Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-20 Thread Ode Coyote



  Lasers are now being used to permanently delete hair by cooking the 
follicle. [works best on dark hair as dark absorbs the light and generates 
more heat]

 That'll thin it, all right.

After killing the follicle you should put all the fallen hair in a vault do 
you don't have to live with unwanted hair loss any longer.


Ode



At 11:50 AM 5/19/2010 -0400, you wrote:

http://www.syrolight.com/productshttp://www.syrolight.com/products
More high powered laser devices for thinning hair and joint therapy

g




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CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi all, can anyone tell me if the protocol for using a laser pen and DMSO on an 
arthritic joint.necessitates holding the laser directly onto the skin where 
the DMSO has been applied?  Thanks.  dee

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RE: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Norton, Steve
Here is Brooks Bradley's post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg131078.html

Additionally, applying the 
beam of a simple laser pointer (Red color) directly upon the afflicted 
joint and moving very slowly across the area of 
concentrated pain (takes about 2 minutes for the top of a finger-
joint), has, in a majority of casesfurnished 
quite high-speed pain abatement. Used in tandem (DMSO applied first, 
followed by Laser or High-intensity LED) these simple addresses have 
easily surpassed all but use of POWERFUL TOPICAL ANAESTHETIC AGENTS 
(such as novocaine, lidocaine, procaine, etc.) in achieving immediate 
pain relief. Additionally, the beneficial effects of these non-
intrusive protocols.rendered much longer-lasting benefits---before 
any form of pain presentation reappeared, 
than did the conventional topical anaesthetic agents.

 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSlaser pen and arthritis

Hi all, can anyone tell me if the protocol for using a laser pen and
DMSO on an arthritic joint.necessitates holding the laser directly
onto the skin where the DMSO has been applied?  Thanks.  dee


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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Garrick
I find it hard to believe one laser pen will do much. An array of laser
pens...10 bundled together might make a dent and maybe heal it?

g



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.comwrote:

 Here is Brooks Bradley's post:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg131078.html

 Additionally, applying the
 beam of a simple laser pointer (Red color) directly upon the afflicted
 joint and moving very slowly across the area of
 concentrated pain (takes about 2 minutes for the top of a finger-
 joint), has, in a majority of casesfurnished
 quite high-speed pain abatement. Used in tandem (DMSO applied first,
 followed by Laser or High-intensity LED) these simple addresses have
 easily surpassed all but use of POWERFUL TOPICAL ANAESTHETIC AGENTS
 (such as novocaine, lidocaine, procaine, etc.) in achieving immediate
 pain relief. Additionally, the beneficial effects of these non-
 intrusive protocols.rendered much longer-lasting benefits---before
 any form of pain presentation reappeared,
 than did the conventional topical anaesthetic agents.

  - Steve N

 -Original Message-
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:09 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSlaser pen and arthritis

 Hi all, can anyone tell me if the protocol for using a laser pen and
 DMSO on an arthritic joint.necessitates holding the laser directly
 onto the skin where the DMSO has been applied?  Thanks.  dee







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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Garrick
http://www.syrolight.com/products
More high powered laser devices for thinning hair and joint therapy

g




On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 Hi all, can anyone tell me if the protocol for using a laser pen and DMSO
 on an arthritic joint.necessitates holding the laser directly onto the
 skin where the DMSO has been applied?  Thanks.  dee

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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thank you Steve.  dee

On 19 May 2010, at 16:08, Norton, Steve wrote:

 Here is Brooks Bradley's post:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg131078.html
 
 Additionally, applying the 
 beam of a simple laser pointer (Red color) directly upon the afflicted 
 joint and moving very slowly across the area of 
 concentrated pain (takes about 2 minutes for the top of a finger-
 joint), has, in a majority of casesfurnished 
 quite high-speed pain abatement. Used in tandem (DMSO applied first, 
 followed by Laser or High-intensity LED) these simple addresses have 
 easily surpassed all but use of POWERFUL TOPICAL ANAESTHETIC AGENTS 
 (such as novocaine, lidocaine, procaine, etc.) in achieving immediate 
 pain relief. Additionally, the beneficial effects of these non-
 intrusive protocols.rendered much longer-lasting benefits---before 
 any form of pain presentation reappeared, 
 than did the conventional topical anaesthetic agents.
 
 - Steve N
 
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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thank you g, but they are rather pricey for me and the laser pen and DMSO seems 
to work for hubby--at least for a while he gets relief.  dee

On 19 May 2010, at 16:50, Garrick wrote:

 http://www.syrolight.com/products
 More high powered laser devices for thinning hair and joint therapy
 
 g
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It actually does.  dee

On 19 May 2010, at 16:38, Garrick wrote:

 I find it hard to believe one laser pen will do much. An array of laser 
 pens...10 bundled together might make a dent and maybe heal it?
 
 g
 
 
 


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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Garrick
http://www.themedicalarena.com/BioBeam-940-P63.aspx has 12 or so lasers
that drill in deep enough to hit joint pains. They have a 660 (cheaper on
ebay) that is the right laser nanometer for hair and scalp...thinning hait

$75 ...I might get one and use with
DMSOhttp://www.themedicalarena.com/BioBeam-940-P63.aspx.
DMSO+ laser is a great idea!

Thanks
Garrick



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 Thank you g, but they are rather pricey for me and the laser pen and DMSO
 seems to work for hubby--at least for a while he gets relief.  dee

 On 19 May 2010, at 16:50, Garrick wrote:

  http://www.syrolight.com/products
  More high powered laser devices for thinning hair and joint therapy
 
  g
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Pat
I tried the DMSO and laser on my joint where the hand meets the wrist at the 
thumb (have some bony abnormalities there.)  I held the laser a couple inches 
away.  It was very bright and I was wondering if I should wear protective eye 
covering or not.  It seemed to sting a little.  Should I hold the laser right 
up against the skin?  Having some kind of problem on that whole underside of 
the wrist, sensitive skin and pain inside on lateral side right where the hand 
joins the wrist.  I've tried to make sure I'm not using the computer 
differently ...keeping hand and arm aligned, etc.  I've used plain DMSO on it a 
couple times, but can't really tell if it helps.

Pat




- Original Message 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 1:31:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

Thank you Steve.  dee

On 19 May 2010, at 16:08, Norton, Steve wrote:

 Here is Brooks Bradley's post:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg131078.html
 
 Additionally, applying the 
 beam of a simple laser pointer (Red color) directly upon the afflicted 
 joint and moving very slowly across the area of 
 concentrated pain (takes about 2 minutes for the top of a finger-
 joint), has, in a majority of casesfurnished 
 quite high-speed pain abatement. Used in tandem (DMSO applied first, 
 followed by Laser or High-intensity LED) these simple addresses have 
 easily surpassed all but use of POWERFUL TOPICAL ANAESTHETIC AGENTS 
 (such as novocaine, lidocaine, procaine, etc.) in achieving immediate 
 pain relief. Additionally, the beneficial effects of these non-
 intrusive protocols.rendered much longer-lasting benefits---before 
 any form of pain presentation reappeared, 
 than did the conventional topical anaesthetic agents.
 
 - Steve N
 
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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread cking001
Looks like an LED device to me, not laser.
Where are the specs?

Chuck
Is the surface of a planet the right place for a developing
technological civilization? 


On 5/19/2010 1:56:07 PM, Garrick (zzen...@gmail.com) wrote:
 http://www.themedicalarena.com/BioBeam-940-P63.aspx has 12 or so
 lasers that drill in deep enough to hit joint pains. They have a 660
 (cheaper on ebay) that is the right laser nanometer for hair and scalp...
 thinning hait
 
 $75 ...I might get one and use with DMSO [link: www.themedicalarena.
 com/BioBeam-940-P63.aspx]. DMSO+ laser is a great idea!
 
 Thanks
 Garrick
 
 
 
 On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 [link: mailto:d...@deetroy.org] wrote:
 Thank you g, but they are rather pricey for me and the laser pen and DMSO
 seems to work for hubby--at least for a while he gets relief.  dee
 
 On 19 May 2010, at 16:50, Garrick wrote:
 
  http://www.syrolight.com/products
  More high powered laser devices for thinning hair and joint therapy
 


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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Del
I had a similar problem on the underside of wrist and realized I was 
flirting with carpal tunnel syndrome.

Does it hurt to put pressure on your fingers?
I cured it with DMSO (70%) over which I put a generous layer of Topricin 
Cream.

Did this at least two, three times a day.
Highly recommend the Topricin with DMSO.
Topricin is designed for carpal tunnel and stops the DMSO from itching.
Also cured tennis elbow (bad case!) that same way.
Don't know much about the laser treatment, I'm interested in learning about 
that myself.


Del

- Original Message - 
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis


I tried the DMSO and laser on my joint where the hand meets the wrist at 
the thumb (have some bony abnormalities there.)  I held the laser a couple 
inches away.  It was very bright and I was wondering if I should wear 
protective eye covering or not.  It seemed to sting a little.  Should I 
hold the laser right up against the skin?  Having some kind of problem on 
that whole underside of the wrist, sensitive skin and pain inside on 
lateral side right where the hand joins the wrist.  I've tried to make sure 
I'm not using the computer differently ...keeping hand and arm aligned, 
etc.  I've used plain DMSO on it a couple times, but can't really tell if 
it helps.


Pat






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Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

2010-05-19 Thread Pat
I hadn't heard of Topricin, but will get some soon, thanks.  My fingers don't 
hurt now, but a couple months ago I noticed numbness at the very tips of two or 
three of them.  That's gone now, but all this other has developed.  

When I use DMSO, maybe a 3 by 4 area below the knee, the next day I have a 
slight dull headache.  I've noticed that a few times.  I used 60% or now my new 
70% straight.  I clean the area with colloidal silver, then pat the DMSO on.  
Anybody else have DMSO headaches?

Pat




- Original Message 
From: Del d...@altsystem.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 8:33:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis

I had a similar problem on the underside of wrist and realized I was flirting 
with carpal tunnel syndrome.
Does it hurt to put pressure on your fingers?
I cured it with DMSO (70%) over which I put a generous layer of Topricin Cream.
Did this at least two, three times a day.
Highly recommend the Topricin with DMSO.
Topricin is designed for carpal tunnel and stops the DMSO from itching.
Also cured tennis elbow (bad case!) that same way.
Don't know much about the laser treatment, I'm interested in learning about 
that myself.

Del

- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: CSlaser pen and arthritis


 I tried the DMSO and laser on my joint where the hand meets the wrist at the 
 thumb (have some bony abnormalities there.)  I held the laser a couple inches 
 away.  It was very bright and I was wondering if I should wear protective eye 
 covering or not.  It seemed to sting a little.  Should I hold the laser right 
 up against the skin?  Having some kind of problem on that whole underside of 
 the wrist, sensitive skin and pain inside on lateral side right where the 
 hand joins the wrist.  I've tried to make sure I'm not using the computer 
 differently ...keeping hand and arm aligned, etc.  I've used plain DMSO on it 
 a couple times, but can't really tell if it helps.
 
 Pat
 




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