CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years. I wear a splint at night which typically helps. I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left. I always have some level of pain on the left. My left tonsil is always slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear chin. My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining. I get all migraines in the left side. I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with jaw pain/migraine activity. I almost always feel like I have a mild ear infection on the left. It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to us discovering the congential fusion. Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoon fillings replaced. Starting about Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin. I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting an infection. I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated. Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting. So now all those glands on the left are both swollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well. I am also tired and a bit lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would expect that regardless. Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the heat, humidity and the fact that I ate something I really shouldn't have - it may or may not be related. I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet. Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an indication of a fungal infection?? In my jaw/teeth? I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it. I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, or anything else added to it) - silverpuppy homemade. 1 ounce in the morning when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative colitis and pain with the LDN). I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few others at are escaping my brain right now). I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, but not since Sat morning. It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after beverage that messes me up. Should I up EIS intake? Oils of ... ??? oregano and cinnamin have both been mentioned in the past related to dental/mouth stuff I think ... Oils ingested, applied to inside of mouth? Just suck it up and get antibiotics? Ideas? Sorry for the long email. I do appreciate ideas. I've been internet searching but it makes my head hurt because there is often so much conflicting info out there. Jaxi
Fw: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
Jaxi, my first reaction is to have the dentist check the height of the fillings as the could be part of the problem. If either is too high when you chew on that side it will cause micro-trauma. If it were me, I would continue with the oil pulling even twice a day. You might want to research the herb Wild Indigo as it is specific for dental issues. You might also want to consider increasing the amount of the CS short term until you get past this. You might also want to research inclined bed therapy. It has helped my dental/neck/gland issues tremendously. Good place to start is www.heal-me.com.au Good luck. PT - Original Message - From: jaxi To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; LDN LowDoseNaltrexone ; ldnand...@yahoogroups.com ; dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas? Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years. I wear a splint at night which typically helps. I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left. I always have some level of pain on the left. My left tonsil is always slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear chin. My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining. I get all migraines in the left side. I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with jaw pain/migraine activity. I almost always feel like I have a mild ear infection on the left. It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to us discovering the congential fusion. Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoon fillings replaced. Starting about Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin. I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting an infection. I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated. Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting. So now all those glands on the left are both swollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well. I am also tired and a bit lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would expect that regardless. Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the heat, humidity and the fact that I ate something I really shouldn't have - it may or may not be related. I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet. Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an indication of a fungal infection?? In my jaw/teeth? I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it. I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, or anything else added to it) - silverpuppy homemade. 1 ounce in the morning when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative colitis and pain with the LDN). I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few others at are escaping my brain right now). I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, but not since Sat morning. It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after beverage that messes me up. Should I up EIS intake? Oils of ... ??? oregano and cinnamin have both been mentioned in the past related to dental/mouth stuff I think ... Oils ingested, applied to inside of mouth? Just suck it up and get antibiotics? Ideas? Sorry for the long email. I do appreciate ideas. I've been internet searching but it makes my head hurt because there is often so much conflicting info out there. Jaxi
Re: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
Dear Jaxi, One thing I learned from my dental revision, Jaxi, is that once the last filling comes out of your mouth the absolute HIGHEST priority becomes mercury detox. I mean it is URGENT! Your body has been in full defensive mode ever since the first filling went in however many years ago. Given the lack of effective pathways for its elimination, all sorts of processes were activated to capture and sequester that daily dose of mercury so it would do as little harm as possible. Now that you've removed the daily assault of *new* mercury, your body will de-compensate and start trying to unload that entire burden of stored mercury as quickly as it can. Unfortunately for you, it STILL has no good way to get rid of the mercury! So the stuff will start circulating and causing toxic damage everywhere, worse than you would have had if you'd left your last filling in. So now you need to start helping it, PRONTO, to get rid of the mercury that is coming back into circulation. Best and easiest would be a good sweat in a far infrared sauna, daily, or as often as you can tolerate. Believe me, it will be worth it to buy one of these! I'd have spared myself several years of torture if I had bit the bullet and splurged on this so-called luxury item right away. If that's not possible, then get yourself some epsom salts, fill the bath tub with water at 104 degrees Farenheit, or warmer if you can handle it, dump in a few scoops of the salts, then soak in it for 20 minutes, working up a good sweat. Then drain and shower off. Do this RELIGIOUSLY every 3 days and you should be able to stay ahead of the detox and start to feel better. Slack off and you'll start to re- toxify. Get yourself a good electrolyte replacement beverage and you should be able to do either of these more often and with greater comfort. The common thread in these methods is sweating, of course. Sweating is an effective pathway for mercury removal and will not only move more mercury out faster but will take a load off your liver and kidneys, too. There are also other means to detox mercury... and if you're already on top of this aspect of your recovery, then you'll want to pursue the other suggestions that you're getting. If not, however, then this will get you started, and we can explore other ways to deal with the cursed stuff. Please let us know what you need. Peace, Mike D. Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Fw: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
hoping list is back up and this goes through On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks PT - dentist is getting me in at 2 this afternoon - wants to check the tooth height issue and to make sure there is no abcess going on either. I will likely leave with an antibiotic script - to do or not to do ... I'll get on top of the oil pulling again. I forgot this morning. When I do it, I try to get my mouthful of oil on the way to my shower so I can pull all through my shower. It usually ensures I pull long enough and have the whole empty stomach thing. Also after I pull and rinse and brush out my mouth, I then do my CS - which I can do while dressing or even while driving to work ... lol. But I figure the pulling and rinsing help prep the mouth for the CS since I thought I read somewhere that CS is more effective if you cleanse the mouth prior to use. I'll check out the inclined bed stuff tonight from home. I try not to travel to too many interesting web sites when at work. Big brother is watching. Our bed would be fairly easy to incline I think. I have some CS with me at work. So I just did another mouthful. Peace, Jaxi On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jaxi, my first reaction is to have the dentist check the height of the fillings as the could be part of the problem. If either is too high when you chew on that side it will cause micro-trauma. If it were me, I would continue with the oil pulling even twice a day. You might want to research the herb Wild Indigo as it is specific for dental issues. You might also want to consider increasing the amount of the CS short term until you get past this. You might also want to research inclined bed therapy. It has helped my dental/neck/gland issues tremendously. Good place to start is www.heal-me.com.au Good luck. PT - Original Message - *From:* jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com ; LDN LowDoseNaltrexonelowdosenaltrex...@yahoogroups.com; ldnand...@yahoogroups.com ; dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 23, 2010 12:22 PM *Subject:* CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas? Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years. I wear a splint at night which typically helps. I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left. I always have some level of pain on the left. My left tonsil is always slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear chin. My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining. I get all migraines in the left side. I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with jaw pain/migraine activity. I almost always feel like I have a mild ear infection on the left. It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to us discovering the congential fusion. Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoon fillings replaced. Starting about Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin. I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting an infection. I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated. Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting. So now all those glands on the left are both swollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well. I am also tired and a bit lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would expect that regardless. Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the heat, humidity and the fact that I ate something I really shouldn't have - it may or may not be related. I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet. Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an indication of a fungal infection?? In my jaw/teeth? I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it. I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, or anything else added to it) - silverpuppy homemade. 1 ounce in the morning when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative colitis and pain with the LDN). I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few others at are escaping my brain right now). I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, but not since Sat morning. It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after beverage
Re: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
On 23 Aug 2010 at 11:22, jaxi wrote about : Subject : CSOT - Dental work - infection? - Last Monday I had my last2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years. I wear a splint at night which typically helps. I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left. I always have some level of pain on the left. My left tonsil is always slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear chin. My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining. I get all migraines in the left side. I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with jaw pain/migraine activity. I almost always feel like I have a mild ear infection on the left. It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to us discovering the congential fusion. Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoonfillings replaced. Starting about Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin. I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting an infection. I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated. Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting.So now all those glands on the left are bothswollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well. I am also tired and a bit lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would expect that regardless. Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the heat, humidity and the fact thatI ate something I really shouldn't have -it may or may not be related. I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet. Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an indication of a fungal infection?? In my jaw/teeth? I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it. I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, or anything else added to it)- silverpuppy homemade. 1 ounce in the morning when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative colitis and pain with the LDN). I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few others at are escaping my brain right now). I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, but not since Sat morning. It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after beverage that messes me up. Should I up EIS intake? Oils of ... ??? oregano and cinnamin have both been mentioned in the past related to dental/mouth stuff I think ... Oils ingested, applied to inside of mouth? Just suck it up and get antibiotics? Ideas? Sorry for the long email. I do appreciate ideas. I've been internet searching but it makes my head hurt because there is often so much conflicting info out there. Jaxi Hi Jaxi, Please take this with caution. I'm an mr fixit engineer not a Dr. Yes you could increase the amount of CS. I might do a cup or two a day as a heavy dose ( up to 8 oz say) and back off to 1/2 oz for the maintenance. For teeth I have had very good results from using a drop of clove oil which burns but dulls the pain and is very good at anti infection. don't know the others. I used to dip a toothpick in the oil and apply it to the offending tooth. A more benign way is to place a whole clove 'claw' between tooth and gum and just leave that there day and night. Replace as necessary. My guess is that you could do with some lymph drainage on neck ( please do both sides for the balance but concentrate on the affected side ) Simplest is self drainage. Use the karate chop edge of your L hand to scoop down L side of your neck, from edge of head bone, occiput, right down onto your shoulder/chest. Work the whole of the neck both back and front. . In particular work down from your ear onto your collarbone area. Be gentle but persistent on places which hurt; which may indicate places of blockage. If you could find someone to do cranio sacral work . that may be able to correct all that you have been talking of. I can't comment on your supplements. I think oil pulling takes a while to kick in properly. One or two sessions will probably not do much; but am happy to be wrong. OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives:
Re: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas?
My wife started having bleeding from the gums during her daily brushing regimen. Much simpler than your situation, but rather than using EIS (which she hates) i suggested she try our godzilla zapper (instructions on the micro-electricity yahoo group). Basically, she spent 15 minutes sending 6V of current through her jaws. We think this has ended the beginnings of gum disease. In the past she suffered terrible problems due to TMD (Temporo Mandibular Dysfunction) which is pretty much TMJ on steroids. She ended up having a couple jaw surgeries to address congenital malformed bite issues. but had to prep for a year with a special splint that had to be adjusted frequently as her jaw joints healed and swelling was eliminated. The dentist was a specialist in a fairly new dental approach called bioesthetics. Worth checking into. Changed my wife's life. --- On Mon, 8/23/10, jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote: From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com Subject: CSOT - Dental work - infection? - tx ideas? To: silver-list@eskimo.com, LDN LowDoseNaltrexone lowdosenaltrex...@yahoogroups.com, ldnand...@yahoogroups.com, dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 12:22 PM Last Monday I had my last 2 old fillings replaced. Top left side of the mouth. First molar and last molar. I have had TMJ issues for over 20 years. I wear a splint at night which typically helps. I have a congenital fusion of C2/C3 which appears to refer left. I always have some level of pain on the left. My left tonsil is always slightly swollen, as are the glands/nodes under the ear and under the rear chin. My left sinuses are always slightly congested/draining. I get all migraines in the left side. I have trigeminal nerve inolvment on the left with jaw pain/migraine activity. I almost always feel like I have a mild ear infection on the left. It was this cluster of symptoms that eventually lead to us discovering the congential fusion. Okay, back to dental work - Monday afternoon fillings replaced. Starting about Wednesday I noticed an increase in pain in left tonsil and the glands below the ear (sort of in front of the eustacian tube) and under the rear chin. I thought, okay my body is a wee bit cranky about the dental work and fighting an infection. I top first molar was also a bit sore and did not like it when I bit down on it - that pain has since mostly abated. Late Wed the occipital node on the left also started hurting. So now all those glands on the left are both swollen and painful, as is the left tonsil area and left ear area, the throat is a bit sore as well. I am also tired and a bit lethargic - but we have a lot of heat and humidity here right now so I would expect that regardless. Saturday I had a bought of diarrhea - but with the heat, humidity and the fact that I ate something I really shouldn't have - it may or may not be related. I am not running a fever but am wondering if the LDN and EIS are keeping the infection in check just enough that I haven't gotten that bad yet. Some things I've read online suggest occipital gland inflamtion is an indication of a fungal infection?? In my jaw/teeth? I don't really want to do a round of antibiotics if I can avoid it. I currently consume about 2 ounces of EIS a day - straight EIS (no salt, H2O2, or anything else added to it) - silverpuppy homemade. 1 ounce in the morning when I get up and another ounce at night before bed, I hold it in my mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I take 4.5 mg LDN at night (tx ulcerative colitis and pain with the LDN). I take an assortment of other supplements (D3, tumeric, fish oil, DLPA, ALA, B complex, grapefruit seed extract and a few others at are escaping my brain right now). I did try a couple rounds of oil pulling Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, but not since Sat morning. It's the 4 hrs after food and at least 1 hr after beverage that messes me up. Should I up EIS intake? Oils of ... ??? oregano and cinnamin have both been mentioned in the past related to dental/mouth stuff I think ... Oils ingested, applied to inside of mouth? Just suck it up and get antibiotics? Ideas? Sorry for the long email. I do appreciate ideas. I've been internet searching but it makes my head hurt because there is often so much conflicting info out there. Jaxi
