RE: CSRAIN WATER
Sorry Yousouf, missed this.
In reply to your snipped quote below, here's an interesting observation of mine
of several years ago...
I filled a drinking glass with rainwater from our tank and tested it with a TDS
meter {yes, I know how inaccurate they are} and after brewing for 3 minutes
that reading went down. I did ask someone about why the reading went down
instead of up and was told it was to do with electrolysis and the organics etc
in the water and if left to brew long enough the reading would eventually go
back up.
This outcome displeased me somewhat as I had no idea of silver content so I
made another batch in a drinking glass, brewed for the same time i.e. 3
minutes, and had it laboratory tested for silver content. The test was not
exhaustive or definitive as this was when I first got involved with making EIS
but the result was 40+ppm total silver content.
Not being familiar with chemistry, I found the lowering of the meter reading
after brewing a somewhat fascinating observation.
N.
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:56:58 -0700
From: ey...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
By the way the faster you achieve a high concentration is not a good sign at
all for the reasons mentioned above. This means that your water has dissolved
minerals and your water conductivity is high. With good distilled water it
takes about 20-30 minutes to get good CS. The color will be slightly golden
with a bitter aftertaste.
CSRAIN WATER
I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
Re: CSRAIN WATER
The minerals could change the charge in the water too soon, and depending on what's in the water, you simply won't have pure CS, which is what probably made those highly publicized folks turn blue/gray. You really need to use distilled water. I once forgot that my urn for distilled drinking water already had prill beads (google them) in it and that, alone, changed the water enough that my generator shut off as if it sensed it was already saturated with silver. L On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
Re: CSRAIN WATER
*The ONLY type of water you should use is distilled water, which has been distilled by water distillation (not reverse osmosis).* There are NO exceptions. All other types of water have too many impurities. While water impurities help speed up the cooking of the colloidal silver, the minerals in the water can bind to the silver particles and may eventually create a health condition known as argyria. Argyria is a condition where the skin turns grey or blue-grey because of taking high doses of impure colloidal silver over time. It is very difficult to reverse the condition, so it should be avoided.(http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/CSilver.html)me info is at http://www.thesilveredge.com/faq.shtml One site -- http://www.bigclive.com/silver.htm -- says If you want to make pure colloidal silver, then you will need to use distilled water. While this is easily available in the USA, it's hard to come by in the UK and the purchase of a very expensive water distiller will be required. Personally I think that tap water is fine, particularly if the silver is being drunk immediately. Another site, http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csarticle2.shtml, says : The first type of product is the classic, original kind, usually called electro-colloidal silver. This product is made either by the electro-arc method in deionized water, or by the low voltage electrolysis method in distilled water. This product is usually found in concentrations between 3-5 ppm (parts per million), but sometimes as high as 100 ppm. Properly made, this product consists of microscopic particles of pure, elemental silver suspended in water, with no other elements present. Each particle of silver carries a POSITIVE electrical charge. Colloidal silver made this way appears either transparent-clear or transparent-light yellow. And still another site says to not use anything but distilled water if it is going to be drunk by people: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm If the Silver Colloid is to be ingested or injected, be sure to use distilled water. Tap water is fine for other uses, such as for a topical spray or for plants. Also, before beginning to make your Colloidal Silver you will need to make a saline solution for enhancing conductivity. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Gladys Williams gwms...@optonline.netwrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams -- __ Check out the 2013 Airedale Rescue Quilt: http://airedalerescue.net/2013quilt/ And follow the Quilting Bee blog: http://airedalesaroundtown.blogspot.com/2013
Re: CSRAIN WATER
But saline means salt and salt has impurities too. WTF are you saying then T On 8/20/13, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: *The ONLY type of water you should use is distilled water, which has been distilled by water distillation (not reverse osmosis).* There are NO exceptions. All other types of water have too many impurities. While water impurities help speed up the cooking of the colloidal silver, the minerals in the water can bind to the silver particles and may eventually create a health condition known as argyria. Argyria is a condition where the skin turns grey or blue-grey because of taking high doses of impure colloidal silver over time. It is very difficult to reverse the condition, so it should be avoided.(http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/CSilver.html)me info is at http://www.thesilveredge.com/faq.shtml One site -- http://www.bigclive.com/silver.htm -- says If you want to make pure colloidal silver, then you will need to use distilled water. While this is easily available in the USA, it's hard to come by in the UK and the purchase of a very expensive water distiller will be required. Personally I think that tap water is fine, particularly if the silver is being drunk immediately. Another site, http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csarticle2.shtml, says : The first type of product is the classic, original kind, usually called electro-colloidal silver. This product is made either by the electro-arc method in deionized water, or by the low voltage electrolysis method in distilled water. This product is usually found in concentrations between 3-5 ppm (parts per million), but sometimes as high as 100 ppm. Properly made, this product consists of microscopic particles of pure, elemental silver suspended in water, with no other elements present. Each particle of silver carries a POSITIVE electrical charge. Colloidal silver made this way appears either transparent-clear or transparent-light yellow. And still another site says to not use anything but distilled water if it is going to be drunk by people: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm If the Silver Colloid is to be ingested or injected, be sure to use distilled water. Tap water is fine for other uses, such as for a topical spray or for plants. Also, before beginning to make your Colloidal Silver you will need to make a saline solution for enhancing conductivity. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Gladys Williams gwms...@optonline.netwrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams -- __ Check out the 2013 Airedale Rescue Quilt: http://airedalerescue.net/2013quilt/ And follow the Quilting Bee blog: http://airedalesaroundtown.blogspot.com/2013 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRAIN WATER
@GWilliams...I have made it using rainwater, many times, of course it will have compounds and organics etc included from whatever comes off the roof into the tank, but one can achieve a high concentration of silver in 3-5 minutes brewing. I would still use rainwater in an emergency if I considered it was warranted to hit something hard and fast initially before reverting back to the properly made EIS for continued treatment. @Lena...I have never found any articles stating a rainwater connection with that blue business, it was always attributed to mains water and a host of other stupid reasons. It should be remembered that not all societies have the advantage of DW or pure water available to them. Mains water not only contains fluoride, chlorine etc but also contains anti rust additives and a whole host of other stuff. There are two forms of fluoride apparently, good and bad, our, and I would assume all other mains water supplies contain the toxic waste by product of Industry fluoride imported from China. I am led to believe THAT form of fluoride is illegal to dump, but so as avoid the Industry expense and worry of disposal someone came up with the idea to sell it to water authorities. I believe it's grade 7 on the toxicity list and an illegal substance to just dump in land fill or whatever? N. Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER From: drumr...@stny.rr.com Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:13:46 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The minerals could change the charge in the water too soon, and depending on what's in the water, you simply won't have pure CS, which is what probably made those highly publicized folks turn blue/gray. You really need to use distilled water. I once forgot that my urn for distilled drinking water already had prill beads (google them) in it and that, alone, changed the water enough that my generator shut off as if it sensed it was already saturated with silver. L On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain waterto make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water?Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
Re: CSRAIN WATER
I object to your WTF. From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER But saline means salt and salt has impurities too. WTF are you saying then T On 8/20/13, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: *The ONLY type of water you should use is distilled water, which has been distilled by water distillation (not reverse osmosis).* There are NO exceptions. All other types of water have too many impurities. While water impurities help speed up the cooking of the colloidal silver, the minerals in the water can bind to the silver particles and may eventually create a health condition known as argyria. Argyria is a condition where the skin turns grey or blue-grey because of taking high doses of impure colloidal silver over time. It is very difficult to reverse the condition, so it should be avoided.(http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/CSilver.html)me info is at http://www.thesilveredge.com/faq.shtml One site -- http://www.bigclive.com/silver.htm -- says If you want to make pure colloidal silver, then you will need to use distilled water. While this is easily available in the USA, it's hard to come by in the UK and the purchase of a very expensive water distiller will be required. Personally I think that tap water is fine, particularly if the silver is being drunk immediately. Another site, http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csarticle2.shtml, says : The first type of product is the classic, original kind, usually called electro-colloidal silver. This product is made either by the electro-arc method in deionized water, or by the low voltage electrolysis method in distilled water. This product is usually found in concentrations between 3-5 ppm (parts per million), but sometimes as high as 100 ppm. Properly made, this product consists of microscopic particles of pure, elemental silver suspended in water, with no other elements present. Each particle of silver carries a POSITIVE electrical charge. Colloidal silver made this way appears either transparent-clear or transparent-light yellow. And still another site says to not use anything but distilled water if it is going to be drunk by people: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm If the Silver Colloid is to be ingested or injected, be sure to use distilled water. Tap water is fine for other uses, such as for a topical spray or for plants. Also, before beginning to make your Colloidal Silver you will need to make a saline solution for enhancing conductivity. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Gladys Williams gwms...@optonline.netwrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams -- __ Check out the 2013 Airedale Rescue Quilt: http://airedalerescue.net/2013quilt/ And follow the Quilting Bee blog: http://airedalesaroundtown.blogspot.com/2013 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAIN WATER
I shall try to answer the question of the use of spring or distilled water. Distilled water has no dissolved minerals. It is just water and nothing else. The conductivity of distilled is very low. Spring water has dissolved minerals, some fluoride but not much (true spring water, not the tap water they bottle and sell to you as spring water.) The conductivity of spring water is high. When the conductivity is high the formation of silver colloids is very fast and the particles are big. Big silver particles are not as effective as small ones. Small particles can go deeper in the body system. This is why when you use tap or spring water you see the immediate formation of the white/grey cloud in the water, whereas when you use distilled the cloud form very slowly and it is not even white or grey. When the silver particles are very small they reflect light in a different way, which is why the thin cloud you see with pure distilled water is of a gold, or light brown color. So don't use spring water. It contains dissolved salts which may react with the silver, and the particles formed are too large. Use distilled water. You can also use reverse osmosis water. This process produces water with almost no dissolved salts. Rain water is like distilled water. But as the rain passes through the air it takes with it dust and smog. And you have to consider whether the surface it falls upon is clean enough. I have used snow (I live in Toronto) but it was not clean. I guess that in the countryside the snow may be cleaner and has less dissolved particles. By the way the faster you achieve a high concentration is not a good sign at all for the reasons mentioned above. This means that your water has dissolved minerals and your water conductivity is high. With good distilled water it takes about 20-30 minutes to get good CS. The color will be slightly golden with a bitter aftertaste. BTW the fluoride the USA and Canada use to make sick idiots of their people does not come from China, but from your own nuclear industry. Sodium hexafluoride is the same, whether produced in USA or China. From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: RE: CSRAIN WATER @GWilliams...I have made it using rainwater, many times, of course it will have compounds and organics etc included from whatever comes off the roof into the tank, but one can achieve a high concentration of silver in 3-5 minutes brewing. I would still use rainwater in an emergency if I considered it was warranted to hit something hard and fast initially before reverting back to the properly made EIS for continued treatment. @Lena...I have never found any articles stating a rainwater connection with that blue business, it was always attributed to mains water and a host of other stupid reasons. It should be remembered that not all societies have the advantage of DW or pure water available to them. Mains water not only contains fluoride, chlorine etc but also contains anti rust additives and a whole host of other stuff. There are two forms of fluoride apparently, good and bad, our, and I would assume all other mains water supplies contain the toxic waste by product of Industry fluoride imported from China. I am led to believe THAT form of fluoride is illegal to dump, but so as avoid the Industry expense and worry of disposal someone came up with the idea to sell it to water authorities. I believe it's grade 7 on the toxicity list and an illegal substance to just dump in land fill or whatever? N. Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER From: drumr...@stny.rr.com Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:13:46 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The minerals could change the charge in the water too soon, and depending on what's in the water, you simply won't have pure CS, which is what probably made those highly publicized folks turn blue/gray. You really need to use distilled water. I once forgot that my urn for distilled drinking water already had prill beads (google them) in it and that, alone, changed the water enough that my generator shut off as if it sensed it was already saturated with silver. L On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
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I'll second that. There is no place for such language here. PT From: yousouf eydatoula ey...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER I object to your WTF. From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER But saline means salt and salt has impurities too. WTF are you saying then T On 8/20/13, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote: *The ONLY type of water you should use is distilled water, which has been distilled by water distillation (not reverse osmosis).* There are NO exceptions. All other types of water have too many impurities. While water impurities help speed up the cooking of the colloidal silver, the minerals in the water can bind to the silver particles and may eventually create a health condition known as argyria. Argyria is a condition where the skin turns grey or blue-grey because of taking high doses of impure colloidal silver over time. It is very difficult to reverse the condition, so it should be avoided.(http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/CSilver.html)me info is at http://www.thesilveredge.com/faq.shtml One site -- http://www.bigclive.com/silver.htm -- says If you want to make pure colloidal silver, then you will need to use distilled water. While this is easily available in the USA, it's hard to come by in the UK and the purchase of a very expensive water distiller will be required. Personally I think that tap water is fine, particularly if the silver is being drunk immediately. Another site, http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csarticle2.shtml, says : The first type of product is the classic, original kind, usually called electro-colloidal silver. This product is made either by the electro-arc method in deionized water, or by the low voltage electrolysis method in distilled water. This product is usually found in concentrations between 3-5 ppm (parts per million), but sometimes as high as 100 ppm. Properly made, this product consists of microscopic particles of pure, elemental silver suspended in water, with no other elements present. Each particle of silver carries a POSITIVE electrical charge. Colloidal silver made this way appears either transparent-clear or transparent-light yellow. And still another site says to not use anything but distilled water if it is going to be drunk by people: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm If the Silver Colloid is to be ingested or injected, be sure to use distilled water. Tap water is fine for other uses, such as for a topical spray or for plants. Also, before beginning to make your Colloidal Silver you will need to make a saline solution for enhancing conductivity. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Gladys Williams gwms...@optonline.netwrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams -- __ Check out the 2013 Airedale Rescue Quilt: http://airedalerescue.net/2013quilt/ And follow the Quilting Bee blog: http://airedalesaroundtown.blogspot.com/2013 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAIN WATER
Hi Neville, Our roof has copper gullies between gables and I know other roofing materials could be problematic, especially where there is heavy industry nearby, like fracking. It's for that reason that I'd never recommend rainwater use to anyone whose circumstances I didn't know. That said, and where DW is impossible, obviously one chooses the best available, and yes, in a health emergency, I don't think less well-made CS, used briefly, would be catastrophic. My generator simply shuts off if the water isn't void of any contaminants, even reacting to prilled water, so that rules here. As for fluoride, I've brought my son and DIL up to speed as Marin County, CA may become yet another place to succumb to fluoride 'disposal' into their water mains. So depressing that this can still happen. Like the frackers want to dispose of their frack water as 'ice melt ' and 'dust control' in poor counties and townships where snowy roads are an issue and an expense. Like we really need benzene, toluene, proprietary toxins, and radioactivity draining into local streams, blowing in the wind, etc. Be well, Léna On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Neville Munn wrote: @GWilliams...I have made it using rainwater, many times, of course it will have compounds and organics etc included from whatever comes off the roof into the tank, but one can achieve a high concentration of silver in 3-5 minutes brewing. I would still use rainwater in an emergency if I considered it was warranted to hit something hard and fast initially before reverting back to the properly made EIS for continued treatment. @Lena...I have never found any articles stating a rainwater connection with that blue business, it was always attributed to mains water and a host of other stupid reasons. It should be remembered that not all societies have the advantage of DW or pure water available to them. Mains water not only contains fluoride, chlorine etc but also contains anti rust additives and a whole host of other stuff. There are two forms of fluoride apparently, good and bad, our, and I would assume all other mains water supplies contain the toxic waste by product of Industry fluoride imported from China. I am led to believe THAT form of fluoride is illegal to dump, but so as avoid the Industry expense and worry of disposal someone came up with the idea to sell it to water authorities. I believe it's grade 7 on the toxicity list and an illegal substance to just dump in land fill or whatever? N. Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER From: drumr...@stny.rr.com Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:13:46 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The minerals could change the charge in the water too soon, and depending on what's in the water, you simply won't have pure CS, which is what probably made those highly publicized folks turn blue/gray. You really need to use distilled water. I once forgot that my urn for distilled drinking water already had prill beads (google them) in it and that, alone, changed the water enough that my generator shut off as if it sensed it was already saturated with silver. L On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
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Thanks for this! Very succinct and a definite keeper! L On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:56 PM, yousouf eydatoula wrote: I shall try to answer the question of the use of spring or distilled water. Distilled water has no dissolved minerals. It is just water and nothing else. The conductivity of distilled is very low. Spring water has dissolved minerals, some fluoride but not much (true spring water, not the tap water they bottle and sell to you as spring water.) The conductivity of spring water is high. When the conductivity is high the formation of silver colloids is very fast and the particles are big. Big silver particles are not as effective as small ones. Small particles can go deeper in the body system. This is why when you use tap or spring water you see the immediate formation of the white/grey cloud in the water, whereas when you use distilled the cloud form very slowly and it is not even white or grey. When the silver particles are very small they reflect light in a different way, which is why the thin cloud you see with pure distilled water is of a gold, or light brown color. So don't use spring water. It contains dissolved salts which may react with the silver, and the particles formed are too large. Use distilled water. You can also use reverse osmosis water. This process produces water with almost no dissolved salts. Rain water is like distilled water. But as the rain passes through the air it takes with it dust and smog. And you have to consider whether the surface it falls upon is clean enough. I have used snow (I live in Toronto) but it was not clean. I guess that in the countryside the snow may be cleaner and has less dissolved particles. By the way the faster you achieve a high concentration is not a good sign at all for the reasons mentioned above. This means that your water has dissolved minerals and your water conductivity is high. With good distilled water it takes about 20-30 minutes to get good CS. The color will be slightly golden with a bitter aftertaste. BTW the fluoride the USA and Canada use to make sick idiots of their people does not come from China, but from your own nuclear industry. Sodium hexafluoride is the same, whether produced in USA or China. From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: RE: CSRAIN WATER @GWilliams...I have made it using rainwater, many times, of course it will have compounds and organics etc included from whatever comes off the roof into the tank, but one can achieve a high concentration of silver in 3-5 minutes brewing. I would still use rainwater in an emergency if I considered it was warranted to hit something hard and fast initially before reverting back to the properly made EIS for continued treatment. @Lena...I have never found any articles stating a rainwater connection with that blue business, it was always attributed to mains water and a host of other stupid reasons. It should be remembered that not all societies have the advantage of DW or pure water available to them. Mains water not only contains fluoride, chlorine etc but also contains anti rust additives and a whole host of other stuff. There are two forms of fluoride apparently, good and bad, our, and I would assume all other mains water supplies contain the toxic waste by product of Industry fluoride imported from China. I am led to believe THAT form of fluoride is illegal to dump, but so as avoid the Industry expense and worry of disposal someone came up with the idea to sell it to water authorities. I believe it's grade 7 on the toxicity list and an illegal substance to just dump in land fill or whatever? N. Subject: Re: CSRAIN WATER From: drumr...@stny.rr.com Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:13:46 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The minerals could change the charge in the water too soon, and depending on what's in the water, you simply won't have pure CS, which is what probably made those highly publicized folks turn blue/gray. You really need to use distilled water. I once forgot that my urn for distilled drinking water already had prill beads (google them) in it and that, alone, changed the water enough that my generator shut off as if it sensed it was already saturated with silver. L On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? And what is the danger of making CS from Spring Water? Thank you in advance for your responses? GWilliams
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I suppose in a pinch you can use anything, but distilled is optimum. The chap I bought my generator from (South Perth, Western Australia) had his rooftop set up to harvest the rainwater. Before it went into the storage tank it passed through filters. Even so, he used distilled water for CS. Over here it pretty much only rains in the winter. You let the first rains wash your roof, without harvesting the product, then you connect up the pipe-work to catch the water. In some places without mains water they have huge tanks, but just for drinking water a fairly small one is enough. Unfortunately, our roof both at front and back has lead around the exhaust/flume pipes, and I'm not sure we'd do well to save that water. Our garage would probably be better, but there are some huge gum trees next door which drop vegetable matter all year. The carport roof might be the best bet. At the moment it's very primitive, just buckets on the ground catching what pours off the end onto the driveway. We've wanted a rain water tank installed for almost twenty years, but where to site it we still haven't decided! In our part of the country it's said that we get the same rainfall as London, but we get it all in twelve weeks. I think we're going to miss this year's harvest as well . . . Diolch, Gladys bach. Rowena Google Translate is your interpreter. On 21/08/2013 12:00 AM, Gladys Williams wrote: I think I remember someone on the list saying in a pinch you could use rain water to make CS. Is this true? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAIN WATER and salt
A study in itself. Advice here has always been not to use salt in making CS, I believe? Brine, sole, Himalayan salt (I believe Real Salt is the US locala equivalent), Batmangheldi, are all worth researching. Yup. R On 21/08/2013 3:13 AM, 123 456 wrote: But saline means salt and salt has impurities too. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAIN WATER - Fluorine/fluoride salt
I recall one horrified member of one list who, during a discussion on natural salts as opposed to 'normal' table salt (stripped of useful minerals, heated, and otherwise abused) wrote in to say there was fluoride in Himalayan salt, so he would absolutely not be using that. From memory, I think the 'natural' one is fluorine, not fluoride, and is of course in its natural, original form. R Wikipedia: Fluorine is the chemical element with symbol F and atomic number 9. It is the lightest halogen and has a single stable isotope, fluorine-19. At standard pressure and temperature, fluorine is a pale yellow gas composed of diatomic molecules, F2. Fluorine is the most electronegative element. It is also the most reactive of all the elements, requiring great care in handling. The compounds of fluorine are called fluorides... In Earth's crust, fluorine is the thirteenth-most abundant element. Fluorine's most important mineral, fluorite, was first formally described in 1529 in the context of smelting. The mineral's name derives from the Latin verb fluo, meaning flow, because fluorite was added to metal ores to lower their melting points. Suggested as a chemical element in 1811, fluorine was named after the source mineral. The dangerous element resisted many attempts to isolate it, but in 1886, French chemist Henri Moissan succeeded. His method of electrolysis remains the industrial production method for fluorine gas The largest use of elemental fluorine, uranium enrichment, was developed during the Manhattan Project.The largest uses of inorganic fluorides are steel making and aluminium refining. Organofluorides tend to have high chemical and thermal stability. The largest commercial use is in refrigerant gases; even though traditional chlorofluorocarbons are banned, the replacements still contain fluorine. ... A growing fraction of modern pharmaceuticals contain fluorine; Lipitor and Prozac are prominent examples. Fluorine is the thirteenth most common element in Earth's crust, comprising between 600 and 700 ppm of the crust by mass. Because of its reactivity, it is usually found as fluoridated compounds. Three minerals exist that are industrially relevant sources: fluorite, fluorapatite, and cryolite.[39][40] Fluorite (CaF2), also called fluorspar, is the main source of commercial fluorine. Fluorite is a colorful mineral associated with hydrothermal deposits. It is common and found worldwide. China supplies more than half of the world's demand; Mexico is the second-largest producer. The United States produced most of the world's fluorite in the early 20th century, but its last mine, in Illinois, shut down in 1995.[40][41][42][43] Fluorapatite (Ca5(PO4)3F) is mined along with other apatites for its phosphate content and is used mostly for production of fertilizers. Most of the Earth's fluorine is bound in this mineral, but because the percentage within the mineral is low (3.5%), the fluorine is discarded as waste. Only in the United States is there significant recovery. There the hexafluorosilicates produced as byproducts are used to supply water fluoridation.[40] Cryolite (Na3AlF6) is the least abundant of the three but is a concentrated source of fluorine. It was formerly used directly in aluminium production. However, the main commercial mine, on the west coast of Greenland, closed in 1987.[40] Progress in isolating the element was slowed by the exceptional dangers of generating fluorine: several 19th century experimenters, the fluorine martyrs, were killed or blinded.[note 4] Initial attempts to isolate the element were also hindered by material difficulties: the extreme corrosiveness and reactivity of hydrogen fluoride (and of fluorine gas) as well as problems getting a suitable conducting liquid for electrolysis.[49][58] .. However, recent studies showed no difference in the frequency of caries (cavities) amongst teeth that were pre-fluoridated to different degrees. Current thinking is that fluoride prevent cavities primarily by helping teeth that are in the very early stages of tooth decay to regrow tooth enamel. In any case, it is only the fluoride that is directly present in the mouth (topical treatment) that prevents cavities. Fluoride ions that are swallowed do not benefit the teeth.[111] .. Although the best available evidence shows no association with adverse effects other than dental fluorosis, most of which is mild,[115] water fluoridation has been contentious for ethical, safety, and efficacy reasons About 20% of modern pharmaceuticals contain fluorine Several inhaled anesthetics, including the most common ones, are heavily fluorinated. The first fluorinated anesthetic, halothane, proved to be much safer (neither explosive nor flammable) and longer-lasting than those previously
Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation. It is an outrage. Raintree Nutrition is a highly reputable company delivering pure, sustainable products. This country has the boot of the federal bureaucrats on it's neck and I am not sure we will survive them. 'Their' goal is to keep us sick. If our government was a mental patient, the diagnosis would be 'split personality disorder'. Our first lady touts fresh, wholesome foods, approves of regulations determining school lunches while the FDA allows GMO foods, aspertame, flouride and pulls stunts like this, also locking up farmers out in Calif who are trying to make available organic products for the public. Oh.. let's not forget NYC legislating the size of soft drinks. Whew.. don't know what came over me.. but excuse the rant. lol...Lola H. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote: This is the second company giving notification they will fold up due to FDA interference. Leslie Taylor is a well known herbalist. This is truly sad. Melly The Last Ever Raintree Nutrition Sales Coupon **Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:21 PM** From: Raintree Nutrition i...@rain-tree.com Add sender to Contactshttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTBsdDYzdnI4BF9TAzM5ODMwMzAyNwRhYwNhZGRBQg--/SIG=1r62etnqh/EXP=1355290926/**http%3A//address.mail.yahoo.com/yab%3Fv=YM%26A=m%26simp=1%26e=info%2540rain-tree.com%26fn=Raintree%26ln=Nutrition%26.done=http%253A%252F%252Fus.mc1810.mail.yahoo.com%252Fmc%252FshowMessage%253FsMid%253D0%2526filterBy%253D%2526.rand%253D938531304%2526midIndex%253D0%2526mid%253D2_0_0_1_1195295_AHzGimIAACH0ULU9BArbUifBSAk%2526f%253D1%2526fromId%253Dinfo%252540rain-tree.com%2526m%253D2_0_0_1_1195295_AHzGimIAACH0ULU9BArbUifBSAk%25252C2_0_0_1_1193845_AHjGimIAALZAULU7KgDm8EzeIHs%25252C2_0_0_1_1192774_AHfGimIAARLnULU2iQ8Hy0rqr1Y%25252C2_0_0_1_1191661_APrHimIAAWZ0ULU0BQZrqy2kiXI%25252C2_0_0_1_839_AHjGimIAAAVJULUrhwx2tQualaU%25252C2_0_0_1_2037_AHjGimIAAToRULUj%25252FgIcdkxisdg%25252C%2526sort%253Ddate%2526order%253Ddown%2526startMid%253D0%2526hash%253Dd31f81c9188a2faf70d4cc65e6612cdc%2526.jsrand%253D4767765%2526acrumb%253DjPrj6MChZtg%2526enc%253Dauto To: Melly tita_...@yahoo.com We are sadden to inform you that Raintree Nutrition is going out of business. As many of you are aware, *we have been prohibited by the FDA of importing our bulk plant materials in from the Amazon to manufacture our products over the last year.* Between the additional high costs in meeting new GMP standards, the falling US dollar affecting our import prices, and battling the FDA over our website while still providing our customers with important factual information about our products, we simply cannot go on any longer. Hopefully by early next year, the Tropical Plant Database will be moved back onto the Raintree website and I will maintain the website for the wealth of information it has always provided for the last 16 years. I am gratified that we have done an excellent job in providing this service and encouraging competition because now many of the rainforest plants we've created markets for are available from other suppliers and companies. *Once Raintree stops selling products, we will post our formulas on the website product pages so our customers can make their own formulas if they care to. * The FDA may be able to stop us from selling products but they cannot stop us from providing factual information free of charge. If feasible, when I redesign the Raintree website, I will install message boards or discussion forums so you can finally share your experiences and results with these plants and formulas (that has been silenced by the FDA for all these years). So while the Raintree manufactured formulas might disappear, their legacy will live on and people around the world will continue to benefit from these incredible rainforest plants. While we are out of inventory on many of our most popular products, beginning today, all remaining inventory will be available at a 15% discount, until inventory sells out. If you are wanting to make your own formulas after ours sells out, don't forget to order the bulk 1 pound packages of herbs while they last. This coupon goes into effect immediately. To activate the coupon, just follow this link: http://www.nexternal.com/raintree/?Coupon=final or go to our main product page at http://www.rain-tree.com/rtmprod.htm and the coupon will be activated automatically when you click on any buy button. We would like to sincerely thank you for your support of our company and mission over these many years. We would also like wish you a Merry Christmas and many happy new years to come. Sincerely, Leslie Taylor and the dedicated staff of Raintree Nutrition. Raintree Nutrition 3579 Hwy 50 East, Suite 222 Carson City, NV 89701 http://www.rain-tree.com (800) 780-5902 i...@rain-tree.comhttp://us.mc1810.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=i...@rain-tree.com
Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
No need to apologies Lola, I think all of us in the U.S. {except big
pharma the politicians } feel the same way !!!Lois
In a message dated 11/28/2012 12:39:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phoenix23...@tds.net writes:
Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation. It is an outrage. Raintree
Nutrition is a highly reputable company delivering pure, sustainable
products. This country has the boot of the federal bureaucrats on it's neck
and I am not sure we will survive them. 'Their' goal is to keep us sick.
If our government was a mental patient, the diagnosis would be 'split
personality disorder'.
Our first lady touts fresh, wholesome foods, approves of regulations
determining school lunches while the FDA allows GMO foods, aspertame, flouride
and pulls stunts like this, also locking up farmers out in Calif who are
trying to make available organic products for the public. Oh.. let's not
forget NYC legislating the size of soft drinks. Whew.. don't know what came
over me.. but excuse the rant. lol...Lola H.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Melly Bag _tita_mel@yahoo.com_
(mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote:
Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
I don't understand why the FDA says they can't import herbs from the Amazon?
David
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
No need to apologies Lola, I think all of us in the U.S.
{except big pharma the politicians } feel the same way
!!!Lois
In a message dated 11/28/2012 12:39:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phoenix23...@tds.net writes:
Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation. It is an outrage. Raintree
Nutrition is a highly reputable company delivering pure, sustainable
products. This country has the boot of the federal bureaucrats on it's neck
and I am not sure we will survive them. 'Their' goal is to keep us sick.
If our government was a mental patient, the diagnosis would be 'split
personality disorder'.
Our first lady touts fresh, wholesome foods,
approves of regulations determining school lunches while the FDA allows
GMO foods, aspertame, flouride and pulls stunts like this,
also locking up farmers out in Calif who are trying to make available organic
products for the public. Oh.. let's not forget NYC legislating the size
of soft drinks. Whew.. don't know what came over me.. but excuse the
rant. lol... Lola H.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
Nor do I understand why they still give their blessings to aspartame and big
pahrma meds with horrific black box warnings. Go Figure! These people don't
have our best health interests at heart. Suspect they've been bought. L
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:47 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I don't understand why the FDA says they can't import herbs from the Amazon?
David
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
No need to apologies Lola, I think all of us in the U.S. {except big pharma
the politicians } feel the same way !!!Lois
In a message dated 11/28/2012 12:39:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phoenix23...@tds.net writes:
Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation. It is an outrage. Raintree
Nutrition is a highly reputable company delivering pure, sustainable
products. This country has the boot of the federal bureaucrats on it's neck
and I am not sure we will survive them. 'Their' goal is to keep us sick.
If our government was a mental patient, the diagnosis would be 'split
personality disorder'.
Our first lady touts fresh, wholesome foods, approves of regulations
determining school lunches while the FDA allows GMO foods, aspertame,
flouride and pulls stunts like this, also locking up farmers out in Calif
who are trying to make available organic products for the public. Oh.. let's
not forget NYC legislating the size of soft drinks. Whew.. don't know what
came over me.. but excuse the rant. lol...Lola H.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
That is a pretty good suspicion, Lena. It is a revolving door between
bigwigs at the FDA and Big Pharma. Lola H.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:
Nor do I understand why they still give their blessings to aspartame and
big pahrma meds with horrific black box warnings. Go Figure! These people
don't have our best health interests at heart. Suspect they've been bought.
L
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:47 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I don't understand why the FDA says they can't import herbs from the
Amazon?
David
--
*From:* zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
No need to apologies Lola, I think all of us in the U.S. {except big
pharma the politicians } feel the same way !!!Lois
In a message dated 11/28/2012 12:39:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phoenix23...@tds.net writes:
Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation. It is an outrage. Raintree
Nutrition is a highly reputable company delivering pure, sustainable
products. This country has the boot of the federal bureaucrats on it's
neck and I am not sure we will survive them. 'Their' goal is to keep us
sick.
If our government was a mental patient, the diagnosis would be 'split
personality disorder'.
Our first lady touts fresh, wholesome foods, approves of regulations
determining school lunches while the FDA allows GMO foods, aspertame,
flouride and pulls stunts like this, also locking up farmers out in Calif
who are trying to make available organic products for the public. Oh..
let's not forget NYC legislating the size of soft drinks. Whew.. don't
know what came over me.. but excuse the rant. lol...Lola H.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:
CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
This is the second company giving notification they will fold up due to FDA interference. Leslie Taylor is a well known herbalist. This is truly sad. Melly The Last Ever Raintree Nutrition Sales Coupon Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:21 PM From: Raintree Nutrition i...@rain-tree.comAdd sender to Contacts To: Melly tita_...@yahoo.com We are sadden to inform you that Raintree Nutrition is going out of business. As many of you are aware, we have been prohibited by the FDA of importing our bulk plant materials in from the Amazon to manufacture our products over the last year. Between the additional high costs in meeting new GMP standards, the falling US dollar affecting our import prices, and battling the FDA over our website while still providing our customers with important factual information about our products, we simply cannot go on any longer. Hopefully by early next year, the Tropical Plant Database will be moved back onto the Raintree website and I will maintain the website for the wealth of information it has always provided for the last 16 years. I am gratified that we have done an excellent job in providing this service and encouraging competition because now many of the rainforest plants we've created markets for are available from other suppliers and companies. Once Raintree stops selling products, we will post our formulas on the website product pages so our customers can make their own formulas if they care to. The FDA may be able to stop us from selling products but they cannot stop us from providing factual information free of charge. If feasible, when I redesign the Raintree website, I will install message boards or discussion forums so you can finally share your experiences and results with these plants and formulas (that has been silenced by the FDA for all these years). So while the Raintree manufactured formulas might disappear, their legacy will live on and people around the world will continue to benefit from these incredible rainforest plants. While we are out of inventory on many of our most popular products, beginning today, all remaining inventory will be available at a 15% discount, until inventory sells out. If you are wanting to make your own formulas after ours sells out, don't forget to order the bulk 1 pound packages of herbs while they last. This coupon goes into effect immediately. To activate the coupon, just follow this link: http://www.nexternal.com/raintree/?Coupon=final or go to our main product page at http://www.rain-tree.com/rtmprod.htm and the coupon will be activated automatically when you click on any buy button. We would like to sincerely thank you for your support of our company and mission over these many years. We would also like wish you a Merry Christmas and many happy new years to come. Sincerely, Leslie Taylor and the dedicated staff of Raintree Nutrition. Raintree Nutrition 3579 Hwy 50 East, Suite 222 Carson City, NV 89701 http://www.rain-tree.com (800) 780-5902 i...@rain-tree.com
CSRain water
I haven't tested it, but I doubt very much that rain water would be even close to pure enough. When I lived in UK you would see sand on your car after the rain which apparently came from the Sahara. Now when I look at city air and you can see smog, I can't help wondering how much of that gets knocked out of the sky with rain water. I've seen references claiming rainwater being around 20ppm, but suspect it could be way higher than this in some areas. Maybe if you're very fortunate with your geographical location it could be better. Paul B To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 12:38 PM Rely on my advice, or rain water? For those in hard water countries, you could distill the rain water. Smitty
Re: CSrain...
It is mostly distilled. But there are impurities in it. First of all the droplets initially form on a speck of dust, so every drop normally has a speck of dust in it. Second it picks up any acid forming compounds on the way down. If it is lightning then it picks up nitric and nitrous acids, and if you have any automobiles or coal fired plants around, it picks up sulfuric acid and sufurous acid. If there are any chemtrail, who know what it might be picking up there. Marshall Charles Sutton wrote: I thought rain was water distilled naturally..Most contains H2O2, but I'm curious now to have some tested. Depends on what you catch it with. Pure water (rain) picks up and dissolves a little bit of everything it comes in contact with. - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Re: CSrain... Jay, NO. Ole Bob Jay Ice wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
I've done so off a tin roof after it had rained for a while and it worked OK. Water tested good on a PWT. Someone pointed out the possibility of bird droppings and such. Best is to use a clean sheet of plastic to concentrate the rainfall and discard the first couple of containerfuls. It takes a bit of time for rain to wash the air. Other than that..should work. Easiest way to do that is to drive 4 stakes into the ground and suspend the plastic sheet by the corners with a hole in the center and the collection container under the hole. Ode At 12:02 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
It also depends on when you catch it and where. If it's been raining for several days and there has been little or no lightning to make nitric acid and your collection apparatus is clean...it might be OK. The store is a lot easier. ode At 09:31 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: I thought rain was water distilled naturally..Most contains H2O2, but I'm curious now to have some tested. Depends on what you catch it with. Pure water (rain) picks up and dissolves a little bit of everything it comes in contact with. - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Re: CSrain... Jay, NO. Ole Bob Jay Ice wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSrain...
It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
Jay, NO. Ole Bob Jay Ice wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
Yes, you can catch it in a cup. Jay Ice wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
Make sure it is not acid rain or full of other undesirable substances.
Re: CSrain...
Jay Ice 6/7/03 9:02 AM It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice * Jay if you are intent on producing crap, then just disregard what we have been telling you, try any source that you feel that none of us have ever considered. Then you will get a chance to tell all of us what YOU discovered. Hell we're all old so you should be able to do better because of your fresh outlook. SO, for the last time on this time-wasting subject: NO on well water NO on lake water NO on water from your family's Brita NO on rain water Now I promise that we won't have this discourse again Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
Well the last time I checked rain with the PWT it was 37.4, (the Chemtrailes?) I guess that is better than my tap water that is 41.0. My home DW is 0.8 on the high side sometimes down to 0.4. I sure like you Jay, you remind me of my youth when I went out with a blond that no mater what you told her it just wouldn't sink in. Read Jacks reply below and stop and think a minute. Nothing but DW. Sincerely Yours, Hank - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: CSrain... Jay Ice 6/7/03 9:02 AM It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice * Jay if you are intent on producing crap, then just disregard what we have been telling you, try any source that you feel that none of us have ever considered. Then you will get a chance to tell all of us what YOU discovered. Hell we're all old so you should be able to do better because of your fresh outlook. SO, for the last time on this time-wasting subject: NO on well water NO on lake water NO on water from your family's Brita NO on rain water Now I promise that we won't have this discourse again Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...
I thought rain was water distilled naturally..Most contains H2O2, but I'm curious now to have some tested. Depends on what you catch it with. Pure water (rain) picks up and dissolves a little bit of everything it comes in contact with. - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Re: CSrain... Jay, NO. Ole Bob Jay Ice wrote: It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...Jack
Time wasting. I'm just asking questions is all. If ya tell me not to, I won't. Experience has been my greatest teacher. The first reply I got was from Ole Boball he said was Jay, NO. So I ended that thought right there. But the thread continued... as they usually do. My intentions were not to produce crap. That's why I brought it up. I'm hard headed at times but not like a rock, more like a dry sponge I tend to soak up things here and there. : ) Why did you take the question in such a way? Ice Jay Ice 6/7/03 9:02 AM It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice * Jay if you are intent on producing crap, then just disregard what we have been telling you, try any source that you feel that none of us have ever considered. Then you will get a chance to tell all of us what YOU discovered. Hell we're all old so you should be able to do better because of your fresh outlook. SO, for the last time on this time-wasting subject: NO on well water NO on lake water NO on water from your family's Brita NO on rain water Now I promise that we won't have this discourse again Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSrain...Hank
Thanks. I think.. it didn't sink in yet. Ice I sure like you Jay, you remind me of my youth when I went out with a blond that no mater what you told her it just wouldn't sink in. Sincerely Yours, Hank - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: CSrain... Jay Ice 6/7/03 9:02 AM It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a cup and make CS with it? Ice * Jay if you are intent on producing crap, then just disregard what we have been telling you, try any source that you feel that none of us have ever considered. Then you will get a chance to tell all of us what YOU discovered. Hell we're all old so you should be able to do better because of your fresh outlook. SO, for the last time on this time-wasting subject: NO on well water NO on lake water NO on water from your family's Brita NO on rain water Now I promise that we won't have this discourse again Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRain-tree.com
Well, I second the motion. The article is fascinating, and the entire rain-tree site is worthwhile. MARIANO DELISE wrote: Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm it's quite an eye opener. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: FYI Alzheimer's disease is an auto immune disease caused by micoplasma. I know for a fact that CS helps MS, Lupus, Croans, fibromyalgia and many otherauto immune diseases caused by micoplasma. I think you are jumping the gun with this statement. For instance, Using PCR and genetic probes, it has been demonstrateed that between 30 and 35% of CFS patients and 4 to 8% of healthy controls carry the Mycoplasma fermentans genome in their peripheral blood mononuclear cells. This does not account for the other 65-70% of people diagnosed as having CFS. It would probably be more accurate to see mycoplasma as opportunistic bacteria that takes advantage of the body being in a weakened state. It may serve as a cofactor in the induction of cytokines and other immune abnormalities found in CFS, but is by no means the cause of CFS. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRain soft water........
Hello all, I have an off-topic question for you. Are any of you familiar with rain soft water filtration and softening system? www.rainsoft.com . A friend of mine has a daughter with severe excema and icthyosis vulgaris, and is interested in ordering this system to be installed in her house so her water is kinder to her daughters skin. This units cost $3,800.00. What is your opinion..I just love to pick all your brilliant minds. You can email me offlist with the info so we don't clog up the list. Thanks so much. God Bless, Christiane
CSrain water from thunder storm??????
In a message dated 09/04/2000 7:19:21 AM Romance Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: I would LOVE to see this expanded to include structured water. Healers hands, homeopathy, rain water from a thunderstorm, Flanagan (I think he's a phoney, but I'm a minority), etc... Chuck, I agree! Tell me more, especially about rain water from a thunder storm, by private email, or the list, which ever is considered appropriate. Karen fernwo...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
