Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
Folks, Let's either end this WWII thread or migrate it to the Off Topic List. (Addresses in the footer at the bottom of this message.) Anything with strong political content is not appropriate on the Silver List, except for an occasional heads-up on important health related topics (like Codex or FDA enforcement activities), or anything directly related to CS. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
And let's keep CS discussion off the OT list too, damit! Damn right!!! LOL Mike D. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Folks, Let's either end this WWII thread or migrate it to the Off Topic List. (Addresses in the footer at the bottom of this message.) Anything with strong political content is not appropriate on the Silver List, except for an occasional heads-up on important health related topics (like Codex or FDA enforcement activities), or anything directly related to CS. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
And let's keep CS discussion off the OT list too, damit! -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Folks, Let's either end this WWII thread or migrate it to the Off Topic List. (Addresses in the footer at the bottom of this message.) Anything with strong political content is not appropriate on the Silver List, except for an occasional heads-up on important health related topics (like Codex or FDA enforcement activities), or anything directly related to CS. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
You guys are too funny!! -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article And let's keep CS discussion off the OT list too, damit! Damn right!!! LOL Mike D. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Folks, Let's either end this WWII thread or migrate it to the Off Topic List. (Addresses in the footer at the bottom of this message.) Anything with strong political content is not appropriate on the Silver List, except for an occasional heads-up on important health related topics (like Codex or FDA enforcement activities), or anything directly related to CS. Thank you, Mike Devour silver-list owner They have been doing it for some time now Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
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I haven't tuned into any of these folks in quite a while because of so much doubtful info. I recall the face on mars on Art Bells Dreamland that was very interesting and had much logical, factual and 'coincidental'?? backup. I have his video and it's quite convincing...but then the same guy come up with more stuff a few years later with photo evidence of moon and mars structures which was quite 'leading' and dubious at best. Lessee, article in Nexus by that guy who swears that reptilians live under NYC and rule the world and hearing things said backwards reveals the speakers true intent...with a few intriguing examples that don't prove a rule by any means imaginable. Myrids of Y2K millenium prophets in all the publications and shows. [Whos calander?] I wouldn't be surprised to see Dennis Lee in there somewhere. [Free energy con man and crook.] Chemtrails? Yea right. Maybe isolated and/or misconstrued cases, but 99.9% of the 'evidence' presented for a wide spread conspiracy is WAY screwy, sneaking across the borders of physically impossible, VERY and obviously misleading to anyone who knows anything about physics and the properties of states of matter. Laboratory proof..SERIOUSLY bad science in the face of obvious and simple direct sampling procedures that have not been done. The question is Rense/ Bell/ Nexus Position..which is rarely if ever stated..vs the presentation? They report. They ask questions sometimes. They host speakers and publish articles. They don't validate. Validation is not their job. They may well screen out some of the more obvious crackpots. The material is a few steps above the Inquirer [who will publish anything with ZERO screening] but far short of 'consistantly' valid. Of course there is good solid stuff there too, fringe or not...but you are left to distinguish which is which and how solid. The hosts and publishers are not qualified to do that for you, very very few journalists are ... and they don't. ... those that are and do, say, in American Scientific Mag... don't always get it right. Many mainstream wild guesses, theories, frauds and hoaxes presented 'as fact' but proven questionable, doubtful or invalid are STILL being perpetuated in museums and text books as fact. Ode At 07:48 PM 3/22/2005 -0700, you wrote: Rense had a lot of experience as a print and television news journalist before becoming an independent web journalist . Rense does print a lot of fringe stuff. I have done a lot of research on many of the topics that seem over the edge, and find that his position on them is very creditable. Could you give us a couple of examples of Renses crackpot articles? Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Both Rense and Bell ..and Nexus magazine, for that matter...will put out anything that people will listen to so long as it is at least marginally believable. This guy sez [ Nevermind what we think about it] Veracity, facts and proof are not a big concerns of theirs. Some of the stuff is really good, most is crackpot. They leave it up to you to decide which is which and how much. Inquiring minds want to know everything, true, semi true and untrue...and there it is. Discriminating minds sort through it. Ode At 06:09 AM 3/21/2005 -0500, you wrote: Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al --===AVGMAIL-423EC43123C2=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-177A7082 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
There were many instances of events not being prevented in WW2 because doing so would have jeopardized more important plans and resources. For instance: If you have the enemies codes, using that info tends to reveal that fact and you don't get to use them for bigger things. Pearl Harbor was pretty big, but still a small pixel in a much bigger picture. ..save 1,000 here and lose 10,000 in 5 other places? Not the best deal. Of course, some of it is a sales job...like WMD. [Which are not 'proven' non existant, BTW. Nonexistant and not found are two completely different animals in ANY book of zoo logic.] Ode At 07:58 PM 3/22/2005 -0800, you wrote: wasn't the japanese communications code broken several months before Pearl. (purple code), why weren't the aircraft carriers there, and didn't US Pearl forces sink a miniature japanese submarine at the entrance to pearl several hours before the actual attack and notified washington. For my money the germans, japanese, english and american governments are all suspect. The only truth seems to be not don't trust those in power. But we should keep things on topic. remember the Golden Rule. dems that got da gold makes da rules. It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -Voltaire [François Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist http://www.HappyHerbalist.com>www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 6:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Re: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article What is your take on Pearl Harbor Albert? -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
Ode Coyote wrote: Chemtrails? Yea right. Maybe isolated and/or misconstrued cases, but 99.9% of the 'evidence' presented for a wide spread conspiracy is WAY screwy, sneaking across the borders of physically impossible, VERY and obviously misleading to anyone who knows anything about physics and the properties of states of matter. Laboratory proof..SERIOUSLY bad science in the face of obvious and simple direct sampling procedures that have not been done. I have to disagree with you on the chemtrails. Too much first hand knowledge and personal experience with them. Seen them coming out of nossles mounted on the plane when viewed with binocolars. Seen a half dozen planes flying checkerboard over a city for hours spraying when over the city, then turning it off when they turn around to make the next pass. Seen trails at altitudes below clouds that exist only at lower levels, far below where it is possible for a contrail to form. I have watched two planes pass each other, one spraying, and the other with a contrail, and the contrail evaporates in a matter of a minute or two, but the other one spreads out and hangs until it reaches the ground. I have been with a group of people that watched trails being sprayed one day wondering what was going on (this was when they first started and I was not aware of them yet), and watched the trails descend and reach the ground producing a fog on a warm day with under 50% humidity and when it reached the ground everyone started choking and their skin burning, inclucing mine. We all had to rush home and take a shower or bath to stop the burning. Sorry, but for me, experience trumps all theories. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
They are to map the planet energy-grid so that harp (deliberately misspelled) can image airborne objects. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Ode Coyote wrote: Chemtrails? Yea right. Maybe isolated and/or misconstrued cases, but 99.9% of the 'evidence' presented for a wide spread conspiracy is WAY screwy, sneaking across the borders of physically impossible, VERY and obviously misleading to anyone who knows anything about physics and the properties of states of matter. Laboratory proof..SERIOUSLY bad science in the face of obvious and simple direct sampling procedures that have not been done. I have to disagree with you on the chemtrails. Too much first hand knowledge and personal experience with them. Seen them coming out of nossles mounted on the plane when viewed with binocolars. Seen a half dozen planes flying checkerboard over a city for hours spraying when over the city, then turning it off when they turn around to make the next pass. Seen trails at altitudes below clouds that exist only at lower levels, far below where it is possible for a contrail to form. I have watched two planes pass each other, one spraying, and the other with a contrail, and the contrail evaporates in a matter of a minute or two, but the other one spreads out and hangs until it reaches the ground. I have been with a group of people that watched trails being sprayed one day wondering what was going on (this was when they first started and I was not aware of them yet), and watched the trails descend and reach the ground producing a fog on a warm day with under 50% humidity and when it reached the ground everyone started choking and their skin burning, inclucing mine. We all had to rush home and take a shower or bath to stop the burning. Sorry, but for me, experience trumps all theories. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Very simply this! Roosevelt had to get the U. S. committed to war with the Axis powers to restore the economy. The occasional sinking of a U. S. ship by a German U-boot did not stir the passion required! We had copies of the Axis Enigma code machine and knew the Japanese were preparing a pre-emptive strike on the Pacific Fleet based in Pearl. He had checked with his top Naval Brass and Billy Mitchell's demonstration notwithstanding, they assured him (the President) that there was no way the Japanese could do significant damage to the heavily armored cruisers and battleships, but the aircraft carriers were a different kettle of fish! They were ordered on a Top Secret maneuver away from the source of the attack. So in a flurry of Top Secret telegrams significantly leaving out the highest ranking Naval and Army officers the decision was made to maintain a low profile, make no effort to intercept the Japanese task force, or otherwise acknowlege our awareness of it. The result was beyond Roosevelt's wildest dreams! Incidentally, the two responsible Officers on Pearl recieved Courts Martials, and their names have never been cleared to this day! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:48 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article What is your take on Pearl Harbor Albert? -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Albert Peirce To: http://aepeirce@cinci.rr.com Cc: Albert Peirce Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Minimal further investigation would have revealed to Mr. Perry that the peace overtures from the NAZIS were a sham, and were an attempt to temporise and secure the western front as Germany prepared to invade the Soviet Union! Germany probably had 60% of its military forces deployed to resist a renewed effort to re-establish an allied presence in western Europe, and if they could have suceeded in establishing a Neville Chamberlain II agreement, they could have moved a significant portion of this presence to the eastern front. As it was, they took a calculated risk that the Allies would not be ready to open an invasion of Europe for several years and moved their forces anyway. Remember that at the time, 1940/41, the Royal Air Force fighter command had virtually decimated the Luftwaffe flying over England (for every plane shot down, if the crew survived they were taken prisoner) and the Bomber Command was ramping up its night-time bombing of Germany, and the United States Army Air Corps was flying B17's and B24's to England to begin daylight bombing over Europe!! Germany was not dealing from a position of strength!!! HISTORY is a marvelous source of information, and even though it is no longer taught in our schools, it should be accessibile and encouragement offered to study it Al
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Yup, and James' suggestion we move this topic to the OT list is an extremely good one. Thanks! Mike D. da list owner guy and part time ogre... But we should keep things on topic. remember the Golden Rule. dems that got da gold makes da rules. It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -Voltaire [Francois Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
Hello Albert, You wrote, Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, Why is that especially interesting? Can you please explain your understanding of the events leading up to Pearl Harbor? Do you think it was a surprise attack? Please answer on the off topic list. Jim -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Albert Peirce mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com To: http://aepeirce http://aepeirce@cinci.rr.com Cc: Albert Peirce mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Minimal further investigation would have revealed to Mr. Perry that the peace overtures from the NAZIS were a sham, and were an attempt to temporise and secure the western front as Germany prepared to invade the Soviet Union! Germany probably had 60% of its military forces deployed to resist a renewed effort to re-establish an allied presence in western Europe, and if they could have suceeded in establishing a Neville Chamberlain II agreement, they could have moved a significant portion of this presence to the eastern front. As it was, they took a calculated risk that the Allies would not be ready to open an invasion of Europe for several years and moved their forces anyway. Remember that at the time, 1940/41, the Royal Air Force fighter command had virtually decimated the Luftwaffe flying over England (for every plane shot down, if the crew survived they were taken prisoner) and the Bomber Command was ramping up its night-time bombing of Germany, and the United States Army Air Corps was flying B17's and B24's to England to begin daylight bombing over Europe!! Germany was not dealing from a position of strength!!! HISTORY is a marvelous source of information, and even though it is no longer taught in our schools, it should be accessibile and encouragement offered to study it Al
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
What is your take on Pearl Harbor Albert? -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Albert Peirce mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com To: http://aepeirce http://aepeirce@cinci.rr.com Cc: Albert Peirce mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Minimal further investigation would have revealed to Mr. Perry that the peace overtures from the NAZIS were a sham, and were an attempt to temporise and secure the western front as Germany prepared to invade the Soviet Union! Germany probably had 60% of its military forces deployed to resist a renewed effort to re-establish an allied presence in western Europe, and if they could have suceeded in establishing a Neville Chamberlain II agreement, they could have moved a significant portion of this presence to the eastern front. As it was, they took a calculated risk that the Allies would not be ready to open an invasion of Europe for several years and moved their forces anyway. Remember that at the time, 1940/41, the Royal Air Force fighter command had virtually decimated the Luftwaffe flying over England (for every plane shot down, if the crew survived they were taken prisoner) and the Bomber Command was ramping up its night-time bombing of Germany, and the United States Army Air Corps was flying B17's and B24's to England to begin daylight bombing over Europe!! Germany was not dealing from a position of strength!!! HISTORY is a marvelous source of information, and even though it is no longer taught in our schools, it should be accessibile and encouragement offered to study it Al
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Rense had a lot of experience as a print and television news journalist before becoming an independent web journalist . Rense does print a lot of fringe stuff. I have done a lot of research on many of the topics that seem over the edge, and find that his position on them is very creditable. Could you give us a couple of examples of Rense's crackpot articles? Jim -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Both Rense and Bell ..and Nexus magazine, for that matter...will put out anything that people will listen to so long as it is at least marginally believable. This guy sez [ Nevermind what we think about it] Veracity, facts and proof are not a big concerns of theirs. Some of the stuff is really good, most is crackpot. They leave it up to you to decide which is which and how much. Inquiring minds want to know everything, true, semi true and untrue...and there it is. Discriminating minds sort through it. Ode At 06:09 AM 3/21/2005 -0500, you wrote: Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al --===AVGMAIL-423EC43123C2=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-177A7082 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
wasn't the japanese communications code broken several months before Pearl. (purple code), why weren't the aircraft carriers there, and didn't US Pearl forces sink a miniature japanese submarine at the entrance to pearl several hours before the actual attack and notified washington. For my money the germans, japanese, english and american governments are all suspect. The only truth seems to be not don't trust those in power. But we should keep things on topic. remember the Golden Rule. dems that got da gold makes da rules. It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -Voltaire [Francois Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) Enjoy Your Health, Ed Kasper L.Ac. California Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist www.HappyHerbalist.com -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 6:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article What is your take on Pearl Harbor Albert? -Original Message- From: Albert Peirce [mailto:aepei...@cinci.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al
Re: CSRe: alex s. perry, jr's WWII article
Both Rense and Bell ..and Nexus magazine, for that matter...will put out anything that people will listen to so long as it is at least marginally believable. This guy sez [ Nevermind what we think about it] Veracity, facts and proof are not a big concerns of theirs. Some of the stuff is really good, most is crackpot. They leave it up to you to decide which is which and how much. Inquiring minds want to know everything, true, semi true and untrue...and there it is. Discriminating minds sort through it. Ode At 06:09 AM 3/21/2005 -0500, you wrote: Most interesting that rense.com would publish a scurrilous article by Alex S. Perry impugning the Allies' efforts to defeat Nazism, Fascism, and Japanese expansionism in the Far East, and then shut down its site on the web so that no response could be made and read by anyone who originally responded to and read Mr. Perry's article entitled THERE WAS NO NEED FOR WORLD WAR II Any information about contacting these people would be appreciated. Regards, Al --===AVGMAIL-423EC43123C2=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-177A7082 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005
