Re: CISCO

1998-07-25 Thread bjs1779
vibrnthealth wrote:
 
 Daniel Holly wrote:
 
  I too agree.
  Accelerate the workings of KarmaWow 
  , I hope I can say Wow again , just because an idea doesn't work
 as fast as one would want don't destroy intention . Positive advice
 might be given to Cisco. Intention is like prayer it has positive
 results. Dave T.

Tough to get good fruit out of a bad tree. 
bjs


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread Reid Smith
Lists and Reid -
The email address I have for Cisco is ci...@iftech.net
So who is gonna be the one to blow the lid off this can of worms?
Fidget

   I tryed the e-mail addresses and they've all bounced. I've still
got his postal address and will drop him a line that way.



Take Care 

Reid



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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread Fidget
 Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
 My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
 me to believe that Cisco is or would be that kind of person.  Let me
 tell you why...
 First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
 found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
 dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
 with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
 different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
 send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
 the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
 any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
 Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
 difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
 post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).
 
 One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
 Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
 have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
 off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
 Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
 maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
 My .02
 
 Fidget;
 
   Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny
 said BUT I find it even harder not to believe Johnny would say something
 like that with out good cause.
 
I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net.
 He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
 anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
 if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.
 
So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
 comments on what is going on?
 
 Take Care
 
 Reid



Lists and Reid -

The email address I have for Cisco is ci...@iftech.net

So who is gonna be the one to blow the lid off this can of worms?

Fidget


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread Daniel Holly
Yes.
He ca be reached at:
ci...@budweiser.com


Dan


==


-Original Message-
From: Reid Smith rsm...@intrnet.net


   So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
comments on what is going on? 



Take Care 

Reid




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Re: CISCO

1998-07-24 Thread brains
Reid Smith wrote:

  Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
  Subject: The Real Cisco or  Fredrick Botten  of Guam
  The all concerned.
  The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago.
 It
  concerns Rick  Cisco  and his way of life. If you are so incline
 to
  donate anything for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I
 have
  talked with Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit
 Cisco.
  After the phone call it was evident I am a fool. The following is
 to let
  you know what has transpired in the last few months between Cisco
 and I.
  There is only one reason I would announce being so foolish to the
 world.
  This is keep it from happening to anyone else.
  *

 Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
 My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult
 for
 me to believe that Cisco is or would be that kind of person.  Let
 me
 tell you why...
 First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
 found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice
 versa,
 dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
 with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
 different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
 send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done
 around
 the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has
 had
 any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
 Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made
 it
 difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in
 this
 post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).

 One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
 Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of
 people
 have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped

 off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
 Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might
 be,
 maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
 My .02

 Fidget;

   Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny

 said BUT I find it even harder not to believe Johnny would say
 something
 like that with out good cause.

I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net.

 He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
 anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
 if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.

So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
 comments on what is going on?

 Take Care

 Reid

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  Reid I have been emailing him for a month or more via his daughter and
had two replies saying all is well ...but nothing personally
...

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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread Reid Smith
 Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
 Subject: The Real Cisco or  Fredrick Botten  of Guam
 The all concerned.
 The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It
 concerns Rick  Cisco  and his way of life. If you are so incline to 
 donate anything for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have 
 talked with Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. 
 After the phone call it was evident I am a fool. The following is to let 
 you know what has transpired in the last few months between Cisco and I. 
 There is only one reason I would announce being so foolish to the world. 
 This is keep it from happening to anyone else.
 *

Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
me to believe that Cisco is or would be that kind of person.  Let me
tell you why...
First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.
Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).

One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.
Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
maybe we should consider if he is still alive?
My .02

Fidget;

  Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny
said BUT I find it even harder not to believe Johnny would say something
like that with out good cause. 

   I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net. 
He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt
anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone
if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause.

   So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his
comments on what is going on? 



Take Care 

Reid



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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread Fidget
brains wrote:
 
 Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists
 
 Subject: The Real Cisco or  Fredrick Botten  of Guam
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:40:06 +
From: Johnny Burton thau...@bellsouth.net
  To: Rifers rif...@majordomo.net
 
 The all concerned.
 The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It
 concerns Rick
  Cisco  and his way of life. If you are so incline to donate anything
 for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have talked with
 Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. After the
 phone call it was evident I am a
 fool. The following is to let you know what has transpired in the last
 few months between Cisco and I. There is only one reason I would
 announce being so foolish to the world. This is keep it from happening
 to anyone else.
 
 *


Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --

My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
me to believe that Cisco is or would be that kind of person.  Let me
tell you why...

First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and
found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa,
dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend
with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on
different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't.  I can
send them if anyone is interested.  However, all these were done around
the end of May timeframe.  Nothing after that.  If anyone else has had
any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note.

Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it
difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this
post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz).

One more thing everyone may want to consider...   Guam, Papua, New
Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people
have lost their lives.  I believe the entire country was almost wiped
off the map.  We're talking massive destruction here.

Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be,
maybe we should consider if he is still alive?

My .02

Fidget


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread bjs1779
Fidget wrote:
 

  *
 
 Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers --
 
 My first impression of this post was shock.  It was rather difficult for
 me to believe that Cisco is or would be that kind of person.  Let me
 tell you why...

The man has come to a conclusion and admitted to the world he is
a fool. The only other alternative to this is that he is even a
bigger fool if he is wrong. This would be easy to spin so we may
not know for awhile. 
bjs


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Re: CISCO

1998-07-23 Thread M. G. Devour
I don't know anything about Cisco except what we've seen on the list
and a few private e-mails. What does this message represent in terms
of truth? It is no more than characters on a screen to most of us 
and we have no way to know.

In Cisco's case, I see an example of how easy it would be to create a
charismatic online persona and lead people to whatever beliefs you 
want them to have. I also see how easy it would be to destroy the 
reputation of an innocent person. It can also be a case of dedicated 
but not-so-innocent people running afoul of their own weaknesses.

Which is it? I don't pretend to know.

Whether Cisco has done what he claims to have, or what he's accused 
of, that work is (or would be) valuable. Someone should be doing it. 

There will probably be answering messages and people will be tempted
to argue. I don't want a brouhaha over this. By all means let's talk
it over and learn from it, but let's stay on target. 

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
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RE: CISCO

1998-05-06 Thread Dean Woodward
To Cisco: Greetings Mac!

Drop a note to another ex-Gyrene (2d Mar Div, WWII - Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian,
Okinawa).

Semper Fi:

Dean Woodward

-Original Message-
From:   brains [mailto:bra...@senet.com.au]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 05, 1998 7:05 AM
To: silverlist
Subject:CISCO

Ok g'day list ...
Cisco is an exmarine who lives on Guam and had a melanoma which
metastasized to his liver . in most cases a death sentence ...well
he was told he had 6 months to live 2 years ago so he got on to a Rife
unit and used it also began using CS and having overcome his problem and
knowing that there is a lot of people hurting out there he is helping
all those he can with  the Bare/rife unit, colloidal silver and anything
he can use.. they had a Metussis (whooping cough) outbreak on Guam
and that is why Cisco needed to make gallons of CS .. and it saved
lives ..they lost a few but saved alot  better odds than the medicos
(I am biased)he also has been to some of the local islands with his CS
and there is a Rife unit on an island that Cisco arranged for them as
the third world people  don't have access to the facilities that you
and I have ... there is a lot more to Cisco but to tell all would
cause problems for him and some others he helps elsewhere... so he has a
big heart and uses it for good .
  hope this helps some 


--
Brian in OZ

  VK5KBW

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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-06 Thread Susan M. Yensen

Cisco is my friend of a year or so now. He's a great guy to talk with and
good to help out with the questions I have re Rife.  Makes massive amounts
of CS for large things like wells and stuff.  No medical care there,.
Noone could afford it if there were.  Hi Cisco if you see this1

Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer
Susan



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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-05 Thread brains
M. G. Devour wrote:
 
 Can you provide any biographical info on this Cisco person? It seems
 they have an interesting place in the world and are using CS to good
 advantage.
 
 The postings prove you can do just about anything sensible and still
 make decent CS.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike
 
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G'day Mike  . what would you like to know  .. I speak with
Ciksco almost every night  ..


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Re: Cisco?

1998-05-05 Thread M. G. Devour
On  5 May 98 at 19:19, Brian wrote:

 G'day Mike  . what would you like to know  .. I speak with
 Cisco almost every night  ..

A  couple of messages from/about him were forwarded to the list. He
sounded interesting. I'd never heard of him before though it seemed
he was well known. Thought it might be good to know his background.

A couple of folks have responded off-list, and I now have an idea of 
where he's at and what kind of efforts he's a part of. Sounds like a 
good gent to know.

If you'd like to give a non-intrusive sketch of the man and his 
situation for the benefit of others on the list who don't know him, 
that would be really nice. He's really demonstrating the value of CS 
in a survivalist or third world type scenario.

Thanks,

Mike D.

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