Re: CSHow to make gels?
Lisa- You might experiment with a very small amount first, it is very powerful. It might depend on how thick you wanted it, and I would heat the water with the xanthan gum then dilute with CS. Or I suppose you could heat gently on the stove. Or perhaps just stirring it in and letting it sit would thicken it after a while, I haven't played around with it. Nancy Lisa wrote: Thanks so much...I actually have some xanthan around too :) Would you say a teaspoon of xanthan to a half cup or cup of CS? Lisa -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various ones and see what works. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow to make gels?
Thanks for the tips Nancy. I need to make a new batch of CS and plan on having some fun with it. I'd like the consistency that's thick enough so you can put some on and not have to worry about it sliding off/around. So, starting with a little bit sounds good and I'm glad you mentioned that it's powerful. I probably would've started with more than I needed... Lisa -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to make gels? Lisa- You might experiment with a very small amount first, it is very powerful. It might depend on how thick you wanted it, and I would heat the water with the xanthan gum then dilute with CS. Or I suppose you could heat gently on the stove. Or perhaps just stirring it in and letting it sit would thicken it after a while, I haven't played around with it. Nancy Lisa wrote: Thanks so much...I actually have some xanthan around too :) Would you say a teaspoon of xanthan to a half cup or cup of CS? Lisa -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various ones and see what works. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various ones and see what works. - Original Message - *From:* Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net Hi All, With the last post (regarding hemorrhoids) and the use of a gel…the question I have is how to make one? I know that folks are using CS as a gel…and I would love to know how to go about doing so? I’ve got a variety of different ingredients around that may work but would love to know what folks are using and doing to accomplish theirs? Thanks in advance Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
Postage for a gel kit is free everywhere. You can even use it to make aloe vera gel. ..any water or alcohol based substance without diluting it. Ode PAt 09:44 PM 3/1/2010 +0100, you wrote: Isn't there anything I could get here in Germany instead of ordering from the States? I can't afford all of the postage. I'm also interested in mixing the brew with different ingredients. I have an Aloe Vera plant that I'd like to try, just don't know to what ratio, and/or adding it to another base cream I could easily buy in the apothecary here. Aldi On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Sandee George mailto:oha...@juno.comoha...@juno.com wrote: Get a gel kit from Ode and make it yourself - it is available on his site Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow to make gels?
Thanks so much...I actually have some xanthan around too :) Would you say a teaspoon of xanthan to a half cup or cup of CS? Lisa -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to make gels? Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various ones and see what works. - Original Message - *From:* Lisa mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net Hi All, With the last post (regarding hemorrhoids) and the use of a gel.the question I have is how to make one? I know that folks are using CS as a gel.and I would love to know how to go about doing so? I've got a variety of different ingredients around that may work but would love to know what folks are using and doing to accomplish theirs? Thanks in advance Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
I asked the same question some years ago, and I think it was Richard Harris, who was on the group at the time, and had been a Pharmacist for some 60 years or so, who said: In regards to Pharmaceutical agents for making Topical Gels—Methylcellulose Lipoil Poloxamer NF Pluronic F127 Propylene Glycol are some of the newest most popular gelling, suspending agents. Most would come from your local independent Pharmacist (even if Not a Compounding Pharmacist), who as a favor to you could and probably would order it special in the original package after determining that you were NOT planning something harmful to yourself or others. These are some other comments from around the same time about making a gel: I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this list). Carrageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com http://www.lilyofthedesert.com is their website. Perhaps they can answer your questions. When you strip aloe it is thick but I don't think it will stay thick. Garnet You can make a gel with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is extracted from cow hooves. Garnet http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm Natural agar agar is unflavoured producing a firm, clear jelly and is rich in iodine and trace minerals and has mildly laxative properties. Perhaps the trace elements in agar such as iodine provide nutrients for the cultures. I was unable to find a chemical formula for agar, just that it was a polysaccharide complex called lentinan. Marshall Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:26:49 +0100 (GMT Standard Time) From: Rod Stevenson Hi Chris, I've not tried making an ointment with CS, but I have tried making a gel, with and without aloe vera. Its very easy and your CS won't need to be heated to a high temp ( as it does if your making a cream or ointment). Here's a recipe. (with thanks to Marshall for the ph bit) 90ml CS 2ml Xanthum Gum 10ml Aloe Vera concentrate (I use 1:10) a few drops of a preservative, such as grapefruit seed extract. sodium bicarb Gently heat the CS till it's lukewarm (this will make the gum melt more easily) sprinkle the gum and beat vigorously. If you don't want to introduce air bubbles into your mixture, keep the whisk on the bottom of the pan. Add the AV concentrate and preservative. (I've found that after about three weeks the gel develops a mould of some description. This is about two weeks longer than using just water, so the CS is doing something, just not for very long.) Bring the mixture back to around 7ph with sodium bicarb using litmus paper. You can use other thickening agents such as cellulose gum, roughly twice as much should do it. Give it a try, it's quick and simple to make. Good Luck! Rod On 2/03/2010 2:32 AM, Lisa wrote: Hi All, With the last post (regarding hemorrhoids) and the use of a gel…the question I have is how to make one? I know that folks are using CS as a gel…and I would love to know how to go about doing so? I’ve got a variety of different ingredients around that may work but would love to know what folks are using and doing to accomplish theirs? Thanks in advance. Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
I got mine from Ode. dee On 1 Mar 2010, at 18:32, Lisa wrote: Hi All, With the last post (regarding hemorrhoids) and the use of a gel…the question I have is how to make one? I know that folks are using CS as a gel…and I would love to know how to go about doing so? I’ve got a variety of different ingredients around that may work but would love to know what folks are using and doing to accomplish theirs? Thanks in advance. Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
Get a gel kit from Ode and make it yourself - it is available on his site Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make gels?
Isn't there anything I could get here in Germany instead of ordering from the States? I can't afford all of the postage. I'm also interested in mixing the brew with different ingredients. I have an Aloe Vera plant that I'd like to try, just don't know to what ratio, and/or adding it to another base cream I could easily buy in the apothecary here. Aldi On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: Get a gel kit from Ode and make it yourself - it is available on his site Regards Sandee
Re: CSHow to make gels?
Hello Lisa, Not a gell but... I fortified some Dr Bonners soap. Does that count? I concentrated some EIS from about 10 uS to about 30 uS then added that to the soap. I would think you could do something similar for the gell. I concentrated the solution by heating it and evaporating some of the water off. I don't have a way to measure PPM so I am just giving measurements in conductivity. The idea is that the more ions in the water the more conductive it will be. Tom - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:32 AM Subject: CSHow to make gels? Hi All, With the last post (regarding hemorrhoids) and the use of a gel.the question I have is how to make one? I know that folks are using CS as a gel.and I would love to know how to go about doing so? I've got a variety of different ingredients around that may work but would love to know what folks are using and doing to accomplish theirs? Thanks in advance. Lisa
