Re: CSre: lung infection questions
Thanks. Just goes to show how bad my memory is. sol Dennis Gulenchin wrote: This sounds like something that happened in California a few years ago. I remember the Dr's name was Julie Gorchynski because she is related to someone I work with. Check out this article, it does mention DMSO. Medical/toxic lady faq http://tafkac.org/medical/toxic_lady_faq.html Dennis. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'm glad you all pointed out that using O2 with DMSO is a definite NO. Here I was going to add DMSO to my CS in my nebulizer, and I am on O2 24/7.It's nice to be informed on things like this from the great bunch of people on the list. Pete
RE: CSre: lung infection questions
A similar actual incident occurred several years ago. No one died, but one nurse of severely injured. The substance emanated from a patient's body. At that time, nothing was knows about the cause of the effect. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSre: lung infection questions On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. True? I dunno. It is, after all, a TV show. Ode Marshall Dudley wrote: charles thomson wrote: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. is there info re:better results obtained with a stronger solution of cs and dmso...if so what were the strengths used *Higher ppm of CS might increase it's effectiveness somewhat, as long as the particle size is kept down. As far as mixing with dmso, I need to defer to Brooks Bradley on that, he was the one initially reported the enhancement of this protocol by adding dmso, and would be in a much better position to give you an accurate answer. Fact is, the CS works so well, I have never personally needed to add the dmso, plus I am having a hard time finding it in my area.* *Marshall* she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
This sounds like something that happened in California a few years ago. I remember the Dr's name was Julie Gorchynski because she is related to someone I work with. Check out this article, it does mention DMSO. Medical/toxic lady faq http://tafkac.org/medical/toxic_lady_faq.html Dennis. Jim Holmes wrote: A similar actual incident occurred several years ago. No one died, but one nurse of severely injured. The substance emanated from a patient's body. At that time, nothing was knows about the cause of the effect. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSre: lung infection questions On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. True? I dunno. It is, after all, a TV show. Ode she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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That sounds very much like the TV story...so probably only the one time. It does bring up a caution about using DMSO along with oxygenation therapies though. Ode At 02:55 PM 12/25/2005 -0700, you wrote: I believe that is true, it happened in southern california many years back. I actually remember news stories at the time, it was on TV news. One nurse died in that happening (the patient also died). If memory serves, the patient had been using extremely large amounts of DMSO for cancer pain, for some time. Took them a while to figure out what had happened to cause the patient's body to emit toxic gas. Maybe it has happened again? sol Ode Coyote wrote: On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7 - Release Date: 12/23/2005
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
I thought it also sort of pointed out that if you are doing alternatives and they aren't working, maybe it is time to get to a regular doctor if possible? Wasn't there a woman who died of Strep even while taking CS? sol Ode Coyote wrote: That sounds very much like the TV story...so probably only the one time. It does bring up a caution about using DMSO along with oxygenation therapies though. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I believe that is true, it happened in southern california many years back. I actually remember news stories at the time, it was on TV news. One nurse died in that happening (the patient also died). If memory serves, the patient had been using extremely large amounts of DMSO for cancer pain, for some time. Took them a while to figure out what had happened to cause the patient's body to emit toxic gas. Maybe it has happened again? sol Ode Coyote wrote: On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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## A productive cough is likely a good thing if not in painfully long spells. My ex once went into coughing spells so bad she'd turn blue and nearly pass out. No over the counters did anything, not even the Opiates...BUT.. one single toke of Pot and she was fine. It didn't even take another one later Ode. charles thomson wrote: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. is there info re:better results obtained with a stronger solution of cs and dmso...if so what were the strengths used she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
On Life in the ER a few nights ago, there was this lady that came in exuding a potent smell that nearly killed everyone in the ER. Turned out to be a third or forth metabolite byproduct of DMSO. According to that story, the normal metabolite of DMSO is harmless DMSO2, but when coupled with oxygen therapy it makes DMSO3 or DMSO4, a deadly nerve agent. She died. Everyone else got really sick for days. True? I dunno. It is, after all, a TV show. Ode Marshall Dudley wrote: charles thomson wrote: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. is there info re:better results obtained with a stronger solution of cs and dmso...if so what were the strengths used *Higher ppm of CS might increase it's effectiveness somewhat, as long as the particle size is kept down. As far as mixing with dmso, I need to defer to Brooks Bradley on that, he was the one initially reported the enhancement of this protocol by adding dmso, and would be in a much better position to give you an accurate answer. Fact is, the CS works so well, I have never personally needed to add the dmso, plus I am having a hard time finding it in my area.* *Marshall* she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html.dir=. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre: lung infection questions
charles thomson wrote: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. is there info re:better results obtained with a stronger solution of cs and dmso...if so what were the strengths used Higher ppm of CS might increase it's effectiveness somewhat, as long as the particle size is kept down. As far as mixing with dmso, I need to defer to Brooks Bradley on that, he was the one initially reported the enhancement of this protocol by adding dmso, and would be in a much better position to give you an accurate answer. Fact is, the CS works so well, I have never personally needed to add the dmso, plus I am having a hard time finding it in my area. Marshall she is currently using her neb twice a day...any suggestions thank you again for past interest and helpchuckl --- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
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In a message dated 12/23/05 10:04:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, twoc...@yahoo.com writes: to odecoyote/marshall dudley.you both gave me some good advice some time ago re: my wifes' chronic lung infection..she stopped using most of her presribed meds(it looked to me like they were killing her) and has been using a nebulizer with a cs solution of 5-8% with 10% dmso addedshe is much improved, both in health and attitude...currently she is having some trouble with a phlegm buildup and a sporatic cough..now the questions. The phlegm buildup will definitely cause a sporatic cough and shortness of breath which I experience every day. I found out by taking an OTC drug called, Humibid every 3 hrs the cough will dissipate after one humongous cough which also will restore breathing. I am still working despite orders from my primary DR and my pulmonologist, as well as my daughters, wife and Mother. I am still and will be on O2 24/7 unless some miracle comes my way either from above or on this web site. My doctor last year wanted me to work only 4hrs//day(actually retire) but I coaxed him to 6hrs, now i am doing 8hrs, but not without problems. My wife carries my iced water bottle, lunch, and extra Helios tank to my van every nite I work. When leaving I am dead tired and get help carrying my supplies back to the van as my wife awaits my return. Good Luck, I hope it works for you! Pete
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Use Fenugreek Thyme or just plain Fenugreek to loosen and bring up the mucus. Cupping the hands and patting the back helps to bring the mucus up quickly. Patting the feet in the center where the lungs are located , also helps. Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
