the form of silver gluconate? 2) I'm looking at making a colloidal silver generator as I enjoy making things and I'm in Greece and wher I am colloidal silver etc is unheard of. I was looking at going constant current at 0.5mA. Any comments on this current level? I prefer to wait longer and get better quality if necessary. Also is it better to use bigger pieces of pure silver to have a greater surface area? I also read that by switching the poles at intervals, the probes become self cleaning. What kind of interval should one use? Every 5 minutes? 3) I know this is a CS list but do people know and/or discuss other colloids eg Gold, Copper and Zinc as there appears to be a lot less information on these. (If so what doses to people recommend of these and can I make my own generator to create these as well and if so what changes are needed?) 4) Anybody had experience of giving CS to horses. Have a horse with sweet itch (an affliction which is not really understood but is considered to be due to an allergic reaction or over reaction to Midge bites) and I was considering if CS would be good (or Gold, Zinc, or Copper If I knew more about them). Many thanks Peter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 11/12/2006 16:32 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMany questions from a new member!
Peter, I am also named Peter and I am originally from Athens, Greece. I visit there every September/October and have recently become involved with the CS group and had the same question as far as producing CS in Greece. My current plan is to build two generators. One will be a 2 gal capacity for use here in the U.S. and the other one will be powered by 4 nine volt batteries, with a 20K resistor or current limiting diode that will be used when I am in Greece. If you are anywhere close to Athens contact my privately and I will look you up when I get there in September. Peter -Original Message- From: Misc. IP Group [mailto:m...@ipgroupltd.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMany questions from a new member! Hi I'm new to the list and was very pleased to find this list and sad to see that the archives are down at present, so apologies if I'm asking questions which have been answered thousands of times before in the archives. I have a number of questions already so here goes: 1) What is the difference between colloidal silver and silver in the form of silver gluconate? 2) I'm looking at making a colloidal silver generator as I enjoy making things and I'm in Greece and wher I am colloidal silver etc is unheard of. I was looking at going constant current at 0.5mA. Any comments on this current level? I prefer to wait longer and get better quality if necessary. Also is it better to use bigger pieces of pure silver to have a greater surface area? I also read that by switching the poles at intervals, the probes become self cleaning. What kind of interval should one use? Every 5 minutes? 3) I know this is a CS list but do people know and/or discuss other colloids eg Gold, Copper and Zinc as there appears to be a lot less information on these. (If so what doses to people recommend of these and can I make my own generator to create these as well and if so what changes are needed?) 4) Anybody had experience of giving CS to horses. Have a horse with sweet itch (an affliction which is not really understood but is considered to be due to an allergic reaction or over reaction to Midge bites) and I was considering if CS would be good (or Gold, Zinc, or Copper If I knew more about them). Many thanks Peter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 11/12/2006 16:32 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMany questions from a new member!
Go Greeks! Relatives in Greece think consuming silver is insane. Do you know anything about George Vithoukas who is the guru of homeopathy? In Athens any contact numers to his clinics? I'd like to give the referral to relatives there.
Re: CSMany questions from a new member!
In europe they consume gold. there are cakes they make tha are covered with gold leaf and people eat it. Take care, V Go Greeks! Relatives in Greece think consuming silver is insane. Do you know anything about George Vithoukas who is the guru of homeopathy? In Athens any contact numers to his clinics? I'd like to give the referral to relatives there. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMany questions from a new member!
Never heard of him, nor am I surprised about the views of Greeks on CS and many other topics as well. Perhaps guru Vithoukas needs to be educated in CS first. Peter -Original Message- From: gmetrop...@aol.com [mailto:gmetrop...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMany questions from a new member! Go Greeks! Relatives in Greece think consuming silver is insane. Do you know anything about George Vithoukas who is the guru of homeopathy? In Athens any contact numers to his clinics? I'd like to give the referral to relatives there.