Re: CSRe Lyme disease

2008-03-21 Thread Sandee George
Hi There to all - those of you who are challenged by the above go to Dr
Clark's
site and look at her news letter for this month it is all there !
i...@drclark.com - www.drclark.com
Happy Easter to all
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset
http://www.alive-again.net/


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Re: CSRe: Lyme disease and CS

2006-02-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
I just use the Bob Beck protocol, and substitute the Clark Zapper in
place of his blood electrification.  I believe both give similar results.

Marshall

Sandee George wrote:

 Hi There Marshal - how would you use the Colloidal Silver with
 the Clark Zapper ?
 Thanks
 Sandee

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CSRe: Lyme disease and CS

2006-02-20 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Marshal - how would you use the Colloidal Silver with
the Clark Zapper ?
Thanks
Sandee


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CSRe: Lyme Disease Cure

2004-06-28 Thread TheSkyKing
I happen to know a lot about curing Lyme Disease.

Cats Claw and Silver are very helpful.  The problem with curing Lyme Disease 
is that ANY antibiotic in the body (including cats claw and silver) induce the 
organism into a chronic, dormant form.  The only way to kill it permamantly 
and get cured (this is proven), is to use some type of attack that does not 
induce the organism's defense mechanism.  The best tool for this, with lots 
of proven track record, is the rife machine.  See the following link:

http://hometown.aol.com/theskyking/myhomepage/listings.htm

There is a discussion group for sharing information on these machines:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lyme-and-rife

Bryan

Disclaimer:  I'm not a doctor and I don't sell these machines.


Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Hank
Hi JBB, it opened fine for me. If you can't get to the page I can copy it and 
send to you.
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka
http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/hdka/menact.html

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Britten 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


  Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.  
  Thanks.




  JBB


  On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

   You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
   MYCOPLASMA
   The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
   http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can 
   personally
   vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar 
   with
   his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly 
   reccommend it.
  
   All the best
   Jan Stoeten
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
   Subject: CSRe: Lyme
  
  
  
   http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
  
   Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus 
   most
   of
   the time.
  
   Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it. 
It
   is
   held by The United States Army.
  
   JOH
  
  
  
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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Stoeten
I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


 Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.  
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 JBB
 
 
 On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:
 
  You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
  MYCOPLASMA
  The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
  http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can 
  personally
  vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar 
  with
  his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly 
  reccommend it.
 
  All the best
  Jan Stoeten
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
  Subject: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
 
  http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
 
  Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus 
  most
  of
  the time.
 
  Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it. 
   It
  is
  held by The United States Army.
 
  JOH
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Here is the correct link:

http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



JBB



On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
Thanks.




JBB


On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar
with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
reccommend it.

All the best
Jan Stoeten


- Original Message -
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme




http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus
most

of

the time.

Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for 
it.

 It

is

held by The United States Army.

JOH



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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jan Stoeten
This is not really the correct link. The original link I proposed (
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html )  would bring the viewer to a biographical
sketch of Donald Scott, introducing him/her to Scott's degree of
credibility. Knowing who your author is creates an added dimension to the
document. On this page are links to the respective article(s).

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme


 Here is the correct link:

 http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



 JBB



 On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

  I have no problem accessing the site.
 
  All the best,
  Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
  Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
  Thanks.
 
 
 
 
  JBB
 
 
  On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:
 
  You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
  MYCOPLASMA
  The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
  http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
  personally
  vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar
  with
  his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
  reccommend it.
 
  All the best
  Jan Stoeten
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
  Subject: CSRe: Lyme
 
 
 
  http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm
 
  Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus
  most
  of
  the time.
 
  Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for
  it.
   It
  is
  held by The United States Army.
 
  JOH
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I stand corrected.   Oddly, the link you provided opens now, whereas 
previously, only the other one opened, at least with my navigator.


Apologies, and thanks again for the excellent link.   I have read 
Scott's material before, and it is sobering indeed.


BTW, one of the owners of SOTA Instruments, in Canada,  got interested 
in the Beck protocol precisely because she could not recover from 
chronic fatigue syndrome despite consultations with many doctors. 
Her reported success may suggest that Mr. Scott might want to know more 
about electromedicine if he does not already.


Lesley Punt of SOTA  used to write more about this topic, but FDA 
pressure may have made it difficult even to discuss medical uses of the 
Beck devices.





JBB




On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:47 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


This is not really the correct link. The original link I proposed (
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html )  would bring the viewer to a 
biographical

sketch of Donald Scott, introducing him/her to Scott's degree of
credibility. Knowing who your author is creates an added dimension to 
the

document. On this page are links to the respective article(s).

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Here is the correct link:

http://whale.to/m/scott7.html



JBB



On Monday, Feb 9, 2004, at 20:09 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


I have no problem accessing the site.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Lyme



Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.
Thanks.




JBB


On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:

You may want to visit the following site and download Donald 
Scott's

MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can
personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not 
familiar

with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly
reccommend it.

All the best
Jan Stoeten


- Original Message -
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme




http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans 
Incognitus

most

of

the time.

Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for
it.
 It

is

held by The United States Army.

JOH



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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-08 Thread Jan Stoeten
You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly reccommend it.

All the best
Jan Stoeten


- Original Message - 
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme



 http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

 Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus most
of
 the time.

 Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it.  It
is
 held by The United States Army.

 JOH



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Re: CSRe: Lyme

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Could you kindly check this link?  I get a File not Found message.  
Thanks.





JBB


On Sunday, Feb 8, 2004, at 19:12 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


You may want to visit the following site and download Donald Scott's
MYCOPLASMA
The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases at
http://www.whale.to/v/scott.html. I  know Donald Scott and can 
personally
vouch for his unblemished integrity and honesty. Anyone not familiar 
with
his work should defenitely become familiar with it. I highly 
reccommend it.


All the best
Jan Stoeten


- Original Message -
From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: CSRe: Lyme




http://www.rense.com/general48/mutl.htm

Donald Scott says most of them are Mycoplasma Fermentans Incognitus 
most

of

the time.

Somewhere, on an old hard drive, I have  a copy of the patent for it. 
 It

is

held by The United States Army.

JOH



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CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread jrowland
Thanks William and Marshall.  If I understand correctly,
Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS
proved successful LONG after?  Have an acquaintance who's had it
5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is
doing for her now, which is completely ineffective.  How much and
for how long did each of you take CS before success, please?  
I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without
sounding like the proverbial broken record.  (Gave her Marshalee's
success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.)
jr


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Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Well, it took me months to get completely over the symptoms, but that is
expected after 10 years of symptoms.  My sister also had lyme and the
antibiotics the doctor offered did not help much. She got about 90% better
with CS, but was able to completely get rid of it only after doing the full
beck protocol, primarily the magnetic pulsing.  It apparently set up in her
lymph system.

Marshall

jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

 Thanks William and Marshall.  If I understand correctly,
 Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS
 proved successful LONG after?  Have an acquaintance who's had it
 5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is
 doing for her now, which is completely ineffective.  How much and
 for how long did each of you take CS before success, please?
 I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without
 sounding like the proverbial broken record.  (Gave her Marshalee's
 success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.)
 jr

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Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Apparently it can get to hiding places that CS does not reach. I believe that
some of these are the lymph system, nerve ganglia, brain and cartilage.

Marshall

Robb Allen wrote:

 Hi Marshall.I'm wondering why cs doesn't help everyone with
 lyme.I know darn good and well that it will kill it.but it doesn't
 seem to reach where I need it too..any
 thoughts?suggestions?.Robb

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

  Well, it took me months to get completely over the symptoms, but that is
  expected after 10 years of symptoms.  My sister also had lyme and the
  antibiotics the doctor offered did not help much. She got about 90% better
  with CS, but was able to completely get rid of it only after doing the
 full
  beck protocol, primarily the magnetic pulsing.  It apparently set up in
 her
  lymph system.
 
  Marshall
 
  jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:
 
   Thanks William and Marshall.  If I understand correctly,
   Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS
   proved successful LONG after?  Have an acquaintance who's had it
   5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is
   doing for her now, which is completely ineffective.  How much and
   for how long did each of you take CS before success, please?
   I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without
   sounding like the proverbial broken record.  (Gave her Marshalee's
   success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.)
   jr
  
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Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread Robb Allen
Hi Marshall.I'm wondering why cs doesn't help everyone with
lyme.I know darn good and well that it will kill it.but it doesn't
seem to reach where I need it too..any
thoughts?suggestions?.Robb

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work


 Well, it took me months to get completely over the symptoms, but that is
 expected after 10 years of symptoms.  My sister also had lyme and the
 antibiotics the doctor offered did not help much. She got about 90% better
 with CS, but was able to completely get rid of it only after doing the
full
 beck protocol, primarily the magnetic pulsing.  It apparently set up in
her
 lymph system.

 Marshall

 jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

  Thanks William and Marshall.  If I understand correctly,
  Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS
  proved successful LONG after?  Have an acquaintance who's had it
  5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is
  doing for her now, which is completely ineffective.  How much and
  for how long did each of you take CS before success, please?
  I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without
  sounding like the proverbial broken record.  (Gave her Marshalee's
  success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.)
  jr
 
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Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread william meyer

abx (antibiotics) can be succesful against lyme, especially earlier
in it's progress. oral abx's can be mixed, matched and timed to have
greater or lesser effect according to the skill of the prescriber
and the length of infection. IV is similar, but is usually considered
the only resort for cases past a year. really, these treatments are
an art that only dedicated lyme doctors can prescribe and
manipulate succesfully.  really!
on the other hand, straight doxy begun within a few weeks may effect
a cure depending on lot's of factors.
colloidal silver has been helpful at all stages. no studies to bear this
out but lot's of solid anecdote from our list. me being one.
there are many things in the alternative realm regards to lyme
that won't hurt and have a good chance of helping. most of
the treatments actually strengthen the body so that one may
help other conditions as well as lyme.







Thanks William and Marshall.  If I understand correctly,
Doxy is successful if employed soon after being infected, while CS
proved successful LONG after?  Have an acquaintance who's had it
5 years and dismisses trying CS in favor of whatever her doc is
doing for her now, which is completely ineffective.  How much and
for how long did each of you take CS before success, please? 
I'd like to point her to something definitely positive, without

sounding like the proverbial broken record.  (Gave her Marshalee's
success story, too, but it wasn't enough to convince her to try it.)
jr


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Re: CSRe: LYME-it does work

2003-12-11 Thread Val Morten
i was told you need a hot bath every day to get the bug out of its 
hideing
places in the body, and must keep the blood saturated with silver for at
least 30 days after you think you are over it.
roger
 
 Hi Marshall.I'm wondering why cs doesn't help everyone with
 lyme.I know darn good and well that it will kill it.but it doesn't
 seem to reach where I need it too..any
 thoughts?suggestions?.Robb
 
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CSRe: [Lyme-Aid] chroniocally ill problems gut, liver g/b???????

2003-11-11 Thread Val Morten
 
 
  someone posted the following article on another list and I'm copying
  it herei find that this article explains oh so much
 
 
 
   pos for stealth, neurotoxins - in the past had herpes 6 and
  epstein barr - have been laid up for months by bug bites so
 something
  is definitely wrong with the immune system - rnasel tested high a
 few
  years ago.  but i love the explanation of cell membrane
  problems...here's the article:
  ...Healing the membrane is virtually...healing the brain...
 
  --
  NEUROTOXIC SYNDROMES
  --
 
  The Detoxx System:
  Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes
 
  By John Foster, M.D., Patricia Kane, Ph.D., Neal Speight, M.D.
 
  Chronically ill individuals suffering from neurotoxin exposure
  impacts patient populations with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS, Autism,
  Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS,
  Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Toxic Building Syndrome, Estuary
  Associated Syndrome, Psychosis, Diabetes without family Hx, Optic
  Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal Toxicity, Pulmonary Hemorrhage,
  Stroke. Patients diagnosed with these chronic illnesses may be
  potentially classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with
  the endothelial cell membrane as the target of degeneration.
 
  While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is
  ultimately a membrane event, essentially disrupting the
 phospholipids
  that structure the membrane. Agglomeration (blocked cellular
 exposure
  to blood flow/nutrients and impaired cell-to-cell communication)
  indicates elevation of phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of
  eicosanoids from the cell membrane causing inflammation. The
  agglomeration that eventually occurs is, in essence, a product of a
  weakened membrane, and ultimately a disturbed red cell fatty acid
  profile.
 
  Clinical Research
 
  We have established a biomedical protocol in our clinics, The
  Haverford Wellness Center in Havertown, PA and The Center for
  Wellness in Charlotte, NC for patients with neurotoxic illness.
  Our biomedical approach is an attempt to reach the systemic nature
 of
  these tenacious neurotoxic syndromes and provide clinically proven
  methods that eradicate neurotoxins. Our course of action is that of
  freeing the patient of pervasive symptoms of neurotoxic illness in a
  noninvasive manner that heals the membrane, and ultimately the body
  and brain.
 
  The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D., as
  communicated in his book Desperation Medicine and his peer reviewed
  papers (Shoemaker 2001), lends strong support to a connection
 between
  Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria
  infection and that of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes.
 
  Biotoxins as Neurotoxins
 
  The presentation of biotoxin exposure often parallels neurological
  and psychological impairment due to the interrelationship between
 the
  ENS (Enteral Nervous System) and the CNS. The biliary tree, gall
  bladder, and bile formation within the liver serve in the vital
  processes of detoxication (disposal of waste products bilirubin,
  heavy metals, biotoxins, xenobiotics), lipid metabolism, transport
  and digestion (bile acids). Abnormalities of the hepatobiliary
 system
  may involve biliary stasis whereby infectious material or biotoxins
  reside within the liver, biliary tree and gall bladder, as a viscous
  suspension in biliary sludge.
 
  Biotoxins as bacteria, viruses, parasites, spirochetes,
  dinoflagelletes, and fungus may be within biliary sludge often
  creating neurotoxins impacting the CNS via the ENS, or the Second
  Brain (gut). The occurrence of biliary sludge may be due to
 prolonged
  fasting, low fat intake, high carbohydrate diets or exposure to
  pathogens. Restriction of dietary fat may impair biliary flow which
  would be contraindicated in attempting to clear toxicity as bile is
  paramount to cleansing the body and getting biotoxins and heavy
  metals excreted into the fecal matter.
 
  Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons)
  that are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and sulfate atoms arranged in
  such a way as to make the outside of the molecule fat loving and
  water hating. As such, once it enters the body, it tends to bind to
  structures that are rich in fat such as most of our cells,
 especially
  the liver, kidney, and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving
  in fatty tissue and moving through it, crossing cell membranes
  (transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium)
  disrupting the electrical balance of the cell itself.
 
  As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from
  the GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint to nerve,
  whereby they eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once
  neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver, the body
  is poisoned 

CSRe: Lyme book

2003-03-15 Thread jrowland
 ...cannot find a review on the net---jr
 ...the above is a listing on ABEBOOKS.COM---DAVIDO
Thanks, David, but found no review there.
jr


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CSRe: Lyme Book

2003-03-14 Thread jrowland
Thanks, Bernadette, sorry to hear LD has affected you and family.  Tuned
into the broadcast after the Lyme portion was discussed, but was
impressed by the author's ability to keep the interviewer silent with a
sure-handed steady staccato of who's who and history of bio-terror. 
(Regular listeners of Barbara Simpson will know what I mean!) 
jr


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CSRe: Lyme disease Treatment

2001-05-21 Thread Dr. Bill Biagioli
Allen,

Treating Lyme Disease should be a multi-protocol treatment. Relying on a single 
treatment has rarely been completely successful long term.

We have used a combination of CS (12 PPM True) and a Rife type machine.  
Although the originator of the EMEM style machines uses the EMEM as the sole 
treatment, my experience has shown a faster and surer cure with both.

The BioWave machine has been wonderful in its cure rate for several disorders 
ranging from fibrous cysts (Multiple) in female breast tissue, migraine 
headaches, Lyme, and many others too numerous to mention, we ALWAYS use CS as a 
part of the complete treatment.

Should you want more information, feel free to call me at 828-321-2577 or 
E-Mail me at an...@webworkz.com and we can discuss the efficacy of the various 
treatments.

Bill Biagioli, N.M.D.





CSRe: Lyme - slime

1999-07-17 Thread BBirecki
Hi,

Re:

 It is my understanding that Dr Becks devices (blood-electrification) will 
eliminate Lymes disease. 

Dr. Beck is in Columbus this weekend and will be talking Saturday and Sunday 
in a two-part lecture about his 'first aid kit of the future', his blood 
electrifier, magnetic 'thumper' and ozone therapy.

He is speaking at the University Ramada near Ohio State University.

From the Sota Instruments site:

July 11, 1999: Come and hear Dr. Beck in person at the US Psychotronics 
Seminar in Columbus, OH. Where: Ramada University Hotel. When: July 17, 
18, and 19, 1999. Info: Call 1-414-742-4790. u...@elknet.net and Web is: 
http://www.elknet.net/ SOTA will have a booth at this seminar. See you 
there! 

Bernie


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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-22 Thread Scharbach
Vilik,

DId the silver  you were taking, help your trip go well?

Did you have energy?

Sparrow

Dear CS Folks,

I am taking WaterOz, which has a much higher ppm than CS Pro or homemade.
Is that good or bad or what?

Vilik
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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-22 Thread boberger
Donna,

Don't buy wateroz until I test the sample that one of the list members said he
would send me on Monday. I suspect that it is a fruad also.

Question? Why don't you make your own?  I have people wanting to buy my
technology
but I really don't want to get invovled in a lot of manufacturing.  I have run
several hundred studies on the making of CS and I know how to make good small
particle CS
that is colorless with a weak Tyndall and high ppm 20 and up. The HVAC boys can
only make that type of CS up to about 12 to 14 ppm.

I have not yet exhausted the best electronic devices to accomplish what I want.
Which is
long life battery operation that is self contained in one cylinder about 4
diameter by 8 tall.

Robert




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RE: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Not everyone has a reaction.  The first thing you notice may just be overall 
better health.  How about no colds in 3 or more years?
James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

-Original Message-
From:   Marie [SMTP:atthel...@snet.net]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

What are the names and addresses of the companies who sell CS and CS
products? Which one sells the gallon? Taking small amounts of CS. with no
reaction. Going to higher doses.

Rita B


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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-19 Thread Donna2424
 A HREF=http://www.wateroz.com/;wateroz ionic mineral waters non colloidal
/A  http://www.wateroz.com/platinum.htm

A HREF=http://csprosystems.com/;CS PRO Systems/A
http://csprosystems.com/

Rita,
Hope this helps,
Donna


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CSRe: Lyme tests positive

1999-05-18 Thread Jnenorth
Are you getting the correct Lyme tests? The ELISA and Western Blot. The Lyme 
titer most physicians use is completely useless.

Susan

In a message dated 99-05-14 13:57:00 EDT, you write:

There's a trick to getting the lyme tests to show positive.  


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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-18 Thread Jnenorth
Donna, 
I would like to know too re Lyme and how you treated it--I have 3rd stage, so 
anything would help. The CS has started to cut the pain dramatically over the 
last 4 mons. Also, how much and what strength.

Thanks,
Susan

In a message dated 99-05-14 14:03:58 EDT, sho...@up.net writes:

 Donna,
 
 I looked over your back posts and it appears you've been battling lyme. Is
 that correct? I take it that when you're killing that off that you get a
 dieoff, like a candida person would. Also correct? And you got over your
 lyme with basically the CS?
 
 I really need to get past these horrible dieoffs but now it appears from
 what many are saying that CS is no good for yeast. So I may have to leave
 to list and look elsewhere. I'm so disappointed that I can't begin to tell
 you.
 
 Sharon
  


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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-18 Thread Donna2424
In a message dated 5/D/YY 8:48:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jneno...@aol.com 
writes:

 Donna, 
 I would like to know too re Lyme and how you treated it--I have 3rd stage, 
so 
 anything would help. The CS has started to cut the pain dramatically over 
the 
 last 4 mons. Also, how much and what strength.
 
 Thanks,
 Susan 
Susan,
  I have been taking CS, bought, for about 3 months now.  I was making it 
myself for awhile but just could not find the time to sit there a make sure 
everything was the same everytime.  Not only that but there are to many 
variables that can change from time to time.  I am now taking about 3 ounces 
a day for the lyme.  In between herxes I feel pretty good, it is when I start 
to herx that I just get all panicky and think.this is not working.  I 
have no joint pain with the herx anymore, nor do I get it in between.  I seem 
to ache with the herx, this time I had a rash with it.  Only on my hands.   
The Cs I take is 10-15ppm.  I am going to stay at this dose until the herxes 
level off.  I probably should decrease alittle bit to make it easier but I 
want to get this over with.
Hope this helps,
Donna


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Re: CSRe: Lyme tests positive

1999-05-18 Thread Marie
Lyme Literate MDs use LL labs. One in CT and one in CA.

Rita B
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Re: CSRe: Lyme treatment with CS

1999-05-18 Thread Donna2424
Rita,
  Two good ones are CSPro and wateroz.  CSPro is 10-15 ppm and wateroz is 
100ppm.  Success has been seen with lyme from both of these.
Donna


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