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Re: CSThyroid Nodules
Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was nervous about jolting my body... Does the separate hand holds hurt? On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Doug, Where does one find IV-Ozone expert locally? I'm very interested in trying this out if it'll help treat the Hashimoto's disease I'm suffering from. RaVen On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:51 AM, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. from: http://hypothyroidmom.com/hashimotos-disease-the-infection-connection/ http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/infections-and-hashimotos If hashimoto is indeed an inefection based malady, consider: http://www.secondnaturecare.com/blog/an-unexpected-bonus-ozone-therapy-second-nature-care One of the most common causes for decreased resting oxygen utilization is low thyroid function. When you treat low oxygen utilization with I.V. ozone therapy you improve thyroid function. Everyone with a thyroid condition should be getting I.V. ozone therapy. When your thyroid is working well you feel happier. After one I.V. ozone with ozone inhalation treatment for a raging Epstein-Barr infection last Saturday the patient called me on Sunday to report that she is 98% better. I told her that she needed to continue treatment and we'll recheck her chronic active infection titers after 10 treatments. I don't just want to roll her disease back; I want to erradicate it. doug
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LDN did NOT work well for me at all I felt awful on it for the entire month I was on LDN... my family doctor did report other Hashimoto patients did wonderfully on it. Lucky them. On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:41 PM, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: And this personal account of LDN: http://aliciahadden.blogspot.com/2013/10/my-journey-with-ldn-low-dose-naltrexone.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThyroid Nodules
Hard to say. For sure you need to check out the list of practitioners that are registered for oxidation medicine: http://nebula.wsimg.com/2403a3dfc1153e80d32ee1deb97e0397?AccessKeyId=573E12B1E5C6F40ACA00disposition=0alloworigin=1 doug On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:03 AM, RaVen wrote: Hi Doug, Where does one find IV-Ozone expert locally? I'm very interested in trying this out if it'll help treat the Hashimoto's disease I'm suffering from. RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It didn't help my thyroid with what they were calling Hashimoto's at the time.PT From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:03 AM Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Hi Doug,Where does one find IV-Ozone expert locally?I'm very interested in trying this out if it'll help treat the Hashimoto's disease I'm suffering from. RaVen On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:51 AM, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. from: http://hypothyroidmom.com/hashimotos-disease-the-infection-connection/ http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/infections-and-hashimotos If hashimoto is indeed an inefection based malady, consider: http://www.secondnaturecare.com/blog/an-unexpected-bonus-ozone-therapy-second-nature-care One of the most common causes for decreased resting oxygen utilization is low thyroid function. When you treat low oxygen utilization with I.V. ozone therapy you improve thyroid function. Everyone with a thyroid condition should be getting I.V. ozone therapy. When your thyroid is working well you feel happier. After one I.V. ozone with ozone inhalation treatment for a raging Epstein-Barr infection last Saturday the patient called me on Sunday to report that she is 98% better. I told her that she needed to continue treatment and we'll recheck her chronic active infection titers after 10 treatments. I don't just want to roll her disease back; I want to erradicate it. doug
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Separate handholds don't hurt. You have to touch them across your tongue, or something like that, to get any sensation. Like testing a 9V battery... On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:57 AM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was nervous about jolting my body... Does the separate hand holds hurt? On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't agree that the Terminator Zapper is effective. I have found them ineffective, but they may have some effect if they are placed across a vein, IMHO... On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote: Raven , If that is the thing called Terminator. That is particulary benign to the body and seems more beneficial that the ordinary Hulda clark device. I used to make and sell standard Hulda Clark Zappers and still prefer to use the Terminator on myself if I have something which won't go. It seems to have a better penetrating action. There is a use for both. I usually dampen the coins and place them on my tummy, tucked behind my belt. I can leave that on for hours. OK, Tony On 21 Aug 2015 at 6:57, RaVen wrote about : Subject : Re: CSThyroid Nodules Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was nervous about jolting my body... Does the separate hand holds hurt? On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Raven , If that is the thing called Terminator. That is particulary benign to the body and seems more beneficial that the ordinary Hulda clark device. I used to make and sell standard Hulda Clark Zappers and still prefer to use the Terminator on myself if I have something which won't go. It seems to have a better penetrating action. There is a use for both. I usually dampen the coins and place them on my tummy, tucked behind my belt. I can leave that on for hours. OK, Tony On 21 Aug 2015 at 6:57, RaVen wrote about : Subject : Re: CSThyroid Nodules Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was nervous about jolting my body... Does the separate hand holds hurt? On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks, Tony, for your input. Appreciated. :) RS On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote: Raven , If that is the thing called Terminator. That is particulary benign to the body and seems more beneficial that the ordinary Hulda clark device. I used to make and sell standard Hulda Clark Zappers and still prefer to use the Terminator on myself if I have something which won't go. It seems to have a better penetrating action. There is a use for both. I usually dampen the coins and place them on my tummy, tucked behind my belt. I can leave that on for hours. OK, Tony On 21 Aug 2015 at 6:57, RaVen wrote about : Subject : Re: CSThyroid Nodules Okay, I did buy the square plastic box with the 2 pennies in it I was nervous about jolting my body... Does the separate hand holds hurt? On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- My Google Voice Text # is (720) 442-8725 *Quote: * There is no luck except where there is discipline. Irish proverb
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Curious, does CS stop cavities?
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Hi RaVen, Yes, CS stops cavities in my experience. However, the answer is more complicated than that. I have a long post on it here http://www.otezok.com/2015/08/14/tooth-gum-care/, with these specific comments later in the article: As far as cavity fighting, I already use colloidal silver as a rinse before and after oil pulling. But fighting the cavity is not enough, as some damage will always be done. We need to heal. We need to remineralize. The entire idea of ‘cavity fighting’ is irrelevant if our diet is good (i.e. following the WAPD guidance http://www.otezok.com/health/dietary-guidance/), as our cavities will heal. And this mouthwash and toothpaste are aiding in remineralization, which is the key point for ‘fighting’ cavities. Our ancestors thrived for millions of years without any of this – why? – because the body eliminates cavities and repairs teeth naturally when it has the nutrition it needs. Look around you. Animals and people throughout history have maintained perfect teeth. Diet is the single most powerful influence on the health of your gums and teeth. Hope that answers your question. Victor On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Curious, does CS stop cavities?
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Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. https://drknews.com/search/iodine On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid meds or can avoid becoming more hypo by optimizing the health of their thyroid. Selenium is also good (along with cofactors of Vit C and magnesium and sea salt) when taking iodine. If you have been taking iodine for 4 yrs now, then you have gotten past all the detox that iodine supplementation can sometimes bring on from ingested fluorides, bromines and chlorides. That is good. You may not think that the iodine is doing anything but it is. I am totally inexperienced with thyroid nodules, goiters, etc. since I have never had those problems. If your thyroid isn't performing optimally tho, that could well explain your low immune system. Thyroid affects and impacts so many things in the body. You might want to think about joining the yahoo group,'Natural Thyroid Hormones' on Yahoo. They cover all the thyroid supplements, not just the NDT extract and they have very knowledgeable moderators. They are on hiatus until Tuesday but I would encourage you to consider joining the group if you aren't already a member. Having your doctor run some blood tests on your thyroid (if you haven't run them already) will be very helpful in seeing what is going on. The STTM website is an excellent resource for which tests to run. The STTM stands for 'Stop The Thyroid Madness'. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that will help my immune system. On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article
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Being a layman, excuse me for interrupting here, but the following [bolded] caught my attention... There are some terminologies which may differ dependant on which country one resides in. Could you tell me if what you all are discussing is anything to do with, or related to in any way, what is termed in Australia as Glandular Fever or Kissing Disease? I'll explain if the above is relevant. Thank You N. From: dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:51:37 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. doug
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I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The mentioned common name, kissing disease has been used in the USA to denote mononucleosis. The hashimoto's patient I am working with had a very severe case of mono when she was in college. doug On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Neville wrote: Being a layman, excuse me for interrupting here, but the following [bolded] caught my attention... There are some terminologies which may differ dependant on which country one resides in. Could you tell me if what you all are discussing is anything to do with, or related to in any way, what is termed in Australia as Glandular Fever or Kissing Disease? I'll explain if the above is relevant. Thank You N. From: dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:51:37 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. doug
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Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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OK Doug, Thanks for that. Going on that information it sounds like what we commonly call Glandular Fever, a member of the Herpes family. If this is so, then one of our daughters used to get swelling thyroid every time she caught a cold or flu, She gargled and swallowed some silver with remarkable success. That was a few years ago now and she has never had a recurrence of thyroid swelling issue associated with a cold or flu since. I know there are several forms of Herpes, but the question that has always remained in my mind is, if the Herpes associated with Mononucleosis is knocked out, would it be possible to get Chicken Pox again? Seeing as Chicken Pox is the bastard child of one form of Herpes? Likewise when I have treated family members for Shingles with silver. If the Herpes associated with Glandular Fever, or Mononucleosis is knocked out, does it knock out all other forms of Herpes with it, rendering the person susceptible to Chicken Pox again? I haven't managed to find any information available in the public domain to answer this question? I ponder over this because silver is non discriminatory when it comes to bugs. The staunch Unionist scenario, one out, all out. N. From: dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:57:47 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com The mentioned common name, kissing disease has been used in the USA to denote mononucleosis. The hashimoto's patient I am working with had a very severe case of mono when she was in college. doug On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Neville wrote: Being a layman, excuse me for interrupting here, but the following [bolded] caught my attention... There are some terminologies which may differ dependant on which country one resides in. Could you tell me if what you all are discussing is anything to do with, or related to in any way, what is termed in Australia as Glandular Fever or Kissing Disease? I'll explain if the above is relevant. Thank You N.
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Depends on what type you bought. I am talking about one that has separate hand holds, or where you can put electrodes on different parts of the body rather than those ones with two pennies for electrodes. Otherwise it is just a square wave oscillator going from 0 to 9 volts, oscillating at around 30KHz. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of zappers -- I bought an affordable one from some nice guy who makes them - can't remember his name (blush) --- but it didn't do a thing for me. Did I need something stronger? What do you (those who have had experience with) recommend? On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if you could benefit from using a Hulda Clark type Zapper. I used one of her original style Zappers and had good results against Shingles in myself and other people, and with Mononucleosis which are viral diseases. The Zapper seemed to be effective. Dan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease! I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mono = Kissing disease On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Being a layman, excuse me for interrupting here, but the following [bolded] caught my attention... There are some terminologies which may differ dependant on which country one resides in. Could you tell me if what you all are discussing is anything to do with, or related to in any way, what is termed in Australia as Glandular Fever or Kissing Disease? I'll explain if the above is relevant. Thank You N. -- From: dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:51:37 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. *One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue.* Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. doug
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Yes but not for auto- immune diseases I believeDee Sent from my iPad On 17 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200% http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ Ron On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. https://drknews.com/search/iodine On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200% http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ Ron On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. https://drknews.com/search/iodine On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid meds or can avoid becoming more hypo by optimizing the health of their thyroid. Selenium is also good (along with cofactors of Vit C and magnesium and sea salt) when taking iodine. If you have been taking iodine for 4 yrs now, then you have gotten past all the detox that iodine supplementation can sometimes bring on from ingested fluorides, bromines and chlorides. That is good. You may not think that the iodine is doing anything but it is. I am totally inexperienced with thyroid nodules, goiters, etc. since I have never had those problems. If your thyroid isn't performing optimally tho, that could well explain your low immune system. Thyroid affects and impacts so many things in the body. You might want to think about joining the yahoo group,'Natural Thyroid Hormones' on Yahoo. They cover all the thyroid supplements, not just the NDT extract and they have very knowledgeable moderators. They are on hiatus until Tuesday but I would encourage you to consider joining the group if you aren't already a member. Having your doctor run some blood tests on your thyroid (if you haven't run them already) will be very helpful in seeing what is going on. The STTM website is an excellent resource for which tests to run. The STTM stands for 'Stop The Thyroid Madness'. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that will help my immune system. On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product
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Sent from my iPad On 17 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200% http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ Ron On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. https://drknews.com/search/iodine On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. from: http://hypothyroidmom.com/hashimotos-disease-the-infection-connection/ http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/infections-and-hashimotos If hashimoto is indeed an inefection based malady, consider: http://www.secondnaturecare.com/blog/an-unexpected-bonus-ozone-therapy-second-nature-care One of the most common causes for decreased resting oxygen utilization is low thyroid function. When you treat low oxygen utilization with I.V. ozone therapy you improve thyroid function. Everyone with a thyroid condition should be getting I.V. ozone therapy. When your thyroid is working well you feel happier. After one I.V. ozone with ozone inhalation treatment for a raging Epstein-Barr infection last Saturday the patient called me on Sunday to report that she is 98% better. I told her that she needed to continue treatment and we'll recheck her chronic active infection titers after 10 treatments. I don't just want to roll her disease back; I want to erradicate it. doug
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If indeed infection based .. I wonder if the combo of CS and LDN would be helpful. On 8/17/2015 10:27 AM, Lola Harris wrote: Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have
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Yes, I'm curious as to why Colloidal Silver can't help with thyroid diseases? Is it like too late once get it? Wonder... On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: If indeed infection based .. I wonder if the combo of CS and LDN would be helpful. On 8/17/2015 10:27 AM, Lola Harris wrote: Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have
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Apparently LDN is being used: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ldn/ http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/-low-dose-naltrexone-and-hashimotos http://recoveringwitht3.com/blog/could-low-dose-naltrexone-ldn-be-silver-bullet-hashimotos-thyroiditis-patients -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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And this personal account of LDN: http://aliciahadden.blogspot.com/2013/10/my-journey-with-ldn-low-dose-naltrexone.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just musing here but.. CS fights/kills bacteria, viruses, fungi etc. Out thyroids put outa hormone. I don't see, except for the possible connection to hashis that Doug pointed out, how CS would help an hormonal imbalance anymore than it would help in the instanceof sex hormones or melatonin (the sleep hormone) being out of balance. But who knows?Maybe getting rid of an underlying infection could help bring all the body functions backto optimal?Lola - Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Yes, I'm curious as to why Colloidal Silver can't help with thyroid diseases? Is it like too late once get it? Wonder... On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: If indeed infection based .. I wonder if the combo of CS and LDN would be helpful. On 8/17/2015 10:27 AM, Lola Harris wrote: Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have
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Lola I beg to differ CS does NOT kill virus, a virus is considered to be dead, because they do not breathe, they do not use oxygen, it piggy backs on others cells for support, it then uses the host to self multiply its cells, which is why CS can not kill them, I learned this myself last year when I contracted the Chickenguyna virus, and all the other virus I have contracted over the years. What CS does is clean up the garbage of all the other lurgies which enter the body, a virus is one of the hardest things to kill, I have heard it said, that after a long period of time, a virus will die or become dormant in the body as does herpes and more, however to actually say they die or are eradicated from the body I think a blood test is the only way known to establish this fact - there are others on this site who know more about this than I do, so I am sure they will contribute their dollar’s worth to what I have said - a virus is a totally different animal to any other human type disease!I will venture into other fields here to say that mentally a virus can be killed however a huge amount of personal work has to be done to achieve this, and even then I am not sure, cause I have not been able to achieve this myself after many many years of work ! Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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First, I would like to thank the moderators of this list for their patience and tolerance in allowing this off-topic discussion of thyroid/hashimoto/iodine. And you are correct that hashis is an auto-immune disease, that is, the body's own immune system begins to attack the thyroid gland. There is much confusion about iodine and thyroid disorders. For those who want further information about iodine, and supplementing with iodine and it's relation to the thyroid, this website is a good one with a number of informative articles. http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/01/selenium-thyroid-good-news/ And this one... http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/iodine12345/ There are two Stop The Thyroid Madness books available and Dr. Dach wrote one of the chapters in the STTM II book. This is considered the 'bible' for iodine information and supplementation http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Need-Cant-Live-Without/dp/0966088239 Also, one can become a member of an iodine group on FaceBook run by Stephanie B. ... sorry... don't recall her last name off the top of my head. I think they have about 5000+ members. Just monitoring this site will be an education in it's self. Also the group 'NaturalThyroidHormones' on yahoo. The very knowledgeable moderators aren't as versed in iodine supplementation but they are very familiar with hashis. Lola ps. One can certainly feel worse when first starting iodine supplementation. Iodine is a member of a chemical family called halides. Fluoride, bromide and chloride are also members of this 'family' and occupy the same cell receptors as iodine. As iodine starts 'kicking out' and replacing these halides, one can experience detox. Taking the co-factors of selenium, magnesium, Vit C and sea salt helps to open up the detox pathways and eases the transition. One should always start off low and slow with iodine, being ready to back off at the first signs of detox and restarting at a lower dose. - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules Yes but not for auto- immune diseases I believeDee Sent from my iPad On 17 Aug 2015, at 13:59, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote: I have not followed all of this. Excuse me if I am duplicating. Years ago I read that the thyroid and breast compete for iodine and that breast cancer was mostly due to to low iodine. Taking Thyroid Hormone Increases Breast Cancer Risk By 200% http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/taking-thyroid-hormone-increases-breast-cancer-risk-by-200/ Ron On 8/17/2015 4:53 AM, RaVen wrote: Yes, as Hashimoto's patient myself - Iodine made me feel worse. You can read Dr K's reasons for not giving iodine to his patient. Please note that Hashimoto's is NOT hypothyroidism with a lot of people get mixed up. https://drknews.com/search/iodine On Aug 17, 2015, at 4:02 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid m -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Exactly! A stealth infection is the only thing that makes sense to me on what is going on here and may offer some hope of a better treatment/cure program. Personally, I would find it an interesting experiment to see if a CS and DMSO paint around the thyroid region would help out symptoms any? Though there may be more efficient forms of combating a EBV infection such as electrical stimulation, etc. ?? doug On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Lola Harris wrote: Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have the body in a constant state of inflammation too? Main stream medicine offers little in the way of real cures for EB (or hashis for that matter). Wouldn't it be something if the 'cure' is as easy as using/taking CS and ozone therapy. Lola
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hmmm... Interesting, Patricia. LDN would boost the immune system and maybe regulateor moderate it and the CS would go after the virus.Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules If indeed infection based .. I wonder if the combo of CS and LDN would be helpful. On 8/17/2015 10:27 AM, Lola Harris wrote: Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have
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I agree, LDN might be very useful. doug On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Patricia wrote: If indeed infection based .. I wonder if the combo of CS and LDN would be helpful.
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I had read somewhere that iodine can - in some instances - be detrimental to the thyroid. I think it may have been in the presence of Hashimotos. Does anyone know if this is correct? I know that the thyroid usually needs iodineDee Sent from my iPad On 16 Aug 2015, at 22:12, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid meds or can avoid becoming more hypo by optimizing the health of their thyroid. Selenium is also good (along with cofactors of Vit C and magnesium and sea salt) when taking iodine. If you have been taking iodine for 4 yrs now, then you have gotten past all the detox that iodine supplementation can sometimes bring on from ingested fluorides, bromines and chlorides. That is good. You may not think that the iodine is doing anything but it is. I am totally inexperienced with thyroid nodules, goiters, etc. since I have never had those problems. If your thyroid isn't performing optimally tho, that could well explain your low immune system. Thyroid affects and impacts so many things in the body. You might want to think about joining the yahoo group,'Natural Thyroid Hormones' on Yahoo. They cover all the thyroid supplements, not just the NDT extract and they have very knowledgeable moderators. They are on hiatus until Tuesday but I would encourage you to consider joining the group if you aren't already a member. Having your doctor run some blood tests on your thyroid (if you haven't run them already) will be very helpful in seeing what is going on. The STTM website is an excellent resource for which tests to run. The STTM stands for 'Stop The Thyroid Madness'. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that will help my immune system. On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3
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Doug.. fascinating information. An underlying active infection would also have the body in a constant state of inflammation too? Main stream medicine offers little in the way of real cures for EB (or hashisfor that matter). Wouldn't it be something if the 'cure' is as easy as using/taking CS and ozone therapy.Lola - Original Message - From: polo dah...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have been working with a hashimoto patient and I might add a new perspective to this discussion, particularly since this is a silver list, interested in CS fighting infections: My suspicions that thyroiditis was caused by an infection seems to be backed up by many online excerpts: In my clinical experience working with many Hashimoto’s patients I have found that the most common underlying cause of Hashimoto’s disease is a chronic stealth infection that has been overlooked by both conventional and alternative practitioners. One of the most common infection connections with Hashimoto’s disease is the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV). EBV is actually a herpes virus that most people contract when they are young causing mononucleosis aka “The Kissing Disease” which results in swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Normally, your body fights it off and your immune system controls it for life just like chicken pox for example. However, people with Hashimoto’s disease have been shown to have a genetic deficiency in the immune cells (CD8+) that control this virus. The virus then reactivates inside the thyroid gland inducing autoimmunity via molecular mimicry. As long as the EBV is active, the autoimmunity will persist. I find a significant number of patients with Hashimoto’s disease have reactivated EBV which is identified through a simple blood test. I use the activity of the EBV as a guide to balancing the immune system and reducing the attack on the thyroid gland. from: http://hypothyroidmom.com/hashimotos-disease-the-infection-connection/ http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/infections-and-hashimotos If hashimoto is indeed an inefection based malady, consider: http://www.secondnaturecare.com/blog/an-unexpected-bonus-ozone-therapy-second-nature-care One of the most common causes for decreased resting oxygen utilization is low thyroid function. When you treat low oxygen utilization with I.V. ozone therapy you improve thyroid function. Everyone with a thyroid condition should be getting I.V. ozone therapy. When your thyroid is working well you feel happier. After one I.V. ozone with ozone inhalation treatment for a raging Epstein-Barr infection last Saturday the patient called me on Sunday to report that she is 98% better. I told her that she needed to continue treatment and we'll recheck her chronic active infection titers after 10 treatments. I don't just want to roll her disease back; I want to erradicate it. doug
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Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I found a lump in my throat about 10 or so years ago. I went to my reg. M.D. and he redid the thyroid testing he had already done before and everything was normal however, he sent me on to a Endocrinologist who did a more extensive panel and found I had Hashimoto's. I allowed him to do the needle test because I really didn't understand the issues with that. All turned out OK but when I was put on Synthroid, all 3 nodules greatly reduced in size. that's the reason I asked about Hashi. Edith -Original Message- From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 1:54 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules No on the Hashimotos .. as far as I know. just the nodules.. Thyroid numbers are always low normal. Concerned about the needle biopsy if it is cancer..it could spread it. On 8/15/2015 7:46 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Interesting. I have been taking Iodoral - (pill form of Lugols). not prescribed.. just thought i needed it. Doesn't seem to have changed anything for me but then may not be as strong as Synthroid. I asked the ENT doc about taking thyroid supplement and he said no. I have been having episodes of rapid heartbeat and anxiety .. I know that could be related to the thyroid. I will talk with doc further. I think I need more blood work. Thanks Edith. On 8/16/2015 9:09 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: I found a lump in my throat about 10 or so years ago. I went to my reg. M.D. and he redid the thyroid testing he had already done before and everything was normal however, he sent me on to a Endocrinologist who did a more extensive panel and found I had Hashimoto's. I allowed him to do the needle test because I really didn't understand the issues with that. All turned out OK but when I was put on Synthroid, all 3 nodules greatly reduced in size. that's the reason I asked about Hashi. Edith -Original Message- From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 1:54 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules No on the Hashimotos .. as far as I know. just the nodules.. Thyroid numbers are always low normal. Concerned about the needle biopsy if it is cancer..it could spread it. On 8/15/2015 7:46 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Thank you Raven. I will do that. guess i need the needle biopsy first to rule out cancer and go from there. Nervous since nodules have grown for first time in the 7 yrs the doc has been watching them. :/ On 8/16/2015 11:32 AM, RaVen wrote: I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that will help my immune system. On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Patricia. No, iodine will not replace thyroid extract or synthetic thyroid meds if you need them. I do think (just my opinion) that someone who is barely hypo (underactive thyroid), can perhaps avoid having to take thyroid meds or can avoid becoming more hypo by optimizing the health of their thyroid. Selenium is also good (along with cofactors of Vit C and magnesium and sea salt) when taking iodine. If you have been taking iodine for 4 yrs now, then you have gotten past all the detox that iodine supplementation can sometimes bring on from ingested fluorides, bromines and chlorides. That is good. You may not think that the iodine is doing anything but it is. I am totally inexperienced with thyroid nodules, goiters, etc. since I have never had those problems. If your thyroid isn't performing optimally tho, that could well explain your low immune system. Thyroid affects and impacts so many things in the body. You might want to think about joining the yahoo group,'Natural Thyroid Hormones' on Yahoo. They cover all the thyroid supplements, not just the NDT extract and they have very knowledgeable moderators. They are on hiatus until Tuesday but I would encourage you to consider joining the group if you aren't already a member. Having your doctor run some blood tests on your thyroid (if you haven't run them already) will be very helpful in seeing what is going on. The STTM website is an excellent resource for which tests to run. The STTM stands for 'Stop The Thyroid Madness'. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/ Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I take Lodoral (lugos tablet form) It is Iodine 5mg and Iodide 7.5mg for a total of 12.5 mg. I've been taking it for about 4 years. I can't tell it does anything. I take it because i have low immunity and see to catch everything. Doing allergy testing now ..so maybe that will help my immune system. On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly
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I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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That usually means the doctor is overlooking something that causing the nodules to grow. On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Thank you Raven. I will do that. guess i need the needle biopsy first to rule out cancer and go from there. Nervous since nodules have grown for first time in the 7 yrs the doc has been watching them. :/ On 8/16/2015 11:32 AM, RaVen wrote: I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 8/16/2015 9:09 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: I found a lump in my throat about 10 or so years ago. I went to my reg. M.D. and he redid the thyroid testing he had already done before and everything was normal however, he sent me on to a Endocrinologist who did a more extensive panel and found I had Hashimoto's. I allowed him to do the needle test because I really didn't understand the issues with that. All turned out OK but when I was put on Synthroid, all 3 nodules greatly reduced in size. that's the reason I asked about Hashi. Edith -Original Message- From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 1:54 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules No on the Hashimotos .. as far as I know. just the nodules.. Thyroid numbers are always low normal. Concerned about the needle biopsy if it is cancer..it could spread it. On 8/15/2015 7:46 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Will Lugols take the place of Thyroid meds such as Synthroid or Armour or the NDT ? On 8/16/2015 2:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Patricia.. not sure what you are asking? Iodine is a mineral that our body requires just like chromium, copper, zinc even vitamins. It is taken up, preferentially, first by the thyroid, then by the sex organs, then by the rest of the body. What dose are you on and when did you start taking the iodine? Lola - Original Message - From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I have to get educated on this so forgive my question: Does Lugols in liquid or tablet form provide what is needed ? On 8/16/2015 12:57 PM, Lola Harris wrote: Raven... I am also a real believer and fan of NDT since it was such a stunning success for me in resolving so many hypo issues that I had, issues that Synthroid seemed to just exacerbate. I might add that I have no iron or adrenal issues so stabilizing on NDT was very easy for me to do. Io However, there are some folks who don't do well on NDT (natural desiccated thyroid (brand names such as Armour and Naturethroid) and do well on Synthroid/synthetic T 4. I can't convert t 4 to t 3 and so, have to have the natural NDT product. My sister, on the other hand, has done fabulously on Synthroid since the eighties and had all kinds of problems with NDT when she tried to take it a few years back at my urging. But she does have hashis and I don't. The compounded product can be another option for hypo sufferers since the fillers/additives in the commercial brands can be problematic for some and this alternative gives them some control over that aspect. Here is an article that might be helpful to some in explaining why it is so difficult to be a 'purist' in the sense of subscribing to one form of thyroid medication to the exclusion of others. Those who struggle to find the right product and the correct dosage have my sympathies. It can be an arduous and frustrating journey for some. https://chriskresser.com/3-steps-to-choosing-the-right-thyroid-hormone/ An excerpt from the article... -- However, in some cases patients do feel better with synthetic hormones. One reason for this is that a small subset of people with Hashimoto’s produce antibodies not only to their thyroid tissue (TPO and TG), but also to their own thyroid hormones (T4 and T3). These patients do worse with bio-identical sources because they increased the source of the autoimmune attack. -- Lola Original Message - From: RaVen aslra...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I highly recommend anyone with Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism to take only NATURAL DISSICATED THYROID from Porcine - it's only made from a compounding pharmacy. Insurance will NOT cover it... it's near human form and creates both T3 and T4 that most synthetic thyroid drugs do NOT make. Then see Dr Rommel Geronimo (From San Diego, CA)who can offer long distant consultation via phone/emails/Skype --- he will help you pin point exactly what you need to do to change your diet, to add certain supplements that you need, and repair every organs - intestinal, endocrine, cognitive, nervous system and take a lot of tests to make sure there's no parasites, food allergies, celiac disease, and etc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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opps sorry .. accidently sent last msg. On 8/16/2015 2:19 PM, Patricia wrote: On 8/16/2015 9:09 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: I found a lump in my throat about 10 or so years ago. I went to my reg. M.D. and he redid the thyroid testing he had already done before and everything was normal however, he sent me on to a Endocrinologist who did a more extensive panel and found I had Hashimoto's. I allowed him to do the needle test because I really didn't understand the issues with that. All turned out OK but when I was put on Synthroid, all 3 nodules greatly reduced in size. that's the reason I asked about Hashi. Edith -Original Message- From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 1:54 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules No on the Hashimotos .. as far as I know. just the nodules.. Thyroid numbers are always low normal. Concerned about the needle biopsy if it is cancer..it could spread it. On 8/15/2015 7:46 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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No on the Hashimotos .. as far as I know. just the nodules.. Thyroid numbers are always low normal. Concerned about the needle biopsy if it is cancer..it could spread it. On 8/15/2015 7:46 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com mailto:pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Do you have Hashimoto's? Edith -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 11:20 pm Subject: Re: CSThyroid Nodules I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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That is something you have to decide for yourself. Let me ask you this question, If you are concerned it could be malignant, why would you want to punch a hole in the membrane that is containing it? I have had nodules for years and I saw an FSM practitioner for Goiter treatments and after a few the goiter is gone. I will have to wait for my next ultrasound to be sure about the nodules.PT From: Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:37 PM Subject: CSThyroid Nodules Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Hi Patricia, I highly recommend you talking with a Hashimoto/Hypothyroidism expert - Dr Rommel Geronimo. I believe he gives one free consultations. He helped me immensely with Hashimoto's. Google his name up and you should find his website from San Diego, CA. Good luck. RaVen On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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good info...tks On 8/14/2015 11:20 PM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com mailto:pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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I had biopsies on my nodules done twice, about two years apart. Since I stopped eating anything made of grains, my nodules are going away!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Thank you Raven. I will do that. On 8/14/2015 8:40 PM, RaVen wrote: Hi Patricia, I highly recommend you talking with a Hashimoto/Hypothyroidism expert - Dr Rommel Geronimo. I believe he gives one free consultations. He helped me immensely with Hashimoto's. Google his name up and you should find his website from San Diego, CA. Good luck. RaVen On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com mailto:pcassi...@tx.rr.com wrote: Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
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Well yes.. that is my concern. The fact that it has grown is the prob. I have had them for a while and no growth. Blood work is normal..and i do take Iodoral. I am concerned it is malignant. I know they say 95% are benign but there's always that 5%. I don't know. Scared to do it and scared not to do it. On 8/14/2015 9:06 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: That is something you have to decide for yourself. Let me ask you this question, If you are concerned it could be malignant, why would you want to punch a hole in the membrane that is containing it? I have had nodules for years and I saw an FSM practitioner for Goiter treatments and after a few the goiter is gone. I will have to wait for my next ultrasound to be sure about the nodules. PT *From:* Patricia pcassi...@tx.rr.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 9:37 PM *Subject:* CSThyroid Nodules Anybody know if it is a bad idea to get a needle biopsy on thyroid nodules ? Doc has been watching it for 5 yrs and it stayed same.. now 2 yrs later it has gotten a little bit bigger and he wants to do the needle biopsy. Scares me, but guess you have to know what you are dealing with. Maybe I better up my CS intake. :/
