RE: CSRe: Glutathione uptake
Hi Roe, I have given colloidal silver to my daughter for the last 5 years (she is now 9yrs old), but not constantly. She gets to spray her sinus and gargle if she feels a cold coming on, but that is not very often. Ivan -Original Message- From: Rosemarie Dubrowsky [mailto:roeath...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 10:11 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Glutathione uptake Hello.. my name is Roe and I am new to this list. I have been using CS for myself for about a year or so, but only the store bought. I am planning on making my own in the near future because I am considering using for my son and husband. I am posting back about glutathione because I have run into the oral being wasteful in doing research for my son, who has autism. I have, for about the last 9 months been giving my son glutathione suppositories just about every night. I have seen some improvement in his health and connectiveness to the world as a result of this. I have also been treating for things like parasites, yeast, etc for him and feel that this is really key for his continued improvement. My 1st question is... have people used cs on their children? My son is 7 yrs old and weighs about 78 pounds and is 4 feet 5 inches tall. If you have used it, what kind of protocal is used? Thanks for any feedback! Roe -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Glutathione uptake
Hi Duncan I got lost (again) ... You are saying there are 4 types of glutathione, but then you are saying GSH and GPx are the most important forms. I didn't know there are so many types of glutathione (do you have any basic papers on that?) and second which is abbreviated by GSH? I thought GSH = glutathione? Maia --- Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: Lona, I've seen those advertisements too... Cumin may increase glutathione by 700% from what level? Note in the study that follows, GST was increased an AVERAGE of 78%; it is the form of glutathione increased by several foods including cumin, however GSH and GPx are arguably more important glutathione forms as they are used in much greater quantities in the body. The limiting factor to glutathione production is cystine and cysteine- containing molecules, and also selenium in the case of GPx. Without the precursors present the cells can not make glutathione so these precursors will remain the limiting factor for four forms of glutathione. Not addressing precursor availability would be similar in a way, to increasing liver function potential with bitter herbs or drugs while ignoring hepatic stones that block the bile flow and necessitate the recirculation of toxic waste produced. I found only three peer-reviewed studies in a search on cumin AND glutathione. Here's the most applicable: __ Plant products as protective agents against cancer. Aruna K, Sivaramakrishnan VM. Isotope Division, Cancer Institute, Madras, India. Out of various spices and leafy vegetables screened for their influence on the carcinogen-detoxifying enzyme, glutathione-S-transferase (GST) in Swiss mice, cumin seeds, poppy seeds, asafoetida, turmeric, kandathipili, neem flowers, manathakkali leaves, drumstick leaves, basil leaves and ponnakanni leaves increased GST activity by more than 78% in the stomach, liver and oesophagus, - high enough to be considered as protective agents against carcinogenesis. Glutathione levels were also significantly elevated in the three tissues by these plant products. All of them except neem flowers, significantly suppressed (in vivo) the chromosome aberrations (CA) caused by benzo(a)pyrene in mouse bone marrow cells. Multiple CA and exchanges reflecting the severity of damage within a cell were significantly suppressed by these nine plant products. The results suggest that these nine plant products are likely to suppress carcinogenesis and can act as protective agents against cancer. PMID: 2283166 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ___ Duncan Crow I have read the Cumin increases your levels by 700%. Lona -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Glutathione uptake
Hi Maia; You can look up each form of glutathione readily on Medline... Each glutathione, and each antioxidant, has a specific function that it performs best. Dr.Jimmy Gutman's book, Glutathione Your Body's Most Powerful Healing Agent is a good start on glutathione, with piles of peer-reviewed references. That material on Medline is more organized in the book. Glutathione nd all the other antioxidants are covered fully in Dr. White and Dr. McLeod's bood The Miracle of Antioxidants. Both books are written as refernces; I use them both in my workshops. Duncan Crow Hi Duncan I got lost (again) ... You are saying there are 4 types of glutathione, but then you are saying GSH and GPx are the most important forms. I didn't know there are so many types of glutathione (do you have any basic papers on that?) and second which is abbreviated by GSH? I thought GSH = glutathione? Maia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Glutathione uptake
I have read the Cumin increases your levels by 700%. Lona Explore Washington State on my homepage. http://tahomagirl.com - The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --- Eleanor Roosevelt -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veterans-chat/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Glutathione uptake
Lona, I've seen those advertisements too... Cumin may increase glutathione by 700% from what level? Note in the study that follows, GST was increased an AVERAGE of 78%; it is the form of glutathione increased by several foods including cumin, however GSH and GPx are arguably more important glutathione forms as they are used in much greater quantities in the body. The limiting factor to glutathione production is cystine and cysteine- containing molecules, and also selenium in the case of GPx. Without the precursors present the cells can not make glutathione so these precursors will remain the limiting factor for four forms of glutathione. Not addressing precursor availability would be similar in a way, to increasing liver function potential with bitter herbs or drugs while ignoring hepatic stones that block the bile flow and necessitate the recirculation of toxic waste produced. I found only three peer-reviewed studies in a search on cumin AND glutathione. Here's the most applicable: __ Plant products as protective agents against cancer. Aruna K, Sivaramakrishnan VM. Isotope Division, Cancer Institute, Madras, India. Out of various spices and leafy vegetables screened for their influence on the carcinogen-detoxifying enzyme, glutathione-S-transferase (GST) in Swiss mice, cumin seeds, poppy seeds, asafoetida, turmeric, kandathipili, neem flowers, manathakkali leaves, drumstick leaves, basil leaves and ponnakanni leaves increased GST activity by more than 78% in the stomach, liver and oesophagus, - high enough to be considered as protective agents against carcinogenesis. Glutathione levels were also significantly elevated in the three tissues by these plant products. All of them except neem flowers, significantly suppressed (in vivo) the chromosome aberrations (CA) caused by benzo(a)pyrene in mouse bone marrow cells. Multiple CA and exchanges reflecting the severity of damage within a cell were significantly suppressed by these nine plant products. The results suggest that these nine plant products are likely to suppress carcinogenesis and can act as protective agents against cancer. PMID: 2283166 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ___ Duncan Crow I have read the Cumin increases your levels by 700%. Lona -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Glutathione uptake
Hello.. my name is Roe and I am new to this list. I have been using CS for myself for about a year or so, but only the store bought. I am planning on making my own in the near future because I am considering using for my son and husband. I am posting back about glutathione because I have run into the oral being wasteful in doing research for my son, who has autism. I have, for about the last 9 months been giving my son glutathione suppositories just about every night. I have seen some improvement in his health and connectiveness to the world as a result of this. I have also been treating for things like parasites, yeast, etc for him and feel that this is really key for his continued improvement. My 1st question is... have people used cs on their children? My son is 7 yrs old and weighs about 78 pounds and is 4 feet 5 inches tall. If you have used it, what kind of protocal is used? Thanks for any feedback! Roe Oral glutathione is wasteful. GSH is absorbed at less than 10% orally but breathing it via aerosol you do get good local-only absorption in the lungs or sinuses. This has been in the medical research for years. Imagine the good it would do if the people didn't waste 90% of their glutathione increase. I treat the whole client by giving the precursors and allowing the cells to do their job and produce their own. Then you don't miss any cells. cheers Duncan Crow _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
