CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-06 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi folks,

I've started getting more complaints about this lately...

 ... I too get many of the incoming Silver-Digest's that can not be
 read because of a dark purple or black background. I did not think
 it is done purposely, but somehow in the transmission it turns
 dark. 
...
  I am having a really hard time reading messages with:
  a) black backgrounds
  b) type in colors other than black
  c) all capital letters.

The issue is Microsoft and others who have tried to introduce 
pretty features into e-mail including semi-proprietary rich text 
formats, html, graphics, etcetera, and various programs having 
problems parsing them, especially in complex digest-type messages.

You can, and should, set your e-mail program to send only plain 
text to mail-lists and newsgroups. 

In Outlook Express, for example, go to ToolsOptionsSend, and check
Plain Text under Mail Sending Format and News Sending Format, then
click OK.

The sad fact is that we will *never* get everybody to comply 
with a general request or rule to omit such formatting.

The best defense is to find whatever controls are available in your 
e-mail software for turning *off* HTML and rich-text features for 
incoming mail. However, I can't *find* such an option on Microsoft 
Outlook Express, so it is obviously not a universal feature.

Other options are various free or shareware utilities for removing 
html tags and other formatting from e-mail. I've heard of them but 
don't use any, so you're on your own... Or you can use a text-only 
mail reader, as I do.

Barring that, I would be forced to do some fancy programming at the 
level of the list server (that I do not yet know how to do) to either 
filter or *reject* messages with such formatting.

In the meantime, a *polite* request to the person who seems to be 
causing you the difficulty might give you the chance to help them 
learn how to turn off the offending features.

Just remember that for too darn many folks being on the net at all 
is a major accomplishment, and the technical details are not yet 
within their grasp. So be polite and helpful, please.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-06 Thread Fred

I complained to Mike that the problem was Realwarts posts
(my digest copy turned light blue after his posts and had many
extra line feeds, etc.) but he apparently went off list yesterday
and the problem has not returned! Something about his webtv
setup I am sure. Have you also had the dark problem stop?

f...@health2us.com
---
Hi folks,

I've started getting more complaints about this lately...

 ... I too get many of the incoming Silver-Digest's that can not be
 read because of a dark purple or black background. I did not think
 it is done purposely, but somehow in the transmission it turns
 dark. 



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CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread Nina Silver, Ph.D.
Dear People,
I am having a really hard time reading messages with:
a) black backgrounds
b) type in colors other than black 
c) all capital letters.

I delete such messages because my eyes can't handle them.
If you want me to read your messages, please make them legible.

Thanks.
Nina


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Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread MAMA2BEAR
Nina, I agree.  Print is meant to be read.  The most readable print is dark 
on light.


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Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread James Allison
I agree.  Dark on light.  And maybe a bigger font too, just to make things 
easy.  :)

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- Original Message - 
From: mama2b...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages


 Nina, I agree.  Print is meant to be read.  The most readable print is dark 
 on light.
 
 
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Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread boberger
Hi Nina,

I AGEE 100 %. Also please stop using type smaller that 10 point.

OLD Ole BOB

Nina Silver, Ph.D. wrote:

 Dear People,
 I am having a really hard time reading messages with:
 a) black backgrounds
 b) type in colors other than black
 c) all capital letters.

 I delete such messages because my eyes can't handle them.
 If you want me to read your messages, please make them legible.

 Thanks.
 Nina

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Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread KiasiBehr
In a message dated 06/05/2000 12:51:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
n...@bestweb.net writes:

 Dear People,
 I am having a really hard time reading messages with:
 a) black backgrounds
 b) type in colors other than black 
 c) all capital letters.
 
 I delete such messages because my eyes can't handle them.
 If you want me to read your messages, please make them legible. 

Along these same linesit would be sooo helpful for us to copy  paste 
JUST (the few lines) that we are referring to in our reply post..not the 
entire post!  The lines below are posted on another list and really say it 
all... 


*** NOTE: PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THE WHOLE POSTING, BUT
*** CUT/PASTE ONLY THOSE POSTING YOU REALLY REPLY TO.

Several of you are allowing the whole post...including the headers to be 
attached in your new post!
Then if I wish to save to files I'm not taking up a huge amount of space. 
And I do save quite a few for future referral. Many thanks!

love and peace
Kiasi


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CSRe: Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread MzOzz2
Hello Nina Silver,
Hey very nice name for this list!
Anyway... may I add that I too get many of the incoming Silver-Digest's 
that can not be read because of a dark purple or black background. I did not 
think it is done purposely, but somehow in the transmission it turns dark. It 
was not happening for months and now the last few sendings are coming over 
that way again. I did not know others were also receiving their editions this 
way too.
I can still read them though by highlighting the whole form and then 
hitting copy (I do this while not being able to even see what is 
highlighted), then I pull up a new email form, hit paste and it comes on 
the new form with black type on a white background. After I read it I hit 
delete.
As for the caps, I think that is being done to aid someone with poor 
vision.
Hope that helps.
Love, Kathy 
In a message dated 6*5*00 10:36:57 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
writes:

 Nina Silver, Ph.D. wrote:

 Dear People,
 I am having a really hard time reading messages with:
 a) black backgrounds
 b) type in colors other than black
 c) all capital letters.

 I delete such messages because my eyes can't handle them.
 If you want me to read your messages, please make them legible.

 Thanks.
 Nina

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Re: CSRe: Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread Nina Silver, Ph.D.

- Original Message -
From: mzo...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 7:18 PM
Subject: CSRe: Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages


 I can still read them though by highlighting the whole form and then
 hitting copy (I do this while not being able to even see what is
 highlighted), then I pull up a new email form, hit paste and it comes on
 the new form with black type on a white background. After I read it I hit
 delete.
 As for the caps, I think that is being done to aid someone with poor
 vision.

Kathy,
Thanks for the tip. However, since I spend too much time at the computer
already, I don't have the patience or time to copy and paste. I am hoping
the people who send messages like that will be willing to rectify the
situation -- otherwise, my automatic delete function will take over.

For my eyes, the capital letters don't help, they make seeing the message
worse. Why not simply graduate to larger type?

Perhaps the list manager can suggest ways in which we all can do this -- but
not TOO much larger.

Nina


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Re: CSRe: Re: CScolored type and backgrounds in messages

2000-06-05 Thread d.linen


Nina Silver, Ph.D. wrote:

 Kathy,
 Thanks for the tip. However, since I spend too much time at the computer
 already, I don't have the patience or time to copy and paste. I am hoping
 the people who send messages like that will be willing to rectify the
 situation -- otherwise, my automatic delete function will take over.
 
 For my eyes, the capital letters don't help, they make seeing the message
 worse. Why not simply graduate to larger type?

I have one suggestion for a person who has vision problems or needs
larger fonts to see well. It probably depends upon whether one has
Windows or not but Win95/98 has a capability for those with a disability
to increase the size of portions of the screen.

Diane


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