Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-25 Thread Marshall

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On 3/24/2013 11:03 AM, JENNIFER BEASLEY wrote:

Please unsubscribe me from this list ...  many thanks everyone.




*From:* asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
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Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some 
fluoride
But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and 
speed RO wins every time for drinking purposes.





On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com 
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 finplan65 wrote:
 Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the 
chlorine but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?


 To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will 
remove fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse 
osmosis.

 Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 sol


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread sol

finplan65 wrote:
Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the 
chlorine but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?


To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.
sol


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread asif nathekar
Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some fluoride
But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and speed RO 
wins every time for drinking purposes.




On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 finplan65 wrote:
 Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
 but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?
 
 To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
 fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.
 Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 sol
 
 
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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread JENNIFER BEASLEY
Please unsubscribe me from this list ...  many thanks everyone.






 From: asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2013, 14:49
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro
 
Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some fluoride
But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and speed RO 
wins every time for drinking purposes.




On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 finplan65 wrote:
 Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
 but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?
 
 To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
 fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.
 Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 sol
 
 
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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread Joe Huard
That's partly true for drinking water, but you get much more fluoride 
through your skin while taking a bath or shower. So, there are whole 
house filters using alumina to get rid of fluoride. Kagi mentioned one 
that is very expensive, http://idealearthwater.com/whole-house-filter/ 
about 3 days ago.
http://www.friendsofwater.com/House_Filters.html this one is cheaper. 
There are more at 
https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#hl=ensugexp=eappswebgs_rn=7gs_ri=psy-abtok=gys7TgQGYuKapZjIEcQPrQcp=36gs_id=3yxhr=tq=whole+house+activated+alumina+filteres_nrs=truepf=psclient=psy-aboq=whole+house+activated+alumina+filtergs_l=pbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_qf.bvm=bv.44158598,d.Ymsfp=5792cdf058068fc9biw=1440bih=775


Joe H.
On 24/03/2013 10:49 AM, asif nathekar wrote:

Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some fluoride
But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and speed RO 
wins every time for drinking purposes.




On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:


finplan65 wrote:

Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?


To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
sol


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread RaVen
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistryhowtoguide/a/removefluoride.htm

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On Mar 24, 2013, at 8:45 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 finplan65 wrote:
 Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
 but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?
 To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
 fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.
 Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 sol
 
 
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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-24 Thread James McDonald
You need to put in a whole house filter, first a sediment filter, then a 5 
micron charcoal filter right after then to the whole house with R/O units at 
the kitchen sink. This way works very well and does not cost a fortune.





 From: asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro
 
Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some fluoride
But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and speed RO 
wins every time for drinking purposes.




On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 finplan65 wrote:
 Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
 but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?
 
 To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove 
 fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis.
 Someone correct me if I am wrong.
 sol
 
 
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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-22 Thread finplan65
Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine 
but also the flouride and other undesirable elements?





 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro
 

I'm going to stick a couple of silver electrodes through the plastic cap and 
run current through them at a slow rate, less than 1 ma per square inch.
Joe

On 21/03/2013 9:55 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 
I'm with you, Joe.  What do the glass jars do?
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 6:24:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

So PT, that leaves me to ask, what do you shower in? And the
part that doesn't smell but is much more dangerous is HFSA
under the pseudonym fluoride. I use a shower filter and
would use a whole house filter if it would get rid of
fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City of London
to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities
have done. Most recently, Windsor.
I bought a 1 litre glass jar today with a plastic lid for $2
at the Dollarama Store. They have 1500 ml glass jars for the
same price.

Joe H.


On 21/03/2013 4:21 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7
  times for purity.  I find once through my distiller
  makes fine EIS... but it is amazing the smell of the
  distiller after I am done.  I don't want to think
  about taking that stuff into my body or even showering
  in it.
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply
1630. It will help with current limiting, so no need
for a current limiting diode or IC. However, if I
ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate
that route. I assume from my rusty old electronics
memory that you mean a zener diode. Is that correct? 
1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods
surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good
cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know
what it is, but none of the sites that I was on
mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39
was good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used
to sell distillers since 1980, and I know distilled
water in a plastic jug is not pure as it leaches the
plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4
used distiller sitting around my basement doing
nothing. However, I will start with Reverse Osmosis
water put into a distiller, and that will be
identical.

Joe


On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.


Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use a 
current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar then 
all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the current to a 
maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but then it takes longer 
to brew. And remember a lower current will ensure smaller particles / more 
actual ions.
Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this. 
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and double 
distilled water. 
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double distilled 
water. 
This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.








Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Huard

Thanks PT.
When I wrote about the silver-colloids report of 32 brands, I wrote it 
wrong. The fifth place should have been written as fifth last, or 28th 
for the SG-7. The brand that was number one was Mesosilver. Do you think 
that Mesosilver owns silver-colloids.com? I need to do a lot more 
reading before I invest any money. I read a whole lot of info on the 
silvermedicine.org site. I found out that the current should be limited 
to under 40 mA (ideally 5-20mA). To achieve that I can use a regulated 
power supply and a digital meter. I also learned that stirring keeps the 
current down. I will probably build a homemade DC unit with a motor to 
stir with, unless I find even better plans for an AC unit.
I'm waiting on a new transformer to arrive in the mail so I can finish 
Carmi's heating pad idea. I also got one of those amplified lineman's 
pickup coils from Winnipeg, but made in China.


Bye for now,
Joe H.
On 20/03/2013 5:38 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
Hi Joe, PT here.  I joined this group a number of years ago and have 
enjoyed it from the beginning.  Everyone is helpful and willing to 
share.  I purchased a silverpuppy from Ode and have been very happy 
with it as all I need to do is plug it in and let it work.  When the 
CS/EIS is done it turns itself off.  If I want something stronger I 
can override.

Nice to see you on another forum.
PT


*From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
*Sent:* Wed, March 20, 2013 4:05:22 PM
*Subject:* CSnew member intro

Hi Group,
I just joined this list 2 days ago. I looked in the archives and saw 
many names that I recognized from some of the Yahoo groups I am in.
I would like to know how to make CS or EIS, whatever is better or 
cheaper or easier. I am not really flush with money, but I have 
enough. I read an article on Mercola's site that gave some other 
websites about CS. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html 
has a report on 32 brands of CS, with the home made brew only in fifth 
place, and that is with a $700 SG-7. I also saw a video on YouTube 
showing a 3 times 9 volt battery setup that appeared to work. There 
are big differences between those 2 devices.
I have access to distilled water as I have 4 older machines that I can 
get working. I use RO for my drinking water.
I also have a 30 volt 3amp regulated DC power supply. I read that 30 
volts was best, but 27 volts good enough. But, I also read that AC 
current is best. If AC current is best, what frequency is best and 
what is the correct current to make the smallest silver particles?
If DC is better, I can set the power supply to limit the current if I 
know what the limit should be.
I read that someone from this list considers 85% ionic silver and 15% 
colloidal silver optimal. Is this the consensus? Is 100% CS impossible 
to obtain, or undesirable due to cost or ineffectiveness?


Enough questions for now,

Joe H.


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread asif nathekar
Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.

Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use a current 
limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar then all you need 
is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the current to a maximum of 1ma per 
square inch, the less the better but then it takes longer to brew. And remember 
a lower current will ensure smaller particles / more actual ions.
Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this. 
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and double 
distilled water. 
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double distilled 
water. 
This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.



On 21 Mar 2013, at 13:28, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Thanks PT. 
 When I wrote about the silver-colloids report of 32 brands, I wrote it wrong. 
 The fifth place should have been written as fifth last, or 28th for the SG-7. 
 The brand that was number one was Mesosilver. Do you think that Mesosilver 
 owns silver-colloids.com? I need to do a lot more reading before I invest any 
 money. I read a whole lot of info on the silvermedicine.org site. I found out 
 that the current should be limited to under 40 mA (ideally 5-20mA). To 
 achieve that I can use a regulated power supply and a digital meter. I also 
 learned that stirring keeps the current down. I will probably build a 
 homemade DC unit with a motor to stir with, unless I find even better plans 
 for an AC unit.
 I'm waiting on a new transformer to arrive in the mail so I can finish 
 Carmi's heating pad idea. I also got one of those amplified lineman's pickup 
 coils from Winnipeg, but made in China.
 
 Bye for now,
 Joe H.
 On 20/03/2013 5:38 PM, PT Ferrance   wrote:
 Hi Joe, PT here.  I joined this group a number of years ago   and 
 have enjoyed it from the beginning.  Everyone is helpful and willing to 
 share.  I purchased a silverpuppy from Ode and have been very happy with it 
 as all I need to do is plug it in and let it work.  When the CS/EIS is done 
 it turns itself   off.  If I want something stronger I can override.
 Nice to see you on another forum.
 PT
 
 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
 Sent: Wed, March 20, 2013 4:05:22 PM
 Subject: CSnew member intro
 
 Hi Group,
 I just joined this list 2 days ago. I looked in the archives and 
 saw many names that I recognized from some of the Yahoo groups I am in.
 I would like to know how to make CS or EIS, whatever is better 
 or cheaper or easier. I am not really flush with money, but I have enough. I 
 read an article on Mercola's site that gave some other websites about CS. 
 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html has a report on 32 
 brands of CS, with the home made brew only in fifth place, and that is with 
 a $700 SG-7. I also saw a video on YouTube showing a 3 times 9 volt battery 
 setup that appeared to work. There are big differences between those 2 
 devices.
 I have access to distilled water as I have 4 older machines that I can get 
 working. I use RO for my drinking water.
 I also have a 30 volt 3amp regulated DC power supply. I read that 30 volts 
 was best, but 27 volts good enough. But, I also read that AC current is 
 best. If AC current is best, what frequency is best and what is the correct 
 current to make the smallest silver particles?
 If DC is better, I can set the power supply to limit the current if I know 
 what the limit should be.
 I read that someone from this list considers 85% ionic silver 
 and 15% colloidal silver optimal. Is this the consensus? Is 100% CS 
 impossible to obtain, or undesirable due to cost or ineffectiveness?
 
 Enough questions for now,
 
 Joe H.
 
 
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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Huard

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help 
with current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC. 
However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that 
route. I assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a 
zener diode. Is that correct?

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of 
the sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for 
$1.39 was good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell 
distillers since 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is 
not pure as it leaches the plastic. I could double distill my water as I 
have 4 used distiller sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, 
I will start with Reverse Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that 
will be identical.


Joe

On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.

Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use 
a current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a 
dollar then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep 
the current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better 
but then it takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will 
ensure smaller particles / more actual ions.

Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this.
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and 
double distilled water.
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double 
distilled water.

This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.







Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times for purity.  I find 
once through my distiller makes fine EIS... but it is amazing the smell of the 
distiller after I am done.  I don't want to think about taking that stuff into 
my body or even showering in it.
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help with 
current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC. However, 
if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that route. I assume 
from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a zener diode. Is that 
correct? 

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of 
the 
sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39 was 
good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell distillers since 
1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is not pure as it leaches 
the plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4 used distiller 
sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, I will start with 
Reverse 
Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.

Joe


On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar   wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.


Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use 
a 
current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar 
then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the 
current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but 
then it takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will ensure 
smaller particles / more actual ions.
Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this. 
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and 
double distilled water. 
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double 
distilled water. 
This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.







Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Asif Nathekar
Each point addressed below




On 21 Mar 2013, at 19:34, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Hi Asif,
 I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help with 
 current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC.

Current limiting is in order of ma for most people that could be between 0.5 to 
2 ma for large silver electrodes
Most bench type supplies usually aren't equipped for currents that Low at that 
resolution. I am unaware of the specs of your psu so I have made assumptions.

 However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that route. I 
 assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a zener diode. Is 
 that correct? 
Nope zeners are for voltage. You will need a specific current limiting diode. 
I use an ic for that so cannot recommend one. The other members can advise.

 1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?

Take the surface area of the side of silver you wish to use as your anode. And 
then only use the side that will face the cathode . Otherwise known as the 
brewing surface. As only the anode or positive side will be releasing the ions.
Take the measurement in square inches and use that to figure out your current. 
Remember no more than 1ma per square inch


 The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.

Use a borosilicate vessel. Other types of glass or plastic may leach their 
materials into the brew 

 The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of the 
 sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39 was 
 good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell distillers since 
 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is not pure as it leaches 
 the plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4 used distiller 
 sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, I will start with Reverse 
 Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.

Agreed RO water plus a single distillation should do the trick!


Let us know how you get on

 
 Joe
 
 On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:
 Hi Joe,
 Please also look at the silver cell process.
 
 Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use a 
 current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar then 
 all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the current to a 
 maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but then it takes longer 
 to brew. And remember a lower current will ensure smaller particles / more 
 actual ions.
 Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
 So please do not over think this. 
 More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and double 
 distilled water. 
 Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double distilled 
 water. 
 This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
 Best of luck
 Peace to all
 Asif.
 


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Asif Nathekar
Hi PT
I also found some people were getting good results with their single distilled 
water.
But in my particular case and also of some others too it had to be double 
distilled. Maybe the distillers had a design issue where some of the solubles 
were still getting through somehow? Until I had this problem I wouldn't have 
believed it either !
Now I go to the extent of boiling the water first to get rid of stuff with a 
lower boiling point and then I distill it.
I found that helped further.
Regards




On 21 Mar 2013, at 20:21, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi Joe,
 When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times for purity.  I 
 find once through my distiller makes fine EIS... but it is amazing the smell 
 of the distiller after I am done.  I don't want to think about taking that 
 stuff into my body or even showering in it.
 PT
 
 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
 Subject: Re: CSnew member intro
 
 Hi Asif,
 I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help with 
 current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC. However, 
 if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that route. I assume 
 from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a zener diode. Is that 
 correct? 
 1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
 The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
 The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of the 
 sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39 was 
 good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell distillers since 
 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is not pure as it leaches 
 the plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4 used distiller 
 sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, I will start with Reverse 
 Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.
 
 Joe
 
 On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:
 Hi Joe,
 Please also look at the silver cell process.
 
 Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use a 
 current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a 
 dollar then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the 
 current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but then it 
 takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will ensure smaller 
 particles / more actual ions.
 Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
 So please do not over think this. 
 More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and double 
 distilled water. 
 Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double distilled 
 water. 
 This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
 Best of luck
 Peace to all
 Asif.
 


Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Huard
So PT, that leaves me to ask, what do you shower in? And the part that 
doesn't smell but is much more dangerous is HFSA under the pseudonym 
fluoride. I use a shower filter and would use a whole house filter if it 
would get rid of fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City of 
London to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities have 
done. Most recently, Windsor.
I bought a 1 litre glass jar today with a plastic lid for $2 at the 
Dollarama Store. They have 1500 ml glass jars for the same price.


Joe H.

On 21/03/2013 4:21 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times for 
purity.  I find once through my distiller makes fine EIS... but it is 
amazing the smell of the distiller after I am done.  I don't want to 
think about taking that stuff into my body or even showering in it.

PT


*From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help 
with current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or 
IC. However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate 
that route. I assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you 
mean a zener diode. Is that correct?

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none 
of the sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled 
for $1.39 was good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell 
distillers since 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is 
not pure as it leaches the plastic. I could double distill my water as 
I have 4 used distiller sitting around my basement doing nothing. 
However, I will start with Reverse Osmosis water put into a distiller, 
and that will be identical.


Joe

On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.

Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use 
a current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a 
dollar then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep 
the current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better 
but then it takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will 
ensure smaller particles / more actual ions.

Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this.
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and 
double distilled water.
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double 
distilled water.

This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.









Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread James McDonald
No not a zener diode but a CLD (Current Limiting Diode) this diode limits the 
current to a specific amount according to which one you pick out, 100uA, 470uA, 
1.0mA, 1.5mA or higher. I use the diuodes with a 100 volt max limit cause I use 
the 36VDC (4- 9 volt batteries). If I wish to use a higher voltage if I find a 
50VDC or 65VDC  transformer be nice to use.





 From: Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro
 
Each point addressed below




On 21 Mar 2013, at 19:34, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Hi Asif,
 I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help with 
 current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC.

Current limiting is in order of ma for most people that could be between 0.5 to 
2 ma for large silver electrodes
Most bench type supplies usually aren't equipped for currents that Low at that 
resolution. I am unaware of the specs of your psu so I have made assumptions.

 However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that route. I 
 assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a zener diode. Is 
 that correct? 
Nope zeners are for voltage. You will need a specific current limiting diode. 
I use an ic for that so cannot recommend one. The other members can advise.

 1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?

Take the surface area of the side of silver you wish to use as your anode. And 
then only use the side that will face the cathode . Otherwise known as the 
brewing surface. As only the anode or positive side will be releasing the ions.
Take the measurement in square inches and use that to figure out your current. 
Remember no more than 1ma per square inch


 The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.

Use a borosilicate vessel. Other types of glass or plastic may leach their 
materials into the brew 

 The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of the 
 sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39 was 
 good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell distillers since 
 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is not pure as it leaches 
 the plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4 used distiller 
 sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, I will start with Reverse 
 Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.

Agreed RO water plus a single distillation should do the trick!


Let us know how you get on

 
 Joe
 
 On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:
 Hi Joe,
 Please also look at the silver cell process.
 
 Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use a 
 current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar then 
 all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the current to a 
 maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but then it takes longer 
 to brew. And remember a lower current will ensure smaller particles / more 
 actual ions.
 Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
 So please do not over think this. 
 More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and double 
 distilled water. 
 Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double distilled 
 water. 
 This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
 Best of luck
 Peace to all
 Asif.
 


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread kagi
http://idealearthwater.com/whole-house-filter/ 
offers a fluoride removing whole house filter. 
Maybe there are similar whole house filters sold in the UK?


-Original Message- 
From: Joe Huard 
Sent: Thursday, 21 March, 2013 17:24 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro 

 I use a shower filter and would use a whole house filter if it 
would get rid of fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City of 
London to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities have 
done. Most recently, Windsor.






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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Huard
I'm in Canada, LOL. The Windsor, ON vote was last Nov. They got it out 
to the East in Waterloo, ON in 2010. I just don't want to spend valuable 
money on an alumina fluoride filter and then this city will stop putting 
in. I am also part of our local effort to lobby the stupid councillors 
at City Hall.

I'll check out the site, anyway. Thanks.

Joe
On 21/03/2013 8:50 PM, kagi wrote:
http://idealearthwater.com/whole-house-filter/ offers a fluoride 
removing whole house filter. Maybe there are similar whole house 
filters sold in the UK?


-Original Message- From: Joe Huard Sent: Thursday, 21 March, 
2013 17:24 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSnew member intro 

 I use a shower filter and would use a whole house filter if it 
would get rid of fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City of 
London to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities 
have done. Most recently, Windsor.






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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks, Asif.
PT





From: Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 5:39:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro


Hi PT
I also found some people were getting good results with their single distilled 
water.
But in my particular case and also of some others too it had to be double 
distilled. Maybe the distillers had a design issue where some of the solubles 
were still getting through somehow? Until I had this problem I wouldn't have 
believed it either !
Now I go to the extent of boiling the water first to get rid of stuff with a 
lower boiling point and then I distill it.
I found that helped further.
Regards




On 21 Mar 2013, at 20:21, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times for purity.  I 
find 
once through my distiller makes fine EIS... but it is amazing the smell of the 
distiller after I am done.  I don't want to think about taking that stuff into 
my body or even showering in it.
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help with 
current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or IC. 
However, 
if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate that route. I assume 
from my rusty old electronics memory that you mean a zener diode. Is that 
correct? 

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none of 
the 
sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled for $1.39 
was 
good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to sell distillers since 
1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic jug is not pure as it 
leaches 
the plastic. I could double distill my water as I have 4 used distiller 
sitting around my basement doing nothing. However, I will start with 
Reverse 
Osmosis water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.

Joe


On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar   wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.


Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you use 
a 
current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a dollar 
then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep the 
current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better but 
then it takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will 
ensure 
smaller particles / more actual ions.
Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this. 
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover and 
double distilled water. 
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double 
distilled water. 
This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.







Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread PT Ferrance
I'm with you, Joe.  What do the glass jars do?
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 21, 2013 6:24:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

So PT, that leaves me to ask, what do you shower in? And the part that 
doesn't smell but is much more dangerous is HFSA under the pseudonym 
fluoride. I use a shower filter and would use a whole house filter if it 
would get rid of fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City of 
London 
to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities have done. 
Most 
recently, Windsor.
I bought a 1 litre glass jar today with a plastic lid for $2 at the 
Dollarama Store. They have 1500 ml glass jars for the same price.

Joe H.


On 21/03/2013 4:21 PM, PT Ferrance   wrote:

Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times   for 
purity.  I find once through my distiller makes fine   EIS... but it 
is 
amazing the smell of the distiller after I am   done.  I don't want to 
think about taking that stuff into my   body or even showering in it.
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu,   March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will 
help 
with current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode 
or 
IC. However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate 
that route. I assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you 
mean a zener diode. Is that correct? 

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for 
that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but 
none of the sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart 
distilled for $1.39 was good enough. I was not swayed by that, as 
I 
used to sell distillers since 1980, and I know distilled water in 
a 
plastic jug is not pure as it leaches the plastic. I could double 
distill my water as I have 4 used distiller sitting around my 
basement doing nothing. However, I will start with Reverse Osmosis 
water put into a distiller, and that will be identical.

Joe


On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif   nathekar wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.


Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if 
you use a current limiting diode or current limiting ic 
costing 
around a dollar then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts 
supply and to keep the current to a maximum of 1ma per square 
inch, the less the better but then it takes longer to brew. 
And 
remember a lower current will ensure smaller particles / more 
actual ions.
Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this. 
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good 
cover and double distilled water. 
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without 
double 
distilled water. 
This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.






Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-21 Thread Joe Huard
I'm going to stick a couple of silver electrodes through the plastic cap 
and run current through them at a slow rate, less than 1 ma per square inch.

Joe
On 21/03/2013 9:55 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

I'm with you, Joe.  What do the glass jars do?
PT


*From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 21, 2013 6:24:51 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSnew member intro

So PT, that leaves me to ask, what do you shower in? And the part that 
doesn't smell but is much more dangerous is HFSA under the pseudonym 
fluoride. I use a shower filter and would use a whole house filter if 
it would get rid of fluoride. We are presently trying to get the City 
of London to stop putting fluoride in our water like many other cities 
have done. Most recently, Windsor.
I bought a 1 litre glass jar today with a plastic lid for $2 at the 
Dollarama Store. They have 1500 ml glass jars for the same price.


Joe H.

On 21/03/2013 4:21 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Hi Joe,
When I started someone told me to distill the water 7 times for 
purity.  I find once through my distiller makes fine EIS... but it is 
amazing the smell of the distiller after I am done.  I don't want to 
think about taking that stuff into my body or even showering in it.

PT


*From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, March 21, 2013 3:35:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSnew member intro

Hi Asif,
I already own a BK Precision 30 V DC Power Supply 1630. It will help 
with current limiting, so no need for a current limiting diode or 
IC. However, if I ever make one for someone else, I'll investigate 
that route. I assume from my rusty old electronics memory that you 
mean a zener diode. Is that correct?

1 ma per square in of what? One or 2 silver rods surface area?
The brewing vessel is what I need, with a good cover; looking for that.
The double distilled water is news to me. I know what it is, but none 
of the sites that I was on mentioned it. They said Walmart distilled 
for $1.39 was good enough. I was not swayed by that, as I used to 
sell distillers since 1980, and I know distilled water in a plastic 
jug is not pure as it leaches the plastic. I could double distill my 
water as I have 4 used distiller sitting around my basement doing 
nothing. However, I will start with Reverse Osmosis water put into a 
distiller, and that will be identical.


Joe

On 21/03/2013 12:26 PM, asif nathekar wrote:

Hi Joe,
Please also look at the silver cell process.

Many here have found that the simplest way is the best and if you 
use a current limiting diode or current limiting ic costing around a 
dollar then all you need is a 30 v or thereabouts supply and to keep 
the current to a maximum of 1ma per square inch, the less the better 
but then it takes longer to brew. And remember a lower current will 
ensure smaller particles / more actual ions.

Also a low current will eliminate the need for stirring.
So please do not over think this.
More important is a good quality brewing vessel with a good cover 
and double distilled water.
Even with the expensive machines they won't work without double 
distilled water.

This doesn't need anymore engineering than current limiting.
Best of luck
Peace to all
Asif.











CSnew member intro

2013-03-20 Thread Joe Huard

Hi Group,
I just joined this list 2 days ago. I looked in the archives and saw 
many names that I recognized from some of the Yahoo groups I am in.
I would like to know how to make CS or EIS, whatever is better or 
cheaper or easier. I am not really flush with money, but I have enough. 
I read an article on Mercola's site that gave some other websites about 
CS. http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html has a report on 
32 brands of CS, with the home made brew only in fifth place, and that 
is with a $700 SG-7. I also saw a video on YouTube showing a 3 times 9 
volt battery setup that appeared to work. There are big differences 
between those 2 devices.
I have access to distilled water as I have 4 older machines that I can 
get working. I use RO for my drinking water.
I also have a 30 volt 3amp regulated DC power supply. I read that 30 
volts was best, but 27 volts good enough. But, I also read that AC 
current is best. If AC current is best, what frequency is best and what 
is the correct current to make the smallest silver particles?
If DC is better, I can set the power supply to limit the current if I 
know what the limit should be.
I read that someone from this list considers 85% ionic silver and 15% 
colloidal silver optimal. Is this the consensus? Is 100% CS impossible 
to obtain, or undesirable due to cost or ineffectiveness?


Enough questions for now,

Joe H.


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-20 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi Joe, PT here.  I joined this group a number of years ago and have enjoyed it 
from the beginning.  Everyone is helpful and willing to share.  I purchased a 
silverpuppy from Ode and have been very happy with it as all I need to do is 
plug it in and let it work.  When the CS/EIS is done it turns itself off.  If I 
want something stronger I can override.
Nice to see you on another forum.
PT





From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
Sent: Wed, March 20, 2013 4:05:22 PM
Subject: CSnew member intro

Hi Group,
I just joined this list 2 days ago. I looked in the archives and saw many names 
that I recognized from some of the Yahoo groups I am in.
I would like to know how to make CS or EIS, whatever is better or cheaper or 
easier. I am not really flush with money, but I have enough. I read an article 
on Mercola's site that gave some other websites about CS. 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html has a report on 32 brands 
of 
CS, with the home made brew only in fifth place, and that is with a $700 SG-7. 
I 
also saw a video on YouTube showing a 3 times 9 volt battery setup that 
appeared 
to work. There are big differences between those 2 devices.
I have access to distilled water as I have 4 older machines that I can get 
working. I use RO for my drinking water.
I also have a 30 volt 3amp regulated DC power supply. I read that 30 volts was 
best, but 27 volts good enough. But, I also read that AC current is best. If AC 
current is best, what frequency is best and what is the correct current to make 
the smallest silver particles?
If DC is better, I can set the power supply to limit the current if I know what 
the limit should be.
I read that someone from this list considers 85% ionic silver and 15% colloidal 
silver optimal. Is this the consensus? Is 100% CS impossible to obtain, or 
undesirable due to cost or ineffectiveness?

Enough questions for now,

Joe H.


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Re: CSnew member intro

2013-03-20 Thread Teri

HI Joe,

I have the SG 7 and also the smaller unit from SilverGen.  All I can 
say is that I have the highest respect from Trem and his product. It 
is so easy to use and because it makes up to 5 gallons at one time I 
have plenty to share or sell.  My machine has paid for itself over 
the years I've owned it. Never have had any issues.


Teri

At 04:03 PM 3/20/2013, you wrote:

Hi Group,
I just joined this list 2 days ago. I looked in the archives and saw 
many names that I recognized from some of the Yahoo groups I am in.
I would like to know how to make CS or EIS, whatever is better or 
cheaper or easier. I am not really flush with money, but I have 
enough. I read an article on Mercola's site that gave some other 
websites about CS. 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html has a report on 
32 brands of CS, with the home made brew only in fifth place, and 
that is with a $700 SG-7. I also saw a video on YouTube showing a 3 
times 9 volt battery setup that appeared to work. There are big 
differences between those 2 devices.
I have access to distilled water as I have 4 older machines that I 
can get working. I use RO for my drinking water.
I also have a 30 volt 3amp regulated DC power supply. I read that 30 
volts was best, but 27 volts good enough. But, I also read that AC 
current is best. If AC current is best, what frequency is best and 
what is the correct current to make the smallest silver particles?
If DC is better, I can set the power supply to limit the current if 
I know what the limit should be.
I read that someone from this list considers 85% ionic silver and 
15% colloidal silver optimal. Is this the consensus? Is 100% CS 
impossible to obtain, or undesirable due to cost or ineffectiveness?


Enough questions for now,

Joe H.


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Re: CSNew member intro

2011-06-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Vicki -- welcome to our list.  I enjoyed hearing that CS helped with your 
ringworm infection problem.  You're going to learn a lot about various uses for 
CS -- hang onto your hat, you're in for a wild ride!!  :-D
Mary Ann





From: Vicki Breslin vickib...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, June 25, 2011 6:21:48 PM
Subject: CSNew member intro


Hi,

My name is Vicki and I am very interested in learning more about colloidal 
silver.  Thank you so much for having a chat board online for questions from 
newbies and postings from more experienced people.  I found out about colloidal 
silver in a round about way.  We adopted a cat last summer that had ringworm.  
Two people in the household (plus our other cat) got ringworm.  We tried the 
conventional over the counter medications and also visited the doctor for 
various cures.  Some helped but none seemed to cure or get rid of it.

Colloidal silver from our health store was the biggest help along with diet 
change (less sugar and carbs).  Since I did a little research on colloidal 
silver before trying I know it has many uses and I am excited to learn about 
those through this group.

Thank you,
Vicki


RE: CSNew member intro

2011-06-26 Thread Faith Saint Francis

You can easily make your own, Vicky,without any sophisticated machinery.And: I 
(now in this for a great many years) never travel without it or without my 
do-it-yourself kit.Leonardo FaithLicensed Reflexo-therapist,Dianetics Auditor.
 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:39:02 -0700
From: devorah...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew member intro
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Big welcome to you Vicki...if you love to learn your in the right place,
Debbie




From: Vicki Breslin vickib...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: CSNew member intro





Hi,

My name is Vicki and I am very interested in learning more about colloidal 
silver.  Thank you so much for having a chat board online for questions from 
newbies and postings from more experienced people.  I found out about colloidal 
silver in a round about way.  We adopted a cat last summer that had ringworm.  
Two people in the household (plus our other cat) got ringworm.  We tried the 
conventional over the counter medications and also visited the doctor for 
various cures.  Some helped but none seemed to cure or get rid of it.

Colloidal silver from our health store was the biggest help along with diet 
change (less sugar and carbs).  Since I did a little research on colloidal 
silver before trying I know it has many uses and I am excited to learn about 
those through this group.

Thank you,
Vicki


  

CSNew member intro

2011-06-25 Thread Vicki Breslin

Hi,

My name is Vicki and I am very interested in learning more about colloidal 
silver.  Thank you so much for having a chat board online for questions from 
newbies and postings from more experienced people.  I found out about colloidal 
silver in a round about way.  We adopted a cat last summer that had ringworm.  
Two people in the household (plus our other cat) got ringworm.  We tried the 
conventional over the counter medications and also visited the doctor for 
various cures.  Some helped but none seemed to cure or get rid of it.

Colloidal silver from our health store was the biggest help along with diet 
change (less sugar and carbs).  Since I did a little research on colloidal 
silver before trying I know it has many uses and I am excited to learn about 
those through this group.

Thank you,
Vicki
  

Re: CSNew member intro

2011-06-25 Thread Deborah Gerard
Big welcome to you Vicki...if you love to learn your in the right place,
Debbie

From: Vicki Breslin vickib...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: CSNew member intro


Hi,

My name is Vicki and I am very interested in learning more about colloidal 
silver.  Thank you so much for having a chat board online for questions from 
newbies and postings from more experienced people.  I found out about colloidal 
silver in a round about way.  We adopted a cat last summer that had ringworm.  
Two people in the household (plus our other cat) got ringworm.  We tried the 
conventional over the counter medications and also visited the doctor for 
various cures.  Some helped but none seemed to cure or get rid of it.

Colloidal silver from our health store was the biggest help along with diet 
change (less sugar and carbs).  Since I did a little research on colloidal 
silver before trying I know it has many uses and I am excited to learn about 
those through this group.

Thank you,
Vicki

CSNew Member Intro

1999-06-28 Thread MMilian3
Hi everyone!
My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out more 
about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and also 
my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and more 
about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to the 
whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led to the 
growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I sought 
out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER, more 
healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw diet. 
Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her health 
and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
Thank you for your advice!
Melissa 
mmili...@aol.com


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Re: CSNew Member Intro

1999-06-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
CS will kill all pathogens.  I don't think that the stones are caused by
pathogens, but likely by hard water with lots of calcium.  If you have hard 
water
then give her distilled or bottled spring water.  The present stones may not
dissolve, but they should stop forming.  I have heard that there are herbs and 
so
forth that can dissolve the stones, so keep researching.

Marshall

mmili...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out more
 about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and also
 my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and more
 about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to the
 whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
 My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led to the
 growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I sought
 out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER, more
 healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw diet.
 Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her health
 and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
 Thank you for your advice!
 Melissa
 mmili...@aol.com

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Re: CSNew Member Intro

1999-06-28 Thread jfoster
Hydrangea root works nicely given with marshmallow root
Thanks   John jfost...@cableone.net
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew Member Intro


 CS will kill all pathogens.  I don't think that the stones are caused by
 pathogens, but likely by hard water with lots of calcium.  If you have
hard water
 then give her distilled or bottled spring water.  The present stones may
not
 dissolve, but they should stop forming.  I have heard that there are herbs
and so
 forth that can dissolve the stones, so keep researching.

 Marshall

 mmili...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi everyone!
  My name is Melissa. I joined this list so that I can find out
more
  about CS and how to use it for improving the health of my cat Angel (and
also
  my own health). I do not much about CS, but have been hearing more and
more
  about it on the Holisticat email list that I belong to. I am very new to
the
  whole holistic/natural way of  taking care of my family and my pets.
  My cat suffers from FUS (feline urological syndrome) which led
to the
  growth of  calcium oxalate bladder stones. That is the main reason I
sought
  out holistic websites and email lists. I am looking to find a  BETTER,
more
  healthy way of treating this and have begun TRYING to feed her a raw
diet.
  Any advice or information regarding how CS can be beneficial to her
health
  and to that of my own, would be greatly appreciated : )
  Thank you for your advice!
  Melissa
  mmili...@aol.com
 
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