Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-10-01 Thread Ode Coyote



 100% of those who underwent gastric bypass surgery were no longer 
diabetic in a day or so.
..there's something about the upper part of the stomach.[PH detection 
maybe?  ...really wild guess.]


Ode

At 09:58 AM 9/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:
I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. 
Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as 
is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium 
chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my 
dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed 
it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.


doug



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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-10-01 Thread Ode Coyote



  Where all that stuff goes to first is extrmely acidics.
 Like all that about corn sweeteners...no matter what sort of sugar, it 
ALL turns into Glucose.


Ode


At 01:43 PM 9/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Steve,

Sorry to break in here. But due to our Western diet most of us lean toward 
the acidic side of the scale anyway. Coffee, tea, soft drinks, 
medications, excessive protein and sugar in the diet, pollution, and 
probably a few others y'all could point out. The body uses calcium to 
buffer acid, and a good portion of people in the US don't get the RDA of 
calcium, much less more than the RDA. Bones and teeth suffer as a result. 
I don't remember the numbers, but it takes so much water and or calcium to 
buffer just one soft drink. I'm not an expert in chemistry mind you and I 
could be wrong, but that's what I understand from my own digging around on 
the subject.


Annie



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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-10-01 Thread Day Sutton
Are you sure it didn't have something to do with not being hungry, and
therefore not eating as much; especially sugar...

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



  100% of those who underwent gastric bypass surgery were no longer diabetic
 in a day or so.
 ..there's something about the upper part of the stomach.[PH detection
 maybe?  ...really wild guess.]

 Ode

 At 09:58 AM 9/30/2009 -0500, you wrote:

 I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
 Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is
 the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium
 chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my
 dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it
 with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.

 doug



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CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some 
interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete 
descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I 
was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 
he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium 
chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, 
so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before converting 
drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works out 
to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would 
end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a 
huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a 
day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day 
without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that the 
lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount recommended 
would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill 
them at worst.


So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it 
anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There he 
says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. 
Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation 
produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.  
Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that 
something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but 
others may not be so fortunate.


But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly 
alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which 
then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this improve 
your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.


Marshall


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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread polo
I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk 
about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the 
book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite 
for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that 
seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with 
sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.


doug


- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics



I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some
interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete
descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I
was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68
he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium
chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid,
so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before converting
drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works out
to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would
end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a
huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a
day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day
without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that the
lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount recommended
would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill
them at worst.

So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it
anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There he
says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution.
Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation
produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that
something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but
others may not be so fortunate.

But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly
alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which
then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this improve
your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.

Marshall



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RE: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Norton, Steve
Marshall,
The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except
where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just
upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an
excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested.
Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that
depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the
intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH
along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH
regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. 
You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is
because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or
alkaline substances and controlling blood pH.

That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by
gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to
treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based
as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of
sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was
with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have
reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.

doug


- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics


I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some
 interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or
incomplete
 descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I
 was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page
68
 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium
 chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a
liquid,
 so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before
converting
 drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works
out
 to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would
 end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was
a
 huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a
 day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day
 without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that the
 lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount
recommended
 would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill
 them at worst.

 So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about
it
 anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There
he
 says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite
solution.
 Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation
 produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
 Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that
 something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but
 others may not be so fortunate.

 But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly
 alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach,
which
 then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this
improve
 your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.

 Marshall


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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
Although the pH aspect of it made no sense to me, what you say does make 
good sense.  I think I will give it a try.  Hmm, I guess 15 drops of 2% 
would be equivalent to about 1 drop of 28% MMS, which I have on hand.


Marshall

polo wrote:
I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. 
Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based 
as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of 
sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS 
was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to 
have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.


doug




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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very 
narrow range.  It really never gets out of range, the problem is the 
problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH.  It strips 
calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys 
expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away 
into fat.  The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body 
storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat.  That if 
the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead.  
Interesting theory at any rate.


Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:

Marshall,
The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except
where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just
upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an
excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested.
Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that
depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the
intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH
along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH
regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. 
You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is

because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or
alkaline substances and controlling blood pH.

That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by
gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to
treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based
as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of
sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was
with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have
reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.

doug


- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics


  

I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some
interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or


incomplete
  

descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I
was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page


68
  

he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium
chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a


liquid,
  

so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before


converting
  

drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works


out
  

to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would
end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was


a
  

huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a
day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day
without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that the
lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount


recommended
  

would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill
them at worst.

So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about


it
  

anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There


he
  

says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite


solution.
  

Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation
produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that
something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but
others may not be so fortunate.

But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly
alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach,


which
  

then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this


improve
  

your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.

Marshall




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RE: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Norton, Steve
That is interesting. Thanks.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very
narrow range.  It really never gets out of range, the problem is the
problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH.  It strips
calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys
expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away
into fat.  The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body
storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat.  That if
the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead.  
Interesting theory at any rate.

Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:
 Marshall,
 The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding 
 except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream 
 just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does 
 an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is
ingested.
 Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that 
 depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the 
 intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH 
 along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH 
 regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested.
 You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is 
 because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic 
 or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH.

 That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by 
 gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to

 treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have.
  - Steve N

 -Original Message-
 From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

 I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
 Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based

 as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of 
 sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS 
 was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to

 have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and
elated.

 doug


 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
 Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics


   
 I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some 
 interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or
 
 incomplete
   
 descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I

 was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page
 
 68
   
 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium 
 chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a
 
 liquid,
   
 so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before
 
 converting
   
 drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works
 
 out
   
 to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would

 end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that 
 was
 
 a
   
 huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a

 day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day 
 without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that 
 the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount
 
 recommended
   
 would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill

 them at worst.

 So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about
 
 it
   
 anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There
 
 he
   
 says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite
 
 solution.
   
 Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation 
 produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
 Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize 
 that something was wrong with the first place he gives the 
 information, but others may not be so fortunate.

 But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly 
 alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach,
 
 which
   
 then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this
 
 improve
   
 your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.

 Marshall
 


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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Annie B Smythe

Hi Steve,

Sorry to break in here. But due to our Western diet most of us lean 
toward the acidic side of the scale anyway. Coffee, tea, soft drinks, 
medications, excessive protein and sugar in the diet, pollution, and 
probably a few others y'all could point out. The body uses calcium to 
buffer acid, and a good portion of people in the US don't get the RDA of 
calcium, much less more than the RDA. Bones and teeth suffer as a 
result. I don't remember the numbers, but it takes so much water and or 
calcium to buffer just one soft drink. I'm not an expert in chemistry 
mind you and I could be wrong, but that's what I understand from my own 
digging around on the subject.


Annie

Norton, Steve wrote:

Marshall,
The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except
where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just
upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an
excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested.
Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that
depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the
intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH
along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH
regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. 
You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is

because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or
alkaline substances and controlling blood pH.

That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by
gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to
treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based
as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of
sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was
with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have
reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated.

doug


- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics



I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some
interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or

incomplete

descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I
was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page

68

he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium
chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a

liquid,

so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before

converting

drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works

out

to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would
end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was

a

huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a
day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day
without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that the
lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount

recommended

would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill
them at worst.

So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about

it

anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There

he

says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite

solution.

Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation
produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that
something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but
others may not be so fortunate.

But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly
alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach,

which

then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually.  So how does this

improve

your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt.

Marshall



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Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

2009-09-30 Thread Smitty
There are some testimonials here for those interested =
http://tinyurl.com/ydkxqv5

Smitty

###

On 9/30/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
 That is interesting. Thanks.
   - Steve N


  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics

  You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very
  narrow range.  It really never gets out of range, the problem is the
  problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH.  It strips
  calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys
  expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away
  into fat.  The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body
  storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat.  That if
  the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead.
  Interesting theory at any rate.

  Marshall

  Norton, Steve wrote:
   Marshall,
   The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding
   except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream
   just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does
   an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is
  ingested.
   Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that
   depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the
   intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH
   along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH
   regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested.
   You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is
   because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic
   or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH.
  
   That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by
   gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to

   treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have.
- Steve N
  
   -Original Message-
   From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
  
   I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann.
   Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based

   as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of
   sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS
   was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to

   have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and
  elated.
  
   doug
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM
   Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
  
  
  
   I ordered this book and it came yesterday.  It does have some
   interesting ideas.  However I am put off by his inaccurate or
  
   incomplete
  
   descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do.  For instance, I

   was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page
  
   68
  
   he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium
   chlorite...  Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a
  
   liquid,
  
   so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it.  So before
  
   converting
  
   drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first.  That works
  
   out
  
   to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would

   end up being 4 grams.  Having had experience with MMS, I knew that
   was
  
   a
  
   huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a

   day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day
   without digestive problems.  So I checked the msds, and found that
   the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount.  The amount
  
   recommended
  
   would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill

   them at worst.
  
   So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about
  
   it
  
   anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88   There
  
   he
  
   says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite
  
   solution.
  
   Ahh, now he has it right.  The first place I read his recommendation
   produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting.
   Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize
   that something was wrong with the first place he gives the
   information, but others may not be so fortunate.
  
   But now I am puzzled.  Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly
   alkaline.  But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach,
  
   which
  
   then breaks down into NaCl and O2