Re: CISCO

1998-07-25 Thread bjs1779
vibrnthealth wrote:
> 
> Daniel Holly wrote:
> >
> > I too agree.
> > Accelerate the workings of KarmaWow 
> > , I hope I can say Wow again , just because an idea doesn't work
> as fast as one would want don't destroy intention . Positive advice
> might be given to Cisco. Intention is like prayer it has positive
> results. Dave T.

Tough to get good fruit out of a bad tree. 
bjs


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-25 Thread Daniel Holly
I too agree.
Accelerate the workings of Karma
Go to the local Mafia there in Guam and pay the RIGHT person
a thousand or so to force Cisco the rip-off artist to surrender title
to the boat. Reach the *wife* and she will squeal on Cicso and spill the
beans.
Don't forget that Guam is third world and that there are plenty of
thugs who will do your work for you at the right price.

The boat can be sold and some of the money recovered.
The boat does not seem to be  a 27,000$ boat.My guess is that
6,000$ was spent on the boat and Cisco squandered or more likely
still has the rest of the dough.
Probably in real estate..check out deeds in his and wife's name.
He put on an act of being out of money
because he knew word would get back to Rifers in the USA and world
of a boat that needed repair and a poor Cisco and wife..
[who somehow have enough
$$$ to drink lousy overpriced beer all the live long day.]
He sound like a former doper who now drinks instead but remembered
his old doper scams and rip offs.


My guess is that other locals have been screwed by Cisco and that
he has a bad reputation.

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Paul Bass 
To: rife-l...@eskimo.com ; Tom McCoy

Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco

>Tom,
> I agree.
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom McCoy 
>To: rife-l...@eskimo.com 
>Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 2:17 AM
>Subject: Re: Cisco
>
>
>>Reid,
>>
>>Oh...  Don't get me wrong, of course I would NEVER advocate any type of
>>violence or revenge... on behalf of John to a man who hustled him out of
>>his savings to be used to help other terminally ill people isolated of
>>islands without modern medical facilities.  And why shouldn't Cisco enjoy
>>himself guzzling a couple hundred bucks worth of beer a week while
relaxing
>>on his new boat...  I'm just saying that no one is untouchable and folks
>>who pray on generous folks in such a way are lower then pond scum in my
>>eyes and ultimately (one would hope) get theirs one way or another.
>>Personally, I "might" consider helping karma along just a tad bit since I
>>don't feel pond scum really deserves to enjoy themselves with MY MONEY.
>>Such a reaction might be considered somewhat excessive in some peoples
eyes
>>but in mine, it's simply TAKING OUT THE TRASH!
>>
>>At 08:20 PM 7/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>List,
>>>>So, enough of the guess work already, lets hear about this lifestyle.
>I'd
>>>>like to hear about what kind of fun can be had with a boat like he has
>out
>>>>there somewhere in the South Pacific.  Maybe the guy from TN. should
just
>>>>blow/invest another couple of grand and go down there and visit his
>money.
>>>>The vacation might do him some good and, if he and Cisco don't get along
>he
>>>>could just TOSS the good Cisco overboard and sell off the boat to the
>local
>>>>pirates.  Surely a good ol'e boy from TN should know how to make the
best
>>>>of a situation like this one if ya get my drift (pardon the pun).
>>>
>>>   I doubt if Johnny would be able to do that right now. His wife just
>>>had to have a complete knee replacment and he's taking care of her.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Take Care
>>>
>>>Reid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Tom  McCoyKN6KK
>>Symation Technologies
>>
>



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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread Reid Smith
>Lists and Reid -
>The email address I have for Cisco is ci...@iftech.net
>So who is gonna be the one to blow the lid off this can of worms?
>Fidget

   I tryed the e-mail addresses and they've all bounced. I've still
got his postal address and will drop him a line that way.



Take Care 

Reid



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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread bjs1779
brains wrote:
> 
> well Dan I dont get a reply on that one .
> 
> The original message was received at Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:48:35 +0930
> from c2-p27.senet.com.au [203.56.237.92]
> 
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> 
>>

Try
ci...@millertime.con


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread Fidget
> >Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
> >My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
> >me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person.  Let me
> >tell you why...
> >First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
> >found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
> >dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
> >with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
> >different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
> >send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
> >the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
> >any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
> >Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
> >difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
> >post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).
> 
> >One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
> >Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
> >have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
> >off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
> >Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
> >maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
> >My .02
> 
> Fidget;
> 
>   Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny
> said BUT I find it even "harder" not to believe Johnny would say something
> like that with out good cause.
> 
>I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net.
> He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
> anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
> if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.
> 
>So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
> comments on what is going on?
> 
> Take Care
> 
> Reid



Lists and Reid -

The email address I have for Cisco is ci...@iftech.net

So who is gonna be the one to blow the lid off this can of worms?

Fidget


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread Daniel Holly
Yes.
He ca be reached at:
ci...@budweiser.com


Dan


==


-Original Message-
From: Reid Smith 

>
>   So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
>comments on what is going on? 
>
>
>
>Take Care 
>
>Reid
>
>


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread brains
Reid Smith wrote:

> >> Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
> >> Subject: The Real Cisco or " Fredrick Botten " of Guam
> >> The all concerned.
> >> The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago.
> It
> >> concerns Rick " Cisco " and his way of life. If you are so incline
> to
> >> donate anything for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I
> have
> >> talked with Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit
> Cisco.
> >> After the phone call it was evident I am a fool. The following is
> to let
> >> you know what has transpired in the last few months between Cisco
> and I.
> >> There is only one reason I would announce being so foolish to the
> world.
> >> This is keep it from happening to anyone else.
> >> *
>
> >Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
> >My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult
> for
> >me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person.  Let
> me
> >tell you why...
> >First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
> >found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice
> versa,
> >dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
> >with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
> >different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
> >send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done
> around
> >the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has
> had
> >any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
> >Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made
> it
> >difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in
> this
> >post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).
>
> >One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
> >Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of
> people
> >have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
>
> >off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
> >Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might
> be,
> >maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
> >My .02
>
> Fidget;
>
>   Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny
>
> said BUT I find it even "harder" not to believe Johnny would say
> something
> like that with out good cause.
>
>I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net.
>
> He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
> anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
> if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.
>
>So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
> comments on what is going on?
>
> Take Care
>
> Reid
>
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  Reid I have been emailing him for a month or more via his daughter and
had two replies saying all is well ...but nothing personally
...

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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread Reid Smith
>> Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
>> Subject: The Real Cisco or " Fredrick Botten " of Guam
>> The all concerned.
>> The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It
>> concerns Rick " Cisco " and his way of life. If you are so incline to 
>> donate anything for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have 
>> talked with Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. 
>> After the phone call it was evident I am a fool. The following is to let 
>> you know what has transpired in the last few months between Cisco and I. 
>> There is only one reason I would announce being so foolish to the world. 
>> This is keep it from happening to anyone else.
>> *

>Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
>My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
>me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person.  Let me
>tell you why...
>First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
>found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
>dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
>with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
>different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
>send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
>the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
>any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
>Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
>difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
>post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).

>One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
>Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
>have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
>off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
>Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
>maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
>My .02

Fidget;

  Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny
said BUT I find it even "harder" not to believe Johnny would say something
like that with out good cause. 

   I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net. 
He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.

   So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
comments on what is going on? 



Take Care 

Reid



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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread bjs1779
Fidget wrote:
> 

> > *
> 
> Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
> 
> My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
> me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person.  Let me
> tell you why...

The man has come to a conclusion and admitted to the world he is
a "fool". The only other alternative to this is that he is even a
bigger fool if he is wrong. This would be easy to "spin" so we may
not know for awhile. 
bjs


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread M. G. Devour
I don't know anything about Cisco except what we've seen on the list
and a few private e-mails. What does this message represent in terms
of truth? It is no more than characters on a screen to most of us 
and we have no way to know.

In Cisco's case, I see an example of how easy it would be to create a
charismatic online persona and lead people to whatever beliefs you 
want them to have. I also see how easy it would be to destroy the 
reputation of an innocent person. It can also be a case of dedicated 
but not-so-innocent people running afoul of their own weaknesses.

Which is it? I don't pretend to know.

Whether Cisco has done what he claims to have, or what he's accused 
of, that work is (or would be) valuable. Someone should be doing it. 

There will probably be answering messages and people will be tempted
to argue. I don't want a brouhaha over this. By all means let's talk
it over and learn from it, but let's stay on target. 

Mike D.

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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread Fidget
brains wrote:
> 
> Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
> 
> Subject: The Real Cisco or " Fredrick Botten " of Guam
>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:40:06 +
>From: Johnny Burton 
>  To: Rifers 
> 
> The all concerned.
> The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It
> concerns Rick
> " Cisco " and his way of life. If you are so incline to donate anything
> for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have talked with
> Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. After the
> phone call it was evident I am a
> fool. The following is to let you know what has transpired in the last
> few months between Cisco and I. There is only one reason I would
> announce being so foolish to the world. This is keep it from happening
> to anyone else.
> 
> *


Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --

My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person.  Let me
tell you why...

First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.

Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).

One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.

Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
maybe we should consider if he is still alive?

My .02

Fidget


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RE: CISCO

1998-05-06 Thread Dean Woodward
To Cisco: Greetings Mac!

Drop a note to another ex-Gyrene (2d Mar Div, WWII - Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian,
Okinawa).

Semper Fi:

Dean Woodward

-Original Message-
From:   brains [mailto:bra...@senet.com.au]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 05, 1998 7:05 AM
To: silverlist
Subject:CISCO

Ok g'day list ...
Cisco is an exmarine who lives on Guam and had a melanoma which
metastasized to his liver . in most cases a death sentence ...well
he was told he had 6 months to live 2 years ago so he got on to a Rife
unit and used it also began using CS and having overcome his problem and
knowing that there is a lot of people hurting out there he is helping
all those he can with  the Bare/rife unit, colloidal silver and anything
he can use.. they had a Metussis (whooping cough) outbreak on Guam
and that is why Cisco needed to make gallons of CS .. and it saved
lives ..they lost a few but saved alot  better odds than the medicos
(I am biased)he also has been to some of the local islands with his CS
and there is a Rife unit on an island that Cisco arranged for them as
the "third world people " don't have access to the facilities that you
and I have ... there is a lot more to Cisco but to tell all would
cause problems for him and some others he helps elsewhere... so he has a
big heart and uses it for good .
  hope this helps some 


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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-06 Thread Susan M. Yensen

Cisco is my friend of a year or so now. He's a great guy to talk with and
good to help out with the questions I have re Rife.  Makes massive amounts
of CS for large things like wells and stuff.  No medical care there,.
Noone could afford it if there were.  Hi Cisco if you see this1

Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer
Susan



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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-05 Thread M. G. Devour
On  5 May 98 at 19:19, Brian wrote:

> G'day Mike  . what would you like to know  .. I speak with
> Cisco almost every night  ..

A  couple of messages from/about him were forwarded to the list. He
sounded interesting. I'd never heard of him before though it seemed
he was well known. Thought it might be good to know his background.

A couple of folks have responded off-list, and I now have an idea of 
where he's at and what kind of efforts he's a part of. Sounds like a 
good gent to know.

If you'd like to give a non-intrusive sketch of the man and his 
situation for the benefit of others on the list who don't know him, 
that would be really nice. He's really demonstrating the value of CS 
in a survivalist or third world type scenario.

Thanks,

Mike D.

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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-05 Thread brains
M. G. Devour wrote:
> 
> Can you provide any biographical info on this Cisco person? It seems
> they have an interesting place in the world and are using CS to good
> advantage.
> 
> The postings prove you can do just about anything sensible and still
> make decent CS.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike
> 
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G'day Mike  . what would you like to know  .. I speak with
Ciksco almost every night  ..


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