Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
A few hundred parts per billion 'in the water' will do it. The time it takes is the major difference. A tablespoon of 10 PPM silver in a gallon and overnight should be plenty safe. Overkill never hurts. Ode At 09:46 AM 8/3/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline Perhaps someone with more time and a better facility with numbers that I have could convert the ppm of silver for purifying water from the last post (THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER) and state it in practical units. Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
Look at http://www.floatron.com/ It's been around since the 80s with a price 'decrease'. The electrode is probably mostly copper?? Ode A few hundred parts per billion 'in the water' will do it. The time it takes is the major difference. A tablespoon of 10 PPM silver in a gallon and overnight should be plenty safe. Overkill never hurts. Ode At 09:46 AM 8/3/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline Perhaps someone with more time and a better facility with numbers that I have could convert the ppm of silver for purifying water from the last post (THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER) and state it in practical units. Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1 - Release Date: 8/4/2005
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
I'll bet you could use a regular jewelry grade silver (Stirling?) and the amount of copper in it would give a quantity of Colloidal Copper to complement the Colloidal Silver... Any idea of the voltage or current involved in this device? It looks like quite a vigorous reaction in the picture. Although, I suppose a low voltage would work quite well since there are a lot of ions in the swimming pool water. Do you think one would need current limiting in a device like this? Dan Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency From: Ode Coyote (view other messages by this author) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 05:36:21 Look at http://www.floatron.com/ It's been around since the 80s with a price 'decrease'. The electrode is probably mostly copper?? Ode A few hundred parts per billion 'in the water' will do it. The time it takes is the major difference. A tablespoon of 10 PPM silver in a gallon and overnight should be plenty safe. Overkill never hurts. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
- Original Message - From: rose To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency hi list...just found out we will have to have another well drilled and will be without water for 2 weeks...the fun never stops. the water we are hauling is from a local spring where everyone hauls water. the fellow there tonight said to treat for ecoli. i searched the archives but cannot come up with the info i need...the animal beings are very thirsty and am hoping for a quick answer on how much per gallon to treat. we have one of ode's generators...the ole bob that is modified to make a gallon. any help most appreciated... a rose... == Hi Rose. I'm not sure about this, which is why I didn't chime in sooner -- but since no one has replied to you yet, I seem to remember 1 tablespoon per gallon. If that isn't right, I hope someone will correct me quickly. Liquid iodine is also an excellent water purifier. Best wishes, Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
http://www.doulton.ca/vol3-5_1may73.html THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER VOLUME III, Number 5, May 1973 SILVER CLEARS UP POLLUTED WATER Russian scientists working on water recycling and purification problems for the Soviet space ship and orbiting station program have decided on silver as the best long-term sanitizing agent. Researching the problems of water storage over periods of several months, as well as purification for immediate use, they determined that ionized silver provides the safest and longest lasting method of transtbrmiug polluted waste into potable water. A significant fact in support of their decision to use silver tbr purification was their experimental confirmation of the absence of toxicity in the silver treated water. In lengthy experiments on animals they found that 100 parts and 200 parts of silver per billion in drink-ing water does not accmnulate in the organism and does not produce any detrimental effect on the functioning of the organs or systems of the experimental animals. This was also confirmed by year long experiments on volunteer human subjects. The concentration of silver used in these tests . . . 100 parts and 200 parts per billion . . . is in striking comparison with the 10 to 50 parts per billion of silver found in potable water and in swimming pools treated by silver purification systems in the United States. The scientists, Drs.. S. V. Chizhov. S. P. Pak, N. N. Sitnikova and Y. U. Koloskova. tried many methods of purifying regenerated water but all except the silver system proved unsatisfactory over the long run. Ultra-violet rays and ultra-high-frequency sound reduced micro-organisms by as much as 97% but water thus treated failed to meet standards of acceptibility if the water were stored for any considerable period of time. Chlorine, which is widely used to kill bacteria, requires dosages in thousands of parts per billion compared to the 100 ppb and 200 ppb used in the Russian tests; the chlorine itself is a pollntant fbr certain water uses and it often is dangerous to store or handle. In sum, the Russians found silver to be the safest sterilizing agent, stable, and long-lasting. The research also showed that decontaminated water may change in reaction to its container. They concluded that polyethylene containers are suitable for the short-term storage of silver-ionized water. For long-term storage of a few months or more, they decided it is better to use a vessel made of polymers of the fluorine plastic group, or metal containers of vitreous enameled aluninum alloy (for lightness in a space ship). Included among the many experiments conducted by Dr. Chizhov and his associates were those designed to assay the purification of water condensed from the atmosphere inside a simulated space vehicle. The quantity of microorganisms in the regenerated water before the introduction of the ionized silver varied from 200 to 1,900 microbiological parts per milliliter. Tests of the water made 15 to 20 minutes after contact with the ionized silver showed in most cases that in this 15 to 20 minute period, full sterilization had occurred. In a few cases, complete purity was achieved only after 30 to 40 minutes of exposure. Study of controlled samples of the water after 24 to 72 hours showed the continned and complete absence of microorganisms. The Russians also suggested that the regeneration of water from the byproducts of human activity seems feasible through the use of silver ions as the decontamination agent. In this application they found it desirable to introduce silver ions into the water with the aid of various filtering materials in order to provide the slow dissolving of the silver. Designing the filter and selecting the form in which silver is introduced will allow engineers to establish any desired concentration of silver ions in a given volume of water, they believe. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
Perhaps someone with more time and a better facility with numbers that I have could convert the ppm of silver for purifying water from the last post (THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER) and state it in practical units. Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
thank you all for your valuable contributions. we settled on one tablespoon per gallon and wait at least 30 min but more towards an hour...just cause we are moving so slow in this heat *grin*. once again i am so profoundly grateful for our silver, our generator from ode that time and time again makes wonderful silver even tho we have the older prototype for a gallon that he designed for us...knowing he has made many improvements since then but ours is like a timex...takes a lickin and keeps on tickin. drill a new well...arg and hooray. our well has never been the same since they blasted a mile long tunnel three miles from here (for a new bypass) several years ago. when it rains heavy our water is almost mud...and increasingly more of a sulfur smell. hopefully with the new well we will have water improvement quality. in the process of reading about wells last night learned much valuable info on collecting ground water...for the eventual time when electricity may be absent. there are more ways to collect it than on the roof...so an exploration in progress. now to check out the first well driller coming in a few...and already i don't like him...as he is pushing for a well 200 feet more than we need...the good ole boy sales pitch. boy will he be surprised when he comes and all that i have learned terms wise...gotta love the info highway of the internet. this evening the other fellow will call and these brothers come the most highly recommended and only 50 cents more a foot. from what i hear they don't push to over drill and are very lovely to work with. keeping fingers crossed. i just have a real aversion for the slick good ole boys...as i have dealt with them many times over the years...they play on your ignorance. again, thank you everyone...on both silver list...which i will cross post this to the other list also. a rose...
RE: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
Hi Dan, Thank you for sharing this very informative Silver info! Thank you also, for the many other times you have contributed to us seekers! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency http://www.doulton.ca/vol3-5_1may73.html THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER VOLUME III, Number 5, May 1973 SILVER CLEARS UP POLLUTED WATER Russian scientists working on water recycling and purification problems for the Soviet space ship and orbiting station program have decided on silver as the best long-term sanitizing agent. Researching the problems of water storage over periods of several months, as well as purification for immediate use, they determined that ionized silver provides the safest and longest lasting method of transtbrmiug polluted waste into potable water. A significant fact in support of their decision to use silver tbr purification was their experimental confirmation of the absence of toxicity in the silver treated water. In lengthy experiments on animals they found that 100 parts and 200 parts of silver per billion in drink-ing water does not accmnulate in the organism and does not produce any detrimental effect on the functioning of the organs or systems of the experimental animals. This was also confirmed by year long experiments on volunteer human subjects. The concentration of silver used in these tests . . . 100 parts and 200 parts per billion . . . is in striking comparison with the 10 to 50 parts per billion of silver found in potable water and in swimming pools treated by silver purification systems in the United States. The scientists, Drs.. S. V. Chizhov. S. P. Pak, N. N. Sitnikova and Y. U. Koloskova. tried many methods of purifying regenerated water but all except the silver system proved unsatisfactory over the long run. Ultra-violet rays and ultra-high-frequency sound reduced micro-organisms by as much as 97% but water thus treated failed to meet standards of acceptibility if the water were stored for any considerable period of time. Chlorine, which is widely used to kill bacteria, requires dosages in thousands of parts per billion compared to the 100 ppb and 200 ppb used in the Russian tests; the chlorine itself is a pollntant fbr certain water uses and it often is dangerous to store or handle. In sum, the Russians found silver to be the safest sterilizing agent, stable, and long-lasting. The research also showed that decontaminated water may change in reaction to its container. They concluded that polyethylene containers are suitable for the short-term storage of silver-ionized water. For long-term storage of a few months or more, they decided it is better to use a vessel made of polymers of the fluorine plastic group, or metal containers of vitreous enameled aluninum alloy (for lightness in a space ship). Included among the many experiments conducted by Dr. Chizhov and his associates were those designed to assay the purification of water condensed from the atmosphere inside a simulated space vehicle. The quantity of microorganisms in the regenerated water before the introduction of the ionized silver varied from 200 to 1,900 microbiological parts per milliliter. Tests of the water made 15 to 20 minutes after contact with the ionized silver showed in most cases that in this 15 to 20 minute period, full sterilization had occurred. In a few cases, complete purity was achieved only after 30 to 40 minutes of exposure. Study of controlled samples of the water after 24 to 72 hours showed the continned and complete absence of microorganisms. The Russians also suggested that the regeneration of water from the byproducts of human activity seems feasible through the use of silver ions as the decontamination agent. In this application they found it desirable to introduce silver ions into the water with the aid of various filtering materials in order to provide the slow dissolving of the silver. Designing the filter and selecting the form in which silver is introduced will allow engineers to establish any desired concentration of silver ions in a given volume of water, they believe. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSecoli water treatment sorta emergency
hi list...just found out we will have to have another well drilled and will be without water for 2 weeks...the fun never stops. the water we are hauling is from a local spring where everyone hauls water. the fellow there tonight said to treat for ecoli. i searched the archives but cannot come up with the info i need...the animal beings are very thirsty and am hoping for a quick answer on how much per gallon to treat. we have one of ode's generators...the ole bob that is modified to make a gallon. any help most appreciated... a rose...
