Re: CSRe: Scabies
Hi Nancy, Mothball smell. Leaving a bucket of straw in water will absorb most smells. I have used the method of boiling pineapple peels in a room whichn had had kittens in it and that worked quickly. hth, Tony On 8 Nov 2007 at 20:50, Tad Winiecki wrote about : Subject : Re: CSRe: Scabies Scott- They were using DE, and moth balls. It turns out they had sent a couple of samples to my doctor sister and she admitted when leaving that one sample had springtails. She seemed to think this was inconsequential. I had seen springtail also known as Collembola information through google, some people have claimed to have a problem being bitten by them. My brother seems convinced this is the source of their problem and is trying different things on them. I'll report if he feels something succeeds. Anyone heard of this? I don't think he left any critters here but I can't get the moth ball smell out of my guest bedroom. We even ran the ozone generator in there a couple of times. Nancy On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Scott wrote: So, when I dust my house, I do it everywhere using a talcum powder bottle or something that has small holes that will disperse the DE fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper ones will work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour after dusting. Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Scabies
Scott- They were using DE, and moth balls. It turns out they had sent a couple of samples to my doctor sister and she admitted when leaving that one sample had springtails. She seemed to think this was inconsequential. I had seen springtail also known as Collembola information through google, some people have claimed to have a problem being bitten by them. My brother seems convinced this is the source of their problem and is trying different things on them. I'll report if he feels something succeeds. Anyone heard of this? I don't think he left any critters here but I can't get the moth ball smell out of my guest bedroom. We even ran the ozone generator in there a couple of times. Nancy On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Scott wrote: So, when I dust my house, I do it everywhere using a talcum powder bottle or something that has small holes that will disperse the DE fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper ones will work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour after dusting. Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sorry about the lack of awareness regarding this post. Anyhow, scabies and other such pests must have a host to live. They can live for awhile without one but they must have a host to survive. So, when I dust my house, I do it everywhere using a talcum powder bottle or something that has small holes that will disperse the DE fairly well. Make sure to where a filtering mask (paper ones will work) when spreading the DE. Also, make sure all pets are put outdoors or take them to someone else's house for at least one hour after dusting. You may dust your pets after they come back in but be sure you do not allow them to inhale a lot of the powder. I will vacuum the house, furniture, mattresses and pillows a few hours after dusting to ensure the DE has settled. Use a micron-filtered or hepa-filtered vacuum, otherwise you will have a dust bowl in your home. Repeat dusting the home at the change of seasons - spring to summer, summer to winter, winter to spring. Do pets after bathing them. I also put a half teaspoon of DE in my small dog's food for 10 days on, 10 days off for as long as I notice any pest problems. If your vet is familiar with DE, check with them for type/size of your pet and their suggested protocol. Hope this helps and I apologize for not responding to this reply. Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: My brother in Houston claims to have been having major problems for a couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. He's planning to come visit me next month so I am concerned that he eliminate this problem before he comes. I know he uses DE in his carpet. What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, would that kill mites? If I sprinkled DE on a laminate floor would it scratch the surface? I don't know if he actually has scabies, does it have to be spread by close contact or do the scabies jump off and infest beds, etc? Nancy -- On Sep 8, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Scott wrote: I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I vacuumed indoors the following day. It's cheap and works great! Take care. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.
CSRe: Scabies
What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, would that kill mites? Maybe, but it would most likely have to be a high concentration for an extended period of time, so may not be practical. The DE should work though, and since it isn't toxic, he could use a lot of it if necessary... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Where do you buy DE. My girlfriend told me I could use it in the garden against ants which is a problem around here. I was also reading that the CS could be sprayed on plants and watered in soil to help with fungus/bacteria that plants get. Squash is really bad about that, I think they call it wilt. Dianne - Original Message - From: Simon Jestermailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: CSRe: Scabies What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, would that kill mites? Maybe, but it would most likely have to be a high concentration for an extended period of time, so may not be practical. The DE should work though, and since it isn't toxic, he could use a lot of it if necessary... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dianne- I get some health store and bulk type items from www.azurestandard.com out of Oregon. They are a co-op that sends out trucks to drops all up and down the west coast. If you live in their area they could probably connect you with a drop. I believe they also will ship. Diatomaceous Earth GP010 50 lbs. $20.45 GP009 5 lbs. $6.25 Nancy On Sep 14, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Dianne France wrote: Where do you buy DE. My girlfriend told me I could use it in the garden against ants which is a problem around here. I was also reading that the CS could be sprayed on plants and watered in soil to help with fungus/bacteria that plants get. Squash is really bad about that, I think they call it wilt. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Scabies
My brother in Houston claims to have been having major problems for a couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. He's planning to come visit me next month so I am concerned that he eliminate this problem before he comes. I know he uses DE in his carpet. What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, would that kill mites? If I sprinkled DE on a laminate floor would it scratch the surface? I don't know if he actually has scabies, does it have to be spread by close contact or do the scabies jump off and infest beds, etc? Nancy -- On Sep 8, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Scott wrote: I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I vacuumed indoors the following day. It's cheap and works great! Take care. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Scabies
--On 13 September 2007 14:44:08 -0700 Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: I don't know if he actually has scabies, does it have to be spread by close contact or do the scabies jump off and infest beds, etc? It's often thought by the medics that it requires close contact, and more likely to be caught, because it spreads so, through people having a series of relationships. WHich is true. ANd so oftenthe case. The mites can't live long without human host (72 hours). But, it can be picked up through cloth -towels, sofas and bedding. JOhn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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FIY: Scabies (SKAY-bees) What is scabies? Scabies is an infestation of the skin with the microscopic mite Sarcoptes scabei. Infestation is common, found worldwide, and affects people of all races and social classes. Scabies spreads rapidly under crowded conditions where there is frequent skin-to-skin contact between people, such as in hospitals, institutions, child-care facilities, and nursing homes. What are the signs and symptoms of scabies infestation? a.. Pimple-like irritations, burrows or rash of the skin, especially the webbing between the fingers; the skin folds on the wrist, elbow, or knee; the penis, the breast, or shoulder blades. b.. Intense itching, especially at night and over most of the body. c.. Sores on the body caused by scratching. These sores can sometimes become infected with bacteria. How did I get scabies? By direct, prolonged, skin-to-skin contact with a person already infested with scabies. Contact must be prolonged (a quick handshake or hug will usually not spread infestation). Infestation is easily spread to sexual partners and household members. Infestation may also occur by sharing clothing, towels, and bedding. Who is at risk for severe infestation? People with weakened immune systems and the elderly are at risk for a more severe form of scabies, called Norwegian or crusted scabies. How long will mites live? Once away from the human body, mites do not survive more than 48-72 hours. When living on a person, an adult female mite can live up to a month. Did my pet spread scabies to me? No. Pets become infested with a different kind of scabies mite. If your pet is infested with scabies, (also called mange) and they have close contact with you, the mite can get under your skin and cause itching and skin irritation. However, the mite dies in a couple of days and does not reproduce. The mites may cause you to itch for several days, but you do not need to be treated with special medication to kill the mites. Until your pet is successfully treated, mites can continue to burrow into your skin and cause you to have symptoms. How soon after infestation will symptoms begin? For a person who has never been infested with scabies, symptoms may take 4-6 weeks to begin. For a person who has had scabies, symptoms appear within several days. You do not become immune to an infestation. How is scabies infestation diagnosed? Diagnosis is most commonly made by looking at the burrows or rash. A skin scraping may be taken to look for mites, eggs, or mite fecal matter to confirm the diagnosis. If a skin scraping or biopsy is taken and returns negative, it is possible that you may still be infested. Typically, there are fewer than 10 mites on the entire body of an infested person; this makes it easy for an infestation to be missed. Can scabies be treated? Yes. Several lotions are available to treat scabies. Always follow the directions provided by your physician or the directions on the package insert. Apply lotion to a clean body from the neck down to the toes and left overnight (8 hours). After 8 hours, take a bath or shower to wash off the lotion. Put on clean clothes. All clothes, bedding, and towels used by the infested person 2 days before treatment should be washed in hot water; dry in a hot dryer. A second treatment of the body with the same lotion may be necessary 7-10 days later. Pregnant women and children are often treated with milder scabies medications. Who should be treated for scabies? Anyone who is diagnosed with scabies, as well as his or her sexual partners and persons who have close, prolonged contact to the infested person should also be treated. If your health care provider has instructed family members to be treated, everyone should receive treatment at the same time to prevent reinfestation. How soon after treatment will I feel better? Itching may continue for 2-3 weeks, and does not mean that you are still infested. Your health care provider may prescribe additional medication to relieve itching if it is severe. No new burrows or rashes should appear 24-48 hours after effective treatment. This fact sheet is for information only and is not meant to be used for self-diagnosis or as a substitute for consultation with a health care provider. If you have any questions about the disease described above or think that you may have a parasitic infection, consult a health care provider. javascript:history.back(1) My brother in Houston claims to have been having major problems for a couple of years with an invisible no-see-um that he picked up near Waco. He's planning to come visit me next month so I am concerned that he eliminate this problem before he comes. I know he uses DE in his carpet. What about ozone released in the room while no one is present, would that kill mites? If I sprinkled DE on a laminate floor would it scratch the surface? I don't know if he actually has scabies, does it
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Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard On 07/09/2007, at 15:36, ransley wrote: Diatomaceous Earth will kill Scabies mites. Even Pool Grade DE will kill them. If this person has it all over, that's really going to be tough. Common insectide dusting powders like 5% Sevin Dust will kill them fast but may cause some reaction. Permethrin Dust will work even faster but may be very irritating. I would do those only for a very few days, then switch over to plain DE. Plain DE will get them, just slower. The treatment must go on until all eggs are hatched. The itch will last for 2-3 weeks because of detritus buried in the skin. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM
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Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard You don't *take* DE for scabies, you apply it externally. You can take food grade DE for intestinal parasites, but you never take pool grade DE internally. BTW, my own recommendations for EXTERNAL use of any actual pesticides such as Sevin (Carbaryl) or Permethrin are to be taken with a huge dose of caution. I can apply Sevin to my body but a couple of days of it made me feel woozy. I can't take skin contact with Permethrin, it irritates me and makes me itch as bad as scabies. Ode suggested an OTC Lindane medication, and I'd bet Lice Spray and/or Lice shampoo would work, but I can't have any contact with Lindane. I killed Termites in a building with Lindane once and I couldn't go back in it for a month. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM
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I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I vacuumed indoors the following day. It's cheap and works great! Take care. ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard You don't *take* DE for scabies, you apply it externally. You can take food grade DE for intestinal parasites, but you never take pool grade DE internally. BTW, my own recommendations for EXTERNAL use of any actual pesticides such as Sevin (Carbaryl) or Permethrin are to be taken with a huge dose of caution. I can apply Sevin to my body but a couple of days of it made me feel woozy. I can't take skin contact with Permethrin, it irritates me and makes me itch as bad as scabies. Ode suggested an OTC Lindane medication, and I'd bet Lice Spray and/or Lice shampoo would work, but I can't have any contact with Lindane. I killed Termites in a building with Lindane once and I couldn't go back in it for a month. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Scott, many thanks for info -sounds just what is needed - Richard On 08/09/2007, at 19:11, Scott wrote: I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I vacuumed indoors the following day. It's cheap and works great! Take care. ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard You don't *take* DE for scabies, you apply it externally. You can take food grade DE for intestinal parasites, but you never take pool grade DE internally. BTW, my own recommendations for EXTERNAL use of any actual pesticides such as Sevin (Carbaryl) or Permethrin are to be taken with a huge dose of caution. I can apply Sevin to my body but a couple of days of it made me feel woozy. I can't take skin contact with Permethrin, it irritates me and makes me itch as bad as scabies. Ode suggested an OTC Lindane medication, and I'd bet Lice Spray and/or Lice shampoo would work, but I can't have any contact with Lindane. I killed Termites in a building with Lindane once and I couldn't go back in it for a month. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Where do you get the diatomaceous earth (Food grade)? I haven't heard of it but since the hurricane, many, many pestilences to deal with so think I might try that also. Glad something worked for ya! Leslie - Original Message - From: Scott To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Scabies I used Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) which worked wonderfully - internally and externally. I used one tablespoon mixed in my milk or Orange Juice for 10 days with 10 days off for six months. No more scabies, mites, etc. I dusted myself, my whole house (wearing a dust mask, of course) with the stuff and around the outside of my house. I vacuumed indoors the following day. It's cheap and works great! Take care. ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard You don't *take* DE for scabies, you apply it externally. You can take food grade DE for intestinal parasites, but you never take pool grade DE internally. BTW, my own recommendations for EXTERNAL use of any actual pesticides such as Sevin (Carbaryl) or Permethrin are to be taken with a huge dose of caution. I can apply Sevin to my body but a couple of days of it made me feel woozy. I can't take skin contact with Permethrin, it irritates me and makes me itch as bad as scabies. Ode suggested an OTC Lindane medication, and I'd bet Lice Spray and/or Lice shampoo would work, but I can't have any contact with Lindane. I killed Termites in a building with Lindane once and I couldn't go back in it for a month. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross -- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Yea...too much. Scabies are burrowing mites. They come out at night, travel a little and dig back in leaving lines of bites...bites in a row. Got them twice from sleeping on the same couch in an unoccupied log cabin way back in the Alabama woods two nights, 6 years apart. 1% Lindane lotion applied twice will get rid of scabies. It's over the counter now. Cost me $80 in the early 70s to get diagnosed, then prescribed for something I already knew what was but didn't know what to do about till after I filled the prescription. I could have gone to the farm supply store had I known what to get and cured it on me and a hundred other people for $5. One drop Lindane insecticide to 99 drops hand lotion. Next: Boil all your clothes and fumigate the couch and carpets etc. Those heat seeking suckers can hang around for decades. Might want to spray the dogs, cats and mice too. [They don't much like being boiled ] CS will make them very healthy. Do scabies and dust mites have wrestling matches? Ode At 07:54 PM 9/6/2007 +0200, you wrote: does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science. What else would you call them? Physics... that's science in theory, sometimes in practice Chemistry...that is science in both ways Geologyyes, on both counts Engineering, a resounding YES, on both counts and particularly because it is so very pratical. Biology... now there you have WAY too many variables to control, so it can hardly be called a true science Medicine no way, it is half lies (even learned drs say only half of what they teach is true, Ummm.. do you have any idea how many times what 'we' *knew* to be true in mathematics, or geology, or chemistry, etc, turned out to be *not* true? I think what you are talking about is the distinction between 'Science' and 'Dogma'... Science is supposed to simply be the organized, systematic search for truth, regardless of the field in which it is practiced. Most if not all of the problems with respect to science stem from becoming so personally invested in/attached to a belief in some theory that one loses their objectivity... I just do not understand why people do not like scientists. The only problem I have is with 'corporate' or 'commercial' scientists who have abandoned the search for truth in favor of the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Not that I am against pursuing wealth - not at all. As long as it doesn't come at the expense of the truth, I'm all for each of us accumulating as much as one is capable of. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM
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RE: CSRe: Scabies
Diatomaceous Earth will kill Scabies mites. Even Pool Grade DE will kill them. If this person has it all over, that's really going to be tough. Common insectide dusting powders like 5% Sevin Dust will kill them fast but may cause some reaction. Permethrin Dust will work even faster but may be very irritating. I would do those only for a very few days, then switch over to plain DE. Plain DE will get them, just slower. The treatment must go on until all eggs are hatched. The itch will last for 2-3 weeks because of detritus buried in the skin. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM
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Huh Richard r...@xxicenturysilver.com wrote: does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science. What else would you call them? Physics... that's science in theory, sometimes in practice Chemistry...that is science in both ways Geologyyes, on both counts Engineering, a resounding YES, on both counts and particularly because it is so very pratical. Biology... now there you have WAY too many variables to control, so it can hardly be called a true science Medicine no way, it is half lies (even learned drs say only half of what they teach is true, Ummm.. do you have any idea how many times what 'we' *knew* to be true in mathematics, or geology, or chemistry, etc, turned out to be *not* true? I think what you are talking about is the distinction between 'Science' and 'Dogma'... Science is supposed to simply be the organized, systematic search for truth, regardless of the field in which it is practiced. Most if not all of the problems with respect to science stem from becoming so personally invested in/attached to a belief in some theory that one loses their objectivity... I just do not understand why people do not like scientists. The only problem I have is with 'corporate' or 'commercial' scientists who have abandoned the search for truth in favor of the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Not that I am against pursuing wealth - not at all. As long as it doesn't come at the expense of the truth, I'm all for each of us accumulating as much as one is capable of. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott Young The ultimate healing is death. - Elisabeth Kugler-Ross - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
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does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science. What else would you call them? Physics... that's science in theory, sometimes in practice Chemistry...that is science in both ways Geologyyes, on both counts Engineering, a resounding YES, on both counts and particularly because it is so very pratical. Biology... now there you have WAY too many variables to control, so it can hardly be called a true science Medicine no way, it is half lies (even learned drs say only half of what they teach is true, Ummm.. do you have any idea how many times what 'we' *knew* to be true in mathematics, or geology, or chemistry, etc, turned out to be *not* true? I think what you are talking about is the distinction between 'Science' and 'Dogma'... Science is supposed to simply be the organized, systematic search for truth, regardless of the field in which it is practiced. Most if not all of the problems with respect to science stem from becoming so personally invested in/attached to a belief in some theory that one loses their objectivity... I just do not understand why people do not like scientists. The only problem I have is with 'corporate' or 'commercial' scientists who have abandoned the search for truth in favor of the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Not that I am against pursuing wealth - not at all. As long as it doesn't come at the expense of the truth, I'm all for each of us accumulating as much as one is capable of. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Richard Date: 09/06/07 18:55:20 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies Does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs Have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in The bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin But cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over This persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think you're thinking of scurvy. Dee wrote: I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Richard Date: 09/06/07 18:55:20 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies Does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs Have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in The bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin But cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over This persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dee, is that not scurvy ? thanks - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 20:04, Dee wrote: I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Richard Date: 09/06/07 18:55:20 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies Does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs Have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in The bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin But cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over This persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 19:13, Simon Jester wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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- Original Message - From: Shelli To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies I think you're thinking of scurvy. Dee wrote: I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee ---Original Message--- I've never heard of Morgellons. Just one more thing the pharmaceutical industry can cook up hideous medications for.Faith
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Not sure about CS, but borax or borax with H2O2 is supposed to work pretty well for scabies. http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/scabies.htm http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html Dan -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thank you Dan for trying to help . It must be a nightmare living with these little beasts literally under the skin - thanks Richard On 06/09/2007, at 20:48, Dan Nave wrote: Not sure about CS, but borax or borax with H2O2 is supposed to work pretty well for scabies. http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/scabies.htm http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html Dan -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would add Hydrogen Peroxide to washing sheets and bathe in it also; could dilute. I heard that would take care of morgolons which this does sound like it. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Scabies Not sure about CS, but borax or borax with H2O2 is supposed to work pretty well for scabies. http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/scabies.htm http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html Dan -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies does anyone on this list have any experience of SCABIES ?! Would cs have any effect ? Seem to remember a protocol where someone was in the bath with hundreds of little beasties coming out of their skin but cannot remember what was added to the water . They are all over this persons body so any help, much appreciated - Richard -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 9/6/2007 2:04:26 PM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee That's Scurvy... Chuck The Doc said that I suffered from kleptomania. I asked,What can I take for that? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Of course it is Shelli! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Shelli Date: 09/06/07 19:22:28 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies I think you're thinking of scurvy. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Youre right of course , Richard. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Richard Date: 06/09/2007 19:38:25 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Scabies Dee, is that not scurvy ? Thanks - Richard On 06/09/2007, at 20:04, Dee wrote: I thought scabies was a deficiency caused by lack of Vit C. This sounds more like Morgellons to me. Dee ---Original Message--- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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