Re: CSTravel Kit Emergency
Wayne said: Actually, I think anyone that flies has forgotten about survival altogether anyway. OK -- that cracked me up!!! Couldn't agree more Wayne! Thanks for saying what I was thinking!! MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
Tinctures made with 80 proof vodka don't need any preservative. I'm not sure about vinegar, but it doesn't seem to need any preservative by itself so I don't think that it should need any for the tincture, especially if there is alcohol in it as well. The point is to make the tincture very strong (with much more herb than most herbalists generally use) so that you don't have to take so much of the carrier (ie alcohol or vinegar) in order to get a good dose of the herb. I don't think you need to add CS. Dan From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 9:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency When doing these home tinctures, alcohol most of the times refer to vodka. Most alcohol content is listed in proof as in 80 proof. which means that 80 proof equals 40% alcohol by volume. 40 proof is 20% alcohol. Proof equals 1/2 alcohol . As a preservative different herbs may call for different percentages alcohol. I am not sure what percentage cayenne calls for, but I'm pretty sure only needs 10-20% by volume alcohol. Also as Tabasco and others only use vinegar (acetic acid) is more economical but not as hot as alcohol. By question is what would the combination of Colloidal Silver and vinegar or alcohol be? Maybe CS as a preservative would not need anything else (but it does not seem to work that particular way. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. winmail.dat
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
RE: CSTravel Kit EmergencyAdding CS to Cayenne will get CS to the destination faster (in theory) That's why I would like to hear from those that use cayenne and use CS. IMO, they should be added together, but personal testimony is important. Some claims that cayenne as a nasal spray is superior. I am not sure how CS would react to alcohol or vinegar, with cayenne it should be fine, or I see no reason why a combination would be bad. If you simply have a glass of CS and some cayenne powdered and mixed what you needed when you needed would work. However, IMO, a cayenne tincture is simply more powerful. If CS was added just before that would be IMO, an added value. However, if CS was added to the tincture beforehand then that would be simpler and quicker, being ready made. Many of the disorders cayenne are noted for are inflammation in nature. Cayenne may work to just blast through working through the stagnation caused by inflammation. CS should work as an anti-inflammatory, more of the root of the problem, that which causes the inflammation. Any on know of possible bad reaction of CS with alcohol or vinegar? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency Tinctures made with 80 proof vodka don't need any preservative. I'm not sure about vinegar, but it doesn't seem to need any preservative by itself so I don't think that it should need any for the tincture, especially if there is alcohol in it as well. The point is to make the tincture very strong (with much more herb than most herbalists generally use) so that you don't have to take so much of the carrier (ie alcohol or vinegar) in order to get a good dose of the herb. I don't think you need to add CS. Dan -- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Fri 9/1/2006 9:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency When doing these home tinctures, alcohol most of the times refer to vodka. Most alcohol content is listed in proof as in 80 proof. which means that 80 proof equals 40% alcohol by volume. 40 proof is 20% alcohol. Proof equals 1/2 alcohol . As a preservative different herbs may call for different percentages alcohol. I am not sure what percentage cayenne calls for, but I'm pretty sure only needs 10-20% by volume alcohol. Also as Tabasco and others only use vinegar (acetic acid) is more economical but not as hot as alcohol. By question is what would the combination of Colloidal Silver and vinegar or alcohol be? Maybe CS as a preservative would not need anything else (but it does not seem to work that particular way. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. attachment: winmail.dat
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
Wayne, I looked up how Richard Schulze makes his tinctures. His rule of thumb is that after the herb and the alcohol are blended together (in a blender) you let the solids, the herbs, settle. The alcohol should be showing above the level of the herbs, but only about half as much as the height of the herbs. That is, the alcohol above the level of the herbs should be 25% to 50% compared to the level of the settled herbs. This gives one strong tincture that will work... Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTravel Kit Emergency Morning Linda, At 08:54 AM 9/1/2006, you wrote: I wonder if our old survival list still works? Is there a book I can get with this information, plus the other 9? We are getting ready to travel full-time, and I am trying to assemble the best possible medical kit to take along. As you can imagine, I have a few ideas and suggestions. I find things in my pantry that amazes me, that I do not even know how they got there. One is an Emergency Surgery Kit. Not sure everyone would need one of these. It looks like something a doctor or surgeon would carry when traveling light to another country.I suppose today it would make the owner a terrorist or he could not get it on the plane. Actually, I think anyone that flies has forgotten about survival altogether anyway. If you missed the publication by Dr. David Williams containing what he carries when he goes to other countries, I have a few copies. ( Hard Copy, not electronic Copies ) Likely you may find this on his website. I'm on my way to the health store as I finish this for the cayenne to start with (having now been convinced that Tabasco Sauce is only a poor cousin). I am making 4 pints of Cayenne Tincture. Not sure how it is going to turn out yet. more ideas later... Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
I'm concerned that Dr Williams thinks that it's OK to eat a can of sardines in the passenger compartment while flying. I hope I don't have to fly with him... ;-)) Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTravel Kit Emergency Morning Linda, At 08:54 AM 9/1/2006, you wrote: I wonder if our old survival list still works? Is there a book I can get with this information, plus the other 9? We are getting ready to travel full-time, and I am trying to assemble the best possible medical kit to take along. As you can imagine, I have a few ideas and suggestions. I find things in my pantry that amazes me, that I do not even know how they got there. One is an Emergency Surgery Kit. Not sure everyone would need one of these. It looks like something a doctor or surgeon would carry when traveling light to another country.I suppose today it would make the owner a terrorist or he could not get it on the plane. Actually, I think anyone that flies has forgotten about survival altogether anyway. If you missed the publication by Dr. David Williams containing what he carries when he goes to other countries, I have a few copies. ( Hard Copy, not electronic Copies ) Likely you may find this on his website. I'm on my way to the health store as I finish this for the cayenne to start with (having now been convinced that Tabasco Sauce is only a poor cousin). I am making 4 pints of Cayenne Tincture. Not sure how it is going to turn out yet. more ideas later... Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency
When doing these home tinctures, alcohol most of the times refer to vodka. Most alcohol content is listed in proof as in 80 proof. which means that 80 proof equals 40% alcohol by volume. 40 proof is 20% alcohol. Proof equals 1/2 alcohol . As a preservative different herbs may call for different percentages alcohol. I am not sure what percentage cayenne calls for, but I'm pretty sure only needs 10-20% by volume alcohol. Also as Tabasco and others only use vinegar (acetic acid) is more economical but not as hot as alcohol. By question is what would the combination of Colloidal Silver and vinegar or alcohol be? Maybe CS as a preservative would not need anything else (but it does not seem to work that particular way. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTravel Kit Emergency Wayne, I looked up how Richard Schulze makes his tinctures. His rule of thumb is that after the herb and the alcohol are blended together (in a blender) you let the solids, the herbs, settle. The alcohol should be showing above the level of the herbs, but only about half as much as the height of the herbs. That is, the alcohol above the level of the herbs should be 25% to 50% compared to the level of the settled herbs. This gives one strong tincture that will work... Dan -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTravel Kit Emergency Morning Linda, At 08:54 AM 9/1/2006, you wrote: I wonder if our old survival list still works? Is there a book I can get with this information, plus the other 9? We are getting ready to travel full-time, and I am trying to assemble the best possible medical kit to take along. As you can imagine, I have a few ideas and suggestions. I find things in my pantry that amazes me, that I do not even know how they got there. One is an Emergency Surgery Kit. Not sure everyone would need one of these. It looks like something a doctor or surgeon would carry when traveling light to another country.I suppose today it would make the owner a terrorist or he could not get it on the plane. Actually, I think anyone that flies has forgotten about survival altogether anyway. If you missed the publication by Dr. David Williams containing what he carries when he goes to other countries, I have a few copies. ( Hard Copy, not electronic Copies ) Likely you may find this on his website. I'm on my way to the health store as I finish this for the cayenne to start with (having now been convinced that Tabasco Sauce is only a poor cousin). I am making 4 pints of Cayenne Tincture. Not sure how it is going to turn out yet. more ideas later... Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
