Re: CSFw: CSQuestion: too much cs
of the mucous membranes,or in flour?1ike scaling of the skin. When the epidermal cells are irritated, molecules of Kali mur are lost and fibrin in the form of a white or greyish exudation, is thrown off. This,in drying,becomes a mealy eruption. If the irritation extends to the tissues beneath the epidermis,both fibrin and serum will exude,and the involved part of the skin will be pushed up in the form of blisters. This is exactly what takes place in small?pox,cow?pox and vaccine disease. Similar processes can take place within and among epithelial cells in mucosal lining. When the integrity ofthe affected cells are restored by administration of Kali muriaticum molecules, a reabsorption or throwing off of the exudation [mucusl occurs. This is attained by the production of hydrochloric acid formed by one part of chlorine from KCl with hydrogen. The hydrochloric acid formed dissolves the fibrin in its incipient stage offormation. This patho-physiological phenomenon corresponds to the second stage of inflammation of serous membranes The gastric juice in man is a strong acid with a pH [hydrogen ion concentration] of 1. 6 2.0. The gastric walls are postulated to be covered and protected by the gastric mucosa which is derived from protein. Normally, proteins are dissolved in such strong acid. The moot point is: Why the gastric wall is not corroded? It is generally accepted that where microbes thrive and breed, decay sets in. This is not totally correct. The microbes have been found to reside only in the body system but not breed when the immune system of the body is intact The protective mechanism of the living body particularly for its protein component is the maintenance of the stereo orientation of the tissue, its 3 dimensional structure.When this 3 dimensional property is sustained in the tissue structure, the microbes will not attack and the gastric secretion [ HCL I will not corrode. But, the moment, the tissue dies, that is when it loses its bioenergy , its 3 dimensional structure coliapses. As a result, the microbes [ Helicobacter pylori ] will invade,causing putrefaction and the the hydrochloric acid in the gastric juice will corrode, giving rise to ulceration and ultimately perforation. In passing, it is worthwhile to remember that the nerve ,Pneumo-Gastric, supplies both the Lungs and the Stomach. Hence, a cough may originate from the stomach due to food allergies or mechanical /chemical irritation. Or it may be a reflex cough due to irritation from the ears. Will the secreted mucus be a barrier to broad-spectrum uses of Collodal Silver ? With regards Lew - Original Message - From: FHLew To: klini...@tm.net.my Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:54 AM Subject: Fw: CSFw: CSQuestion: too much cs - Original Message - From: nan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: CSFw: CSQuestion: too much cs Hi, Can anyone comment on these two situations? Thank you, nan - Original Message - From: nan To: csh...@farmerstel.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion: too much cs i can relate to that. i've had a little tightness in my chest. But i have energy, don;t feel sick. i can cough up something, only if i try. i am still blowing some but not a lot. it is still mostly clear. i do have drainage but no sore throat. My ears are itchy and very dry. Feel like they may be trying to open up or heal. But they are not stopped up. i have had a shooting pain in one or the other of them a few times. i have a feeling deep in my ear, sometimes when i swallow also. - Original Message - From: Connie To: nan Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: RE: CSQuestion: too much cs since last tuesday i have had a tighness in my chest. very unconfortable at times. was being to think it was pnemonia. this am I started coughing some phlegm up and nose was really full when i firt got up. chest has not hurt today but do have drainage running down back of throat, also have a slight sore throat and maybe a stopped up ear, you know like it feels like something is in my ear when i swallow -Original Message- From: nan [mailto:n...@wingnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:25 AM To: Connie Subject: Fw: CSQuestion: too much cs - Original Message - From: ol...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion: too much cs Judy: I don't think you are taking too much, but I'm not the expert here. I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I consumed more than you at first. I think around 2 or 3 ounces 3 times a day increasing a little each day but not more than 5 to 6 ounces. I felt like I was getting the flu
Re: CSQuestion: too much cs
Judy: How much CS did you or are taking? Thom In a message dated 12/22/2001 11:11:27 AM Central Standard Time, jdufres...@stny.rr.com writes: I am getting a cold and sore throat and wonder if I have over done the cs as I have just started taking it. I recently read about an effect that causes flu like symptoms when someone uses too much cs at first. Could someone refresh my memory and if this is what I am feeling, what should I do? Judy
CSQuestion: too much cs
I am getting a cold and sore throat and wonder if I have over done the cs as I have just started taking it. I recently read about an effect that causes flu like symptoms when someone uses too much cs at first. Could someone refresh my memory and if this is what I am feeling, what should I do? Judy
Re: CSQuestion: too much cs
Judy: I don't think you are taking too much, but I'm not the expert here. I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I consumed more than you at first. I think around 2 or 3 ounces 3 times a day increasing a little each day but not more than 5 to 6 ounces. I felt like I was getting the flu or a heavy cold. I had heavy sinus 'junk' I coughed up a little phlegm but not much. My chest felt heavy for a spell but all is OK now. I didn't really get down as I worked every day with sufficient energy. My guess is that I had the HERX reaction. But again, I'm not the expert. My wife started taking a couple of teaspoons late yesterday and said she had to keep 'clearing' her throat. I had that two, but not now. Keep in touch, maybe others will contribute similar experiences. I posted my questions about this reaction on the list but received NO replies. Thom
Re: CSQuestion: too much cs
I am getting a cold and sore throat and wonder if I have over done the cs as I have just started taking it. I recently read about an effect that causes flu like symptoms when someone uses too much cs at first. Could someone refresh my memory and if this is what I am feeling, what should I do? Judy Dear Judy, You have a cold. You aren`t geting enough CS! Take 3 big swallows, at least a cupful total a day, see if that`ll help. You need to saturate the tissues with CS at first to nail all the nasties lurking all over... Good luck! Marshalee
CSQuestion: too much cs - Herxheimer revisited
Greetings, All! The herxheimer reaction, or the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction, was first medically recognized in the treatment of Syphilis, and later recognized in the treatment of lyme disease. It is generally thought that the herx reaction occurs due to the release of endo-toxics as the result of antibiotics killing off certain types of bacteria. As medically documented in some cases of Syphilis, symptoms last for 24 hours. Other cases show that the herxheimer reaction can last through the entire treatment. The herx reaction occurs anywhere from 2-6 hours to 24 hours from the start of treatment. A review of the medical information clearly reveals that the medical profession doesn't really know what it is talking about. However, through observations on the treatment of Arthritis ( center for arthritis in Riverside ), a true idea of what the herx reaction is starts to crystallize: We have noticed that initially patients may worsen. This is caused by a Herxheimer reaction. This is due to an increase in circulating bacterial particles and toxins, which promote an antigenic reaction that produces an intense inflammatory response. This provokes increased arthralgias, myalgias, depression, fatigue, and poor memory. To truly understand the Herx reaction, one must realize that when any die off occurs in the body in great numbers, the conditions of the body are changed. In some cases, certain forms of bacteria are going to temporarily thrive. The toxins released are going to have an impact on the immune system. All in all, the body is temporarily thrown out of balance, and needs to go through a period of adjustment. If one formally defines a herx reaction as endo-toxin release as the result of bacterial die off, then it is useful to coin another phrase: The exteriorization of an illness. In other words, a sore throat as the RESULT of a herx reaction is not the herx reaction per se... Rather, it is an exteriorization of an existing condition that becomes noticeable due to changes in the conditions of the body. This can happen for several reasons: 1) The immune system is taxed through the elimination of the toxins, which temporarily allows other pre-existing conditions to thrive. 2) The change in the conditions of the body create conditions that allow other infections to thrive, and the immune system needs time to respond. 3) Any toxic reaction in the body stimulates the body's elimination system; the body begins to flush itself out, which can result in the bacterial particles being released in the body. In cases where the body is in worse shape than the owner really realized, the herx reaction can fully manifest colds and other illness. The solution is to continue colloidal silver in smaller doses, and endure the cold. As one begins to feel better, it is wise to continue CS use in slightly larger doses for a period. If the reaction is extreme, then one may need to cease using the colloidal silver until conditions improve. Normal herx reactions, in my experience, can be all but eliminated through the use of bentonite internally. However, one must have already been acclimated to the use of bentonite! Conditions can be improved if one drinks plenty of water as well. From: David Judy Dufresne jdufres...@stny.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSQuestion: too much cs Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:28:32 -0500 I am getting a cold and sore throat and wonder if I have over done the cs as I have just started taking it. I recently read about an effect that causes flu like symptoms when someone uses too much cs at first. Could someone refresh my memory and if this is what I am feeling, what should I do? Judy _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion: too much cs
Thom, Thanks for the reply. I know if a little is good that does not necessarily mean a lot is better, but each time I took it my throat felt better so I just kept taking it. Judy
CSQuestion: Too much cs
You have a cold. You aren`t getting enough CS! Take 3 big swallows, at least a cupful total a day, see if that`ll help. OK, Marshalee, Bottoms Up!! Thanks, Judy
Re: CSQuestion: too much cs - Herxheimer revisited
Jason, Thanks for this great info. Judy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: CSQuestion: too much cs
Hi, Can anyone comment on these two situations? Thank you, nan - Original Message - From: nan To: csh...@farmerstel.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion: too much cs i can relate to that. i've had a little tightness in my chest. But i have energy, don;t feel sick. i can cough up something, only if i try. i am still blowing some but not a lot. it is still mostly clear. i do have drainage but no sore throat. My ears are itchy and very dry. Feel like they may be trying to open up or heal. But they are not stopped up. i have had a shooting pain in one or the other of them a few times. i have a feeling deep in my ear, sometimes when i swallow also. - Original Message - From: Connie To: nan Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: RE: CSQuestion: too much cs since last tuesday i have had a tighness in my chest. very unconfortable at times. was being to think it was pnemonia. this am I started coughing some phlegm up and nose was really full when i firt got up. chest has not hurt today but do have drainage running down back of throat, also have a slight sore throat and maybe a stopped up ear, you know like it feels like something is in my ear when i swallow -Original Message- From: nan [mailto:n...@wingnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:25 AM To: Connie Subject: Fw: CSQuestion: too much cs - Original Message - From: ol...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion: too much cs Judy: I don't think you are taking too much, but I'm not the expert here. I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I consumed more than you at first. I think around 2 or 3 ounces 3 times a day increasing a little each day but not more than 5 to 6 ounces. I felt like I was getting the flu or a heavy cold. I had heavy sinus 'junk' I coughed up a little phlegm but not much. My chest felt heavy for a spell but all is OK now. I didn't really get down as I worked every day with sufficient energy. My guess is that I had the HERX reaction. But again, I'm not the expert. My wife started taking a couple of teaspoons late yesterday and said she had to keep 'clearing' her throat. I had that two, but not now. Keep in touch, maybe others will contribute similar experiences. I posted my questions about this reaction on the list but received NO replies. Thom
