Re: second effort
If you will go to Radio Shack and ask the clerk to find you two 12v sub-miniatureincandescentlamps, plus two E5 type lamp holders.you will be in business. The two 12v bulbs should be assembled; connected in series to each other in either leg of your circuit coming from your 24---to---36vdc power supply. This setup will work equally well as the single 24v, 40 MA bulb. Besides, Radio Shack does not carry (in stock) the 24v bulb recommended in Bob Beck's assembly instructions. We have constructed dozens of these devices using this work-aroundquite successfully. Good Luck. Brooks At 08:18 PM 5/14/98 EDT, you wrote: first effort - 4x 9v batteries in tap-water We sprayed that particular batch on the garden today. second effort - underway now; 4x 9v batteries in steam-distilled water, heated in a coffee-maker pot on the stove. Do I keep the fire to the water until the batch is done, or just preheat the water? About this 40mA bulb... I went to Radio Shack this eve, and the helpful clerk said all his bulbs were too big - 1v or more. What sort of bulb should I use in my machine that is 40mA? Maybe if I knew what sort of bulbs were 40mA, I'd know where to look to buy one. My silver wires both bubbled up nicely when I put them in the water. Now, I'm just waiting to watch the streamers start forming... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: second effort
I know what you mean Michael. I made my first batch day before yesterday, and I was like a kid with a new toy. Neat! Can hardly wait to make my next batch (am out of bottles!). I have gotten kinda serious with my instrumentation, so you can expect a lot of boring details. Whatta ya expect from a Jar-Head?? Dean -Original Message- From: Michael C McNeill [mailto:firew...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 8:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: second effort No, I *don't live online...I just check mail *frequently* when I post questions! grin On Thu, 14 May 1998 20:38:08 -5 M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net writes: Radio Shack sells a 28 volt, 40 mA lamp, in packages of two for a couple bucks or less. It's a type 1819 bulb with a bayonet base, IOW, the geek dinna know what I was asking for? Sheesh. Ok, new bulb tomorrow morn! Oh ... is the lightbulb a vital part of the circuit? Or can I make CS without it? If by bubbled up you mean the rather large bubbles that form just from the hot water (bigger than a millimeter in diameter), then you Ok, I was still waiting, then. grin Now, tho, those really little bubbles have showed up! Ok, the bubbles are in...but no streamers to be seen. The pos. electrode is turning dark (black), a penlight from the side leaves a fog trail (visible beam thru the water), and the water seems to glow a yellow-gold color from the flashlight. Is this a proper reaction? (Wow, another hyper-excited newbie cooks up a batch of cs...) I'm a verra see-it type of learner. I like to watch someone do it first then do it on my own, that's why I keep asking tons of (probably silly) questions... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: second effort
The type of bulb you are looking for is one that will draw 40 milliamperes of current at 28 Volts (in other words, if you hooked this bulb up to 3 9-volt batteries it would draw 40 milliamperes of current). If you hook it up to 4 9-volt batteries you are putting it on 36 volts. This will draw more current by the same ratio as the voltages, that is 36/27 times 40 = 53+ milliamperes. This bulb will glow very brightly, but probably will not burn out. So...it is ok to use. The only real purpose of the bulb is to limit the current if your electrodes short out (as they probably will), and would otherwise draw a lot of current and drag your batteries down. This is all very simple stuff (for an Aggie Electrical Engineer) - I don't know why you find it confusing - they teach it in Electrical Engineering 101! :) God Bless Dean -Original Message- From: Michael C McNeill [mailto:firew...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 7:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:second effort first effort - 4x 9v batteries in tap-water We sprayed that particular batch on the garden today. second effort - underway now; 4x 9v batteries in steam-distilled water, heated in a coffee-maker pot on the stove. Do I keep the fire to the water until the batch is done, or just preheat the water? About this 40mA bulb... I went to Radio Shack this eve, and the helpful clerk said all his bulbs were too big - 1v or more. What sort of bulb should I use in my machine that is 40mA? Maybe if I knew what sort of bulbs were 40mA, I'd know where to look to buy one. My silver wires both bubbled up nicely when I put them in the water. Now, I'm just waiting to watch the streamers start forming... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: second effort
No, I *don't live online...I just check mail *frequently* when I post questions! grin On Thu, 14 May 1998 20:38:08 -5 M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net writes: Radio Shack sells a 28 volt, 40 mA lamp, in packages of two for a couple bucks or less. It's a type 1819 bulb with a bayonet base, IOW, the geek dinna know what I was asking for? Sheesh. Ok, new bulb tomorrow morn! Oh ... is the lightbulb a vital part of the circuit? Or can I make CS without it? If by bubbled up you mean the rather large bubbles that form just from the hot water (bigger than a millimeter in diameter), then you Ok, I was still waiting, then. grin Now, tho, those really little bubbles have showed up! Ok, the bubbles are in...but no streamers to be seen. The pos. electrode is turning dark (black), a penlight from the side leaves a fog trail (visible beam thru the water), and the water seems to glow a yellow-gold color from the flashlight. Is this a proper reaction? (Wow, another hyper-excited newbie cooks up a batch of cs...) I'm a verra see-it type of learner. I like to watch someone do it first then do it on my own, that's why I keep asking tons of (probably silly) questions... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: second effort
Michael wrote: About this 40mA bulb... I went to Radio Shack this eve, and the helpful clerk said all his bulbs were too big - 1v or more. What sort of bulb should I use in my machine that is 40mA? Maybe if I knew what sort of bulbs were 40mA, I'd know where to look to buy one. Radio Shack sells a 28 volt, 40 mA lamp, in packages of two for a couple bucks or less. It's a type 1819 bulb with a bayonet base, Radio Shack part number 272-1119. This part number comes from a 1994 catalog, but I think it's still good. Small light bulbs like this are rated for the voltage needed to fully light them (28 Volts) and how much current they'll draw from that voltage source (40 mA). My silver wires both bubbled up nicely when I put them in the water. Now, I'm just waiting to watch the streamers start forming... If by bubbled up you mean the rather large bubbles that form just from the hot water (bigger than a millimeter in diameter), then you are still waiting for it to start. The *negative* electrode will start to generate **really tiny** bubbles of hydrogen at about the same time you see the first hints of streamers from the positive (and sometimes the negative) electrode. Good luck! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
