Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
At 09:24 AM 11/18/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hi friends, I have posted this once before, and got no response. Surely there is someone who will offer some information. What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? I use around one drop per fluid ounce or less...like 6 drops to the quart. What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? Too little takes a long time or won't completely do what you want it to. Too much makes you look like a mad dog making faces in the mirror. Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? I find immediately very interesting..or to rescue a yellow batch. I think either way, you wind up with more very small silver colloidal particles Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. dunno. Ode I will appreciate anyones input. JOH No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.3.1 - Release Date: 11/15/2004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004
CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
I was able to clarify a gallon of heavily re-brewed EIS with about 2 ml of h2o2 in 3% solution. I let the batch peroxidize overnight, after letting the final re-brewing of the EIS stabilize for a day. Maybe the h2o2 is acting as a catalyst in splitting weak planes in the crystal lattice of the particulate fraction. If so, the important quantity may be the product of h2o2 concentration multiplied by the runtime, moreso than either factor separately. Though I have no evidence for it, I like to think of the h2o2 as splitting crystals, like a knife blade used to split mica into thinner and thinner crystalline sheets; time is a factor. Maybe the process could be made visible by observing the changes in TE at two different wavelengths, using both red and green laser pointers. Just a passing thought. Matthew
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 01:40, nancymike wrote: Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. NO I am curious to know what you base this on. It is my understanding that DMSO being a strong anti-oxidant will simply cancel out the strong oxidizing effect of H2O2. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
I think DMSO reacts with hydroxyl free radicals i.e. OH, whereas peroxide is a free radical in its own right H2O2. In theory it should not react with DMSO. Paul H - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:06 PM Subject: Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 01:40, nancymike wrote: Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. NO I am curious to know what you base this on. It is my understanding that DMSO being a strong anti-oxidant will simply cancel out the strong oxidizing effect of H2O2. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
Then why does it form DMSO2 aka MSM so easily in the body. So much so that a feedback mechanism has been theorized between the two molecules involving oxygen, not OH? Garnet On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 13:36, Paul Holloway wrote: I think DMSO reacts with hydroxyl free radicals i.e. OH, whereas peroxide is a free radical in its own right H2O2. In theory it should not react with DMSO. Paul H - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:06 PM Subject: Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 01:40, nancymike wrote: Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. NO I am curious to know what you base this on. It is my understanding that DMSO being a strong anti-oxidant will simply cancel out the strong oxidizing effect of H2O2. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
I didn't know that. I thought that DMSO very specifically mops up hydroxyl free radicals. What happens in the body doesn't necessarily happen in a test tube. Perhaps you're right though. It might be wise to add the peroxide to the silver, let it react, then add the DMSO, some of which may or may not be converted to MSM by any excess peroxide. Paul H - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS Then why does it form DMSO2 aka MSM so easily in the body. So much so that a feedback mechanism has been theorized between the two molecules involving oxygen, not OH? Garnet On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 13:36, Paul Holloway wrote: I think DMSO reacts with hydroxyl free radicals i.e. OH, whereas peroxide is a free radical in its own right H2O2. In theory it should not react with DMSO. Paul H -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
Hi friends, I have posted this once before, and got no response. Surely there is someone who will offer some information. What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. I will appreciate anyone's input. JOH
RE: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
Hi Jim, I read your questions originally, but didn't then nor now feel qualified to give much help: however, I'll share what I do and know does give good results for all who have used my CS. Upon making my CS with ONLY 1) Pure Steam distilled Water; 2) Pure .999 Silver and 3) A Radio Shack 13.5/30v (1 mA) generator (set at 30volts) for the proper length of time to obtain Clear CS with a nice Laser Tyndall Beam--I allow the new CS to settle overnight decant (slowly pour without shaking should there be a Silver precipitate) the clear CS into a gallon jug, Add 4 cc (ml) 3% H2O2 and shake then label. I have had no adverse reactions with this small quantity of H2O2, but believe that the Pathogen killing power is speeded up by this addition. Hope this helps and that some of the true Experts on this Site, who give so generously of their expertise to us seekers, will have the time to share their more valued knowledge. Look up my Site (which is in the process of up-dating) and let me know if I can help. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS Hi friends, I have posted this once before, and got no response. Surely there is someone who will offer some information. What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. I will appreciate anyone's input. JOH
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
Hi Jim, there was a patent on CS and H2O2 and they quoted ppm of both. To get to the same ballpark I used a teaspoon , 5ml, of 6% h2o2, or 1 drop of 35% h202 per 250ml , cupful, of homemade cs , about 5ppm. That is about what I use. Tony On 18 Nov 2004 at 9:24, Jim Holmes wrote: Hi friends, I have posted this once before, and got no response. Surely there is someone who will offer some information. What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. I will appreciate anyones input. JOH -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeeking advice re: addition of Hydrogen Peroxide to CS
What ratio of H2O2 to CS do you recommend? 1 DROP 3% h2O2 IN 2 OZ. OF cs. LET SIT ABOUT 15 MINUTES. iT MAY GET DARKER, BUT SHOULD CLEAR UP AGAIN IN 15 MINUTES What are the consequences of more or less H2O2? THE TASTE AND OVERKILL. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS Does it matter how soon after generation of the Colloid/ionic mix that the addition is made? NO Can there be any interaction between the CS that has had the Peroxide added and DMSO added later. NO
