Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Marshall, I let mine stand for 45 minutes, is that too long? And I don't always use it right away. Is that ok? Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Marshall or anyone, A couple of more questions.someone told me that the CS that you make yourself was not any good. Now, abviously there is quite a question there because everyone on this list seems to make their own. I am not at all familiar with the process involved in making CS, so please excuse my ignorance. But is it possible to make it incorrectly? As I understand there is a machine that you can buy to make CS for about $50, is that correct? Someone had mentioned making your own machine??? How is that done and where would one get the materials and (ingredient) to make the CS? Thank you for your time and patience Sarah -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 2:08 PM Subject: Re: CSwhere to get CS?? For the most part you can expect to get an inferior product at exhorbitat prices at most health food stores. Either make it yourself or purchase high quality product from cspro.com or silver-lightning.com or another known good source of product. Marshall Sarah Unger wrote: Where would I be able to purchase CS?? Would it be available at most health food stores? Thanks Sarah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Marshall or anyone, I'm not Marshall, but I qualify as anyone, so here goes. ;-) ignorance. But is it possible to make it incorrectly? Probably. I use steam-distilled water so as to be as sure as I can be that there is nothing in the water *but* my silver wires. I want colloidal silver, not colloidal anything else. I make it in a glass jar, because I don't want any outgassing from a plastic container. I use a jar that is dedicated *specifically* to CS production, again because I don't want anything but silver in there. Silver is photoreactive, so brewing it on a sunny window-sill is not a real wise maneuver. I made some CS once that came out looking like syrup - a very heavy dark brownish color. I didn't trust that one so I got rid of it. As I understand there is a machine that you can buy to make CS for about $50, is that correct? No idea, I built my own. Someone had mentioned making your own machine??? How is that done and where would one get the materials and (ingredient) to make the CS? Bruce Stenulson has an excellent set of plans posted on his website for a device that functions as a CS generator and as a fixed-frequency zapper. (for more info, check out his site as listed in the list's FAQ - don't have the FAQ? visit the Alternative Health section of my website, url in sig below) What *I* did (and am using until I get around to building a Bruce Special) was to tape and connect 4 9v batteries together (in series - this pos to the next neg)and attach an alligator clip to the end terminals. On the recommendation of several people on this list, I added a couple of lightbulbs in on the red wire (as a current limiter, I believe it was). The alligator clips connect directly to two pieces of silver wire. I got them from a fellow list-member, but you can get the wire from any jewelry supply house. For example: Here you are: it is the Hauser and Miller Co. in St. Louis: 1-800-462-7747. 12 feet of 14 gauge .999 silver, 2.5 oz for 25.00 plus tax and shipping. That's the info my source gave me for more wire (or for large quantities!). I use a pair of wires about 6 long each. They've lasted me (us - a family of 4 plus making some for family and friends) over a year with no signs of slowing down any time soon. 12 feet is enough for 12 generators or generator replacements - over 12 years of CS production, if my usage rate is any indicator. Rejoice in the small steps!! Michael firew...@juno.com webMaster of The Outlands WebStead at: http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands and lord of Far Reaches Cot-hold ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Hello Sarah, A couple of more questions.someone told me that the CS that you make yourself was not any good. Now, abviously there is quite a question there because everyone on this list seems to make their own. The stuff I am making is as good as what I was shelling out large quantites of cash for :-). Truthfully I do not know what the PPM value is, but it tastes like the commericial stuff to me :-). I am not at all familiar with the process involved in making CS, so please excuse my ignorance. grin we all started here, not a problem! There are many patient and helpful people with experience here who are glad to share. But is it possible to make it incorrectly? I am sure that there is a way to make it incorrectly, but if I pay attention to (in my case) the time and current flow, the CS seems to be consistant (taste wise - I don't have a way to meter it accurately yet). Once I got distracted and left it run overnight, it was pretty obvious from looking at the glass, that was the only stuff I have thrown out so far. I'll leave someone else to comment about this in detail. As I understand there is a machine that you can buy to make CS for about $50, is that correct? Yes, there seems to be quite a range of price for these, many ways to do it and many claims to each method. I'm still undecided as to what is ultimately the best method, but people seem to be using the most basic LVDC (Low Voltage Direct Current) method with great success. Someone had mentioned making your own machine??? How is that done and where would one get the materials and (ingredient) to make the CS? For the LVDC method, it is pretty easy, three 9V batteries and a couple of alligator clips and two pieces of .999 fine or better silver wire and you are off to the races :-). This is what I first built and it worked fine. 9V batteries aren't cheap, so I have upgraded to a power supply that plugs in the wall. I am still questing to find the best way to do it and about to try LVAC (?) Low Voltage Alternating Current - using solid state parts - with an H-Bridge and a small (very!) computer. Apparently many ways to go here and to be honest, I am too new to this to know if it is actually *really* necessary to go beyond the basics, but I also like to tinker :-) :-). Mostly what I want is something that I can set time on and eventually *maybe* correlate that to a given PPM and then turn off. This is my big problem at the moment, I have other things happening and I forget it and end up with pretty strong stuff - not bad, just not consumable, but good for topical applications with the exception of the one I left running all night (overnight). Most of the parts can be found almost anywhere. The one critical element, of course, is the .999 fine or better silver electrodes. I am using .040 wire that I got from a jewelry supply store, but there is someone here on the list who has some and will (has?) parted with it for cost. For whatever it may be worth, it seems to me that what I am making for fractions of a cent (at very least a gallon so far) is every bit as good as the stuff I paid $40 for a tiny bottle of. Thank you for your time and patience Hope this helps! As has been given to me by the list members (information and encouragement) so I try to return the same when I can :-)! Take care, Vikki. -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Sarah Unger wrote: Marshall or anyone, A couple of more questions.someone told me that the CS that you make yourself was not any good. Now, abviously there is quite a question there because everyone on this list seems to make their own. I am not at all familiar with the process involved in making CS, so please excuse my ignorance. But is it possible to make it incorrectly? As I understand there is a machine that you can buy to make CS for about $50, is that correct? Someone had mentioned making your own machine??? How is that done and where would one get the materials and (ingredient) to make the CS? Thank you for your time and patience My opinion is that homemade CS is not as consistant as CS purchased from a reliable source. If made with room temperature distilled water, and not allowed to go too long it is fine. You may find that it does not have the stability of HVAC CS, but if you use it immediately it should be ok. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
SU Where would I be able to purchase CS?? Would it be available at most health SU food stores? SU Thanks SU Sarah Sarah, I wouldn't ingest any CS except what I made myself. Why pay $15 to $50 an ounce for unknown and possibly toxic stuff when you can make your own forever with a $15 investment in parts and a little soldering? And even if you make bad CS, if you use .999 silver and distilled water in a glass or hard plastic container, you'll at least know it contains no other metals. Even if you spend $100 or more for one of the fancy cs generators, it'll pay for itself with the first 1-quart batch. Best regards, Sammailto:sear...@ix.netcom.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
I am so sorry Marshall, for the loss of your mother, at the hands of beaurocratic incompetinence. Carmen - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:57 AM Subject: Re: CSwhere to get CS?? For the most part you can expect to get an inferior product at exhorbitat prices at most health food stores. Either make it yourself or purchase high quality product from cspro.com or silver-lightning.com or another known good source of product. Marshall Sarah Unger wrote: Where would I be able to purchase CS?? Would it be available at most health food stores? Thanks Sarah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
