Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
In a message dated 7/20/2001 10:41:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gw...@juno.com writes: Subj:Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date:7/20/2001 10:41:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams) Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A To:silver-list@eskimo.com Okay what is the next step? Gladys Gladys: Tell Ole Bob (bober...@swbell.net) that you want to participate in the Gatorade/CS Test, and give him your address so you can receive 2 liters of the CS Test Solution. Thanks. Roger
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
Okay what is the next step? Gladys On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:18:24 EDT rogalt...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST, gw...@juno.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date: 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST From: gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make CS as yet. Gladys Gladys: Thanks for volunteering. I just completed an abstract which I've included below. In a separate email, I'll send you additional material that you'll be needing. Please read it thoroughly before make your final decision to become part of the test group. Thanks again. Roger Dr. Roger Altman, President of Reclamation Research, Natural Bridge, NY [Reclamation Research, RR1 Box 102, Natural Bridge, NY 13665, Tel. 315-644-4274] has been working with Mr. Robert Berger, of System Tech Engineering, Kansas City, MO [System Tech Engineering, 12303 E.89th St., Kansas city, MO 64138-5150, Tel. 816-313-7769, Fax 816-313-8760] to determine the relative in vivos germicidal activity of ionic silver. A second goal of this investigation is to determine if balanced fluid electrolytes can enhance the germicidal activity of ionic silver. The proposed procedure includes the following steps: 1) Select test subjects who have used colloidal silver to treat various ailments. 2) Produce colloidal silver test solutions that are 100% ionic as well as similar solutions that contain no silver at all. 3) Issue these test solutions to participants by means of a double blind distribution channel so that half receive the 100% ionic silver and the other half receive the placebo. 4) Provide instructions to dilute the test solution to 5 PPM silver, a concentration similar to that used by most who take colloidal silver. 5) Instruct participants to compare the performance of the as is test solution to the colloidal silver they have been using. 6) Instruct participants to mix 2 parts of a balanced fluid electrolyte with one part of the test solution to determine if there is an improvement in the performance of the test solution relative to the test solution used as is. 7) Request participants to keep separate written accounts of their observations for each infirmity treated, and each individual who takes part in this study. 8) After approximately 3-6 months of observations for a particular infirmity have been accumulated, participants are instructed to complete a brief survey which is designed to evaluate the performance of the test solution, relative to the colloidal silver they have been using, and the performance of the balanced fluid electrolyte plus test solution combination, relative to the test solution used as is. 9) A Chi Square analysis will then be used to determine if there is any sign of relative incremental performance after eliminating statistically the placebo effect. A final report will be issued at the completion of this study. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make CS as yet. Gladys On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:24:56 EDT rogalt...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date: 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Who knows, if enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less grouchy, perhaps even charming. Doubtful That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!! Almost a century's head start!!! Chuck Chuck: I'm willing to bet that if YOU joined in, Ole Bob will send you a personal letter of appreciation (even if I have to forge one). Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
In a message dated 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST, gw...@juno.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date: 7/17/01 3:00:35 PM EST From: gw...@juno.com (Gladys Williams) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com New to the list--don't know exactly what the Gatorade test is for??? Would like to volunteer though, especially since I don't know how to make CS as yet. Gladys Gladys: Thanks for volunteering. I just completed an abstract which I've included below. In a separate email, I'll send you additional material that you'll be needing. Please read it thoroughly before make your final decision to become part of the test group. Thanks again. Roger Dr. Roger Altman, President of Reclamation Research, Natural Bridge, NY [Reclamation Research, RR1 Box 102, Natural Bridge, NY 13665, Tel. 315-644-4274] has been working with Mr. Robert Berger, of System Tech Engineering, Kansas City, MO [System Tech Engineering, 12303 E.89th St., Kansas city, MO 64138-5150, Tel. 816-313-7769, Fax 816-313-8760] to determine the relative in vivos germicidal activity of ionic silver. A second goal of this investigation is to determine if balanced fluid electrolytes can enhance the germicidal activity of ionic silver. The proposed procedure includes the following steps: 1) Select test subjects who have used colloidal silver to treat various ailments. 2) Produce colloidal silver test solutions that are 100% ionic as well as similar solutions that contain no silver at all. 3) Issue these test solutions to participants by means of a double blind distribution channel so that half receive the 100% ionic silver and the other half receive the placebo. 4) Provide instructions to dilute the test solution to 5 PPM silver, a concentration similar to that used by most who take colloidal silver. 5) Instruct participants to compare the performance of the as is test solution to the colloidal silver they have been using. 6) Instruct participants to mix 2 parts of a balanced fluid electrolyte with one part of the test solution to determine if there is an improvement in the performance of the test solution relative to the test solution used as is. 7) Request participants to keep separate written accounts of their observations for each infirmity treated, and each individual who takes part in this study. 8) After approximately 3-6 months of observations for a particular infirmity have been accumulated, participants are instructed to complete a brief survey which is designed to evaluate the performance of the test solution, relative to the colloidal silver they have been using, and the performance of the balanced fluid electrolyte plus test solution combination, relative to the test solution used as is. 9) A Chi Square analysis will then be used to determine if there is any sign of relative incremental performance after eliminating statistically the placebo effect. A final report will be issued at the completion of this study. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
If you need Body or two Me and my wife would join in.. telt...@home.com rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST, nancym...@prodigy.net writes: Subj: CSGatorade Date: 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST From: nancym...@prodigy.net (MARIANO DELISE) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi listers, I am wondering about the Gatorade test: Will you mix the Gatorade directly with the CS? Do you think it would hurt to mix the two together and store it that way over night? Has anyone used the powder Gatorade? Could that be mixed directly into the CS? Thanks, Nancy Nancy: If you're using powered Gatorade, mix it first to the proper consistency with tap or spring water since the regular Gatorade is most probably made that way. After that, add 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS test solution just before drinking and/or using topically. List: There's a possibility that additional sponsor funds will be made available to promote our Gatorade/CS test. Anyone interested in participating in these tests may be able to receive the CS test solution completely free. Here's a chance for many of you who have received invaluable information over the years, and advice about your own particular CS (and other) problems to give something back to the List. By participating in our study we all have a chance to gain important insight into how CS works as well as begin to learn how to enhance its effectiveness. So ask yourself if your reason for not participating is as good as the many reasons to lend a helping hand. Anyone who would like to be included should contact me or Ole Bob. Who knows, if enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less grouchy, perhaps even charming. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
If you need another Body or two, Me and my wife would join in.. telt...@home.com rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST, nancym...@prodigy.net writes: Subj: CSGatorade Date: 7/16/01 0:11:41 AM EST From: nancym...@prodigy.net (MARIANO DELISE) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi listers, I am wondering about the Gatorade test: Will you mix the Gatorade directly with the CS? Do you think it would hurt to mix the two together and store it that way over night? Has anyone used the powder Gatorade? Could that be mixed directly into the CS? Thanks, Nancy Nancy: If you're using powered Gatorade, mix it first to the proper consistency with tap or spring water since the regular Gatorade is most probably made that way. After that, add 2 parts Gatorade, 1 part CS test solution just before drinking and/or using topically. List: There's a possibility that additional sponsor funds will be made available to promote our Gatorade/CS test. Anyone interested in participating in these tests may be able to receive the CS test solution completely free. Here's a chance for many of you who have received invaluable information over the years, and advice about your own particular CS (and other) problems to give something back to the List. By participating in our study we all have a chance to gain important insight into how CS works as well as begin to learn how to enhance its effectiveness. So ask yourself if your reason for not participating is as good as the many reasons to lend a helping hand. Anyone who would like to be included should contact me or Ole Bob. Who knows, if enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less grouchy, perhaps even charming. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Who knows, if enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less grouchy, perhaps even charming. Doubtful That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!! Almost a century's head start!!! Chuck If you ain't makin' waves, you ain't kickin' hard enough. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
In a message dated 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date: 7/16/01 1:47:10 PM EST From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:52:21 EDT, rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Who knows, if enough of you add your names to our list of participants he may become less grouchy, perhaps even charming. Doubtful That's a lotta grouch to overcome!!! Almost a century's head start!!! Chuck Chuck: I'm willing to bet that if YOU joined in, Ole Bob will send you a personal letter of appreciation (even if I have to forge one). Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade/CS Test
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/16/01 12:44:21 PM EST, telt...@home.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade/CS Test Date: 7/16/01 12:44:21 PM EST From: telt...@home.com (Tel Tofflemire) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com If you need Body or two Me and my wife would join in.. telt...@home.com Tel: I appreciate your offer to help with our test. Your timing is perfect because I just received word that two more sponsors will underwrite the production and shipment of quite a number of CS Test solutions to those who want to participate. So anyone willing to receive and test 2 liters of CS test solution please contact me or Ole Bob. Thanks. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com OK roggalt...@aol.com I will send my address off list. telt...@home.com
Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
Hi Eleanor: Which cat list is that? You can reply privately to me at aber...@erols.com Beverle -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
In a message dated 7/3/01 6:54:48 PM EST, kukuri...@hotmail.com writes: Subj: Re: CSGatorade- CS test. Date: 7/3/01 6:54:48 PM EST From: kukuri...@hotmail.com (kukurippa _) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi I'm new to the list. My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec. I'm only now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list that is for cats (I feed mine raw). I'm interested in learning more about CS. I'd also like to know if there is anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost. I'm thinking of using CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use some for myself (many health problems). I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive. I'm curious to know what it's all about. Looking forward to gaining information. Sincerely, Eleanor Eleanor: Most of us on this list would strongly recommend that you learn how to make your own CS. There are many ways to do it. The archives have many posts on this subject, and there is probably no best way to do it. As far as the CS/Gatorade tests are concerned, allow me to provide you with a little background (see below). Roger CS/Gaterade Testers: Bob is ready to receive orders. In addition, I have outlined test guidelines below. PLEASE READ THEM COMPLETELY. If any of you cannot participate personally, please consider becoming a sponsor so that others who are on a tight budget can become part of our study. We have one person as a sponsor already. BTW, if any of you has a rich uncle/aunt somewhere, consider asking him/her to become a sponsor as well. The more people who participate, the more reliable our results. Roger Send $15 and your shipping address to: Bob Berger, System Tech Engineering, 12303 E. 89th Street, Kansas City, MO 64138-5150. You will receive two liters of test solution that you will need to dilute. As soon as I get the exact analysis, Bob or I will tell you the proportion of DW and test solution to use to make the correct dilution. Anyone who is suffering from a serious illness should not participate in this study, rather he/she should seek medical assistance as soon as possible. Remember, the money you are paying is to participate in this TEST. You are NOT paying to receive CS. As a matter of fact, half of you will not receive CS at all. By structuring our test this way, I will be able to take into account any placebo effect that may be factored into your performance observations. Please don't discuss your test details, or personal conclusions with anyone. Otherwise, you and/or others could be influenced by such discussions. Feel free to use the test solution on as many people or ailments as you wish, but keep in mind that you will have to maintain a journal for EACH of them, and your test solution may run out before you can reach any conclusions. However, you can order or reorder as much test solution as you think you'll need in two liter batches @ $15/batch. As far as keeping a journal is concerned, feel free to do it anyway you like in order to answer the following survey questionnaire for EACH PERSON AND/OR AILMENT treated: SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE For each type of ailment or person treated, please provide SEPARATE answers to the following questions (1) What type of ailment did you treat? (2) Gender and age of person treated. (3) Which one of the two types of CS [CS by itself or (1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade)] worked better than your home made CS for this ailment or person? (4) Did the CS + Gatorade work better that the CS by itself for this ailment or person? There is no exact answer as to WHEN you should send me your completed questionnaire. The more time you have to examine the test solution performance, the more certain you will be of your conclusions, but keep in mind that during the test you may not be using an effective CS prep to treat an ailment. If I had to guess at an answer, I would say that your journal should have 3-6 months of entries before you should try to draw any conclusions, but that's just a guess. Every situation is different. However, there is nothing wrong with sending me your PRELIMINARY conclusions if you're so inclined. Well, that's about it. If you see some glaring omission or error, feel free to let me know. Roger Subj:Re: CSRe:IV--USEFUL ALTERNATIVE Date: 10/24/00 11:29:55 PM EST From: liat...@flash.net (BROOKS BRADLEY) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com To all interested List Members. Some years ago, we found a very useful alternative to IV utilization of CS in human volunteers. By diluting 2 ounces of 5 to 10 ppm CS with approximately 4 ounces of water and mixing the proper amount of powdered gatorade (or any balanced fluid
Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
I have been feeding my cats CS every day in their food for about two years. One cat with a history of severe flea bite allergy [looked like a mangey dog most of her life] has had a clear healthy coat for the entire time. Ken At 11:33 PM 7/3/01 -, you wrote: Hi I'm new to the list. My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec. I'm only now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list that is for cats (I feed mine raw). I'm interested in learning more about CS. I'd also like to know if there is anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost. I'm thinking of using CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use some for myself (many health problems). I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive. I'm curious to know what it's all about. Looking forward to gaining information. Sincerely, Eleanor _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
hi I hate to do this but I have to back out of the study I did not know that some people did not get the cs,,, my sister has lung cancer in both lungs and I have been putting all my time in taking care of her and helping with anything I can and she has had her kemo and she can not be around sick people, so sorry, Lynda - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: CSGatorade- CS test. To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter bottles ship today priority mail. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade- CS test.
Hi I'm new to the list. My name is Eleanor and I live in Quebec. I'm only now just learning about CS, in fact I found this list through another list that is for cats (I feed mine raw). I'm interested in learning more about CS. I'd also like to know if there is anyone on the list who lives in my area that is making their own CS and would be willing to sell some at a reasonable cost. I'm thinking of using CS in preparing my cat's food (which calls for some water) and I want to use some for myself (many health problems). I'll try to dig up the information on the Gatorade-CS test in the archive. I'm curious to know what it's all about. Looking forward to gaining information. Sincerely, Eleanor _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGatorade- CS test.
Have you read the posts regarding using a CS MSM mixture with oxygen in a nebulizer? It is in the list archives. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Lynda Khula [mailto:ne...@clinic.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGatorade- CS test. hi I hate to do this but I have to back out of the study I did not know that some people did not get the cs,,, my sister has lung cancer in both lungs and I have been putting all my time in taking care of her and helping with anything I can and she has had her kemo and she can not be around sick people, so sorry, Lynda - Original Message - From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: CSGatorade- CS test. To those participating in the test, the first set of three two liter bottles ship today priority mail. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
