RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees
Gladys, The reference to asthma came from the patent I provided the link to. But I am not personally familiar with the use of ants. Perhaps Rowena can provide some info on the use of ant tinctures, etc. I might caution that some cases of ant bites have triggered an asthma attack and so I would be cautious in using an ant tincture. Here is some additional info from the patent: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4247540/description.html " The extract is obtained by crushing the abdomen of the ant. The crushed abdomen are then mixed with an aqueous solvent and the resulting solution filtered, purified, and adjusted to provide a concentration effective for injection into a patient. The extract containing the therapeutic agent is injected subcutaneously into the patient wherein, apparently without significant side effects, it causes remission of arthritic symptoms and appears to significantly decrease the RA factor (measure of an antibody normally associated with rheumatoid arthritis). Similar treatment will also cause remission of symptoms for asthma." " In one method that has been used to make an appropriate composition for injecting into a patient, the abdomens are separated from the ants. The abdomen contains the venom sac. A fixed number of separated abdomens are then macerated (stirred, squeezed and crushed) in saline physiological solution to dissolve the soluble parts in the physiological solution. The mixture is then filtered, removing all insoluble constituents. The result is a solution of portions of the venom and other abdominal juices which are soluble in physiological solution. More specifically, a presently preferred mode of preparing an effective agent involves the following steps: (1) the dissected abdomens are macerated in a saline physiological solution, (2) the result is filtered through a No. 1 gauge filter and the filter is worked three times with physiological solution, (3) the result is diluted with saline physiological solution to a concentration equivalent to the venom from ten ants in one cubic centimeter of solution ..." "In an initial series of tests, the injections generally started with an amount of solution containing the venom provided by 0.5 ants. Such an amount is called herein 0.5 UF. Doses were given daily to step the amount up over a period of about ten days to a level where doses are equal to the venom from approximately five to ten ants." "Note: It was observed that patients suffering from asthma experienced a remission of symptoms coincidently with their treatment with the Therapeutic Agent. Thirteen patients exhibiting symptoms of asthma were treated with injections as described herein. Eleven showed marked improvement." The following is a recipe for an ant tincture from http://www.henriettesherbal.com/ " Formica rufa, Linné, Red ant.-This insect, which contains formic acid, and from which the latter was first isolated, enters into some European pharmaceutical preparations. Thus the German Pharmacopoeia has Spiritus Formicarum: Alcohol 70, water 26, and formic acid 4 parts. Mix. Dose, 20 to 60 drops. It forms an acid liquid without color. A Tinctura Formicarum is made by taking alcohol 3 parts, and fresh, bruised red ants 2 parts. Digest. This produces a tincture having a brown color. Baths prepared by adding to the water a decoction of red ants was once used in rheumatic and gouty complaints. The spiritus formicarum is employed in Germany internally and locally in paralytic and other nervous disorders." I found information that some Chinese, Korean and South American ants have been shown to be effective but I don't know which if any North American ants can be used. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Gladys Williams [mailto:gwms...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees Blessings of Good health and prosperity for all. Maybe I'm a little dense here --but are you saying we can drink mashed ants to get rid of asthma Has this worked for anyone??? My grandson is only a year old and has been hospitalized 4 times with serious, serious, Asthma. Although I don't relish the thought of him drinking ant toes, ears, and elbows, if it works so be it. Gladys -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees Interesting about the ants. To use them in a tonic would you need to gut and clean them first? Now where is the comic book with the ant farm advertisement? :-) The Chinese may have discovered it hundreds of years ago but there is a patent on it with South American ants: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4247540/description.html >From the patent; "
RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees
Blessings of Good health and prosperity for all. Maybe I'm a little dense here --but are you saying we can drink mashed ants to get rid of asthma Has this worked for anyone??? My grandson is only a year old and has been hospitalized 4 times with serious, serious, Asthma. Although I don't relish the thought of him drinking ant toes, ears, and elbows, if it works so be it. Gladys -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees Interesting about the ants. To use them in a tonic would you need to gut and clean them first? Now where is the comic book with the ant farm advertisement? :-) The Chinese may have discovered it hundreds of years ago but there is a patent on it with South American ants: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4247540/description.html >From the patent; "This invention relates in general to a composition and method for relieving the symptoms of such auto-immune ailments as rheumatoid arthritis or asthma and, more particularly, to a composition that can be injected into a person who suffers from such with the result that, without apparent significant side effects, there is material and significant remission of symptoms. The nature of rheumatoid arthritis and asthma are such that one familiar with them would be led to conclude that other auto-immune ailments which also involve symptomatic inflammation of tissues will also respond to treatment according to the present invention: multiple sclerosis (nerve tissue), lupus erythematosus (kidneys), sclerodermata (skin), arteritis, and other somewhat rare ailments classified as connective tissue diseases, or immune complex diseases." The bee info is also very interesting. I will be looking more into both of them. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Rowena [mailto:new...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Spinal Arthritis You could google arthritis and ants or bees. Very interesting information out there. Rowena Several varieties of ants are used in Chinese Tonic herbalism, all with virtually the same attributes. These different varieties come from different regions in China. Each region claims that its ants are superior. Both black ants (primarily from southern and central China) and red ants (primarily from northeastern China) are used. Ants from high, pristine mountain ranges such as the Himalayas in southern China and Tibet, or the Changbai Mountains in northeastern China are considered the finest and most potent. Most of the tonic ants are large ants. A primary concern in using ant as a tonic supplement is that the ants or ant product is from a reputable company that specializes in ant tonic preparation. The ants must be collected from, or raised in, a pure, pristine environment. Certainly, using ants that have been exposed to Raid is not a good idea. In other words, it is not a good idea to try collecting your own from the basement or back yard. The ants used in Chinese Tonic supplements are raised in sealed ant farms and are absolutely chemical free. Ant is rare in raw form in the United States, but is extremely valuable if you can obtain it. It should be light in weight, dark and consistent in color, and fluffy, with no obvious impurities, degradation or discoloration. Most sources of ant as a tonic supplement will be ant products made by a number of ant specialty houses out of China. Ant tonics come in both capsules and oral liquid elixirs. At this writing all the ant products I have tested have been excellent and have met my every expectation. The ant industry is extremely heavily regulated in China and there is no indication that less than quality ant products are now being produced in mainland China. Ant has a bipolar (double-direction) immuno-regulatory activity. It thus fortifies a weakened immune system and modifies an overactive immune system. Ant can have a very beneficial effect on autoimmune disorders such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, gouty arthritis, alkolyzing spondylitis, scleroderma, psoriasis, and some studies indicate significant tumor reducing effects when ant is consumed in therapeutic dosages. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Spinal Arthritis - ants and bees
Interesting about the ants. To use them in a tonic would you need to gut and clean them first? Now where is the comic book with the ant farm advertisement? :-) The Chinese may have discovered it hundreds of years ago but there is a patent on it with South American ants: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4247540/description.html >From the patent; "This invention relates in general to a composition and method for relieving the symptoms of such auto-immune ailments as rheumatoid arthritis or asthma and, more particularly, to a composition that can be injected into a person who suffers from such with the result that, without apparent significant side effects, there is material and significant remission of symptoms. The nature of rheumatoid arthritis and asthma are such that one familiar with them would be led to conclude that other auto-immune ailments which also involve symptomatic inflammation of tissues will also respond to treatment according to the present invention: multiple sclerosis (nerve tissue), lupus erythematosus (kidneys), sclerodermata (skin), arteritis, and other somewhat rare ailments classified as connective tissue diseases, or immune complex diseases." The bee info is also very interesting. I will be looking more into both of them. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Rowena [mailto:new...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Spinal Arthritis You could google arthritis and ants or bees. Very interesting information out there. Rowena Several varieties of ants are used in Chinese Tonic herbalism, all with virtually the same attributes. These different varieties come from different regions in China. Each region claims that its ants are superior. Both black ants (primarily from southern and central China) and red ants (primarily from northeastern China) are used. Ants from high, pristine mountain ranges such as the Himalayas in southern China and Tibet, or the Changbai Mountains in northeastern China are considered the finest and most potent. Most of the tonic ants are large ants. A primary concern in using ant as a tonic supplement is that the ants or ant product is from a reputable company that specializes in ant tonic preparation. The ants must be collected from, or raised in, a pure, pristine environment. Certainly, using ants that have been exposed to Raid is not a good idea. In other words, it is not a good idea to try collecting your own from the basement or back yard. The ants used in Chinese Tonic supplements are raised in sealed ant farms and are absolutely chemical free. Ant is rare in raw form in the United States, but is extremely valuable if you can obtain it. It should be light in weight, dark and consistent in color, and fluffy, with no obvious impurities, degradation or discoloration. Most sources of ant as a tonic supplement will be ant products made by a number of ant specialty houses out of China. Ant tonics come in both capsules and oral liquid elixirs. At this writing all the ant products I have tested have been excellent and have met my every expectation. The ant industry is extremely heavily regulated in China and there is no indication that less than quality ant products are now being produced in mainland China. Ant has a bipolar (double-direction) immuno-regulatory activity. It thus fortifies a weakened immune system and modifies an overactive immune system. Ant can have a very beneficial effect on autoimmune disorders such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, gouty arthritis, alkolyzing spondylitis, scleroderma, psoriasis, and some studies indicate significant tumor reducing effects when ant is consumed in therapeutic dosages. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
