RE: CSTick Bite, sms, Ode

2010-07-06 Thread Malcolm
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3283916

Hi Sash;

You may find the above article interesting.  I am particularly
interested by the comment that Borellia Burgdorferi is transmitted from
infected ticks to humans within 8 to 12 hours; more in line with my
knowledge of local acquaintances' experiences when infected.

I'm uncertain as to whether the tick regurgitates when squeezed, whether
the spirochete resides in the saliva and/or anaesthetic the tick uses in
penetrating its host or merely in the tick's stomach, and subsequently
the anaesthetic the tick uses upon DEtaching from its host; a
little-examined yet apparent sequel to the normal feeding cycle that
seems to involve an antihistamine type (non)reaction quite different
from what you get when the tick was forcibly removed and/or often when
it vectored a disease.

There's lots yet to be learned, for sure! Have you read Lab 257 by
Christopher Carroll??

Take care,
Malcolm  


On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:07 -0700, s...@emotap.com wrote:
 Ode,
 Your statement below is generally not true.  Even if one gets the tick off
 quickly, as you suggest, the contents of the tick's stomach may have been
 regurgitated into the bite and the blood and lymph will carry it to all
 parts of the body, quickly, and then start reproducing or hiding until it is
 safe to start reproducing.  This includes the brain and is known as
 neurolyme.  We have to remember that the general population, unlike you, do
 not have CS running through their body, nor do most even know what CS is. 
 
 The reason I say your statement is generally not true is that, many people
 do not know how to correctly remove a tick without squeezing it.  And if the
 tick should happen to be infected, then no matter how quickly you got the
 tick off of the body, the contents of the tick's stomach will have been
 regurgitated into the bite. Some people are very, very lucky and have immune
 systems that are strong and healthy, but read below, and you will see that
 not even that is a guarantee that a future attack from that specific bite
 will not ever surface.
 
 What will matter and make all the difference to a life is the means by which
 one eliminates or kills off the spirochetes and co-infections delivered into
 the system through the bite.  One may have an excellent immune system which
 will help eliminate it or not.  But why take the chance.  This is a life
 threatening disease which can lay dormant in the body for years for when the
 immune system is not up to par.  These spirochetes are extremely intelligent
 and know when to begin their attack.  They are pleomorphic organisms and
 also some have been designed by humans for biowarfare.  The immune system
 cannot recognize those designed for biowarfare and so doesn't know that it
 has been attacked and do not rev up to fight what they don't recognize.
 
 ABX is indicated for any tick bite, starting with Doxycycline, at around 400
 to 600mg/day, until the person knows for absolute certain that they have not
 been infected or for taking for a minimum of 4-6 weeks, period.  End of
 story.  A bulleseye rash is only one indication.  You don't necessarily have
 to have a bullseye rash to be infected.  Many Lyme victims have never had a
 bullseye rash and they have Lyme Disease.
 sash  
 
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
 
 If you get the tick off pretty quick, there is little chance of any
 problems. I get tick bit about every 2 weeks and find one looking for a spot
 every few days. Do the tick search daily if not twice a day. 
 
 I'd never be OFF ABX if I assumed the worst every time. 
 Ode
 
 
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RE: CSTick Bite, sms, Ode

2010-07-06 Thread sms
Thanks for the link Malcolm.  I'll definitely read it.  

Yes, the vectors are communicated through both saliva and stomach contents.
Whether through the anesthetic is very interesting and a new one on me.  It
sounds quite reasonable though.

The thing is that one cannot wait to take any effective remedial action due
to the varieties of co-infections which are often transmited some of which
include Erhlichia, Babesiosis, and Bartonella, and various mycoplasms.  That
can happen even without Borellia.

Yes, I read Lab 257 quite a few years back.  A true gut wrenching
eye-opener!!! Life was never quite the same as it helped eliminate the last
vestiges of denial I had wondering about.  The other one I read a couple
years back, was Poison Plum by Les Roberts; said to be fiction.  Not as
great or well known as Lab 257.
Sash  

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From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
Subject: RE: CSTick Bite, sms, Ode
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3283916
Hi Sash;
You may find the above article interesting.  I am particularly
interested by the comment that Borellia Burgdorferi is transmitted from
infected ticks to humans within 8 to 12 hours; more in line with my
knowledge of local acquaintances' experiences when infected.
 


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