Re: Darkfield microscopy

1998-08-03 Thread Reid Smith
>>One thing that is possable is checking the sizes of particals with the
>>darkfield. If we want a uniform size partical and if it is viewed to be
>>many different sizes under the darkfield then we know that something
>>has to be changed. If we know that we need .001 and we know that it's
>>not possable to see .001 under the m-scope but we see particals then
>>we know that they aren't .001. So we take a picture filter and look again.

>Good point.  If you have a filter that that cuts off at say 0.05 microns,
>then you should filter out all particles that are resolvable in the
>microscope.  However, you have to make sure you are not also filtering out
>smaller particles as well.  Since the CS particles are charged, you must
>insure that they are not retained on the filter due to the charge, only due
>to their size.  
>I think someone already talked about this.  The CS particles carry a positive 
>charge, correct? Then you must insure that the filter does not carry a
negative 
>charge since opposite charges attract.

   CS, Paper and wood are also a positive charge so they wouldn't nutralize
the CS if it was ran through them. So that should be a good start. 

>> Now here's something else to consider. What would happen if a person
>>used inferred light? What would happen to the ability to view partical size
>>then?
>I think you are referring to infrared light, correct (I always have to look
>this word up myself because I have a hard time remembering how to spell it)?
  
   Yep, I suck at spelling. 


   Thanks for that info.
Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Darkfield microscopy

1998-08-03 Thread Reid Smith
>Darkfield microscopy is accomplished by using a special condenser.  The
>condenser delivers a hollow cone of light with the tip of the cone focused
>on the specimen.  The angle of the light rays is such that all of the light
>misses the microscope objective, thus causing a dark field of view.
>However, a specimen can refract or reflect some of the impinging light and
>divert it into the microscope objective.  Therefore, objects in the specimen
>appear to be bright against a dark background.
>With this type of specimen illumination it is possible to detect objects
>even when they are smaller than the resolution limit of the microscope.
>However, this does not mean that you can measure their size, at least not
>directly.

   One thing that is possable is checking the sizes of particals with the
darkfield. If we want a uniform size partical and if it is viewed to be 
many different sizes under the darkfield then we know that something
has to be changed. If we know that we need .001 and we know that it's
not possable to see .001 under the m-scope but we see particals then
we know that they aren't .001. So we take a picture filter and look again.

   Now here's something else to consider. What would happen if a person 
used inferred light? What would happen to the ability to view partical size
then?


Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Darkfield microscopy

1998-08-02 Thread Jeffrey La Favre
>One thing that is possable is checking the sizes of particals with the
>darkfield. If we want a uniform size partical and if it is viewed to be
>many different sizes under the darkfield then we know that something
>has to be changed. If we know that we need .001 and we know that it's
>not possable to see .001 under the m-scope but we see particals then
>we know that they aren't .001. So we take a picture filter and look again.

Good point.  If you have a filter that that cuts off at say 0.05 microns,
then you should filter out all particles that are resolvable in the
microscope.  However, you have to make sure you are not also filtering out
smaller particles as well.  Since the CS particles are charged, you must
insure that they are not retained on the filter due to the charge, only due
to their size.  I think someone already talked about this.  The CS particles
carry a positive charge, correct? Then you must insure that the filter does
not carry a negative charge since opposite charges attract.

> Now here's something else to consider. What would happen if a person
>used inferred light? What would happen to the ability to view partical size
>then?

I think you are referring to infrared light, correct (I always have to look
this word up myself because I have a hard time remembering how to spell it)?
This is light that can't be seen by the human eye.  Furthermore, infrared
light has longer wavelengths that visible light.  Therefore, if you built a
special microscope to view with infrared, assuming you had something like a
night vision scope to visualize the infrared light, the microscope would not
resolve particles as small as those which can be resolved in a standard
light microscope.  The shorter the wavelength of light, the better the
resolution.  It is unfortunate that our eyes can't see in the ultraviolet
region of the spectrum.  Then we could build light microscopes with higher
resolution capabilities.  In fact, ultraviolet light is used for
fluorescence microscopy.  In this case you use a special stain on the
specimen that will fluoresce with visible light when illuminated with UV.
In order to make this work, your condenser must be made from quartz
(expensive) because glass absorbs UV (that is why you don't get sunburned
when driving in a car all day even if the sun shines on your skin through
the windows).

Jeff La Favre


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Darkfield microscopy

1998-07-31 Thread Jeffrey La Favre
Here is a response to questions by Johan and Jim.

Darkfield microscopy is accomplished by using a special condenser.  The
condenser delivers a hollow cone of light with the tip of the cone focused
on the specimen.  The angle of the light rays is such that all of the light
misses the microscope objective, thus causing a dark field of view.
However, a specimen can refract or reflect some of the impinging light and
divert it into the microscope objective.  Therefore, objects in the specimen
appear to be bright against a dark background.

With this type of specimen illumination it is possible to detect objects
even when they are smaller than the resolution limit of the microscope.
However, this does not mean that you can measure their size, at least not
directly.

A similar situation is known in astronomy.  When you look at the stars at
night with the naked eye, they appear as pin points of light.  Because of
their vast distance, the diameters of stars can't be resolved by the naked
eye.  In fact, even when one observes the stars with the most powerful
telescopes on Earth, they still look like pin points of light because their
diameters are too small to be resolved!!!  Nevertheless, the stars are seen
easily, we just can't see their shape or measure their diameters (although
astronomers have special techniques to measure the diameter of stars).

Here is an example that most of us have seen.  Early during the day, or late
in the day, when the sun shines through a window, it is easy to see dust
floating in the air.  These particles are much too small to be resolved by
the naked eye, yet we can see them.  The operating principle in this case is
similar to the darkfield microscope.

So the question is, can you measure a smaller particle size with darkfield
illumination than brightfield?  Perhaps you could push the theoretical
resolution limit slightly with darkfield.  Suppose you could measure a
particle with a 0.1 micron diameter using darkfield compared to 0.2 micron
with brightfield.  Will this help our research significantly?  I don't think
so but correct me if I am wrong.

But there is one thought I had.  Perhaps one could estimate the relative
size of CS particles in a darkfield according to how bright they appear.  If
the amount of light diverted by a CS particle is proportional to its size,
then larger particles should appear brighter in the field than smaller
particles.

To do darkfield work you need to pay attention to the numerical apertures of
the condenser and objective.  The numerical aperture should be stamped on
the body of the condenser and the barrel of the objective.  For example, an
Abbe condenser (for brightfield work) typically has a numerical aperture of
1.25.  This is a measure of the cone of light it will deliver to the
specimen.  The numerical aperture of the objective is a measure of the cone
of light that it will accept from the specimen. A typical achromat objective
of 100 power (oil immersion) will have a numerical aperture of 1.25, a high
dry objective of 40 power will have a numerical aperture of about 0.65.

You also need to have some understanding about the refractive indices of
different materials.  Air has a refractive index of 1.0, water 1.33, glass
1.5.  If you want to use the full numerical aperture of an Abbe condenser,
it is necessary to apply immersion oil between the condenser and the bottom
of the specimen slide.  Without the oil, you limit the numerical aperture to
just below 1.0 because the refractive index of air is 1.0 (i.e., light rays
of a greater angle will be reflected at the glass to air interface and not
proceed into the specimen).

My darkfield condenser has a numerical aperture of 1.33.  The cutoff for the
inner surface of the hollow cone of light it delivers is 1.2 (condenser is
stamped with  1.33 - 1.2).  Therefore, this condenser would be totally
useless if it is not oiled to the slide (or one could use water since it has
a refractive index the same as the NA of this condenser). If you don't oil
this condenser to the bottom of the slide, all of the light from the
condenser will be reflected off the glass-air interface and none will reach
the specimen.

Now if I want to use my high power objective with this condenser, I have a
problem.  Some of the light from my condenser will enter the objective
because it has a higher NA (1.25) than the inner cutoff of the condenser
(1.2).  In order to overcome this problem, my objective is fitted with an
adjustable iris (like in a 35 mm camera) which can be used to stop down the
objective (i.e., reduce the NA).  Then the iris is stopped down just until
the field becomes dark.  At this point I have maximum resolution with a dark
background.

What if you don't have an iris in your high power immersion objective?  If
it has a higher NA than the cutoff of your condenser you have a problem.
You could try to fashion a stop to insert inside your objective but I would
not recommend doing this.  In th